Re: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

2004-09-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:26:58AM -0700, Paul Mahler wrote:
 The Mepis Debian distro is pre-configured for *, www.mepis.org  They spent a
 lot of time making Mepis work with * out of the box. 

In what ways (comparing to the Debian packages)?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

2004-09-05 Thread Duane
Paul Mahler wrote:
The Mepis Debian distro is pre-configured for *, www.mepis.org  They spent a
lot of time making Mepis work with * out of the box. 
Erm the only issue with debian is they would have to do is mess with the
kernel module packages for digium hardware, even then it's not very
hard, then again if you grab a couple of external sip devices and a
voip-pstn provider you don't even need to do that...
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

2004-09-03 Thread Paul Mahler
The Mepis Debian distro is pre-configured for *, www.mepis.org  They spent a
lot of time making Mepis work with * out of the box. 

Everyone has their own very strong opinions on which distro is better. I'm
not about to get into that. All I can say is Mepis is probably your fastest
easiest way to get * running. You can get Linux installed and * running VERY
quickly if you start with Mepis. 

Hope this helps,

Paul


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Tzafrir Cohen
 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:07 AM
 To: Asterisk Users List
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?
 
 Hi
 
 I want to play a bit with Asterisk. I currentlly install a 
 new system for that and I would like to get your 
 recommendations regarding the linux distro to use there.
 
 This is NOT intended to become a general distro flame war. My 
 favorite distro is  and no argument that you flame 
 will convince me here (probably because I've heard it before).
 
 However I would like to minimize the OS maintinance task. I 
 really wouldn't like to start worrying about upgrading sshd 
 due to some stupid secuirty hole, and to worry what will it 
 break on my system. I expect my distro to do that for me. 
 
 I'd also like to have solid astrisk packages that won't break 
 unnecessarily when the sshd package is updated next time. 
 Hopefully also some sort of integration of zaptel in the 
 distro's kernel package.
 
 I saw numerous complaints about unofficial RPM packages of asterisk.
 Besides them, the following free distros include asterisk packages:
 
 1. Debian: http://packages.debian.org/asterisk . 
 2. Gentoo: Current package seems to be version 0.9.0 from 
 10-May-2004 3. The DAG repository for RH/Fedora:
http://dag.wieers.com/packages/asterisk/
 
 I have some experince with Debian, Mandrake and 
 RedHat/Fedora. I'm unfamiliar with Gentoo and I have no 
 good/bad experince with DAG packages with respect to quality 
 and stability.
 
 Any recommendations, relevant experince and other learned opinions?
 
 thx
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

2004-09-03 Thread Mike Chapman
Are the test versions configured for * out of the box?

Mike C.

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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

The Mepis Debian distro is pre-configured for *, www.mepis.org  They spent a
lot of time making Mepis work with * out of the box. 

Everyone has their own very strong opinions on which distro is better. I'm
not about to get into that. All I can say is Mepis is probably your fastest
easiest way to get * running. You can get Linux installed and * running VERY
quickly if you start with Mepis. 

Hope this helps,

Paul


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Tzafrir Cohen
 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:07 AM
 To: Asterisk Users List
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?
 
 Hi
 
 I want to play a bit with Asterisk. I currentlly install a 
 new system for that and I would like to get your 
 recommendations regarding the linux distro to use there.
 
 This is NOT intended to become a general distro flame war. My 
 favorite distro is  and no argument that you flame 
 will convince me here (probably because I've heard it before).
 
 However I would like to minimize the OS maintinance task. I 
 really wouldn't like to start worrying about upgrading sshd 
 due to some stupid secuirty hole, and to worry what will it 
 break on my system. I expect my distro to do that for me. 
 
 I'd also like to have solid astrisk packages that won't break 
 unnecessarily when the sshd package is updated next time. 
 Hopefully also some sort of integration of zaptel in the 
 distro's kernel package.
 
 I saw numerous complaints about unofficial RPM packages of asterisk.
 Besides them, the following free distros include asterisk packages:
 
 1. Debian: http://packages.debian.org/asterisk . 
 2. Gentoo: Current package seems to be version 0.9.0 from 
 10-May-2004 3. The DAG repository for RH/Fedora:
http://dag.wieers.com/packages/asterisk/
 
 I have some experince with Debian, Mandrake and 
 RedHat/Fedora. I'm unfamiliar with Gentoo and I have no 
 good/bad experince with DAG packages with respect to quality 
 and stability.
 
 Any recommendations, relevant experince and other learned opinions?
 
 thx
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

2004-08-31 Thread Deon Rodden
We discussed this earlier and I believe the general consensus was that 
it's personal choice. I've personally used Asterisk on Redhat 9.0, 
Fedora Core 1 and Gentoo 2004.2

Each has required some minor securing and cleaning up, but Redhat/Fedora 
tended to need more babying as far as securing default configs and 
speeding up certain things. But after a little bit of time with it, I 
had it running efficient and Asterisk loved it. The main problem I found 
with Redhat/Fedora was the default kernel, the sources are all messed up 
and the zaptel/libpri drivers didn't compile quite right. I simply 
downloaded the latest kernel, compiled it (and set it to my specific 
hardware to conserve memory) and libpri/zaptel compiled fine.

Personally I'm now using Gentoo. What I did with Gentoo was emerge 
asterisk-0.9.0 or whatever, and it handled all the dependencies for 
more. When I was done with that, I did a emerge cvs and once I had cvs 
I downloaded, compiled and upgraded to the latest 
libpri/zaptel/asterisk, just did a make upgrade. Gentoo tends to be a 
faster OS and more efficient with resources, it gives you bare minimum. 
Which sometimes is good, for security and such, but also a pain when it 
comes to standard interaction. ie by default they don't include ftp or 
telnet and traceroute just commands I'm used to having, nothing I 
can't emerge though.

In the end, it's personal choice. For now I've gone with Gentoo. 
Asterisk really isn't that resource intensive, it seems to like memory a 
lot, but other than that I don't see it putting heavy loads on my 
systems, and the speed difference between two identical machines, one 
with with Fedora Core 1 and one with Gentoo, is almost imperceivable 
when it comes to working with Asterisk, (ie, the IVR and playback of 
messages, and interacting with the voicemail system, etc.).

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Hi
I want to play a bit with Asterisk. I currentlly install a new system
for that and I would like to get your recommendations regarding the
linux distro to use there.
This is NOT intended to become a general distro flame war. My favorite
distro is  and no argument that you flame will convince me here
(probably because I've heard it before).
However I would like to minimize the OS maintinance task. I really
wouldn't like to start worrying about upgrading sshd due to some stupid
secuirty hole, and to worry what will it break on my system. I expect my
distro to do that for me. 

I'd also like to have solid astrisk packages that won't break
unnecessarily when the sshd package is updated next time. Hopefully also
some sort of integration of zaptel in the distro's kernel package.
I saw numerous complaints about unofficial RPM packages of asterisk.
Besides them, the following free distros include asterisk packages:
1. Debian: http://packages.debian.org/asterisk . 
2. Gentoo: Current package seems to be version 0.9.0 from 10-May-2004
3. The DAG repository for RH/Fedora:
  http://dag.wieers.com/packages/asterisk/

I have some experince with Debian, Mandrake and RedHat/Fedora. I'm
unfamiliar with Gentoo and I have no good/bad experince with DAG
packages with respect to quality and stability.
Any recommendations, relevant experince and other learned opinions?
thx
 

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

2004-08-31 Thread Tim Jackson
I'm using it on Debian Stable (Woody), works great, using it with the
backports.org 2.6.7-1-686-smp kernel, zaptel drivers compile fine with
their headers. I think it's all a matter of personal preference. I
prefer Debian, so I use it, use whatever you like best :)

-Tim

-Original Message-
From: Deon Rodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:23 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

We discussed this earlier and I believe the general consensus was that 
it's personal choice. I've personally used Asterisk on Redhat 9.0, 
Fedora Core 1 and Gentoo 2004.2

Each has required some minor securing and cleaning up, but Redhat/Fedora

tended to need more babying as far as securing default configs and 
speeding up certain things. But after a little bit of time with it, I 
had it running efficient and Asterisk loved it. The main problem I found

with Redhat/Fedora was the default kernel, the sources are all messed up

and the zaptel/libpri drivers didn't compile quite right. I simply 
downloaded the latest kernel, compiled it (and set it to my specific 
hardware to conserve memory) and libpri/zaptel compiled fine.

Personally I'm now using Gentoo. What I did with Gentoo was emerge 
asterisk-0.9.0 or whatever, and it handled all the dependencies for 
more. When I was done with that, I did a emerge cvs and once I had cvs

I downloaded, compiled and upgraded to the latest 
libpri/zaptel/asterisk, just did a make upgrade. Gentoo tends to be a 
faster OS and more efficient with resources, it gives you bare minimum. 
Which sometimes is good, for security and such, but also a pain when it 
comes to standard interaction. ie by default they don't include ftp or

telnet and traceroute just commands I'm used to having, nothing I 
can't emerge though.

In the end, it's personal choice. For now I've gone with Gentoo. 
Asterisk really isn't that resource intensive, it seems to like memory a

lot, but other than that I don't see it putting heavy loads on my 
systems, and the speed difference between two identical machines, one 
with with Fedora Core 1 and one with Gentoo, is almost imperceivable 
when it comes to working with Asterisk, (ie, the IVR and playback of 
messages, and interacting with the voicemail system, etc.).

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

Hi

I want to play a bit with Asterisk. I currentlly install a new system
for that and I would like to get your recommendations regarding the
linux distro to use there.

This is NOT intended to become a general distro flame war. My favorite
distro is  and no argument that you flame will convince me here
(probably because I've heard it before).

However I would like to minimize the OS maintinance task. I really
wouldn't like to start worrying about upgrading sshd due to some stupid
secuirty hole, and to worry what will it break on my system. I expect
my
distro to do that for me. 

I'd also like to have solid astrisk packages that won't break
unnecessarily when the sshd package is updated next time. Hopefully
also
some sort of integration of zaptel in the distro's kernel package.

I saw numerous complaints about unofficial RPM packages of asterisk.
Besides them, the following free distros include asterisk packages:

1. Debian: http://packages.debian.org/asterisk . 
2. Gentoo: Current package seems to be version 0.9.0 from 10-May-2004
3. The DAG repository for RH/Fedora:
   http://dag.wieers.com/packages/asterisk/

I have some experince with Debian, Mandrake and RedHat/Fedora. I'm
unfamiliar with Gentoo and I have no good/bad experince with DAG
packages with respect to quality and stability.

Any recommendations, relevant experince and other learned opinions?

thx

  

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

2004-08-31 Thread Huddleston, Robert
I've been having troubles compiling in the openh323 on both redhat and
debian... one of the biggest problems I had w/ Debian is it couldn't find
alot of libraries like termcap etc...
Has anyone else ran into these problems?

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From: Tim Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:31 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?


I'm using it on Debian Stable (Woody), works great, using it with the
backports.org 2.6.7-1-686-smp kernel, zaptel drivers compile fine with
their headers. I think it's all a matter of personal preference. I
prefer Debian, so I use it, use whatever you like best :)

-Tim

-Original Message-
From: Deon Rodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:23 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

We discussed this earlier and I believe the general consensus was that 
it's personal choice. I've personally used Asterisk on Redhat 9.0, 
Fedora Core 1 and Gentoo 2004.2

Each has required some minor securing and cleaning up, but Redhat/Fedora

tended to need more babying as far as securing default configs and 
speeding up certain things. But after a little bit of time with it, I 
had it running efficient and Asterisk loved it. The main problem I found

with Redhat/Fedora was the default kernel, the sources are all messed up

and the zaptel/libpri drivers didn't compile quite right. I simply 
downloaded the latest kernel, compiled it (and set it to my specific 
hardware to conserve memory) and libpri/zaptel compiled fine.

Personally I'm now using Gentoo. What I did with Gentoo was emerge 
asterisk-0.9.0 or whatever, and it handled all the dependencies for 
more. When I was done with that, I did a emerge cvs and once I had cvs

I downloaded, compiled and upgraded to the latest 
libpri/zaptel/asterisk, just did a make upgrade. Gentoo tends to be a 
faster OS and more efficient with resources, it gives you bare minimum. 
Which sometimes is good, for security and such, but also a pain when it 
comes to standard interaction. ie by default they don't include ftp or

telnet and traceroute just commands I'm used to having, nothing I 
can't emerge though.

In the end, it's personal choice. For now I've gone with Gentoo. 
Asterisk really isn't that resource intensive, it seems to like memory a

lot, but other than that I don't see it putting heavy loads on my 
systems, and the speed difference between two identical machines, one 
with with Fedora Core 1 and one with Gentoo, is almost imperceivable 
when it comes to working with Asterisk, (ie, the IVR and playback of 
messages, and interacting with the voicemail system, etc.).

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

Hi

I want to play a bit with Asterisk. I currentlly install a new system
for that and I would like to get your recommendations regarding the
linux distro to use there.

This is NOT intended to become a general distro flame war. My favorite
distro is  and no argument that you flame will convince me here
(probably because I've heard it before).

However I would like to minimize the OS maintinance task. I really
wouldn't like to start worrying about upgrading sshd due to some stupid
secuirty hole, and to worry what will it break on my system. I expect
my
distro to do that for me. 

I'd also like to have solid astrisk packages that won't break
unnecessarily when the sshd package is updated next time. Hopefully
also
some sort of integration of zaptel in the distro's kernel package.

I saw numerous complaints about unofficial RPM packages of asterisk.
Besides them, the following free distros include asterisk packages:

1. Debian: http://packages.debian.org/asterisk . 
2. Gentoo: Current package seems to be version 0.9.0 from 10-May-2004
3. The DAG repository for RH/Fedora:
   http://dag.wieers.com/packages/asterisk/

I have some experince with Debian, Mandrake and RedHat/Fedora. I'm
unfamiliar with Gentoo and I have no good/bad experince with DAG
packages with respect to quality and stability.

Any recommendations, relevant experince and other learned opinions?

thx

  

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

2004-08-31 Thread Brian Wilkins
I had that problem, but apt-get install did the trick.

On Tuesday 31 August 2004 02:53 pm, Huddleston, Robert wrote:
 I've been having troubles compiling in the openh323 on both redhat and
 debian... one of the biggest problems I had w/ Debian is it couldn't find
 alot of libraries like termcap etc...
 Has anyone else ran into these problems?

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:31 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?


 I'm using it on Debian Stable (Woody), works great, using it with the
 backports.org 2.6.7-1-686-smp kernel, zaptel drivers compile fine with
 their headers. I think it's all a matter of personal preference. I
 prefer Debian, so I use it, use whatever you like best :)

 -Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: Deon Rodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:23 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

 We discussed this earlier and I believe the general consensus was that
 it's personal choice. I've personally used Asterisk on Redhat 9.0,
 Fedora Core 1 and Gentoo 2004.2

 Each has required some minor securing and cleaning up, but Redhat/Fedora

 tended to need more babying as far as securing default configs and
 speeding up certain things. But after a little bit of time with it, I
 had it running efficient and Asterisk loved it. The main problem I found

 with Redhat/Fedora was the default kernel, the sources are all messed up

 and the zaptel/libpri drivers didn't compile quite right. I simply
 downloaded the latest kernel, compiled it (and set it to my specific
 hardware to conserve memory) and libpri/zaptel compiled fine.

 Personally I'm now using Gentoo. What I did with Gentoo was emerge
 asterisk-0.9.0 or whatever, and it handled all the dependencies for
 more. When I was done with that, I did a emerge cvs and once I had cvs

 I downloaded, compiled and upgraded to the latest
 libpri/zaptel/asterisk, just did a make upgrade. Gentoo tends to be a
 faster OS and more efficient with resources, it gives you bare minimum.
 Which sometimes is good, for security and such, but also a pain when it
 comes to standard interaction. ie by default they don't include ftp or

 telnet and traceroute just commands I'm used to having, nothing I
 can't emerge though.

 In the end, it's personal choice. For now I've gone with Gentoo.
 Asterisk really isn't that resource intensive, it seems to like memory a

 lot, but other than that I don't see it putting heavy loads on my
 systems, and the speed difference between two identical machines, one
 with with Fedora Core 1 and one with Gentoo, is almost imperceivable
 when it comes to working with Asterisk, (ie, the IVR and playback of
 messages, and interacting with the voicemail system, etc.).

 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 Hi
 
 I want to play a bit with Asterisk. I currentlly install a new system
 for that and I would like to get your recommendations regarding the
 linux distro to use there.
 
 This is NOT intended to become a general distro flame war. My favorite
 distro is  and no argument that you flame will convince me here
 (probably because I've heard it before).
 
 However I would like to minimize the OS maintinance task. I really
 wouldn't like to start worrying about upgrading sshd due to some stupid
 secuirty hole, and to worry what will it break on my system. I expect

 my

 distro to do that for me.
 
 I'd also like to have solid astrisk packages that won't break
 unnecessarily when the sshd package is updated next time. Hopefully

 also

 some sort of integration of zaptel in the distro's kernel package.
 
 I saw numerous complaints about unofficial RPM packages of asterisk.
 Besides them, the following free distros include asterisk packages:
 
 1. Debian: http://packages.debian.org/asterisk .
 2. Gentoo: Current package seems to be version 0.9.0 from 10-May-2004
 3. The DAG repository for RH/Fedora:
http://dag.wieers.com/packages/asterisk/
 
 I have some experince with Debian, Mandrake and RedHat/Fedora. I'm
 unfamiliar with Gentoo and I have no good/bad experince with DAG
 packages with respect to quality and stability.
 
 Any recommendations, relevant experince and other learned opinions?
 
 thx

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] which distro for asterisk?

2004-08-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 11:02:30AM +, Brian Wilkins wrote:
 I had that problem, but apt-get install did the trick.

Not to mention apt-get source and apt-get build-dep if you need to patch
existing packages

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