Re: [ath9k-devel] Significiant performance differences between ath5k and ath9k in 802.11a

2010-02-04 Thread Joerg Pommnitz
Luis,
with several people confirming the performance regression relative to 
AR5xxx/ath5k, can you tell us whether this will eventually be fixed? We are 
close to a purchase decision and would really like to upgrade to a recent chip 
set.
-- 
Regards
   Joerg


--- Felix Fietkau  schrieb am Fr, 29.1.2010:

> Von: Felix Fietkau 
> Betreff: Re: [ath9k-devel] Significiant performance differences between ath5k 
>  and ath9k in 802.11a
> An: "Joerg Pommnitz" 
> CC: rootki...@yahoo.it, linux-wirel...@vger.kernel.org, 
> ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org, ath5k-de...@lists.ath5k.org
> Datum: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010, 9:23
> On 2010-01-29 9:10 AM, Joerg Pommnitz
> wrote:
> > --- rootki...@yahoo.it
> 
> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Can you try in AP-client mode? I think you'll get
> more
> >> throughput so.
> >> 
> > 
> > No, IBSS is what I'm interested in. And the point is,
> that there is
> > a 30% performance difference between ath5k (and
> Madwifi) and ath9k. Even
> > if the performance in AP mode would be better, this
> does not change the
> > problem in IBSS mode.
> I can confirm these numbers for AP/Client mode as well.
> I've even tested
> legacy communication between ath9k ap and sta, producing
> the same
> result. Additionally, I can rule out the rate control
> algorithm, as
> using minstrel instead of the ath9k RC produces a very
> similar
> throughput test result.
> 
> - Felix
> 

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Re: [ath9k-devel] Significiant performance differences between ath5k and ath9k in 802.11a

2010-02-01 Thread Adam Wozniak
Your numbers for ath9k in the 5GHz band jibe with what I've observed for 
the ar9170 in ad-hoc mode.
If you go down to 2.4GHz you'll see about 16MBit/s.

I have no other numbers to offer for comparison.

--Adam

Joerg Pommnitz wrote:
> Hello all,
> I have a strange performance problem with ath9k. I have two otherwise 
> identical systems with an ath5k-supported card in system ATH5K and an ath9k 
> supported card in system ATH9K.
> Doing an UDP iperf run were ATH5K is the client/sender and ATH9K is the 
> server/receiver I easily get data rates of 31MBit/s (tx data rate on the 
> sender is manually set to 54 MBit/s).
> Running the same test with ATH9K as client/sender and ATH5K as 
> server/receiver gives maximum data rates of about 22MBit/s, about 30% less.
>
> Doing the test against another ath9k system (e.g. ATH9K ==> ATH9K2) gives
> the same max data rate of only 22 MBit/s, so the problem seems to be the
> ath9k driver or the hardware. Can anybody confirm these problems? Is this
> a known limitation? Any buttons to push to get things going faster?
>
> Details:
> the ath5k card is a AR2413 based design (Compex WLM54AG), the ath9k card
> is a AR9220 (Compex WLM200NX 6A). The systems are connected in IBSS mode 
> on channel 40 (5200MHz).
> The kernel version is wireless-testing as of January, 26. The kernel is
> slightly patched to enable IBSS in 802.11a (we are allowed to do this).
>
> Can anybody shed some light on this strange issue? Luis?
>
>   

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Re: [ath9k-devel] Significiant performance differences between ath5k and ath9k in 802.11a

2010-01-29 Thread Lorenzo Bianconi
2010/1/29 Felix Fietkau :
> On 2010-01-29 9:10 AM, Joerg Pommnitz wrote:
>> --- rootki...@yahoo.it  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Can you try in AP-client mode? I think you'll get more
>>> throughput so.
>>>
>>
>> No, IBSS is what I'm interested in. And the point is, that there is
>> a 30% performance difference between ath5k (and Madwifi) and ath9k. Even
>> if the performance in AP mode would be better, this does not change the
>> problem in IBSS mode.
> I can confirm these numbers for AP/Client mode as well. I've even tested
> legacy communication between ath9k ap and sta, producing the same
> result. Additionally, I can rule out the rate control algorithm, as
> using minstrel instead of the ath9k RC produces a very similar
> throughput test result.
>
> - Felix
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Hi all,

I can confirm the problem too, I obtained  the same kind of performance in
AP/STA mode and injecting packet directly from kernel space using a VAP
in monitor mode. In each test I carried out I reached a maximum throughput
of ~ 35Mbps while the Iperf client was transmitting ~ 80Mbps with MCS 15.

Regards

Lorenzo
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Re: [ath9k-devel] Significiant performance differences between ath5k and ath9k in 802.11a

2010-01-29 Thread Felix Fietkau
On 2010-01-29 9:10 AM, Joerg Pommnitz wrote:
> --- rootki...@yahoo.it  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Can you try in AP-client mode? I think you'll get more
>> throughput so.
>> 
> 
> No, IBSS is what I'm interested in. And the point is, that there is
> a 30% performance difference between ath5k (and Madwifi) and ath9k. Even
> if the performance in AP mode would be better, this does not change the
> problem in IBSS mode.
I can confirm these numbers for AP/Client mode as well. I've even tested
legacy communication between ath9k ap and sta, producing the same
result. Additionally, I can rule out the rate control algorithm, as
using minstrel instead of the ath9k RC produces a very similar
throughput test result.

- Felix
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Re: [ath9k-devel] Significiant performance differences between ath5k and ath9k in 802.11a

2010-01-29 Thread Joerg Pommnitz
--- rootki...@yahoo.it  wrote:

> 
> Can you try in AP-client mode? I think you'll get more
> throughput so.
> 

No, IBSS is what I'm interested in. And the point is, that there is a 30% 
performance difference between ath5k (and Madwifi) and ath9k. Even if the
performance in AP mode would be better, this does not change the problem
in IBSS mode.

Regards
  Joerg

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Re: [ath9k-devel] Significiant performance differences between ath5k and ath9k in 802.11a

2010-01-28 Thread rootkit85
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Joerg Pommnitz  wrote:
> Hello all,
> I have a strange performance problem with ath9k. I have two otherwise 
> identical systems with an ath5k-supported card in system ATH5K and an ath9k 
> supported card in system ATH9K.
> Doing an UDP iperf run were ATH5K is the client/sender and ATH9K is the 
> server/receiver I easily get data rates of 31MBit/s (tx data rate on the 
> sender is manually set to 54 MBit/s).
> Running the same test with ATH9K as client/sender and ATH5K as 
> server/receiver gives maximum data rates of about 22MBit/s, about 30% less.
>
> Doing the test against another ath9k system (e.g. ATH9K ==> ATH9K2) gives
> the same max data rate of only 22 MBit/s, so the problem seems to be the
> ath9k driver or the hardware. Can anybody confirm these problems? Is this
> a known limitation? Any buttons to push to get things going faster?
>
> Details:
> the ath5k card is a AR2413 based design (Compex WLM54AG), the ath9k card
> is a AR9220 (Compex WLM200NX 6A). The systems are connected in IBSS mode
> on channel 40 (5200MHz).
> The kernel version is wireless-testing as of January, 26. The kernel is
> slightly patched to enable IBSS in 802.11a (we are allowed to do this).
>
> Can anybody shed some light on this strange issue? Luis?
>
> --
> Regards
>       Joerg
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Can you try in AP-client mode? I think you'll get more throughput so.
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[ath9k-devel] Significiant performance differences between ath5k and ath9k in 802.11a

2010-01-28 Thread Joerg Pommnitz
Hello all,
I have a strange performance problem with ath9k. I have two otherwise identical 
systems with an ath5k-supported card in system ATH5K and an ath9k supported 
card in system ATH9K.
Doing an UDP iperf run were ATH5K is the client/sender and ATH9K is the 
server/receiver I easily get data rates of 31MBit/s (tx data rate on the sender 
is manually set to 54 MBit/s).
Running the same test with ATH9K as client/sender and ATH5K as server/receiver 
gives maximum data rates of about 22MBit/s, about 30% less.

Doing the test against another ath9k system (e.g. ATH9K ==> ATH9K2) gives
the same max data rate of only 22 MBit/s, so the problem seems to be the
ath9k driver or the hardware. Can anybody confirm these problems? Is this
a known limitation? Any buttons to push to get things going faster?

Details:
the ath5k card is a AR2413 based design (Compex WLM54AG), the ath9k card
is a AR9220 (Compex WLM200NX 6A). The systems are connected in IBSS mode 
on channel 40 (5200MHz).
The kernel version is wireless-testing as of January, 26. The kernel is
slightly patched to enable IBSS in 802.11a (we are allowed to do this).

Can anybody shed some light on this strange issue? Luis?

-- 
Regards
   Joerg

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