RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
What is the outcome of this finding on f3000. goksie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Andrews Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 10:04 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones The F3000 is also a clamshell, flip type phone. I should be receiving an eval unit shortly and will post my findings after we work it over in the lab. Cory Andrews Senior Partner +++ VOIPSupply.com 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ voice - 716.630.1555 X22 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax - 716.630.1548 Luki wrote: UTStarCom has the F3000 coming in December, which will have according to their spec * WEP (64 and 128 bit )/WPA/MD5 Auth * Handover/Roaming between different AP and SSID So what else is different compared to the F1000? The 1000 also does WEP 64/128 and WPA with the newest firmware. Not sure about MD5 auth, but SIP nonce/MD5 response certainly is implemented. Roaming kind of works, but could be improved. In one place I made it from 4th floor - elevator - lobby while on the phone and without any noticeable dropouts (ulaw codec). But the building was covered with access points, on average NetStumbler saw 6 at the same time. So it works, but not always. Don't get me wrong, the phone does have issues and in my opinion is not production quality, meaning it will freak out unexpectedly and only a reboot helps, which hardly ever happens to any Sipura adapters or phones. Hopefully the new 3.6 firmware performs better. Luki ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
Goksie - I have found the F3000 works fine with Asterisk, however, the general release of this phone has been pushed back several times by UTStarcom. At present, we have none of these available. I might suggest the Linksys WIP300 as an alternative. Cory J Andrews VOIPSupply.com 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 ++ voice - 716.630.1555 X22 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - B2CORY - Original Message - From: ADEGOKE ARUNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:49 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones What is the outcome of this finding on f3000. goksie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Andrews Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 10:04 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones The F3000 is also a clamshell, flip type phone. I should be receiving an eval unit shortly and will post my findings after we work it over in the lab. Cory Andrews Senior Partner +++ VOIPSupply.com 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ voice - 716.630.1555 X22 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax - 716.630.1548 Luki wrote: UTStarCom has the F3000 coming in December, which will have according to their spec * WEP (64 and 128 bit )/WPA/MD5 Auth * Handover/Roaming between different AP and SSID So what else is different compared to the F1000? The 1000 also does WEP 64/128 and WPA with the newest firmware. Not sure about MD5 auth, but SIP nonce/MD5 response certainly is implemented. Roaming kind of works, but could be improved. In one place I made it from 4th floor - elevator - lobby while on the phone and without any noticeable dropouts (ulaw codec). But the building was covered with access points, on average NetStumbler saw 6 at the same time. So it works, but not always. Don't get me wrong, the phone does have issues and in my opinion is not production quality, meaning it will freak out unexpectedly and only a reboot helps, which hardly ever happens to any Sipura adapters or phones. Hopefully the new 3.6 firmware performs better. Luki ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
I'm curious if anything new has been determined on this phone? Is it SIP compatible with Asterisk and, say, Broadvoice? I'm a little wary that this may be vaporware. The phone doesn't seem to be listed by the FCC. But, I would preorder one if it's Asterisk and Broadvoice compatibile. Phil PS- Contact us form on the viopsupply site seems to be broken? Just spins for me. Cory Andrews wrote: The F3000 is also a clamshell, flip type phone. I should be receiving an eval unit shortly and will post my findings after we work it over in the lab. Cory Andrews Senior Partner +++ VOIPSupply.com 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ voice - 716.630.1555 X22 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax - 716.630.1548 Luki wrote: UTStarCom has the F3000 coming in December, which will have according to their spec * WEP (64 and 128 bit )/WPA/MD5 Auth * Handover/Roaming between different AP and SSID So what else is different compared to the F1000? The 1000 also does WEP 64/128 and WPA with the newest firmware. Not sure about MD5 auth, but SIP nonce/MD5 response certainly is implemented. Roaming kind of works, but could be improved. In one place I made it from 4th floor - elevator - lobby while on the phone and without any noticeable dropouts (ulaw codec). But the building was covered with access points, on average NetStumbler saw 6 at the same time. So it works, but not always. Don't get me wrong, the phone does have issues and in my opinion is not production quality, meaning it will freak out unexpectedly and only a reboot helps, which hardly ever happens to any Sipura adapters or phones. Hopefully the new 3.6 firmware performs better. Luki ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
-Original Message- From: Rich Adamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 9:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. My first thought was to use a cordless phone and a Sipura ATA. But this is a 100,000 sqft warehouse with a freezer section in the middle so the range isn't quite there. Next choice is WiFi phones. I have a corporate client that is in the food distribution business and they have approx 50 Symbol access points in their warehouse. They dispatch the fork lift operators by sending computer generated pick-lists via voice over 802.11g. The fork lift operators where some form of wireless receiver on their belt, and listen to the audio via an internal speaker. A little different then voip but same principle. They seem to like it. (I didn't engineer their system, so don't know anything more about it.) I still need to test these things but they look like they would be really cool. Especially with a headset and the fact that they operate on spoken words, both hands would remain free to work. If you try this please post a review on the list. http://www.vocera.com/products/products.shtm Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:15:29 -0500, Steve Totaro wrote: -Original Message- From: Rich Adamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 9:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. My first thought was to use a cordless phone and a Sipura ATA. But this is a 100,000 sqft warehouse with a freezer section in the middle so the range isn't quite there. Next choice is WiFi phones. I have a corporate client that is in the food distribution business and they have approx 50 Symbol access points in their warehouse. They dispatch the fork lift operators by sending computer generated pick-lists via voice over 802.11g. The fork lift operators where some form of wireless receiver on their belt, and listen to the audio via an internal speaker. A little different then voip but same principle. They seem to like it. (I didn't engineer their system, so don't know anything more about it.) I still need to test these things but they look like they would be really cool. Especially with a headset and the fact that they operate on spoken words, both hands would remain free to work. If you try this please post a review on the list. http://www.vocera.com/products/products.shtm I've seen these in use here in Houston at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancert Treatment Center. Admin staff all carry the badges instead of pages and cell phones, etc. The real magic is the back end server system that has a very major voice recognition capability. Without this the badges are useless. The voice recognitin scheme does not require user training so it's more evolved that the voice dialing schemes found in cell phones. Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. My first thought was to use a cordless phone and a Sipura ATA. But this is a 100,000 sqft warehouse with a freezer section in the middle so the range isn't quite there. Next choice is WiFi phones. I have a corporate client that is in the food distribution business and they have approx 50 Symbol access points in their warehouse. They dispatch the fork lift operators by sending computer generated pick-lists via voice over 802.11g. The fork lift operators where some form of wireless receiver on their belt, and listen to the audio via an internal speaker. A little different then voip but same principle. They seem to like it. (I didn't engineer their system, so don't know anything more about it.) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
UTStarCom has the F3000 coming in December, which will have according to their spec * WEP (64 and 128 bit )/WPA/MD5 Auth * Handover/Roaming between different AP and SSID So what else is different compared to the F1000? The 1000 also does WEP 64/128 and WPA with the newest firmware. Not sure about MD5 auth, but SIP nonce/MD5 response certainly is implemented. Roaming kind of works, but could be improved. In one place I made it from 4th floor - elevator - lobby while on the phone and without any noticeable dropouts (ulaw codec). But the building was covered with access points, on average NetStumbler saw 6 at the same time. So it works, but not always. Don't get me wrong, the phone does have issues and in my opinion is not production quality, meaning it will freak out unexpectedly and only a reboot helps, which hardly ever happens to any Sipura adapters or phones. Hopefully the new 3.6 firmware performs better. Luki ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
The F3000 is also a clamshell, flip type phone. I should be receiving an eval unit shortly and will post my findings after we work it over in the lab. Cory Andrews Senior Partner +++ VOIPSupply.com 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ voice - 716.630.1555 X22 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax - 716.630.1548 Luki wrote: UTStarCom has the F3000 coming in December, which will have according to their spec * WEP (64 and 128 bit )/WPA/MD5 Auth * Handover/Roaming between different AP and SSID So what else is different compared to the F1000? The 1000 also does WEP 64/128 and WPA with the newest firmware. Not sure about MD5 auth, but SIP nonce/MD5 response certainly is implemented. Roaming kind of works, but could be improved. In one place I made it from 4th floor - elevator - lobby while on the phone and without any noticeable dropouts (ulaw codec). But the building was covered with access points, on average NetStumbler saw 6 at the same time. So it works, but not always. Don't get me wrong, the phone does have issues and in my opinion is not production quality, meaning it will freak out unexpectedly and only a reboot helps, which hardly ever happens to any Sipura adapters or phones. Hopefully the new 3.6 firmware performs better. Luki ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
Well I am using a wifi phone running sip and works fine. Using commercial grade access point. With Prizim card. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Tillman Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:34 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones This is only slightly related to Asterisk (in that we are using Asterisk as our PBX), so feel free to contact me off-list. I need to hear from someone who has practical experience using the combo of Asterisk, WiFi, and WiFi VOIP phones like the Hitachi-Cable IPC-5000. In particular, I need to know if scattering consumer grade access points (Linksys, D-Link) throughout a warehouse is going to be satisfactory, or if we should use some kind of mesh access point from Orinoco or Strix. (In hopes of a better handoff.) Thanks, -dave ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:33:49 -0600, David Tillman wrote: This is only slightly related to Asterisk (in that we are using Asterisk as our PBX), so feel free to contact me off-list. I need to hear from someone who has practical experience using the combo of Asterisk, WiFi, and WiFi VOIP phones like the Hitachi-Cable IPC-5000. In particular, I need to know if scattering consumer grade access points (Linksys, D-Link) throughout a warehouse is going to be satisfactory, or if we should use some kind of mesh access point from Orinoco or Strix. (In hopes of a better handoff.) I tried using the consumer access points (Linksys WAP-54G) and had not end of troubles. Firstly, they all have to have the same SSID or not hand-off at all. Secondly, I found that the WLAN bandwidth would occasionally just go away for a few seconds, which caused calls to simply go silent for 3-4 seconds unexpectedly. Never long enough to drop the call...but enough to force me to ask the other person to repeat themselves. Lastly, the volume level presented by the WIP-5000 was never enough for my tastes. I found that the range around each access point was very limited. Bear in mind that consumer access points often don't put out the full allowable RF power. If you use third party firmware hacks to up the RF output you'll find that they start to through a lot of spurious interference as well. Not the best quality radios I guess. I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. Michael Graves -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
Depending on load, and this shouldnt be a problem with low call volume, wifi is half duplex, so you have to take that into account. I however use a ipaq h5500 with a softphone running and it works fine over wifi, while that isnt quite the equipment you requested info on, I do not have any problems at least with asterisk 1.0.7 and above On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 13:42 -0800, Diseyi Diffa wrote: Well I am using a wifi phone running sip and works fine. Using commercial grade access point. With Prizim card. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Tillman Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:34 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones This is only slightly related to Asterisk (in that we are using Asterisk as our PBX), so feel free to contact me off-list. I need to hear from someone who has practical experience using the combo of Asterisk, WiFi, and WiFi VOIP phones like the Hitachi-Cable IPC-5000. In particular, I need to know if scattering consumer grade access points (Linksys, D-Link) throughout a warehouse is going to be satisfactory, or if we should use some kind of mesh access point from Orinoco or Strix. (In hopes of a better handoff.) Thanks, -dave ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
On 11/23/05, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. My first thought was to use a cordless phone and a Sipura ATA. But this is a 100,000 sqft warehouse with a freezer section in the middle so the range isn't quite there. Next choice is WiFi phones. This should be interesting. -dave ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:57:25 -0600, David Tillman wrote: On 11/23/05, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. My first thought was to use a cordless phone and a Sipura ATA. But this is a 100,000 sqft warehouse with a freezer section in the middle so the range isn't quite there. Next choice is WiFi phones. This should be interesting. If a normal cordless phone isn't cutting it then you'll need a handfull of access points to make wifi functional. Perhaps you should try the Engenious high power corldess phones. I used to use those and they worked well. Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
I concur with Michael, the current crop of WIFI phones on the market do have their individual quirks, and you will likely encounter issues using consumer grade access points. If you have some money to throw at this, and want a real slick, industrial grade solution that will integrate with SIP, I would recommend you check out the Durafon 1X or Durafon 4X from Engenius. We have seen these implemented and SIP enabled using your garden variety ATA or FXS gateway. These are not WIFI phones, they use conventional Digital spread spectrum with frequency hopping, and have a very cool, full duplex 2 way radio function as well. The handsets are bulletproof as well, very rugged and well designed. These were designed for relatively extreme environments, and they work very well, but are not inexpensive. Cory J Andrews Partner / Purchasing +++ VOIPSupply.com - Everything you need for VOIP 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ tf voice - 800-398-VOIP X22 l voice - 716.630.1555 X22 f - 716.630.1548 e - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - b2Cory Michael Graves wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:33:49 -0600, David Tillman wrote: This is only slightly related to Asterisk (in that we are using Asterisk as our PBX), so feel free to contact me off-list. I need to hear from someone who has practical experience using the combo of Asterisk, WiFi, and WiFi VOIP phones like the Hitachi-Cable IPC-5000. In particular, I need to know if scattering consumer grade access points (Linksys, D-Link) throughout a warehouse is going to be satisfactory, or if we should use some kind of mesh access point from Orinoco or Strix. (In hopes of a better handoff.) I tried using the consumer access points (Linksys WAP-54G) and had not end of troubles. Firstly, they all have to have the same SSID or not hand-off at all. Secondly, I found that the WLAN bandwidth would occasionally just go away for a few seconds, which caused calls to simply go silent for 3-4 seconds unexpectedly. Never long enough to drop the call...but enough to force me to ask the other person to repeat themselves. Lastly, the volume level presented by the WIP-5000 was never enough for my tastes. I found that the range around each access point was very limited. Bear in mind that consumer access points often don't put out the full allowable RF power. If you use third party firmware hacks to up the RF output you'll find that they start to through a lot of spurious interference as well. Not the best quality radios I guess. I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. Michael Graves -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
You can try Zyxel Wifi phones They do the JOB cost bout 200 bucks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Andrews Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:06 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones I concur with Michael, the current crop of WIFI phones on the market do have their individual quirks, and you will likely encounter issues using consumer grade access points. If you have some money to throw at this, and want a real slick, industrial grade solution that will integrate with SIP, I would recommend you check out the Durafon 1X or Durafon 4X from Engenius. We have seen these implemented and SIP enabled using your garden variety ATA or FXS gateway. These are not WIFI phones, they use conventional Digital spread spectrum with frequency hopping, and have a very cool, full duplex 2 way radio function as well. The handsets are bulletproof as well, very rugged and well designed. These were designed for relatively extreme environments, and they work very well, but are not inexpensive. Cory J Andrews Partner / Purchasing +++ VOIPSupply.com - Everything you need for VOIP 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ tf voice - 800-398-VOIP X22 l voice - 716.630.1555 X22 f - 716.630.1548 e - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - b2Cory Michael Graves wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:33:49 -0600, David Tillman wrote: This is only slightly related to Asterisk (in that we are using Asterisk as our PBX), so feel free to contact me off-list. I need to hear from someone who has practical experience using the combo of Asterisk, WiFi, and WiFi VOIP phones like the Hitachi-Cable IPC-5000. In particular, I need to know if scattering consumer grade access points (Linksys, D-Link) throughout a warehouse is going to be satisfactory, or if we should use some kind of mesh access point from Orinoco or Strix. (In hopes of a better handoff.) I tried using the consumer access points (Linksys WAP-54G) and had not end of troubles. Firstly, they all have to have the same SSID or not hand-off at all. Secondly, I found that the WLAN bandwidth would occasionally just go away for a few seconds, which caused calls to simply go silent for 3-4 seconds unexpectedly. Never long enough to drop the call...but enough to force me to ask the other person to repeat themselves. Lastly, the volume level presented by the WIP-5000 was never enough for my tastes. I found that the range around each access point was very limited. Bear in mind that consumer access points often don't put out the full allowable RF power. If you use third party firmware hacks to up the RF output you'll find that they start to through a lot of spurious interference as well. Not the best quality radios I guess. I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. Michael Graves -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
FWIW, the cordless handsets on the Aastra 480i CT work well. I've waled about while on a call, to a distahce of approx 300 feet before the call quality started to suffer. The phone supports up to 8 (I think) handsets, treating each as a separate extension. It can page between handsets without involving Asterisk. It supports up to 9 line appearances, which means that all the cordless and the base units can be on a call at one time. The only thing that I hated about the Engenius phones was the fact that they didn't support a plain 2.5mm connector for a headset. The 480i CT is pretty awesome. Michael On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:05:48 -0500, Cory Andrews wrote: I concur with Michael, the current crop of WIFI phones on the market do have their individual quirks, and you will likely encounter issues using consumer grade access points. If you have some money to throw at this, and want a real slick, industrial grade solution that will integrate with SIP, I would recommend you check out the Durafon 1X or Durafon 4X from Engenius. We have seen these implemented and SIP enabled using your garden variety ATA or FXS gateway. These are not WIFI phones, they use conventional Digital spread spectrum with frequency hopping, and have a very cool, full duplex 2 way radio function as well. The handsets are bulletproof as well, very rugged and well designed. These were designed for relatively extreme environments, and they work very well, but are not inexpensive. Cory J Andrews Partner / Purchasing +++ VOIPSupply.com - Everything you need for VOIP 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ tf voice - 800-398-VOIP X22 l voice - 716.630.1555 X22 f - 716.630.1548 e - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - b2Cory Michael Graves wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:33:49 -0600, David Tillman wrote: This is only slightly related to Asterisk (in that we are using Asterisk as our PBX), so feel free to contact me off-list. I need to hear from someone who has practical experience using the combo of Asterisk, WiFi, and WiFi VOIP phones like the Hitachi-Cable IPC-5000. In particular, I need to know if scattering consumer grade access points (Linksys, D-Link) throughout a warehouse is going to be satisfactory, or if we should use some kind of mesh access point from Orinoco or Strix. (In hopes of a better handoff.) I tried using the consumer access points (Linksys WAP-54G) and had not end of troubles. Firstly, they all have to have the same SSID or not hand-off at all. Secondly, I found that the WLAN bandwidth would occasionally just go away for a few seconds, which caused calls to simply go silent for 3-4 seconds unexpectedly. Never long enough to drop the call...but enough to force me to ask the other person to repeat themselves. Lastly, the volume level presented by the WIP-5000 was never enough for my tastes. I found that the range around each access point was very limited. Bear in mind that consumer access points often don't put out the full allowable RF power. If you use third party firmware hacks to up the RF output you'll find that they start to through a lot of spurious interference as well. Not the best quality radios I guess. I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. Michael Graves -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
Yeah the 480i-CT is a nice product, and not subject to the inconsistencies of WIFI. What impressed me about the Engenius handsets was the range. 250,000 square feet coverage, or 3,000 acre coverage in an outdoor application, off a single radio AP, that's a large footprint. Cory J Andrews Partner / Purchasing +++ VOIPSupply.com - Everything you need for VOIP 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ tf voice - 800-398-VOIP X22 l voice - 716.630.1555 X22 f - 716.630.1548 e - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - b2Cory Michael Graves wrote: FWIW, the cordless handsets on the Aastra 480i CT work well. I've waled about while on a call, to a distahce of approx 300 feet before the call quality started to suffer. The phone supports up to 8 (I think) handsets, treating each as a separate extension. It can page between handsets without involving Asterisk. It supports up to 9 line appearances, which means that all the cordless and the base units can be on a call at one time. The only thing that I hated about the Engenius phones was the fact that they didn't support a plain 2.5mm connector for a headset. The 480i CT is pretty awesome. Michael On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:05:48 -0500, Cory Andrews wrote: I concur with Michael, the current crop of WIFI phones on the market do have their individual quirks, and you will likely encounter issues using consumer grade access points. If you have some money to throw at this, and want a real slick, industrial grade solution that will integrate with SIP, I would recommend you check out the Durafon 1X or Durafon 4X from Engenius. We have seen these implemented and SIP enabled using your garden variety ATA or FXS gateway. These are not WIFI phones, they use conventional Digital spread spectrum with frequency hopping, and have a very cool, full duplex 2 way radio function as well. The handsets are bulletproof as well, very rugged and well designed. These were designed for relatively extreme environments, and they work very well, but are not inexpensive. Cory J Andrews Partner / Purchasing +++ VOIPSupply.com - Everything you need for VOIP 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ tf voice - 800-398-VOIP X22 l voice - 716.630.1555 X22 f - 716.630.1548 e - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - b2Cory Michael Graves wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:33:49 -0600, David Tillman wrote: This is only slightly related to Asterisk (in that we are using Asterisk as our PBX), so feel free to contact me off-list. I need to hear from someone who has practical experience using the combo of Asterisk, WiFi, and WiFi VOIP phones like the Hitachi-Cable IPC-5000. In particular, I need to know if scattering consumer grade access points (Linksys, D-Link) throughout a warehouse is going to be satisfactory, or if we should use some kind of mesh access point from Orinoco or Strix. (In hopes of a better handoff.) I tried using the consumer access points (Linksys WAP-54G) and had not end of troubles. Firstly, they all have to have the same SSID or not hand-off at all. Secondly, I found that the WLAN bandwidth would occasionally just go away for a few seconds, which caused calls to simply go silent for 3-4 seconds unexpectedly. Never long enough to drop the call...but enough to force me to ask the other person to repeat themselves. Lastly, the volume level presented by the WIP-5000 was never enough for my tastes. I found that the range around each access point was very limited. Bear in mind that consumer access points often don't put out the full allowable RF power. If you use third party firmware hacks to up the RF output you'll find that they start to through a lot of spurious interference as well. Not the best quality radios I guess. I eventually switched to using a Astra 480i CT desk phone with a couple of corless handsets. It's been great. Michael Graves -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 fwd 54245 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc.
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
Thank you to everyone for the input. It may be to our advantage to install a Wi-Fi mesh with handoff as we will eventually put data-terminals on our fork-trucks. In the meantime, we have warehouse managers carrying cell phones for comms to the office. I'm going to drop five Snom or Grandstream phones around the warehoue which will help some. I think trying to use the WiFi VOIP without robust handover will be a mistake as the users will always be walking around the warehouse or riding a forktruck. Thanks, -dave ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk + WiFi Phones
David - the 2nd generation crop of WLAN handsets will start coming to market shortly, and vendors are promising improvements. UTStarCom has the F3000 coming in December, which will have according to their spec * WEP (64 and 128 bit )/WPA/MD5 Auth * Handover/Roaming between different AP and SSID There is also 802.11n on the horizon, which promises a four-fold improvement in performance over current 802.11g. Cory J Andrews Partner / Purchasing +++ VOIPSupply.com - Everything you need for VOIP 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ tf voice - 800-398-VOIP X22 l voice - 716.630.1555 X22 f - 716.630.1548 e - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - b2Cory David Tillman wrote: Thank you to everyone for the input. It may be to our advantage to install a Wi-Fi mesh with handoff as we will eventually put data-terminals on our fork-trucks. In the meantime, we have warehouse managers carrying cell phones for comms to the office. I'm going to drop five Snom or Grandstream phones around the warehoue which will help some. I think trying to use the WiFi VOIP without robust handover will be a mistake as the users will always be walking around the warehouse or riding a forktruck. Thanks, -dave ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
