Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-09-04 Thread Thomas Kenyon
Geraint Lee wrote:
 I've used several hitachi dmp330's they work great, roam between 
 wireless access points with no loss of audio or connection for that matter.
 
 it will be a great shame if hitachi stop producing them, they are the 
 most reliable wireless sip phones i've come accross... stay well away 
 from pirelli phones, they are very buggy.
 
 Cheers
 
 Geraint
 
I have a pirelli in use, I haven't had any complaints with them being 
buggy (was a pain in the arse to pair to an AP), the biggest issue the 
user has is that apparently the battery lasts less than an hour.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones (Tzafrir Cohen)

2008-08-30 Thread Freddi Hansen





  The Siemens DECT line are open source. Not broadly available in the US
 though.
  
  
What does this mean? Could you please provide a link for more
information?
  


here's a link to the Siemens open source dect/wifi phones if that's
what you are looking for.

http://gigaset.siemens.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_121782_rArNrNrNrN,00.html

Freddi



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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Michael Graves wrote:

 I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom
 has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into
 the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like
 to see that are already in their plans.

One feature I hope they add is a way to use a different outgoung accout on 
a handset - right now, it's a very fiddly process to change outgoing 
accounts involving entering the PIN!

If only it were like the Siemens where you dial, push green and hold, then 
select...

And I am finding them a bit plasticy compared to the Siemens units. 
(Which is bizarre as their desk phones feel much more robust!)

Proprietary batteries too. (Siemens use AAA's)

Ah well - if that's what the customer wants then that's what they'll 
get...

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:40:18 +0100 (BST), Gordon Henderson wrote:

One feature I hope they add is a way to use a different outgoung accout on 
a handset - right now, it's a very fiddly process to change outgoing 
accounts involving entering the PIN!

I have a little video of the process of changing the active voip
account for outbound dialing. I just posted it to my blog this morning.
http://blog.mgraves.org.

If only it were like the Siemens where you dial, push green and hold, then 
select...

And I am finding them a bit plasticy compared to the Siemens units. 
(Which is bizarre as their desk phones feel much more robust!)

Proprietary batteries too. (Siemens use AAA's)

Ah well - if that's what the customer wants then that's what they'll 
get...

Yeah, but the m3 doesn't have any of the keyboard lag that the Siemens
phones suffer. When entering a number of the S685IP the phone seems
very slow to acknowledge each keypress.

My only gipe is that lack of an uploadable contact list, which I'm told
will be in the firmware update planned in September.

Michael
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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Karl Fife
 I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom
 has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into
 the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like
 to see that are already in their plans.

When I saw  held this phone at Astricon 2007, I was impressed with the
price/value ratio, but I was frankly a bit turned off by how 'creaky' it
felt.  If I held it between my ear and shoulder I'd hear the dreaded
chintzy plastic creaking sound.  I think the one I saw may have been a
pre-production prototype.  Does your Snom M3 have a cheap plastic creaky
build?  Does it feel 'chintzy' to you? 

-Karl

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Michael Graves wrote:

 On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:40:18 +0100 (BST), Gordon Henderson wrote:

 One feature I hope they add is a way to use a different outgoung accout on
 a handset - right now, it's a very fiddly process to change outgoing
 accounts involving entering the PIN!

 I have a little video of the process of changing the active voip
 account for outbound dialing. I just posted it to my blog this morning.
 http://blog.mgraves.org.

Yup. That's the way to do it. 9 button presses before you get to select.

So.. Try getting a mom  pop accountancy company to go through having to 
push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use 
for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to 
switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it 
easier?)

Bzzt. So Sorry Mr. Snom. Does not compute is my answer to that.

(so since they still liked the Snoms otherwise, my solution is to get them 
to dial a star at the end of a number to select their 'home' account, 
otherwise it goes out on their work account and the dialplan fixes it up)

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Karl Fife wrote:

 I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom
 has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into
 the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like
 to see that are already in their plans.

 When I saw  held this phone at Astricon 2007, I was impressed with the
 price/value ratio, but I was frankly a bit turned off by how 'creaky' it
 felt.  If I held it between my ear and shoulder I'd hear the dreaded
 chintzy plastic creaking sound.  I think the one I saw may have been a
 pre-production prototype.  Does your Snom M3 have a cheap plastic creaky
 build?  Does it feel 'chintzy' to you?

Yes. Yes.

It's strictly in the Grandstream class of phones as far as build quality 
seems to go. (without the good price that Grandstreams are!!!)

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Fred Posner

On Aug 29, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Karl Fife wrote:


I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom
has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort  
into
the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd  
like

to see that are already in their plans.


When I saw  held this phone at Astricon 2007, I was impressed with  
the
price/value ratio, but I was frankly a bit turned off by how  
'creaky' it

felt.  If I held it between my ear and shoulder I'd hear the dreaded
chintzy plastic creaking sound.  I think the one I saw may have been a
pre-production prototype.  Does your Snom M3 have a cheap plastic  
creaky

build?  Does it feel 'chintzy' to you?

-Karl



I haven't justified getting a DECT sip device yet. I did plug in a few  
DECT devices to my SIP ATA's which work nice (and cheap). The WIP330  
came in and so far I'm really liking it. I really like being able to  
grab a wifi connection and reg the extension.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Karl Fife
 
 Someone did report to me that they had difficulty getting MWI working
 on the snoms. I've not been able to test this with Asterisk yet. Since
 i rely on MWI from my desk phone (Polycom IP650) MWI on the cordless is
 not setup, and I don't let calls to the cordless go to VM right now.
 


Michael,

You  other may already know this, but you can make the MWI on your Snom
cordless sync the MWI status of the mailbox belonging to your Polycom
Desk phone, not it's own mailbox.  In other words, don't hesitate to use
the Snom MWI, just because you don't need another mailbox  The cordless
will indicate the MWI status of your desk phone's mailbox.

Here's how I did it.  
1.
Put the mailbox I wanted to subscribe to in the sip.conf context
belonging to the device. ALA:

[205]
;
;   Cordless
;
type=friend
username=205
secret=[sh]
host=dynamic
context=lc-route
[EMAIL PROTECTED];subscribing to mailbox 202 NOT x205

2.
Configure the Snom to mailbox 202 even though it's x205
Do this under 
Identity(n), Login,  Mailbox 

Viola!

-Karl





On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:34:02 -0500, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:40:18 +0100 (BST), Gordon Henderson wrote:
 
 One feature I hope they add is a way to use a different outgoung accout on 
 a handset - right now, it's a very fiddly process to change outgoing 
 accounts involving entering the PIN!
 
 I have a little video of the process of changing the active voip
 account for outbound dialing. I just posted it to my blog this morning.
 http://blog.mgraves.org.
 
 If only it were like the Siemens where you dial, push green and hold, then 
 select...
 
 And I am finding them a bit plasticy compared to the Siemens units. 
 (Which is bizarre as their desk phones feel much more robust!)
 
 Proprietary batteries too. (Siemens use AAA's)
 
 Ah well - if that's what the customer wants then that's what they'll 
 get...
 
 Yeah, but the m3 doesn't have any of the keyboard lag that the Siemens
 phones suffer. When entering a number of the S685IP the phone seems
 very slow to acknowledge each keypress.
 
 My only gipe is that lack of an uploadable contact list, which I'm told
 will be in the firmware update planned in September.
 
 Michael
 --
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 mgravesatmstvp.com
 http://blog.mgraves.org
 o713-861-4005
 c713-201-1262
 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Karl Fife
 So.. Try getting a mom  pop accountancy company to go through having
 to 
 push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use 
 for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to 
 switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it 
 easier?)


LOL to your customer response :-)

Sometimes I wonder:  Do the people who design these things actually use
telephones?  

Hopefully a hardware makers will use Astricon 2008 to announce some new
wireless endpoints.  There are some really nice SIP-DECT offerings out
there now, but I think they're quite spendy, even for coorporate
budgets.  You'd really have to have a very specific vertical wireless
application to get an decent ROI on that kind of cash outlay.

-Karl

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Ira
At 05:48 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote:
(so since they still liked the Snoms otherwise, my solution is to get them
to dial a star at the end of a number to select their 'home' account,
otherwise it goes out on their work account and the dialplan fixes it up)

We have 5 outgoing numbers we want to use selectively and we just 
dial 1,2,3,4 or 6 first which picks the proper rules. If you forget 
it asks which line you want to use and 1 is the line we want guests 
to use so it all works fine if you don't know what's going on.

Ira 


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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 09:56:36AM -0500, Karl Fife wrote:
  So.. Try getting a mom  pop accountancy company to go through having
  to 
  push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use 
  for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to 
  switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it 
  easier?)
 
 
 LOL to your customer response :-)
 
 Sometimes I wonder:  Do the people who design these things actually use
 telephones?  

And it makes me ask: is there any free software hardware phone?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Anselm Martin Hoffmeister
Am Freitag, den 29.08.2008, 09:16 -0700 schrieb Ira:
 At 05:48 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote:
 (so since they still liked the Snoms otherwise, my solution is to get them
 to dial a star at the end of a number to select their 'home' account,
 otherwise it goes out on their work account and the dialplan fixes it up)
 
 We have 5 outgoing numbers we want to use selectively and we just 
 dial 1,2,3,4 or 6 first which picks the proper rules. If you forget 
 it asks which line you want to use and 1 is the line we want guests 
 to use so it all works fine if you don't know what's going on.

Hi,

on German landlines the user can pick a carrier on a per-call basis (at
least if it is a T-Com line). The national dialplan assigns 010NX and
0100NX prefixes for that purpose. I believe similar access codes are in
operation in US (10-10-XXX?), and possibly your system blocks those for
similar reasons as we do (they are useless on VoIP lines here). 

So those codes can be used for selecting a non-default line, where I use
01099 to send out a call with my mobile phone Caller ID, 01090 for
anonymous no-callerid calling and 010[123][123] to select between three
providers with up to three outgoing Caller ID numbers each (and a few
others in the 010[4-8]X range). Not pre-pending such a number will make
a reasonable default choice here depending on the phone used. If the
percentage of non-default line calls is fair below 20% such a long
prefix is still better than dialing a digit before each number (with the
additional risk of forgetting that, or dialing that digit when calling
from other places :-)

This assures that guests have no trouble using the telephone, as they
just dial the phone number as they would from their own telephone at
home. If I want them to not have my caller ID on the callee display (no
call back, privacy, whatever) I simply tell them to dial the 01090
first - they will assume I want them to use a certain carrier, and not
need any additional instructions. Call-By-Call, being the German
name for it, is widely known. 

Another aspect of carrier selection codes opposed to switching lines on
the phone is that it is independant of the phone hardware at hand, be it
an analogue + adapter, ISDN + adapter, DECT, SIP hardphone, software...

Of course it is not necessary to allow all prefixes from all phones, or
have the same meaning of a prefix on all phones (01099 here would be an
example that sends a different Caller ID from different phones,
depending of the mobile phone number of the person usually using that
phone).

Best regards,

Anselm


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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:18:17 -0500, Karl Fife wrote:

 I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom
 has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into
 the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like
 to see that are already in their plans.

When I saw  held this phone at Astricon 2007, I was impressed with the
price/value ratio, but I was frankly a bit turned off by how 'creaky' it
felt.  If I held it between my ear and shoulder I'd hear the dreaded
chintzy plastic creaking sound.  I think the one I saw may have been a
pre-production prototype.  Does your Snom M3 have a cheap plastic creaky
build?  Does it feel 'chintzy' to you? 

-Karl

I've had mine in service for 8 months and it has not suffered any
physical problems. No, it doesn't have the look and feel of a good
quality cell phone. That's true. But it hasn't been a problem either.
If you're using it in a warehouse you may think differently.

The Polycom SpectraLink 8002 wifi handset definitely feels more
industrial strength. That's less than ideal for a lot of people. The
buttons may last a billion contacts, but your really gotta push to make
a positive keypress. It's like the Panasonic Toughbook of cordless
phones. Might be less than ideal for an office user.

I'm not unhappy with the m3. I may buy a repeater since the S685IP is
going bye bye soon.

Michael
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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:11:54 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 09:56:36AM -0500, Karl Fife wrote:
  So.. Try getting a mom  pop accountancy company to go through having
  to 
  push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use 
  for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to 
  switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it 
  easier?)
 
 
 LOL to your customer response :-)
 
 Sometimes I wonder:  Do the people who design these things actually use
 telephones?  

And it makes me ask: is there any free software hardware phone?

The Siemens DECT line are open source. Not broadly available in the US
though.

Michael
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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 06:08:40PM -0500, Michael Graves wrote:
 On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:11:54 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 
 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 09:56:36AM -0500, Karl Fife wrote:
   So.. Try getting a mom  pop accountancy company to go through having
   to 
   push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use 
   for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to 
   switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it 
   easier?)
  
  
  LOL to your customer response :-)
  
  Sometimes I wonder:  Do the people who design these things actually use
  telephones?  
 
 And it makes me ask: is there any free software hardware phone?
 
 The Siemens DECT line are open source. Not broadly available in the US
 though.

What does this mean? Could you please provide a link for more
information?

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[asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Jaap Winius
Hi list,

Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet?

Six months ago I went for the Siemens Gigaset 675IP. Although there  
was a bug in the MWI support, unit #1 seemed fine for the first few  
weeks, so I bought #2 and #3. Then the problems started. Of the three  
units, two regularly lock up, which requires the base station to be  
reset, and two do not perform DTMF menu navigation properly (I live in  
the Netherlands). There was a recent firmware update for this model,  
but there may as well not have been. You'd think that a big company  
like Siemens that has been making rock-solid DECT phones (analog and  
ISDN) for years could do better, but apparently not.

Since the firmware seems to be the same, there's no way I'm going to  
upgrade to the 685IP. I was thinking of trying out the Snom M3, but  
according to voip-info.org, that model suffers from similar  
reliability problems.

There is also the possibility of using a Wi-Fi SIP phone instead, but  
I haven't been able to find a positive review of one of these phones  
either, despite the promising concept.

So, what's the most reliable wireless SIP phone these days: an analog  
DECT phone with a Linksys SPA adapter?

Thanks,

Jaap

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Thursday 28 August 2008 08:06:37 Jaap Winius wrote:
 Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet?

I've gotten a Hitachi WIP3000, which works great.  Supports b  g, all the
wireless encryption standards, scans networks, everything a laptop softphone
would do, but in a wireless handset.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
We had some problems with siemens 675ip with audio, but with the correct
setup they disappeared, we are using one base and 2 phones.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
I you have such a problems with siemens you should consider 8 voip port
linksys gateway with dect bases, their gateway is rock solid and cheap.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Darren Nickerson

On Aug 28, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Jaap Winius wrote:

 Hi list,

 Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market  
 yet?


We typically prefer DECT in which case the SNOM M3 is a strong  
contender, but recently our customers have told us good things about  
Polycom's new wifi handset:

http://www.telephonydepot.com/product_p/105-058-8002dual.htm

One limitation is that there's no minibrowser, so you won't be able to  
navigate the http proxy signup/authentication page at your local  
coffee shop. Works great in the typical office setting though!

Sincerely,

-- 
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Senior Sales  Support Engineer
Telephony Depot
www.telephonydepot.com
+1.215.825.8710 ext 8106 (office)
+1.215.243.8335 (fax)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Cory Andrews
Just a heads up, Hitachi is effectively ceasing production of their IP5000 and 
IP3000 WiFi SIP Phonesproduct availability is next to nil on these. They 
also have no plans apparently to continue producing WiFi phones.

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

On Thursday 28 August 2008 08:06:37 Jaap Winius wrote:
 Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet?

I've gotten a Hitachi WIP3000, which works great.  Supports b  g, all the
wireless encryption standards, scans networks, everything a laptop softphone
would do, but in a wireless handset.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Geraint Lee
I've used several hitachi dmp330's they work great, roam between wireless
access points with no loss of audio or connection for that matter.

it will be a great shame if hitachi stop producing them, they are the most
reliable wireless sip phones i've come accross... stay well away from
pirelli phones, they are very buggy.

Cheers

Geraint

2008/8/28 Cory Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Just a heads up, Hitachi is effectively ceasing production of their IP5000
 and IP3000 WiFi SIP Phonesproduct availability is next to nil on these.
 They also have no plans apparently to continue producing WiFi phones.

 Cory J. Andrews
 Director New Market Initiatives

 VoIP Supply, LLC.
 454 Sonwil Drive
 Buffalo, NY 14225
 716-250-3402 OFFICE
 716-630-1548 FAX
 716-601-4474 MOBILE
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 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

 On Thursday 28 August 2008 08:06:37 Jaap Winius wrote:
  Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet?

 I've gotten a Hitachi WIP3000, which works great.  Supports b  g, all the
 wireless encryption standards, scans networks, everything a laptop
 softphone
 would do, but in a wireless handset.

 --
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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread David Nedved

 I you have such a problems with siemens you should consider
 8 voip port
 linksys gateway with dect bases, their gateway is rock
 solid and cheap.

I'd recommend against buying new analog POTS gear myself.  We've got a mix of 
SNOM 300 corded VOIP phones and generic DECT bases attached to Linksys 
SPA-whatever ATAs.  The user experience is much more positive and direct using 
an actual integrated VOIP phone rather than going through the ATA.  SNOM offer 
SIP DECT bases and I've got one on order now for a proof-of-concept to get the 
analog DECT bases and Linksys ATAs out of the mix.

It's hard to put your finger exactly on all of the little differences that make 
the actual VOIP phone feel like better quality but I'll try:

- can key as fast as you want and see your number and correct as you're dialing 
(Linksys ATA seems to get confused if you DTMF too quickly and no option to 
correct)
- can hit the checkmark button to dial immediately. Usersfind this more 
intuitive than hitting # key, more like a mobile phone
- callerid with alpha text such as other extensions works properly (although 
this could be a phone issue with our cheap DECT bases)
- easy multi-line support

The Linksys ATAs were quick to deploy, and low-cost and low-risk as they let us 
re-use existing POTS gear with easy fallback to analog, but I wouldn't choose 
that route for a new install.


  

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Thursday 28 August 2008 08:59:29 Geraint Lee wrote:
 On 2008/8/28, Cory Andrews wrote:

  Just a heads up, Hitachi is effectively ceasing production of their
  IP5000 and IP3000 WiFi SIP Phonesproduct availability is next to nil
  on these. They also have no plans apparently to continue producing WiFi
  phones.

 I've used several hitachi dmp330's they work great, roam between wireless
 access points with no loss of audio or connection for that matter.

 it will be a great shame if hitachi stop producing them, they are the most
 reliable wireless sip phones i've come accross... stay well away from
 pirelli phones, they are very buggy.

That is indeed too bad.  I may have to pick up another Hitachi 3000 before the
stock becomes impossible to get.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Alan Lord
Jaap Winius wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet?
 
snip /
 
 Since the firmware seems to be the same, there's no way I'm going to  
 upgrade to the 685IP. I was thinking of trying out the Snom M3, but  
 according to voip-info.org, that model suffers from similar  
 reliability problems.
 

I know it won't help you much but we have two sets of S685IPs (three h/s 
  in each set) and no problems to speak of.

I also liked the M3 but I wanted a PSTN port on the b/station too :-(

Al

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Jaap Winius wrote:


Hi list,

Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet?

Six months ago I went for the Siemens Gigaset 675IP. Although there
was a bug in the MWI support, unit #1 seemed fine for the first few
weeks, so I bought #2 and #3. Then the problems started. Of the three
units, two regularly lock up, which requires the base station to be
reset, and two do not perform DTMF menu navigation properly (I live in
the Netherlands). There was a recent firmware update for this model,
but there may as well not have been. You'd think that a big company
like Siemens that has been making rock-solid DECT phones (analog and
ISDN) for years could do better, but apparently not.

Since the firmware seems to be the same, there's no way I'm going to
upgrade to the 685IP. I was thinking of trying out the Snom M3, but
according to voip-info.org, that model suffers from similar
reliability problems.


Hm. I've just bought an M3 set for a client, but the range isn't anywhere 
near as good as the Siemens I've been using...


and re. the Siemens - I had that issue with the older C460IP phones - my 
solution for clients was to sell them with a cheap (£5) wall timer 
programmed to kill the power at 4am and come on again at 4:15. (the cheap 
dial ones only have a 15-minute resolution!)


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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Fred Posner

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Jaap Winius wrote:


Hi list,

Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market  
yet?



My Linksys WIP330 should arrive today. I've always wanted to test how  
well it would work in hotspots... will let you know.



Fred Posner
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Tel: +1 (212) 937-7844 x501
Fax: +1 (954) 252-4187

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Fred Posner

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Jaap Winius wrote:


Hi list,

Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market  
yet?



My Linksys WIP330 should arrive today. I've always wanted to test how  
well it would work in hotspots... will let you know.



Fred Posner
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Tel: +1 (212) 937-7844 x501
Fax: +1 (954) 252-4187

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Tom Moore
I have a client testing one of these and he is happy with it so far.
I don't know if there are any known problems yet with this phone, but would
be interested in knowing about your review.

Tom
 

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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

 On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Jaap Winius wrote:

 Hi list,

 Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market  
 yet?


My Linksys WIP330 should arrive today. I've always wanted to test how  
well it would work in hotspots... will let you know.


Fred Posner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tel: +1 (212) 937-7844 x501
Fax: +1 (954) 252-4187

www.teamforrest.com



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Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones

2008-08-28 Thread Michael Graves
I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom
has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into
the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like
to see that are already in their plans.

Someone did report to me that they had difficulty getting MWI working
on the snoms. I've not been able to test this with Asterisk yet. Since
i rely on MWI from my desk phone (Polycom IP650) MWI on the cordless is
not setup, and I don't let calls to the cordless go to VM right now.

Michael

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:06:37 +0200, Jaap Winius wrote:

Hi list,

Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet?

Six months ago I went for the Siemens Gigaset 675IP. Although there  
was a bug in the MWI support, unit #1 seemed fine for the first few  
weeks, so I bought #2 and #3. Then the problems started. Of the three  
units, two regularly lock up, which requires the base station to be  
reset, and two do not perform DTMF menu navigation properly (I live in  
the Netherlands). There was a recent firmware update for this model,  
but there may as well not have been. You'd think that a big company  
like Siemens that has been making rock-solid DECT phones (analog and  
ISDN) for years could do better, but apparently not.

Since the firmware seems to be the same, there's no way I'm going to  
upgrade to the 685IP. I was thinking of trying out the Snom M3, but  
according to voip-info.org, that model suffers from similar  
reliability problems.

There is also the possibility of using a Wi-Fi SIP phone instead, but  
I haven't been able to find a positive review of one of these phones  
either, despite the promising concept.

So, what's the most reliable wireless SIP phone these days: an analog  
DECT phone with a Linksys SPA adapter?

Thanks,

Jaap

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