Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Nelson 
- Original Message - 
> Hi Tim,
> Unfortunately i can't reproduce the scenario because it was a long
> time ago. But it would be nice to hear from you, what things can be
> verified within fax and Asterisk? Any TIP on wireshark monitoring?

Within Asterisk, the debug logs can be helpful for routing/connectivity 
diagnostics. With Hylafax, all of your details will be found in the session 
logs in /var/spool/hylafax/log. Here you can see each session's interaction 
with the remote fax device. It is an art deciphering the various protocols, but 
the folks on the Hylafax lists are incredibly helpful until you've learned the 
magic of understanding the logs directly. :)

--Tim

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-31 Thread Danny Dias 
Hi Tim,

Unfortunately i can't reproduce the scenario because it was a long time
ago. But it would be nice to hear from you, what things can be verified
within fax and Asterisk? Any TIP on wireshark monitoring?
El 31/05/2012 03:08, "Tim Nelson"  escribió:

> - Original Message -
> > I've used Asterisk 1.4.22 with hylafax and iaxmodem and it wasn't
> > reliable at all; sometimes the fax reach the destination, sometimes
> > not, and even worse, asterisk got froozen...(here using analog lines
> > over Sangoma B600 and Digium TDM400P, same behavior with both.
> > Other history with same asterisk version but E1 lines, it was
> > PERFECT. That's why i ask for analog lines, since not all customers
> > has E1.
> > Any recommendation/restriction when using hylafax + Asterisk +
> > iaxmodem ?
> > BR
>
> If Asterisk was freezing up, that would seem to indicate a problem with
> Asterisk, not the Hylafax/IAXmodem components. Of course, details would be
> needed to determine why that was the case.
>
> Regardless, without lockups of Asterisk, reliability of fax is very
> dependent on timing and audio quality. Again, details would be needed to
> further investigate why you had high failure metrics(specifically your fax
> session logs from /var/spool/hylafax/log).
>
> In general, Hylafax+[1] and IAXmodem is the most rock solid stable fax
> solution available, as long as you can get past the initial learning curve.
> There is a reason why IAXmodem has not had a release in forever as the
> 1.2.0 release is rock solid stable. Hylafax+ continues to be developed with
> regular releases, the feature set and functionality are second to none with
> hooks for almost any imaginable configuration, and the support via the
> mailing lists or available contractors can't be beat.
>
> 
>
> If you have specifics about your problems with Hylafax and IAXmodem, I'd
> love to hear about them to help diagnose, if it is postmortem.
>
> --Tim
>
> [1] There *IS* a difference between "Hylafax" (hylafax.org) and
> "Hylafax+" (hylafax.sourceforge.net). Please see here:
> http://hylafax.sourceforge.net/about.php
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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-30 Thread Tim Nelson 
- Original Message - 
> I've used Asterisk 1.4.22 with hylafax and iaxmodem and it wasn't
> reliable at all; sometimes the fax reach the destination, sometimes
> not, and even worse, asterisk got froozen...(here using analog lines
> over Sangoma B600 and Digium TDM400P, same behavior with both.
> Other history with same asterisk version but E1 lines, it was
> PERFECT. That's why i ask for analog lines, since not all customers
> has E1.
> Any recommendation/restriction when using hylafax + Asterisk +
> iaxmodem ?
> BR

If Asterisk was freezing up, that would seem to indicate a problem with 
Asterisk, not the Hylafax/IAXmodem components. Of course, details would be 
needed to determine why that was the case.

Regardless, without lockups of Asterisk, reliability of fax is very dependent 
on timing and audio quality. Again, details would be needed to further 
investigate why you had high failure metrics(specifically your fax session logs 
from /var/spool/hylafax/log).

In general, Hylafax+[1] and IAXmodem is the most rock solid stable fax solution 
available, as long as you can get past the initial learning curve. There is a 
reason why IAXmodem has not had a release in forever as the 1.2.0 release is 
rock solid stable. Hylafax+ continues to be developed with regular releases, 
the feature set and functionality are second to none with hooks for almost any 
imaginable configuration, and the support via the mailing lists or available 
contractors can't be beat.



If you have specifics about your problems with Hylafax and IAXmodem, I'd love 
to hear about them to help diagnose, if it is postmortem.

--Tim

[1] There *IS* a difference between "Hylafax" (hylafax.org) and "Hylafax+" 
(hylafax.sourceforge.net). Please see here: 
http://hylafax.sourceforge.net/about.php

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-30 Thread Duncan Turnbull 
I had Hylafax sending 1000s of faxes a day twice a week connected to analogue 
lines using asterisk and iaxmodem for about 4 years. People don't use fax much 
anymore though

No problems whatsoever 

Cheers Duncan

On 31/05/2012, at 6:49 AM, Danny Dias wrote:

> Just to clarify, i were using fax machines connected to fxs ports
> 
> El 30/05/2012 20:31, "Danny Dias"  escribió:
> I've used Asterisk 1.4.22 with hylafax and iaxmodem and it wasn't reliable at 
> all; sometimes the fax reach the destination, sometimes not, and even worse, 
> asterisk got froozen...(here using analog lines over Sangoma B600 and Digium 
> TDM400P, same behavior with both.
> 
> Other history with same asterisk version but E1 lines, it was PERFECT. That's 
> why i ask for analog lines, since not all customers has E1.
> 
> Any recommendation/restriction when using hylafax + Asterisk + iaxmodem ?
> 
> BR
> 
> El 29/05/2012 22:29, "Carlos Alvarez"  escribió:
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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-30 Thread Danny Dias 
Just to clarify, i were using fax machines connected to fxs ports
El 30/05/2012 20:31, "Danny Dias"  escribió:

> I've used Asterisk 1.4.22 with hylafax and iaxmodem and it wasn't reliable
> at all; sometimes the fax reach the destination, sometimes not, and even
> worse, asterisk got froozen...(here using analog lines over Sangoma B600
> and Digium TDM400P, same behavior with both.
>
> Other history with same asterisk version but E1 lines, it was PERFECT.
> That's why i ask for analog lines, since not all customers has E1.
>
> Any recommendation/restriction when using hylafax + Asterisk + iaxmodem ?
>
> BR
> El 29/05/2012 22:29, "Carlos Alvarez"  escribió:
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-30 Thread Danny Dias 
I've used Asterisk 1.4.22 with hylafax and iaxmodem and it wasn't reliable
at all; sometimes the fax reach the destination, sometimes not, and even
worse, asterisk got froozen...(here using analog lines over Sangoma B600
and Digium TDM400P, same behavior with both.

Other history with same asterisk version but E1 lines, it was PERFECT.
That's why i ask for analog lines, since not all customers has E1.

Any recommendation/restriction when using hylafax + Asterisk + iaxmodem ?

BR
El 29/05/2012 22:29, "Carlos Alvarez"  escribió:
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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-29 Thread Randall 

On 05/30/2012 12:02 AM, Danny Dias wrote:

Hi all,

Does Hylafax and IAXmodem works with analog lines? or only with E1?

I've been checking some commercial solutions (in case Asterisk is not 
on site, and the customer wants a Fax Server as standalone), i saw 
FaxBack and Linkcom e-fax


But again, if Hylafax and iaxmodem works also with analog lines, that 
would be better to use. Could you please confirm? any place to check 
How-To on Hylafax and Iaxmodem?


not sure what your requirements are, but i can +1 the reliability of 
hylafax, have been using it for years problem free although only +- 10 
faxes a day, and its running on an old leftover pc with a cheap modem on 
a analog line.


i use it in combination with avantfax as a web front end and email2fax, 
its a cheap and Free solution, easy to use, low maintenance etc


never used iaxmodem though



Many thanks!!!

2012/5/29 Carlos Alvarez >



On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Warren Selby
mailto:wcse...@selbytech.com>> wrote:

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Danny Dias
mailto:ing.diasda...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,

For those customers with only analog lines, who ask for
fax2email and email2fax, whats the most reliable solution
available and tested with Asterisk?

Thanks



I've been real happy with using HylaFax+ and Iaxmodem
implementations.



We have a few Hylafax servers in our network.  Both it and
IAXmodem are a real bear to learn at first (well, so is Asterisk)
but when you get them working, they are rock solid.  I hadn't even
thought about it, but it's been at least a year since I logged
into any of our Hylafax servers and did anything to them.  They
just work.

I would estimate I put in a solid 30 hours into learning and
configuring the first server, and then some more time learning
additional capabilities and best practices.  But again, since
doing that, it's been totally hands-off.

I will add though that we also use Fax for Asterisk simply to
receive and turn faxes into PDF for some customers, and that is
perfectly stable also.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-29 Thread Duncan Turnbull 

On 30/05/2012, at 10:02 AM, Danny Dias wrote:

> Hi all, 
> 
> Does Hylafax and IAXmodem works with analog lines? or only with E1?
> 
Hylafax can use any fax modems: available E1 or analogue, ISDN as long as it 
can talk to it to send the commands

If you add asterisk and iaxmodem then hylafax can run through anything asterisk 
is connected to - although it will suffer on SIP and IAX lines that have jitter 
or bandwidth limitations

You only need iaxmodem to talk to asterisk, otherwise hylafax (or hylafax+) has 
a whole list of supported hardware
http://www.hylafax.org/content/Hardware_Compatibility_List

> I've been checking some commercial solutions (in case Asterisk is not on 
> site, and the customer wants a Fax Server as standalone), i saw FaxBack and 
> Linkcom e-fax
> 
> But again, if Hylafax and iaxmodem works also with analog lines, that would 
> be better to use. Could you please confirm? any place to check How-To on 
> Hylafax and Iaxmodem?
> 
> Many thanks!!!
> 
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-29 Thread Danny Dias 
Hi all,

Does Hylafax and IAXmodem works with analog lines? or only with E1?

I've been checking some commercial solutions (in case Asterisk is not on
site, and the customer wants a Fax Server as standalone), i saw FaxBack and
Linkcom e-fax

But again, if Hylafax and iaxmodem works also with analog lines, that would
be better to use. Could you please confirm? any place to check How-To on
Hylafax and Iaxmodem?

Many thanks!!!

2012/5/29 Carlos Alvarez 

>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Warren Selby wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Danny Dias wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For those customers with only analog lines, who ask for fax2email and
>>> email2fax, whats the most reliable solution available and tested with
>>> Asterisk?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>> I've been real happy with using HylaFax+ and Iaxmodem implementations.
>>
>
>
> We have a few Hylafax servers in our network.  Both it and IAXmodem are a
> real bear to learn at first (well, so is Asterisk) but when you get them
> working, they are rock solid.  I hadn't even thought about it, but it's
> been at least a year since I logged into any of our Hylafax servers and did
> anything to them.  They just work.
>
> I would estimate I put in a solid 30 hours into learning and configuring
> the first server, and then some more time learning additional capabilities
> and best practices.  But again, since doing that, it's been totally
> hands-off.
>
> I will add though that we also use Fax for Asterisk simply to receive and
> turn faxes into PDF for some customers, and that is perfectly stable also.
>
>
> --
> Carlos Alvarez
> TelEvolve
> 602-889-3003
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-29 Thread Carlos Alvarez 
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Warren Selby  wrote:

> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Danny Dias wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For those customers with only analog lines, who ask for fax2email and
>> email2fax, whats the most reliable solution available and tested with
>> Asterisk?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
> I've been real happy with using HylaFax+ and Iaxmodem implementations.
>


We have a few Hylafax servers in our network.  Both it and IAXmodem are a
real bear to learn at first (well, so is Asterisk) but when you get them
working, they are rock solid.  I hadn't even thought about it, but it's
been at least a year since I logged into any of our Hylafax servers and did
anything to them.  They just work.

I would estimate I put in a solid 30 hours into learning and configuring
the first server, and then some more time learning additional capabilities
and best practices.  But again, since doing that, it's been totally
hands-off.

I will add though that we also use Fax for Asterisk simply to receive and
turn faxes into PDF for some customers, and that is perfectly stable also.


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TelEvolve
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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-29 Thread Tim Nelson 
- Original Message - 
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Danny Dias < ing.diasda...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> > Hello,
> 
> > For those customers with only analog lines, who ask for fax2email
> > and
> > email2fax, whats the most reliable solution available and tested
> > with Asterisk?
> 
> > Thanks
> 
> I've been real happy with using HylaFax+ and Iaxmodem
> implementations.

+1 for this recommendation. Integrated approaches such as app_fax/res_fax may 
be 'easier', but you'll never the amount of customization, tunability, and 
control available with IAXmodem and Hylafax+.

--Tim

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-29 Thread Warren Selby 
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Bakko  wrote:

>  Any hint about email2fax?
>
> Thank you
>
>
This can be handled natively by the HylaFax+ server.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-29 Thread Bakko 

Any hint about email2fax?

Thank you

El 29/05/2012 17:03, Warren Selby escribió:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Danny Dias > wrote:


Hello,

For those customers with only analog lines, who ask for fax2email
and email2fax, whats the most reliable solution available and
tested with Asterisk?

Thanks



I've been real happy with using HylaFax+ and Iaxmodem implementations.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-29 Thread Warren Selby 
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Danny Dias  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> For those customers with only analog lines, who ask for fax2email and
> email2fax, whats the most reliable solution available and tested with
> Asterisk?
>
> Thanks
>
>
I've been real happy with using HylaFax+ and Iaxmodem implementations.

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[asterisk-users] Fax Server for Asterisk

2012-05-29 Thread Danny Dias 
Hello,

For those customers with only analog lines, who ask for fax2email and
email2fax, whats the most reliable solution available and tested with
Asterisk?

Thanks
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