Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
Geraint Lee wrote: I've used several hitachi dmp330's they work great, roam between wireless access points with no loss of audio or connection for that matter. it will be a great shame if hitachi stop producing them, they are the most reliable wireless sip phones i've come accross... stay well away from pirelli phones, they are very buggy. Cheers Geraint I have a pirelli in use, I haven't had any complaints with them being buggy (was a pain in the arse to pair to an AP), the biggest issue the user has is that apparently the battery lasts less than an hour. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones (Tzafrir Cohen)
The Siemens DECT line are open source. Not broadly available in the US though. What does this mean? Could you please provide a link for more information? here's a link to the Siemens open source dect/wifi phones if that's what you are looking for. http://gigaset.siemens.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_121782_rArNrNrNrN,00.html Freddi ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Michael Graves wrote: I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like to see that are already in their plans. One feature I hope they add is a way to use a different outgoung accout on a handset - right now, it's a very fiddly process to change outgoing accounts involving entering the PIN! If only it were like the Siemens where you dial, push green and hold, then select... And I am finding them a bit plasticy compared to the Siemens units. (Which is bizarre as their desk phones feel much more robust!) Proprietary batteries too. (Siemens use AAA's) Ah well - if that's what the customer wants then that's what they'll get... Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:40:18 +0100 (BST), Gordon Henderson wrote: One feature I hope they add is a way to use a different outgoung accout on a handset - right now, it's a very fiddly process to change outgoing accounts involving entering the PIN! I have a little video of the process of changing the active voip account for outbound dialing. I just posted it to my blog this morning. http://blog.mgraves.org. If only it were like the Siemens where you dial, push green and hold, then select... And I am finding them a bit plasticy compared to the Siemens units. (Which is bizarre as their desk phones feel much more robust!) Proprietary batteries too. (Siemens use AAA's) Ah well - if that's what the customer wants then that's what they'll get... Yeah, but the m3 doesn't have any of the keyboard lag that the Siemens phones suffer. When entering a number of the S685IP the phone seems very slow to acknowledge each keypress. My only gipe is that lack of an uploadable contact list, which I'm told will be in the firmware update planned in September. Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like to see that are already in their plans. When I saw held this phone at Astricon 2007, I was impressed with the price/value ratio, but I was frankly a bit turned off by how 'creaky' it felt. If I held it between my ear and shoulder I'd hear the dreaded chintzy plastic creaking sound. I think the one I saw may have been a pre-production prototype. Does your Snom M3 have a cheap plastic creaky build? Does it feel 'chintzy' to you? -Karl ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Michael Graves wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:40:18 +0100 (BST), Gordon Henderson wrote: One feature I hope they add is a way to use a different outgoung accout on a handset - right now, it's a very fiddly process to change outgoing accounts involving entering the PIN! I have a little video of the process of changing the active voip account for outbound dialing. I just posted it to my blog this morning. http://blog.mgraves.org. Yup. That's the way to do it. 9 button presses before you get to select. So.. Try getting a mom pop accountancy company to go through having to push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it easier?) Bzzt. So Sorry Mr. Snom. Does not compute is my answer to that. (so since they still liked the Snoms otherwise, my solution is to get them to dial a star at the end of a number to select their 'home' account, otherwise it goes out on their work account and the dialplan fixes it up) Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Karl Fife wrote: I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like to see that are already in their plans. When I saw held this phone at Astricon 2007, I was impressed with the price/value ratio, but I was frankly a bit turned off by how 'creaky' it felt. If I held it between my ear and shoulder I'd hear the dreaded chintzy plastic creaking sound. I think the one I saw may have been a pre-production prototype. Does your Snom M3 have a cheap plastic creaky build? Does it feel 'chintzy' to you? Yes. Yes. It's strictly in the Grandstream class of phones as far as build quality seems to go. (without the good price that Grandstreams are!!!) Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Aug 29, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Karl Fife wrote: I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like to see that are already in their plans. When I saw held this phone at Astricon 2007, I was impressed with the price/value ratio, but I was frankly a bit turned off by how 'creaky' it felt. If I held it between my ear and shoulder I'd hear the dreaded chintzy plastic creaking sound. I think the one I saw may have been a pre-production prototype. Does your Snom M3 have a cheap plastic creaky build? Does it feel 'chintzy' to you? -Karl I haven't justified getting a DECT sip device yet. I did plug in a few DECT devices to my SIP ATA's which work nice (and cheap). The WIP330 came in and so far I'm really liking it. I really like being able to grab a wifi connection and reg the extension. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
Someone did report to me that they had difficulty getting MWI working on the snoms. I've not been able to test this with Asterisk yet. Since i rely on MWI from my desk phone (Polycom IP650) MWI on the cordless is not setup, and I don't let calls to the cordless go to VM right now. Michael, You other may already know this, but you can make the MWI on your Snom cordless sync the MWI status of the mailbox belonging to your Polycom Desk phone, not it's own mailbox. In other words, don't hesitate to use the Snom MWI, just because you don't need another mailbox The cordless will indicate the MWI status of your desk phone's mailbox. Here's how I did it. 1. Put the mailbox I wanted to subscribe to in the sip.conf context belonging to the device. ALA: [205] ; ; Cordless ; type=friend username=205 secret=[sh] host=dynamic context=lc-route [EMAIL PROTECTED];subscribing to mailbox 202 NOT x205 2. Configure the Snom to mailbox 202 even though it's x205 Do this under Identity(n), Login, Mailbox Viola! -Karl On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:34:02 -0500, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:40:18 +0100 (BST), Gordon Henderson wrote: One feature I hope they add is a way to use a different outgoung accout on a handset - right now, it's a very fiddly process to change outgoing accounts involving entering the PIN! I have a little video of the process of changing the active voip account for outbound dialing. I just posted it to my blog this morning. http://blog.mgraves.org. If only it were like the Siemens where you dial, push green and hold, then select... And I am finding them a bit plasticy compared to the Siemens units. (Which is bizarre as their desk phones feel much more robust!) Proprietary batteries too. (Siemens use AAA's) Ah well - if that's what the customer wants then that's what they'll get... Yeah, but the m3 doesn't have any of the keyboard lag that the Siemens phones suffer. When entering a number of the S685IP the phone seems very slow to acknowledge each keypress. My only gipe is that lack of an uploadable contact list, which I'm told will be in the firmware update planned in September. Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
So.. Try getting a mom pop accountancy company to go through having to push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it easier?) LOL to your customer response :-) Sometimes I wonder: Do the people who design these things actually use telephones? Hopefully a hardware makers will use Astricon 2008 to announce some new wireless endpoints. There are some really nice SIP-DECT offerings out there now, but I think they're quite spendy, even for coorporate budgets. You'd really have to have a very specific vertical wireless application to get an decent ROI on that kind of cash outlay. -Karl ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
At 05:48 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: (so since they still liked the Snoms otherwise, my solution is to get them to dial a star at the end of a number to select their 'home' account, otherwise it goes out on their work account and the dialplan fixes it up) We have 5 outgoing numbers we want to use selectively and we just dial 1,2,3,4 or 6 first which picks the proper rules. If you forget it asks which line you want to use and 1 is the line we want guests to use so it all works fine if you don't know what's going on. Ira ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 09:56:36AM -0500, Karl Fife wrote: So.. Try getting a mom pop accountancy company to go through having to push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it easier?) LOL to your customer response :-) Sometimes I wonder: Do the people who design these things actually use telephones? And it makes me ask: is there any free software hardware phone? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
Am Freitag, den 29.08.2008, 09:16 -0700 schrieb Ira: At 05:48 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote: (so since they still liked the Snoms otherwise, my solution is to get them to dial a star at the end of a number to select their 'home' account, otherwise it goes out on their work account and the dialplan fixes it up) We have 5 outgoing numbers we want to use selectively and we just dial 1,2,3,4 or 6 first which picks the proper rules. If you forget it asks which line you want to use and 1 is the line we want guests to use so it all works fine if you don't know what's going on. Hi, on German landlines the user can pick a carrier on a per-call basis (at least if it is a T-Com line). The national dialplan assigns 010NX and 0100NX prefixes for that purpose. I believe similar access codes are in operation in US (10-10-XXX?), and possibly your system blocks those for similar reasons as we do (they are useless on VoIP lines here). So those codes can be used for selecting a non-default line, where I use 01099 to send out a call with my mobile phone Caller ID, 01090 for anonymous no-callerid calling and 010[123][123] to select between three providers with up to three outgoing Caller ID numbers each (and a few others in the 010[4-8]X range). Not pre-pending such a number will make a reasonable default choice here depending on the phone used. If the percentage of non-default line calls is fair below 20% such a long prefix is still better than dialing a digit before each number (with the additional risk of forgetting that, or dialing that digit when calling from other places :-) This assures that guests have no trouble using the telephone, as they just dial the phone number as they would from their own telephone at home. If I want them to not have my caller ID on the callee display (no call back, privacy, whatever) I simply tell them to dial the 01090 first - they will assume I want them to use a certain carrier, and not need any additional instructions. Call-By-Call, being the German name for it, is widely known. Another aspect of carrier selection codes opposed to switching lines on the phone is that it is independant of the phone hardware at hand, be it an analogue + adapter, ISDN + adapter, DECT, SIP hardphone, software... Of course it is not necessary to allow all prefixes from all phones, or have the same meaning of a prefix on all phones (01099 here would be an example that sends a different Caller ID from different phones, depending of the mobile phone number of the person usually using that phone). Best regards, Anselm smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:18:17 -0500, Karl Fife wrote: I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like to see that are already in their plans. When I saw held this phone at Astricon 2007, I was impressed with the price/value ratio, but I was frankly a bit turned off by how 'creaky' it felt. If I held it between my ear and shoulder I'd hear the dreaded chintzy plastic creaking sound. I think the one I saw may have been a pre-production prototype. Does your Snom M3 have a cheap plastic creaky build? Does it feel 'chintzy' to you? -Karl I've had mine in service for 8 months and it has not suffered any physical problems. No, it doesn't have the look and feel of a good quality cell phone. That's true. But it hasn't been a problem either. If you're using it in a warehouse you may think differently. The Polycom SpectraLink 8002 wifi handset definitely feels more industrial strength. That's less than ideal for a lot of people. The buttons may last a billion contacts, but your really gotta push to make a positive keypress. It's like the Panasonic Toughbook of cordless phones. Might be less than ideal for an office user. I'm not unhappy with the m3. I may buy a repeater since the S685IP is going bye bye soon. Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:11:54 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 09:56:36AM -0500, Karl Fife wrote: So.. Try getting a mom pop accountancy company to go through having to push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it easier?) LOL to your customer response :-) Sometimes I wonder: Do the people who design these things actually use telephones? And it makes me ask: is there any free software hardware phone? The Siemens DECT line are open source. Not broadly available in the US though. Michael -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 06:08:40PM -0500, Michael Graves wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:11:54 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 09:56:36AM -0500, Karl Fife wrote: So.. Try getting a mom pop accountancy company to go through having to push 9 key-preses before they get to select the account they want to use for outgoing calls (business or home on their case) THEN remembering to switch it back again. (Their response was Fuck that, can't you make it easier?) LOL to your customer response :-) Sometimes I wonder: Do the people who design these things actually use telephones? And it makes me ask: is there any free software hardware phone? The Siemens DECT line are open source. Not broadly available in the US though. What does this mean? Could you please provide a link for more information? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
Hi list, Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? Six months ago I went for the Siemens Gigaset 675IP. Although there was a bug in the MWI support, unit #1 seemed fine for the first few weeks, so I bought #2 and #3. Then the problems started. Of the three units, two regularly lock up, which requires the base station to be reset, and two do not perform DTMF menu navigation properly (I live in the Netherlands). There was a recent firmware update for this model, but there may as well not have been. You'd think that a big company like Siemens that has been making rock-solid DECT phones (analog and ISDN) for years could do better, but apparently not. Since the firmware seems to be the same, there's no way I'm going to upgrade to the 685IP. I was thinking of trying out the Snom M3, but according to voip-info.org, that model suffers from similar reliability problems. There is also the possibility of using a Wi-Fi SIP phone instead, but I haven't been able to find a positive review of one of these phones either, despite the promising concept. So, what's the most reliable wireless SIP phone these days: an analog DECT phone with a Linksys SPA adapter? Thanks, Jaap ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Thursday 28 August 2008 08:06:37 Jaap Winius wrote: Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? I've gotten a Hitachi WIP3000, which works great. Supports b g, all the wireless encryption standards, scans networks, everything a laptop softphone would do, but in a wireless handset. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
We had some problems with siemens 675ip with audio, but with the correct setup they disappeared, we are using one base and 2 phones. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
I you have such a problems with siemens you should consider 8 voip port linksys gateway with dect bases, their gateway is rock solid and cheap. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Aug 28, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Jaap Winius wrote: Hi list, Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? We typically prefer DECT in which case the SNOM M3 is a strong contender, but recently our customers have told us good things about Polycom's new wifi handset: http://www.telephonydepot.com/product_p/105-058-8002dual.htm One limitation is that there's no minibrowser, so you won't be able to navigate the http proxy signup/authentication page at your local coffee shop. Works great in the typical office setting though! Sincerely, -- Darren Nickerson Senior Sales Support Engineer Telephony Depot www.telephonydepot.com +1.215.825.8710 ext 8106 (office) +1.215.243.8335 (fax) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
Just a heads up, Hitachi is effectively ceasing production of their IP5000 and IP3000 WiFi SIP Phonesproduct availability is next to nil on these. They also have no plans apparently to continue producing WiFi phones. Cory J. Andrews Director New Market Initiatives VoIP Supply, LLC. 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 716-250-3402 OFFICE 716-630-1548 FAX 716-601-4474 MOBILE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have I exceeded your expectations? Please share your experience with my boss, Benjamin P. Sayers, CEO NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). It is the property of the VoIP Supply, LLC and shall not be used, disclosed or reproduced without the express written consent of VoIP Supply, LLC. If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail or telephone and then delete this message, including any attachments. Our mailing address is 454 Sonwil Drive, Buffalo, NY 14225 USA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones On Thursday 28 August 2008 08:06:37 Jaap Winius wrote: Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? I've gotten a Hitachi WIP3000, which works great. Supports b g, all the wireless encryption standards, scans networks, everything a laptop softphone would do, but in a wireless handset. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
I've used several hitachi dmp330's they work great, roam between wireless access points with no loss of audio or connection for that matter. it will be a great shame if hitachi stop producing them, they are the most reliable wireless sip phones i've come accross... stay well away from pirelli phones, they are very buggy. Cheers Geraint 2008/8/28 Cory Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a heads up, Hitachi is effectively ceasing production of their IP5000 and IP3000 WiFi SIP Phonesproduct availability is next to nil on these. They also have no plans apparently to continue producing WiFi phones. Cory J. Andrews Director New Market Initiatives VoIP Supply, LLC. 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 716-250-3402 OFFICE 716-630-1548 FAX 716-601-4474 MOBILE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have I exceeded your expectations? Please share your experience with my boss, Benjamin P. Sayers, CEO NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). It is the property of the VoIP Supply, LLC and shall not be used, disclosed or reproduced without the express written consent of VoIP Supply, LLC. If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail or telephone and then delete this message, including any attachments. Our mailing address is 454 Sonwil Drive, Buffalo, NY 14225 USA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:35 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones On Thursday 28 August 2008 08:06:37 Jaap Winius wrote: Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? I've gotten a Hitachi WIP3000, which works great. Supports b g, all the wireless encryption standards, scans networks, everything a laptop softphone would do, but in a wireless handset. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
I you have such a problems with siemens you should consider 8 voip port linksys gateway with dect bases, their gateway is rock solid and cheap. I'd recommend against buying new analog POTS gear myself. We've got a mix of SNOM 300 corded VOIP phones and generic DECT bases attached to Linksys SPA-whatever ATAs. The user experience is much more positive and direct using an actual integrated VOIP phone rather than going through the ATA. SNOM offer SIP DECT bases and I've got one on order now for a proof-of-concept to get the analog DECT bases and Linksys ATAs out of the mix. It's hard to put your finger exactly on all of the little differences that make the actual VOIP phone feel like better quality but I'll try: - can key as fast as you want and see your number and correct as you're dialing (Linksys ATA seems to get confused if you DTMF too quickly and no option to correct) - can hit the checkmark button to dial immediately. Usersfind this more intuitive than hitting # key, more like a mobile phone - callerid with alpha text such as other extensions works properly (although this could be a phone issue with our cheap DECT bases) - easy multi-line support The Linksys ATAs were quick to deploy, and low-cost and low-risk as they let us re-use existing POTS gear with easy fallback to analog, but I wouldn't choose that route for a new install. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Thursday 28 August 2008 08:59:29 Geraint Lee wrote: On 2008/8/28, Cory Andrews wrote: Just a heads up, Hitachi is effectively ceasing production of their IP5000 and IP3000 WiFi SIP Phonesproduct availability is next to nil on these. They also have no plans apparently to continue producing WiFi phones. I've used several hitachi dmp330's they work great, roam between wireless access points with no loss of audio or connection for that matter. it will be a great shame if hitachi stop producing them, they are the most reliable wireless sip phones i've come accross... stay well away from pirelli phones, they are very buggy. That is indeed too bad. I may have to pick up another Hitachi 3000 before the stock becomes impossible to get. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
Jaap Winius wrote: Hi list, Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? snip / Since the firmware seems to be the same, there's no way I'm going to upgrade to the 685IP. I was thinking of trying out the Snom M3, but according to voip-info.org, that model suffers from similar reliability problems. I know it won't help you much but we have two sets of S685IPs (three h/s in each set) and no problems to speak of. I also liked the M3 but I wanted a PSTN port on the b/station too :-( Al -- The way out is open! http://www.theopensourcerer.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Jaap Winius wrote: Hi list, Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? Six months ago I went for the Siemens Gigaset 675IP. Although there was a bug in the MWI support, unit #1 seemed fine for the first few weeks, so I bought #2 and #3. Then the problems started. Of the three units, two regularly lock up, which requires the base station to be reset, and two do not perform DTMF menu navigation properly (I live in the Netherlands). There was a recent firmware update for this model, but there may as well not have been. You'd think that a big company like Siemens that has been making rock-solid DECT phones (analog and ISDN) for years could do better, but apparently not. Since the firmware seems to be the same, there's no way I'm going to upgrade to the 685IP. I was thinking of trying out the Snom M3, but according to voip-info.org, that model suffers from similar reliability problems. Hm. I've just bought an M3 set for a client, but the range isn't anywhere near as good as the Siemens I've been using... and re. the Siemens - I had that issue with the older C460IP phones - my solution for clients was to sell them with a cheap (£5) wall timer programmed to kill the power at 4am and come on again at 4:15. (the cheap dial ones only have a 15-minute resolution!) Gordon___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Jaap Winius wrote: Hi list, Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? My Linksys WIP330 should arrive today. I've always wanted to test how well it would work in hotspots... will let you know. Fred Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +1 (212) 937-7844 x501 Fax: +1 (954) 252-4187 www.teamforrest.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Jaap Winius wrote: Hi list, Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? My Linksys WIP330 should arrive today. I've always wanted to test how well it would work in hotspots... will let you know. Fred Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +1 (212) 937-7844 x501 Fax: +1 (954) 252-4187 www.teamforrest.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
I have a client testing one of these and he is happy with it so far. I don't know if there are any known problems yet with this phone, but would be interested in knowing about your review. Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Posner Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Jaap Winius wrote: Hi list, Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? My Linksys WIP330 should arrive today. I've always wanted to test how well it would work in hotspots... will let you know. Fred Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +1 (212) 937-7844 x501 Fax: +1 (954) 252-4187 www.teamforrest.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Reliable wireless SIP phones
I've had essentially no problems with my snom m3s. Someone from snom has been in touch to confirm that they are now putting more effort into the firmware for this phone. There are a few new features that I'd like to see that are already in their plans. Someone did report to me that they had difficulty getting MWI working on the snoms. I've not been able to test this with Asterisk yet. Since i rely on MWI from my desk phone (Polycom IP650) MWI on the cordless is not setup, and I don't let calls to the cordless go to VM right now. Michael On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:06:37 +0200, Jaap Winius wrote: Hi list, Are there any reliable wireless SIP phones available on the market yet? Six months ago I went for the Siemens Gigaset 675IP. Although there was a bug in the MWI support, unit #1 seemed fine for the first few weeks, so I bought #2 and #3. Then the problems started. Of the three units, two regularly lock up, which requires the base station to be reset, and two do not perform DTMF menu navigation properly (I live in the Netherlands). There was a recent firmware update for this model, but there may as well not have been. You'd think that a big company like Siemens that has been making rock-solid DECT phones (analog and ISDN) for years could do better, but apparently not. Since the firmware seems to be the same, there's no way I'm going to upgrade to the 685IP. I was thinking of trying out the Snom M3, but according to voip-info.org, that model suffers from similar reliability problems. There is also the possibility of using a Wi-Fi SIP phone instead, but I haven't been able to find a positive review of one of these phones either, despite the promising concept. So, what's the most reliable wireless SIP phone these days: an analog DECT phone with a Linksys SPA adapter? Thanks, Jaap ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1631 - Release Date: 8/24/2008 12:15 PM -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
