Re: PaceChangeProtocolCharter

2005-02-17 Thread Robert Sayre
John Panzer wrote:
I realize it's late for new Paces.  
It is not late for protocol Paces.
[1] In fact my original PaceSimpleResourcePosting had verbiage 
discussing WebDAV compatibility, which was stripped out during the 
editing process as irrelevant when it was incorporated into the draft. 
  I understood at the time that it was irrelevant because WebDAV 
compatibility was assumed; was I wrong?
IIRC, the WebDAV text was stripped as part of the chairs' read on 
consensus, so the editors did not include it. I don't the answer to your 
last question.

Robert Sayre


Re: PaceChangeProtocolCharter

2005-02-17 Thread Robert Sayre
Scott Hollenbeck wrote:
Proposal
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Adjust the charter as follows:

Please keep in mind that charter revisions MUST be reviewed by the IETF as a
whole and approved by the IESG.  They can not be made unilaterally by the
working group.
I understand that. It would also be acceptable for us to decide to make 
it compatible, without changing the charter, correct?

Much like we could've guaranteed questions from our A.D. about date 
formats [0], I would also expect our A.D. to ask some questions if we 
reinvent several features already found in WebDAV.

Robert Sayre
[0] http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg06611.html


RE: PaceChangeProtocolCharter

2005-02-17 Thread Scott Hollenbeck

 I understand that. It would also be acceptable for us to 
 decide to make it compatible, without changing the charter, correct?

As long as that goal doesn't conflict with other chartered work items, yes.

 Much like we could've guaranteed questions from our A.D. 
 about date formats [0], I would also expect our A.D. to ask 
 some questions if we reinvent several features already found 
 in WebDAV.

Why?  WebDAV reuse isn't currently a required part of what this group is
supposed to be doing.  Sure, I might ask questions if it looks like there's
overlap and reuse of existing work might save something, but if it's not a
requirement (and it currently isn't) it won't necessarily be a significant
issue if reasonable alternatives are described instead.

-Scott-



Re: PaceChangeProtocolCharter

2005-02-17 Thread Robert Sayre
Scott Hollenbeck wrote:
Much like we could've guaranteed questions from our A.D. 
about date formats [0], I would also expect our A.D. to ask 
some questions if we reinvent several features already found 
in WebDAV.

Why?  WebDAV reuse isn't currently a required part of what this group is
supposed to be doing.  Sure, I might ask questions if it looks like there's
overlap and reuse of existing work might save something, 
I just wrote if we reinvent. If we don't, WebDAV isn't very relevant.
but if it's not a
requirement (and it currently isn't) it won't necessarily be a significant
issue if reasonable alternatives are described instead.
I guess this policy is why we have things like XCAP (reasonable... but 
why?). It'll be interesting to see if the protocol can manage its 
current requirements without running afoul of RFC2616, RFC3986, and 
BCP56. It's my opinion that it probably will if it isn't 
WebDAV-compatible, but everyone might decide to look the other way.

Robert Sayre