Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-11-06 Thread Alec Davis
Have you tried Digital calls over the B410P, using DAHDI and B410P as
bri_net_ptmp?

See https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16151

Useful when a business is E1/T1 connected, but need a BRI connection to a
remote warehouse, without needing a dedicated BRI line.

Alec Davis
 

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

On 25/10/09 11:52 AM, Paul Hales wrote:

 I have used both misdn and dahdi_bri over the last year, and would 
 happy take dahdi if for no other reason that it's much easier to install.

 A patch is available to allow dahdi_bri to work with Asterisk 1.4, and 
 I have used that successfully.

Which brings me to another question - what does Digium recommend people use
on a 1.4 system with their b410p card these days?

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-11-05 Thread Matt Riddell
On 25/10/09 11:52 AM, Paul Hales wrote:

 I have used both misdn and dahdi_bri over the last year, and would happy
 take dahdi if for no other reason that it's much easier to install.

 A patch is available to allow dahdi_bri to work with Asterisk 1.4, and I
 have used that successfully.

Ooh really?  Where would I find that?

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-11-05 Thread Matt Riddell
On 25/10/09 11:52 AM, Paul Hales wrote:

 I have used both misdn and dahdi_bri over the last year, and would happy
 take dahdi if for no other reason that it's much easier to install.

 A patch is available to allow dahdi_bri to work with Asterisk 1.4, and I
 have used that successfully.

Which brings me to another question - what does Digium recommend people 
use on a 1.4 system with their b410p card these days?

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-10-26 Thread Olivier
2009/10/24 Darrick Hartman dhart...@djhsolutions.com

 Oliver,

 I have some comments, but am looking for a good answer to this as well.

 1).  2.6.27 kernels to include a version of mISDN v2.0.  It's not as up
 to date as the full version on the mISDN.org site.


that would be great if someone with inside knowledge could jump on this
thread and further explain the situation (differences between misdn versions
in 2.6.27 kernel and the one downloadable from misdn.org, 1.x and 2.x)


 2).  From my understanding chan_lcr is the preferred way to connect
 Asterisk to mISDN v2.0.  From what I've read it does require some form
 of the LCR software to function.  It was a whole level of added
 complexity that I didn't want to add to the AstLinux project (unless
 we're forced to do so to support mISDN in Asterisk 1.6+).


yes.
For me the main issue is, I may be wrong, I don't remember seeing any
evidence in this list of people using chan_lcr.


  From a project maintainer's point of view, having mISDN functionality
 in dahdi is a total win, provided that enough European ISDN hardware is
 supported.  A more interesting approach are these new ISDN cards that
 appear as a network interface to the system (using a Realtek chip I
 believe).  A few of the ISDN users who use AstLinux are starting to look
 at those cards.

 What we've decided to do at this point in the AstLinux project is to
 continue using mISDN v1 with Asterisk 1.4 releases.  We have not been
 successful in building chan_misdn against Asterisk 1.6 (but then again,
 we haven't tried very hard either since we're hoping for a better
 solution as mISDN v1 has more than it's share of issues).


I could successfully build yesterday misdn 1.1.9.1 with 1.6.2.0-rc3 but
didn't try it yet.


 Darrick

 Olivier wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I'm evaluating to possibility to use chan_misdn as a short term
  workaround, in case latest Dahdi is not stable enough for what we are
  planning to do (we wish to use Junghanns and Digium BRI hardware with
  Asterisk 1.6) .
  I've read www.mISDN.org http://www.mISDN.org but still have a couple
  of questions :
 
  1. Is correct that in a 2.6.27 (and up) enabled kernel, the embedded
  mISDN version is 2.X ?
  2. Is it correct that Asterisk MUST use chan-lcr to access this mISDN
  software or is it still possible to install mISDN 1.X to be able to use
  chan_misdn ?
  3. Am I correctly understanding README in Dahdi-linux when I think you
  can switch Digium B410P support from dahdi to chan_misdn, just editing
  /etc/dahdi/modules file ?
  4. Would you trust chan_misdn as a valuable short term solution for ISDN
  BRI with Asterisk 1.6 ?
 
  Regards
 
 
  
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-10-26 Thread Jean-Denis Girard
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Olivier a écrit :
|
|
| 2009/10/24 Jean-Denis Girard jd.gir...@sysnux.pf
| mailto:jd.gir...@sysnux.pf
|
| Olivier a écrit :
| | Hello,
| |
| | I'm evaluating to possibility to use chan_misdn as a short term
| | workaround, in case latest Dahdi is not stable enough for what we are
| | planning to do (we wish to use Junghanns and Digium BRI hardware with
| | Asterisk 1.6) .
|
| Dahdi has been working fine for me for a few months, using a Junghanns
| DuoBRI and asterisk-1.6. I have used bristuff before, it usually worked
| fine, but separate patch. I also tried chan_misdn but quickly abandoned.
|
|
| Do you mean you abondoned chan_misdn (1.1.9-1) with 1.6.x on Junghanns
| hardware or are you thinking about another combination ?
|
| Did you change because revision-2822-enabled Dahdi ran successfully
| enough that you didn't need to further try with misdn or because you met
| bloking issues ?

Sorry if that my post was not clear. I'm using Dahdi because I'm happy
with it. It works and is simple to set up: it does not need any external
patch / software.

Before BRI support in Dahdi, I used BRIstuff, which worked fine, but
didn't follow Asterisk releases. And it was more work to set up.

I tried mISDN, but then I depended on specific kernel versions. I also
had echo problems. So I quickly abandoned mISDN.

The conclusion is that I'm very happy with BRI support in Dahdi. I've
been waiting for it, probably for more than 5 years !


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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-10-25 Thread Olivier
2009/10/24 Jean-Denis Girard jd.gir...@sysnux.pf

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 Olivier a écrit :
 | Hello,
 |
 | I'm evaluating to possibility to use chan_misdn as a short term
 | workaround, in case latest Dahdi is not stable enough for what we are
 | planning to do (we wish to use Junghanns and Digium BRI hardware with
 | Asterisk 1.6) .

 Dahdi has been working fine for me for a few months, using a Junghanns
 DuoBRI and asterisk-1.6. I have used bristuff before, it usually worked
 fine, but separate patch. I also tried chan_misdn but quickly abandoned.


Do you mean you abondoned chan_misdn (1.1.9-1) with 1.6.x on Junghanns
hardware or are you thinking about another combination ?

Did you change because revision-2822-enabled Dahdi ran successfully enough
that you didn't need to further try with misdn or because you met bloking
issues ?




 Regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-10-24 Thread Darrick Hartman
Oliver,

I have some comments, but am looking for a good answer to this as well.

1).  2.6.27 kernels to include a version of mISDN v2.0.  It's not as up 
to date as the full version on the mISDN.org site.

2).  From my understanding chan_lcr is the preferred way to connect 
Asterisk to mISDN v2.0.  From what I've read it does require some form 
of the LCR software to function.  It was a whole level of added 
complexity that I didn't want to add to the AstLinux project (unless 
we're forced to do so to support mISDN in Asterisk 1.6+).

 From a project maintainer's point of view, having mISDN functionality 
in dahdi is a total win, provided that enough European ISDN hardware is 
supported.  A more interesting approach are these new ISDN cards that 
appear as a network interface to the system (using a Realtek chip I 
believe).  A few of the ISDN users who use AstLinux are starting to look 
at those cards.

What we've decided to do at this point in the AstLinux project is to 
continue using mISDN v1 with Asterisk 1.4 releases.  We have not been 
successful in building chan_misdn against Asterisk 1.6 (but then again, 
we haven't tried very hard either since we're hoping for a better 
solution as mISDN v1 has more than it's share of issues).

Darrick

Olivier wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm evaluating to possibility to use chan_misdn as a short term 
 workaround, in case latest Dahdi is not stable enough for what we are 
 planning to do (we wish to use Junghanns and Digium BRI hardware with 
 Asterisk 1.6) .
 I've read www.mISDN.org http://www.mISDN.org but still have a couple 
 of questions :
 
 1. Is correct that in a 2.6.27 (and up) enabled kernel, the embedded 
 mISDN version is 2.X ?
 2. Is it correct that Asterisk MUST use chan-lcr to access this mISDN 
 software or is it still possible to install mISDN 1.X to be able to use 
 chan_misdn ?
 3. Am I correctly understanding README in Dahdi-linux when I think you 
 can switch Digium B410P support from dahdi to chan_misdn, just editing 
 /etc/dahdi/modules file ?
 4. Would you trust chan_misdn as a valuable short term solution for ISDN 
 BRI with Asterisk 1.6 ?
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-10-24 Thread Jean-Denis Girard
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Olivier a écrit :
| Hello,
|
| I'm evaluating to possibility to use chan_misdn as a short term
| workaround, in case latest Dahdi is not stable enough for what we are
| planning to do (we wish to use Junghanns and Digium BRI hardware with
| Asterisk 1.6) .

Dahdi has been working fine for me for a few months, using a Junghanns
DuoBRI and asterisk-1.6. I have used bristuff before, it usually worked
fine, but separate patch. I also tried chan_misdn but quickly abandoned.


Regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-10-24 Thread Paul Hales


I have used both misdn and dahdi_bri over the last year, and would happy 
take dahdi if for no other reason that it's much easier to install.


A patch is available to allow dahdi_bri to work with Asterisk 1.4, and I 
have used that successfully.


PaulH


On 25/10/09 03:26, Olivier wrote:

Hello,

I'm evaluating to possibility to use chan_misdn as a short term 
workaround, in case latest Dahdi is not stable enough for what we are 
planning to do (we wish to use Junghanns and Digium BRI hardware with 
Asterisk 1.6) .
I've read www.mISDN.org http://www.mISDN.org but still have a couple 
of questions :


1. Is correct that in a 2.6.27 (and up) enabled kernel, the embedded 
mISDN version is 2.X ?
2. Is it correct that Asterisk MUST use chan-lcr to access this mISDN 
software or is it still possible to install mISDN 1.X to be able to 
use chan_misdn ?
3. Am I correctly understanding README in Dahdi-linux when I think you 
can switch Digium B410P support from dahdi to chan_misdn, just editing 
/etc/dahdi/modules file ?
4. Would you trust chan_misdn as a valuable short term solution for 
ISDN BRI with Asterisk 1.6 ?


Regards


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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-10-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 11:13:49AM -1000, Jean-Denis Girard wrote:
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 Olivier a écrit :
 | Hello,
 |
 | I'm evaluating to possibility to use chan_misdn as a short term
 | workaround, in case latest Dahdi is not stable enough for what we are
 | planning to do (we wish to use Junghanns and Digium BRI hardware with
 | Asterisk 1.6) .
 
 Dahdi has been working fine for me for a few months, using a Junghanns
 DuoBRI and asterisk-1.6. I have used bristuff before, it usually worked
 fine, but separate patch. I also tried chan_misdn but quickly abandoned.

In dahdi-linux trunk those cards should be supported by the wcbrxxp
driver. Though I'd welcome more testing regarding those cards, as I
specifically suspect that LED handling there is incorrect.

Note that you have to use 'hardhdlc' rather than 'dchan' in
/etc/dahdi/system.conf .

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT - mISDN and B410P questions

2009-10-24 Thread Jean-Denis Girard
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Tzafrir Cohen a écrit :
| In dahdi-linux trunk those cards should be supported by the wcbrxxp
| driver. Though I'd welcome more testing regarding those cards, as I
| specifically suspect that LED handling there is incorrect.

I think you mean wcb4xxp:

dahdi_echocan_mg2   6336  2
wcb4xxp40036  3
dahdi 206704  10 dahdi_echocan_mg2,wcb4xxp

I confirm that LEDs are not working.

| Note that you have to use 'hardhdlc' rather than 'dchan' in
| /etc/dahdi/system.conf .

Right.


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