Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
try to look for N82 nokia mobile devices.. you get the benefits of a Mobile device with it's phone book and mobility features (games when you are bored :P) .. and other features.. and the native SIP client works fluently with no problems at all supporting almost commercial codecs like (G729).. and it works with WIFI.. i use it at home. Tarek Sawah Information Technology Adviser Integrated Digital Systems CCNP, MCSE, RHCE, TELECOM USA: +1 386 492 9993 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:14:24 +0100 From: gordon+aster...@drogon.net To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ? On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 26/08/11 19:02, linux guy wrote: I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk system. We've been using the Siemens Gigaset 685IP range for over three years and I'm (still) very pleased with them: +1 The base station is separate from the handsets - which is typically different from most DECT setups - the plus point is that you can position the base in a good location - ie. high on a wall, rather than anywhere else. Another plus is that the base has a single built-in ATA, so it can connect to the home PSTN line. The base also has an Ethernet socket to connect to the LAN and it can have up to 6 SIP accounts - each handset (up to 6) can be configured to ring on a particular SIP account or many SIP accounts and/or the PSTN line. Each handset has a default SIP account (or PSTN) to make outgoing calls on, but you can select any other SIP account or the PSTN by appending a code to the number you dial. They are very flexible - and being DECT, have superb range. I've installed many of these for my customers - typically the home office types - where they only want one phone on their desk - so the same handset can answer their home phone or their office SIP account, while providing wireless handsets throughout the rest of the house. A limitation is that one base can only handle 2 simultaneous SIP calls (plus a call via the PSTN), so if 2 phones are in-use, then the system can't take a 3rd call, however that's rarely a limitation in a domestic environment. Gordon -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 01:11:00PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: http://www.voipsupply.com/siemens-gigaset-a580-ip I bought a Siemens Gigaset C475IP at the beginning of this year. Strange, I haven't been able to buy this phone for a about 2 years. It was replaced with the A580. RFC2833 dialling is broken, because it has broken handling of RTP [snip] I won't be buying another Gigaset, and wouldn't recommend them either. And now I know why. The A580 supports INFO, can't remember is the C475IP did. IMHO the Gigasets are good enough for home use (crappy interface, no G726 support, reasonable voice quality), but an ATA has a better price point (Linksys PAP2T with 2 cheap handsets). So far all SIP DECT solutions I tried suck on some level. -- Daniel Tryba -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On 27/08/11 10:14, Gordon Henderson wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 26/08/11 19:02, linux guy wrote: I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk system. We've been using the Siemens Gigaset 685IP range for over three years and I'm (still) very pleased with them: +1 The current generation is the N300 or N300A (A = with answering machine). These have the advantage of being able to do 3 SIP calls at once. You also don't get a handset with it so you can choose whatever handset you want (in theory doesn't even have to be a Gigaset handset as long as it is GAP compatible but you'll have a better time if you do use Gigaset ones, or at least one). These definitely work well with Asterisk for me. So if you really need 6 calls at once then you can get 2 base stations and 6 handsets. If you can live with 6 handsets but only 3 of them in use at once, then a single base will do the job. cheers, Paul. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On 26/08/11 19:02, linux guy wrote: I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk system. We've been using the Siemens Gigaset 685IP range for over three years and I'm (still) very pleased with them: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2008/04/27/siemens-gigaset-685ip-phones/ -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 26/08/11 19:02, linux guy wrote: I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk system. We've been using the Siemens Gigaset 685IP range for over three years and I'm (still) very pleased with them: +1 The base station is separate from the handsets - which is typically different from most DECT setups - the plus point is that you can position the base in a good location - ie. high on a wall, rather than anywhere else. Another plus is that the base has a single built-in ATA, so it can connect to the home PSTN line. The base also has an Ethernet socket to connect to the LAN and it can have up to 6 SIP accounts - each handset (up to 6) can be configured to ring on a particular SIP account or many SIP accounts and/or the PSTN line. Each handset has a default SIP account (or PSTN) to make outgoing calls on, but you can select any other SIP account or the PSTN by appending a code to the number you dial. They are very flexible - and being DECT, have superb range. I've installed many of these for my customers - typically the home office types - where they only want one phone on their desk - so the same handset can answer their home phone or their office SIP account, while providing wireless handsets throughout the rest of the house. A limitation is that one base can only handle 2 simultaneous SIP calls (plus a call via the PSTN), so if 2 phones are in-use, then the system can't take a 3rd call, however that's rarely a limitation in a domestic environment. Gordon -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 13:55 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: I don't have any experience with them, but the Siemens Gigaset A580 IP seems to be about the best price point: http://www.voipsupply.com/siemens-gigaset-a580-ip I bought a Siemens Gigaset C475IP at the beginning of this year. RFC2833 dialling is broken, because it has broken handling of RTP mappings. If the peer doesn't ask for RFC2833 data in the same payload type as the C475 does (which it SHOULD but some don't), the C475 ignores the peer's rtpmap and just sends DTMF with the same payload type it asked to *receive* it in. I spent *months* trying to get a coherent response from Gigaset support and failing. Eventually when I filed a complaint about the lack of response, they told me they wouldn't fix it. They did say they'd replace it with a newer device but then have so far failed to follow through on that either. I won't be buying another Gigaset, and wouldn't recommend them either. -- dwmw2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk system. Any ideas ? Thanks ! LG -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On 08/26/2011 02:02 PM, linux guy wrote: get any cheap android device and load linphone. or grandstream works for a wired device. gxp2000 has enough line buttons you can easily route calls for multiple people to a phone and tell who the call is for I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk system. Any ideas ? Thanks ! LG -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
In our house, we need wireless. I have a Grandstream already. I am looking for something with a form factor more conventional than a cellphone. Maybe that is silly ? I see various unlocked large screen Android devices for ~$150. I was hoping to spend on the order of $50 per handset. I don't understand why (other than economies of scale) that I can buy various wireless POTS wireless systems (base and multiple handsets) for $100 and yet a single VOIP wireless handset is $150. Any comments on integrating a wireless POTS system into an asterisk system ? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On 08/26/2011 02:18 PM, linux guy wrote: In our house, we need wireless. I have a Grandstream already. I am looking for something with a form factor more conventional than a cellphone. Maybe that is silly ? I see various unlocked large screen Android devices for ~$150. not sure what you mean more than a cellphone ? get an ata such as an SPA series with 2 channels on it or PAP2T and plug a cordless base station in each one if you want to go cheap. it works but a single line cordless does not at all do justice to what can be done with asterisk. When you say large screen are you talking about an APAD type thing? they work just fine mounted on the wall (I use them for intercom and general control system interface) but I would not walk around holding one to my ear. I was hoping to spend on the order of $50 per handset. I don't understand why (other than economies of scale) that I can buy various wireless POTS wireless systems (base and multiple handsets) for $100 and yet a single VOIP wireless handset is $150. Any comments on integrating a wireless POTS system into an asterisk system ? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On Friday, August 26, 2011, linux guy wrote: Any comments on integrating a wireless POTS system into an asterisk system ? All you need is an ATA channel per handset ... FWIW, I've got three DECT analog phones in my system: two are hooked into a Linksys PAP2 and the third is hooked into a Grandstream ATA286. These are just like any other SIP client as far as Asterisk is concerned. I also had one hooked up via a Digium IAXy. ATM, the PAP2 route seems the cheapest as there's loads on eBay (at least, there are in UK). Just make sure what you get is unlocked because some VOIP providers use them and lock them into their own networks. HTH, -- Geoff -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On 08/26/2011 01:02 PM, linux guy wrote: I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk system. I don't have any experience with them, but the Siemens Gigaset A580 IP seems to be about the best price point: http://www.voipsupply.com/siemens-gigaset-a580-ip -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com If you're going to shift my paradigm ... at least buy me dinner first. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
I like the idea of running multiple ATAs with a single base or handset on each line. Something like the Panasonic KX-TG4111B which sells for about $40 for a handset and base. PAP2s sell for about $50 or $25 per line. Total cost of $65 per handset. Comments on this approach ? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/26/2011 01:02 PM, linux guy wrote: I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk system. I don't have any experience with them, but the Siemens Gigaset A580 IP seems to be about the best price point: http://www.voipsupply.com/siemens-gigaset-a580-ip Will those handsets talk directly to the SIP server ? Ie, can one throw away the base station ? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 13:18 -0600, linux guy wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/26/2011 01:02 PM, linux guy wrote: I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk system. I don't have any experience with them, but the Siemens Gigaset A580 IP seems to be about the best price point: http://www.voipsupply.com/siemens-gigaset-a580-ip Will those handsets talk directly to the SIP server ? Ie, can one throw away the base station ? -- Not the base station - you throw away the ATA. But yes, that is the idea. I have to admit that price point is starting to look more attractive. At least for my house phone my family expects to be able to pick up any handset in the house and be in conference with whatever conversation is going on, and I have solved that. I understand the benefits of a SIP client on a wifi / 3G+ phone, but when I have tried that in the past a few things have gotten in the way: * battery life on smartphones basically sucks !@#$@, and I find my smartphone is plugged into its charger more often than it is in my pocket, so I like the idea of handsets being littered around the house * voice and call quality - at least the last time I tried this (admittedly over a year ago) - was really lacking and inconsistent, and if on the road handoff usually breaks the call between towers * too complex for the wife ;) j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?
On 08/26/2011 03:17 PM, linux guy wrote: I like the idea of running multiple ATAs with a single base or handset on each line. Something like the Panasonic KX-TG4111B which sells for about $40 for a handset and base. PAP2s sell for about $50 or $25 per line. Total cost of $65 per handset. Comments on this approach ? I use it mixed in with other types of devices. The pap's really are pretty flexible devices for the money. I have one cordless but mostly wired fax, and doorphone. I have a rack of them and each just terminates into the building wiring for phone jacks, so at the user end its just a regular phone plugged in the wall. I used to have t1 card and channel bank, but that became a single expensive point of failure, needs a pc that has pci slots, and really is no more programmable than the sip boxes. So that is why I switched. The cordless handsets I just don't really like for reasons I have gone into already but that doesn't mean they don't work. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
