Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread Iain Young
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:39:21AM -0500, jltaylor wrote:

> I've seen the embedded posts.
> Is anyone running Asterisk on the MINI ITX?

Yes, no problems, I have an X100P in the PCI slot, but its only
a single POTS line. I used the MII board, but only because thats
what I had avaliable.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread Matt Gibson

jltaylor wrote:


I've seen the embedded posts.
Is anyone running Asterisk on the MINI ITX?
 

Not directly related, but I got OpenBSD to boot on a CF card , on my 
Soekris this weekend.


Soekris is also selling units with the sangoma card as a daughterboard, 
might be a cheaper/quiter alternative

to Mini ITX if you don't have to transcode.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread jltaylor
It may not be enough horsepower...
I'm looking for a "black box", with a PCI slot to put in a telco closet.
Needs to be able to take the 4 port T1 card (pci slot) and do g729 for 50-60
calls.

Any suggestions?

James Taylor
MetroTel
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Suite 11
Texarkana, Tx  75503
903-793-1956


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On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:39:21AM -0500, jltaylor wrote:

> I've seen the embedded posts.
> Is anyone running Asterisk on the MINI ITX?

Yes, no problems, I have an X100P in the PCI slot, but its only
a single POTS line. I used the MII board, but only because thats
what I had avaliable.


Iain
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread Bob Goddard
On Thursday 23 Jun 2005 17:39, jltaylor wrote:
> I've seen the embedded posts.
> Is anyone running Asterisk on the MINI ITX?

Yes. 4BRI cards in 2 separate systems hosting 10 nodes.


B
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)
I have a 3 GHz Mini ITX with 1 GB ram, I don't think it would be much of 
a feat to run Asterisk on it. In fact, that;'s my demo system, small, 
light, looks great and very fast. The only downside is the single pci 
slot, with a T1 card in there there no room for an additinal NIC.


jltaylor wrote:


I've seen the embedded posts.
Is anyone running Asterisk on the MINI ITX?

James Taylor
MetroTel
3505 Summerhill Road
Suite 11
Texarkana, Tx  75503
903-793-1956

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread Wiley Siler
Why everyone uses Epia only in mini-itx I still don't get since
horsepower is pretty low for Epia once trans-coding starts...

I would think that Mini-ITX Pentium M is the way to go...
http://www.ibase-i.com.tw/mb890.htm

Throw that in a mini-itx case and you get low power, low wattage high
horsepower to boot...

Has anyone spent any time using Pentium M and *?
That would seem a more logical path for black box solutions...

Thoughts?

W




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On Thursday 23 Jun 2005 17:39, jltaylor wrote:
> I've seen the embedded posts.
> Is anyone running Asterisk on the MINI ITX?

Yes. 4BRI cards in 2 separate systems hosting 10 nodes.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread BJ Weschke
 I have used it. The biggest difficulty of the footprint is that the
chip doesn't do IO-APIC-edge interrupt handling in linux so you end up
having a real difficult time if you try to add additional devices (eg
- zaptel cards, more nic cards, etc) and don't want to end up sharing
interrupts with all of the on board stuff they've usually got jammed
onto the boards already.

 

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> I've seen the embedded posts.
> Is anyone running Asterisk on the MINI ITX?
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> Suite 11
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)

jltaylor wrote:


It may not be enough horsepower...
I'm looking for a "black box", with a PCI slot to put in a telco closet.
Needs to be able to take the 4 port T1 card (pci slot) and do g729 for 50-60
calls.

Any suggestions?

 


A shuttle with a 3GHz CPU will do it without a problem.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread Andrew Latham
EPIA means low heat, noise, and long run times along with a smaller
box. Personally I would shoot for the Transmeta ITX developer board
and just pour clear acrylic over it to make a case. If every call that
goes in and out of your Asterisk box is on the same codec and your
voicemail is also recorded on that same codec than Asterisk just
switches the calls like a Pentium 100 linux router switches packets.

On 6/23/05, Wiley Siler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why everyone uses Epia only in mini-itx I still don't get since
> horsepower is pretty low for Epia once trans-coding starts...
> 
> I would think that Mini-ITX Pentium M is the way to go...
> http://www.ibase-i.com.tw/mb890.htm
> 
> Throw that in a mini-itx case and you get low power, low wattage high
> horsepower to boot...
> 
> Has anyone spent any time using Pentium M and *?
> That would seem a more logical path for black box solutions...
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> W
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On Thursday 23 Jun 2005 17:39, jltaylor wrote:
> > I've seen the embedded posts.
> > Is anyone running Asterisk on the MINI ITX?
> 
> Yes. 4BRI cards in 2 separate systems hosting 10 nodes.
> 
> 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx

2005-06-23 Thread Wiley Siler
Epia is sweet in that regards but Pentium M is 27 watts full blast and
as low as 5 watts as parts of the core shutdown.  You get horsepower as
well as low heat.

W


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EPIA means low heat, noise, and long run times along with a smaller
box. Personally I would shoot for the Transmeta ITX developer board
and just pour clear acrylic over it to make a case. If every call that
goes in and out of your Asterisk box is on the same codec and your
voicemail is also recorded on that same codec than Asterisk just
switches the calls like a Pentium 100 linux router switches packets.

On 6/23/05, Wiley Siler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why everyone uses Epia only in mini-itx I still don't get since
> horsepower is pretty low for Epia once trans-coding starts...
> 
> I would think that Mini-ITX Pentium M is the way to go...
> http://www.ibase-i.com.tw/mb890.htm
> 
> Throw that in a mini-itx case and you get low power, low wattage high
> horsepower to boot...
> 
> Has anyone spent any time using Pentium M and *?
> That would seem a more logical path for black box solutions...
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> W
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini itx
> 
> On Thursday 23 Jun 2005 17:39, jltaylor wrote:
> > I've seen the embedded posts.
> > Is anyone running Asterisk on the MINI ITX?
> 
> Yes. 4BRI cards in 2 separate systems hosting 10 nodes.
> 
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini-ITX suggestions

2004-01-02 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 12:34, Gary Gapinski wrote:
> Does anyone have recommendations for (or against) mini-ITX platforms to 
> be used with Wildcard X100P and TDM400P cards?
> 
> I am considering the use of systems using VIA EPIA CL and Epia M as 
> small, quiet platforms on which to host Asterisk.

It has been covered here before that those are i586 level chips, so be
prepared for the actual horsepower you will get out of them. If you
don't do much VoIP, it will probably be fine. I think there is even a
person or 2 here already using them as thats why we know about the i586
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] mini-ITX suggestions

2004-01-02 Thread Steven Sokol
I believe that the newer versions of the EPIA platform (those with the
"Nehemiah" version of the core) are actually i686 compliant.  There is
an article about EPIA & Linux at www.mini-itx.com that covers the
specifics of dealing with the older boards, including a review of
distros that are known to have issues.

I played with an older EPIA (the 900 MHz i586 version) and found it to
be weak in the VoIP department (given to hiccups, etc.) and effectively
useless with the X100P since it only has one attached PCI slot (although
it can be expanded to two using a riser card and some jumpers).

If you do go with a Mini ITX, I would highly recommend using the newer 1
GHz+ Nehemiah boards.

Just my .02

Steve

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> On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 12:34, Gary Gapinski wrote:
> > Does anyone have recommendations for (or against) mini-ITX platforms
to
> > be used with Wildcard X100P and TDM400P cards?
> >
> > I am considering the use of systems using VIA EPIA CL and Epia M as
> > small, quiet platforms on which to host Asterisk.
> 
> It has been covered here before that those are i586 level chips, so be
> prepared for the actual horsepower you will get out of them. If you
> don't do much VoIP, it will probably be fine. I think there is even a
> person or 2 here already using them as thats why we know about the
i586
> problem.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini-ITX suggestions

2004-01-02 Thread Patrick Cantwell


On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Steven Critchfield wrote:

> On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 12:34, Gary Gapinski wrote:
> > Does anyone have recommendations for (or against) mini-ITX platforms to
> > be used with Wildcard X100P and TDM400P cards?
> >
> > I am considering the use of systems using VIA EPIA CL and Epia M as
> > small, quiet platforms on which to host Asterisk.
>
> It has been covered here before that those are i586 level chips, so be
> prepared for the actual horsepower you will get out of them. If you
> don't do much VoIP, it will probably be fine. I think there is even a
> person or 2 here already using them as thats why we know about the i586
> problem.


What about the newer chip (the Nehemiah)? I have an 800mhz version of the
older system/core that's clearly i586 architecture doing some PVR stuff (I
have a tuner card with mpeg encoding builtin, so the lack of horsepower is
a non-issue), however I *believe* the newer Nehemiah core is i686
compatable.  I do know they've added hardware RNG, SSE/SIMD extensions,
and a full speed floating point unit to the processor. The motherboard
also has an updated north/south bridge, utilizing PC2100/DDR266 RAM, comes
with USB2.0 and firewire integrated, and moves from 1 ATA100 to 2 ATA133
channels.  It'd sure be a waste to couple all of that nice hardware to an
antiquated i586 chip. (and the best is a board+chip+case can be
accomplished for around $200USD)
Can anyone confirm if they've added what was necessary to bring the chip
up to the i686 level?

A brief overview of the new Nehemiah features can be seen at
http://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/nehemiah/?page=3#s05

I'll have one of these machines in hand probably early next week, so maybe
I can do some testing before I move it into the role of my new PVR (those
damn trans-encodes from mpeg to streamable formats take too darn long on
the 800! :)

-Pat



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini-ITX suggestions

2004-01-03 Thread Leo Ann Boon
We just got 1 Nehemiah in the office. Performance-wise it's pretty much 
a P3-class machine, IIRC the FPU is running at full clock speed compared 
to the 800MHz version. We do have problem booting a 686 optimized kernel 
on it. Can't install White Box Enterprise Linux (community distro based 
on RedHat Advance Server 3.0) but RH 8 works fine. The box we have takes 
2 PCI cards beautifully, but no * yet. I'd * running on the 800MHz box. 
It's works fine as long as you're not using too much floating point 
(i.e. avoid compression/decompression on the box). My setup had one 
XP101 connected to one 1 DG104S MGCP gateway and one BATM MGCP gateway. 
Works pretty well without MOH (MP3=FPU). MeetMe works fine. I'd an early 
TDM400 hooked up to it for a while, but gave up because of the massive 
amount of PSU noise. YMMV.

FYI.

Patrick Cantwell wrote:

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Steven Critchfield wrote:

 

On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 12:34, Gary Gapinski wrote:
   

Does anyone have recommendations for (or against) mini-ITX platforms to
be used with Wildcard X100P and TDM400P cards?
I am considering the use of systems using VIA EPIA CL and Epia M as
small, quiet platforms on which to host Asterisk.
 

It has been covered here before that those are i586 level chips, so be
prepared for the actual horsepower you will get out of them. If you
don't do much VoIP, it will probably be fine. I think there is even a
person or 2 here already using them as thats why we know about the i586
problem.
   



What about the newer chip (the Nehemiah)? I have an 800mhz version of the
older system/core that's clearly i586 architecture doing some PVR stuff (I
have a tuner card with mpeg encoding builtin, so the lack of horsepower is
a non-issue), however I *believe* the newer Nehemiah core is i686
compatable.  I do know they've added hardware RNG, SSE/SIMD extensions,
and a full speed floating point unit to the processor. The motherboard
also has an updated north/south bridge, utilizing PC2100/DDR266 RAM, comes
with USB2.0 and firewire integrated, and moves from 1 ATA100 to 2 ATA133
channels.  It'd sure be a waste to couple all of that nice hardware to an
antiquated i586 chip. (and the best is a board+chip+case can be
accomplished for around $200USD)
Can anyone confirm if they've added what was necessary to bring the chip
up to the i686 level?
A brief overview of the new Nehemiah features can be seen at
http://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/nehemiah/?page=3#s05
I'll have one of these machines in hand probably early next week, so maybe
I can do some testing before I move it into the role of my new PVR (those
damn trans-encodes from mpeg to streamable formats take too darn long on
the 800! :)
-Pat



 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] mini-ITX suggestions

2004-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+hardware+mini-itx

New Wiki page on mini-itx with Leo Anne's comment added to it.

Please help us collect experiences on Mini-itx configurations there.
Seems to be a lot of interest in this hardware.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-10 Thread Paul Hales

I have built several mini-itx via systems, and they work fine with
Asterisk.

We use one with a dual port E1 card in our office as our phone system.

PaulH

On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 00:47 +0100, Vincent Delporte wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Before I order a Travla C156 case 
> (http://206.14.132.88/products/Travla/c156/C156.html), a Via mini-ITX 
> motherboard (either the fanless ME6000 
> http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50&idproduct=4 or the 
> fan-equipped M1 
> http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50&idproduct=163 ) , 
> and a PCI FXO card from Digium or OpenVox... has someone already built that 
> kind of box, and could tell me if it's powerful enough to power a small PBX?
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-11 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Vincent Delporte wrote:


Hello

Before I order a Travla C156 case 
(http://206.14.132.88/products/Travla/c156/C156.html), a Via mini-ITX 
motherboard (either the fanless ME6000 
http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50&idproduct=4 or the 
fan-equipped M1 
http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50&idproduct=163 ) , and 
a PCI FXO card from Digium or OpenVox... has someone already built that kind 
of box, and could tell me if it's powerful enough to power a small PBX?


Check the processor spec. carefully. There are a few  variants of the VIA 
processor and some have 64KB of cache and other 128KB.


I've deployed several fanless CN1000 systems which have 128KB of cache, 
but my R&D system has an older (533MHz) processor with 64KB of cache. (All 
with TDM400 cards)


The thing that will kill these boards is transcoding.

Also make sure you compile asterisk for an i586 - the Via processors while 
looking like i686 are lacking some instructions that causes asterisk to 
code-dump at boot time.


I have some VIA EK processor systems, 1GHz, 64KB cache with a fan which I 
use as routers (2 on-board ethernet ports) and I've never been able to get 
the fan to run at any time other than boot time, so if the boards you're 
looking at have fans, I'd guess they were connected the same way and only 
came on when they got hot, but I'd still go fanless (& diskless) if 
possible.


Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-13 Thread Vincent Delporte

At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Gordon Henderson wrote:
Check the processor spec. carefully. [...] Also make sure you compile 
asterisk for an i586


OK, I'll make sure it has enough cache and I'll recompile the code myself. 
I'm thinking of getting an ML 8000 
http://via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=301 .


At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Manny A. Wise wrote:
I did, and I was NOT happy with the results... Mini-itx have a serious 
problems with IRQ sharing... I am happily using a embeded system now, but 
the FXO and FXS have to be external.


Those boards only come with one PCI slot. Do you mean it could share an IRQ 
with some embedded component like the video card?


BTW, in this age of big USB drive, I don't really nee a DVD/CDRW combo. 
Does someone know if the Via motherboards (at least the ML series) supports 
booting off a USB drive, so I can use this to start Linux and fetch install 
files from an FTP server?


Thank you.

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RE: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-13 Thread Michelle Dupuis
We use a lot of mini-itx pc's, including the pCI slot.  I don't think any of
the systems have shared an irq with the PCI slot

MD 

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Gordon Henderson wrote:
>Check the processor spec. carefully. [...] Also make sure you compile 
>asterisk for an i586

OK, I'll make sure it has enough cache and I'll recompile the code myself. 
I'm thinking of getting an ML 8000
http://via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=301
.

At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Manny A. Wise wrote:
>I did, and I was NOT happy with the results... Mini-itx have a serious 
>problems with IRQ sharing... I am happily using a embeded system now, 
>but the FXO and FXS have to be external.

Those boards only come with one PCI slot. Do you mean it could share an IRQ
with some embedded component like the video card?

BTW, in this age of big USB drive, I don't really nee a DVD/CDRW combo. 
Does someone know if the Via motherboards (at least the ML series) supports
booting off a USB drive, so I can use this to start Linux and fetch install
files from an FTP server?

Thank you.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-14 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Vincent Delporte wrote:


At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Gordon Henderson wrote:
Check the processor spec. carefully. [...] Also make sure you compile 
asterisk for an i586


OK, I'll make sure it has enough cache and I'll recompile the code myself. 
I'm thinking of getting an ML 8000 
http://via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=301 
.


At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Manny A. Wise wrote:
I did, and I was NOT happy with the results... Mini-itx have a serious 
problems with IRQ sharing... I am happily using a embeded system now, but 
the FXO and FXS have to be external.


Those boards only come with one PCI slot. Do you mean it could share an IRQ 
with some embedded component like the video card?


On the CN1000 boards I'm using, the PCI slot seems tobe locked to IRQ10.

The on-board USB hardware also seems to be wired to IRQ 10 )-:

Using the BIOS to "reserve" IRQ 10 caused the on-board USB hardware to 
move to IRQ5 on the old VIA 533MHz boards I use for R&D, but not on the 
new CN1000 boards. You'll need to experiment with this on the EX board...


So I disable the on-board USB device, and have a custom compiled kernel 
that doesn't include USB drivers.


However, on a test board, I did leave USB enabled with a kernel that 
supproted USB just to test - an - well - it "just works" - however I only 
planned to use USB to perform an upgrade, so the times it would be in-use 
would be so minimal as to (hopefully) not have an issue.


On an older 533MHz board:

$ cat /proc/interrupts
   CPU0
  0:   48124962  XT-PIC  timer
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  5:  0  XT-PIC  uhci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2
  7:  1  XT-PIC  acpi
  8:  4  XT-PIC  rtc
 11:  75120  XT-PIC  eth0
 12:   48084364  XT-PIC  wctdm
 14:   2763  XT-PIC  ide0
 15:   5373  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0
LOC:  0
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

$ /sbin/zttest
Opened pseudo zap interface, measuring accuracy...
...
--- Results after 42 passes ---
Best: 100.00 -- Worst: 99.987793 -- Average: 99.995350

BTW, in this age of big USB drive, I don't really nee a DVD/CDRW combo. Does 
someone know if the Via motherboards (at least the ML series) supports 
booting off a USB drive, so I can use this to start Linux and fetch install 
files from an FTP server?


I've not tried it (I boot them off a flash IDE device I create on a host 
system), but can't you just temporarily plug in a CD drive to do the 
install (onto a local IDE/SATA drive) then unplug it & put the lid back 
on? Thats how I build some of my servers... (Although the CD drive is an 
IDE drive these days for speed...)


Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-14 Thread Vincent Delporte

At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Michelle Dupuis Henderson wrote:
We use a lot of mini-itx pc's, including the pCI slot.  I don't think any 
of the systems have shared an irq with the PCI slot


Thanks for the tip. In that case, I have a couple of questions for you :-)

1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the Travla 
C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know if it fits? 
I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not accept a PCI 
card bigger than 17,52cm.


2. Can the Via motherboards boot from a USB drive, so I can install Linux 
from this and fetch the install files from an FTP server?


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RE: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-14 Thread Michelle Dupuis
I don't know that case - but I would suspect so.

Yes on booting from a USB drive/memory stick - we setup the same way.

MD

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At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Michelle Dupuis Henderson wrote:
>We use a lot of mini-itx pc's, including the pCI slot.  I don't think 
>any of the systems have shared an irq with the PCI slot

Thanks for the tip. In that case, I have a couple of questions for you :-)

1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the Travla
C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know if it fits? 
I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not accept a PCI card
bigger than 17,52cm.

2. Can the Via motherboards boot from a USB drive, so I can install Linux
from this and fetch the install files from an FTP server?

Thanks.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-14 Thread Vincent Delporte

At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Gordon Henderson wrote:
On the CN1000 boards I'm using, the PCI slot seems tobe locked to IRQ10. 
The on-board USB hardware also seems to be wired to IRQ 10 :-) Using the 
BIOS to "reserve" IRQ 10 caused the on-board USB hardware to  move to IRQ5 
on the old VIA 533MHz boards I use for R&D, but not on the  new CN1000 
boards. You'll need to experiment with this on the EX board...


Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'll probably get an ML8000, so hopefully 
the PCI board can have its own IRQ.


I've not tried it (I boot them off a flash IDE device I create on a 
host  system), but can't you just temporarily plug in a CD drive to do the 
install (onto a local IDE/SATA drive) then unplug it & put the lid back  on?


Right, I hadn't thought of this. Guess that solves the issue then. Looks 
like the only site that sells the Travla 138 is www.caseoutlet.com .


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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-14 Thread Leo Ann Boon




1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the 
Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know 
if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not 
accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm.

The C137 can fit 2 TDM400P with the right riser.

Leo

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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-14 Thread Vincent Delporte

At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Michelle Dupuis Henderson wrote:

Yes on booting from a USB drive/memory stick - we setup the same way.


Thanks for the tip.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-14 Thread Jean-Denis Girard

Vincent Delporte a écrit :

At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Michelle Dupuis Henderson wrote:
We use a lot of mini-itx pc's, including the pCI slot.  I don't think 
any of the systems have shared an irq with the PCI slot


Thanks for the tip. In that case, I have a couple of questions for you :-)

1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the 
Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know 
if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not 
accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm.


I'm using these cases for my Mini-TX projects:
http://www.emko.cz/emko_en/produkty/skrine/miniitx/em-141.html
A TDM400P fits nicely.



2. Can the Via motherboards boot from a USB drive, so I can install 
Linux from this and fetch the install files from an FTP server?


Yes, they also boot from USB CDROM, and directly from LAN (PXE).


Regards,
--
Jean-Denis Girard

SysNux  Systèmes Linux en Polynésie française
http://www.sysnux.pf/   Tél: +689 483 527 / GSM: +689 797 527
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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-15 Thread Karsten Wemheuer
Hello,

Am Donnerstag, den 15.02.2007, 10:55 +0800 schrieb Leo Ann Boon:
> >
> > 1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the 
> > Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know 
> > if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not 
> > accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm.
> The C137 can fit 2 TDM400P with the right riser.

If You are using the riser card, there will be shared interrupts. The
two slots of the riser card are using the same IRQ AFAIK.

Karsten

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Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?

2007-02-15 Thread Leo Ann Boon

Karsten Wemheuer wrote:

Hello,

Am Donnerstag, den 15.02.2007, 10:55 +0800 schrieb Leo Ann Boon:
  
1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the 
Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know 
if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not 
accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm.
  

The C137 can fit 2 TDM400P with the right riser.



If You are using the riser card, there will be shared interrupts. The
two slots of the riser card are using the same IRQ AFAIK.

  
You can get risers that don't share interrupts, need to ask the vendor. 
Yes, I did remember the first batch we got had shared interrupts.


Leo
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