Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
On Friday 22 October 2004 02:05 pm, Neil Cherry wrote: David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). Hmmm. In my opinion DHCP is mostly a false time saver anyway. It's true you can just plug in a host and have it get an ip nice and easily. But I prefer to know who's IP is on the wire with a minimum of fuss. I like to be able to notice that nnn is being involved far too often in that XYZ problem, or whatever. Plus it's one less service to maintain. Whenever I add a host I spend a little more time with configuring it but that's better than chasing leases as far as I'm concerned. Eases LAN maintenance a lot. True, as an ISP I would use DHCP. It's quite suitable there as I would have more limited resources. But on a LAN it's hard to run out of IP's. It's kind of how windows got popular, thanks to the apparent easier way of doing things, and how lazy we all seem to be. Anyway, this is on th edge of the topic so I'll stop here. -- Steve Szmidt They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
So in keeping with the topic, the GS phones work well with the Asterisk system? Should I get a GS phone or is there another phone that I should consider? Since this is for my home rather than a company, I just want something that will work with little fuss. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve szmidt Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream On Friday 22 October 2004 02:05 pm, Neil Cherry wrote: David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). Hmmm. In my opinion DHCP is mostly a false time saver anyway. It's true you can just plug in a host and have it get an ip nice and easily. But I prefer to know who's IP is on the wire with a minimum of fuss. I like to be able to notice that nnn is being involved far too often in that XYZ problem, or whatever. Plus it's one less service to maintain. Whenever I add a host I spend a little more time with configuring it but that's better than chasing leases as far as I'm concerned. Eases LAN maintenance a lot. True, as an ISP I would use DHCP. It's quite suitable there as I would have more limited resources. But on a LAN it's hard to run out of IP's. It's kind of how windows got popular, thanks to the apparent easier way of doing things, and how lazy we all seem to be. Anyway, this is on th edge of the topic so I'll stop here. -- Steve Szmidt They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
GS is fine for that -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ishmael Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 5:49 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream So in keeping with the topic, the GS phones work well with the Asterisk system? Should I get a GS phone or is there another phone that I should consider? Since this is for my home rather than a company, I just want something that will work with little fuss. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve szmidt Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream On Friday 22 October 2004 02:05 pm, Neil Cherry wrote: David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). Hmmm. In my opinion DHCP is mostly a false time saver anyway. It's true you can just plug in a host and have it get an ip nice and easily. But I prefer to know who's IP is on the wire with a minimum of fuss. I like to be able to notice that nnn is being involved far too often in that XYZ problem, or whatever. Plus it's one less service to maintain. Whenever I add a host I spend a little more time with configuring it but that's better than chasing leases as far as I'm concerned. Eases LAN maintenance a lot. True, as an ISP I would use DHCP. It's quite suitable there as I would have more limited resources. But on a LAN it's hard to run out of IP's. It's kind of how windows got popular, thanks to the apparent easier way of doing things, and how lazy we all seem to be. Anyway, this is on th edge of the topic so I'll stop here. -- Steve Szmidt They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
I was considering a GS phone (102 or 102D), what version of the GS are you using? Do all GS phones have issues with DHCP? I use DHCP on my network so I want to make sure I understand potential issues before making any purchases. Also, does anyone know of any wireless SIP phones? Asterisk/VoIP Newbie, -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen R. Besch Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:36 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream Michael George wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Stephen R. Besch wrote: I have never been able to get the Grandstream to register reliably - with any version of the firmware. So you mean you don't use the Grandstreams, then? On the contrary, I use almost nothing but GS phones. As long as I avoid DHCP and don't use the periodic registration function, they are 100% reliable. I have 23 of them, and with the exception of reboots after power outages or when updating firmware, I have had virtually no serious problems with them. In the early days (that is 6 months back) the call waiting tone was obnoxiously loud. However that was fixed some time ago. Since then, I have been quite satisfied with them, especially considering the cost. Stephen R. Besch ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
David Ishmael wrote:
I was considering a GS phone (102 or 102D), what version of the GS are you
using? Do all GS phones have issues with DHCP? I use DHCP on my network so
I want to make sure I understand potential issues before making any
purchases.
I have my GS101 working with DHCP, I setup my dhcp server to give
out the same address each time. Like this
host bt101a {
hardware ethernet 00:0b:82:xx:xx:xx;
fixed-address 192.168.2.192;
option routers 192.168.2.254;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.2.10;
option domain-name uucp ;
option log-servers 192.168.2.10 ;
# option time-servers192.168.2.10 ;
option time-offset -18000; # Eastern Standard Time
always-reply-rfc1048 true ;
}
I never could get my time server to work with the GS.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a
device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an
address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the
problem is with the address changing?
-Dave
-Original Message-
From: Neil Cherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
David Ishmael wrote:
I was considering a GS phone (102 or 102D), what version of the GS are you
using? Do all GS phones have issues with DHCP? I use DHCP on my network
so
I want to make sure I understand potential issues before making any
purchases.
I have my GS101 working with DHCP, I setup my dhcp server to give
out the same address each time. Like this
host bt101a {
hardware ethernet 00:0b:82:xx:xx:xx;
fixed-address 192.168.2.192;
option routers 192.168.2.254;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.2.10;
option domain-name uucp ;
option log-servers 192.168.2.10 ;
# option time-servers192.168.2.10 ;
option time-offset -18000; # Eastern Standard Time
always-reply-rfc1048 true ;
}
I never could get my time server to work with the GS.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) http://linuxha.blogspot.com/My HA Blog ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
Since this is for my home network, I suspect I can just assign an IP to the one or two GS phones to error on the safe side. Of the GS users, is there any difference between the GS 102 and 102D? -Dave -Original Message- From: Neil Cherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) http://linuxha.blogspot.com/My HA Blog ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 10:35 -0400, Stephen R. Besch wrote: On the contrary, I use almost nothing but GS phones. As long as I avoid DHCP and don't use the periodic registration function, they are 100% reliable. I have 23 of them, and with the exception of reboots after power outages or when updating firmware, I have had virtually no serious problems with them. In the early days (that is 6 months back) the call waiting tone was obnoxiously loud. However that was fixed some time ago. Since then, I have been quite satisfied with them, especially considering the cost. I've got another dozen with no problems and I do use DHCP. -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Stephen R. Besch wrote: I have never been able to get the Grandstream to register reliably - with any version of the firmware. So you mean you don't use the Grandstreams, then? It sounds like in your test with the fixed IP, you left the registration option on the phone set to yes. With a fixed IP and host=IP address, I am pretty sure that you must turn off registration on the phone. Yes, I did that at first, but then I turned it off and reset the phone. I might try it again, though. It's useless anyway with fixed IP and just reduces reliability (as you have discovered the hard way). Asterisk periodically sends polling packets to the phone, so it will know when it is reachable and when it is not. And, the phone will still authenticate against the password, so this should not lower security at all. Yes, the phone is fine for outgoing calls, but we need incoming... I think it's in one of those polling attempts that the phone stops responding. I may or may not get an answer from it and I cannot call it. :( Thanks for your reply! -- -M There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who can count in binary and those who cannot. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
