Re: the menuX class
Re: the menuX class Oh, where is it? I wonder? going to look at the up for grabs forum again. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194335#p194335 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: "Hunter" and other licences
2014-11-08
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Re: "Hunter" and other licences hi dark.No he didn't. The strange thing was that he only posted it to twitter, and not on his main website. I'm not sure why he didn't update his website with the link and why he only posted it on twitter is beyond me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194334#p194334 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3 Hello everyone! Unfortunately, I will not give save files, do not trust! people are different ... smile ... gamedude thank you! turns out, you're not a bad plaing! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194333#p194333 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Youtube Website, strange issue with search results
Re: Youtube Website, strange issue with search results Yeah. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194332#p194332 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Youtube Website, strange issue with search results
Re: Youtube Website, strange issue with search results I'm having the same issue with NVDA that Kenzon Yeo seems to be having with NVDA all of a sudden messing up once a video starts. And yourtube is good... except for the fact that I can't sort my search results like I can on the normal site. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194331#p194331 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Stuck with menu code again
Re: Stuck with menu code again
yeah. I'm still undergrad.As for college, in general, you can do it. Eclipse is okay but not great. There's command line everythings for java anyway, so it's not the end of the world--the only part that's questionable is the possible lack of a debugger. They might also be using Netbeans, which is a bit more problematic, but again-command line. If you do well, most professors will work with you, at least in my experience-it is sad, but you can and will ride the blindness+doing well=amazing genius whether you want to or not and no matter how much you try not to, especially in a field where half the sighted students will barely figure out hello world before failing. Computer science isn't only programming, though, which is where the real problems come in: you'd be facing math classes and math classes specifically for computer scientists and we-don't-call-it-math classes if you did it as a degree. I'm ki
nd of unusual; I found programming in early middle school and find most math is easy once I find accessible materials of one sort or another, so grain of salt and your mileage may vary and all that.but back on topic: in general, computers do not understand human intent. In this case, it knows that you started 2 blocks and that you ended two blocks, so obviously it's time for a while. It can be called many things, but text between {} is what I'm referring to here (other names include compound statement, scope...). If you mismatch so that there's one or more extra right braces, it'll give an error expecting something or complaining about it. If it's one or more extra left braces, it usually doesn't show up until the next function definition or the end of the file, at least depending on languages-some languages do inf act let you define functions inside functions, a feature that can be useful but usually is bad practice anyway
.As for what you can do about it, counting comes with practice. Indentation is a major help and a big deal if you want to program professionally, so try that. My style guideline for this, at least in those languages that use braces is as follows: left braces on the same line as the thing they open, right braces on a line by themselves, indent by 1 more tab (starting at 0) after every left brace, indent by one less tab after every right brace. If you then read it with indentation indication on, the mismatches become obvious, though not always glaringly so. While this code is simple, I don't know anyone who can easily count above 4 levels without some help-more than 4 levels is bad, but it does show up, especially for simple and idiomatic loops over 2-dimensional (or more) arrays. Some text editors will help you indent, but I've just always done it manually and now it's second nature; such editors frustrate me because I'm already
doing it by reflex and then everything goes strange. NVDA at least will announce on change but also on read line, so it's like having little brace counts before everything that only show up when you ask.
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Re: Stuck with menu code again
Re: Stuck with menu code again
yeah. I'm still undergrad.As for college, in general, you can do it. Eclipse is okay but not great. There's command line everythings for java anyway, so it's not the end of the world--the only part that's questionable is the possible lack of a debugger. They might also be using Netbeans, which is a bit more problematic, but again-command line. If you do well, most professors will work with you, at least in my experience-it is sad, but you can and will ride the blindness+doing well=amazing genius whether you want to or not and no matter how much you try not to, especially in a field where half the sighted students will barely figure out hello world before failing. Computer science isn't only programming, though, which is where the real problems come in: you'd be facing math classes and math classes specifically for computer scientists and we-don't-call-it-math classes if you did it as a degree. I'm ki
nd of unusual; I found programming in early middle school and find most math is easy once I find accessible materials of one sort or another, so grain of salt and your mileage may vary and all that.but back on topic: in general, computers do not understand human intent. In this case, it knows that you started 2 blocks and that you ended two blocks, so obviously it's time for a while. It can be called many things, but text between {} is what I'm referring to here (other names include compound statement, scope...). If you mismatch so that there's one or more extra right braces, it'll give an error expecting something or complaining about it. If it's one or more extra left braces, it usually doesn't show up until the next function definition or the end of the file, at least depending on languages-some languages do inf act let you define functions inside functions, a feature that can be useful but usually is bad practice anyway
.As for what you can do about it, counting comes with practice. Indentation is a major help and a big deal if you want to program professionally, so try that. My style guideline for this, at least in those languages that use braces is as follows: left braces on the same line as the thing they open, right braces on a line by themselves, indent by 1 more tab (starting at 0) after every left brace, indent by one less tab after every right brace. If you then read it with indentation indication on, the mismatches become obvious, though not always glaringly so. While this code is simple, I don't know anyone who can count above 4 levels-more than 4 levels is bad, but it does show up, especially for simple and idiomatic loops over 2-dimensional (or more) arrays. Some text editors will help you indent, but I've just always done it manually and now it's second nature; such editors frustrate me because I'm already doing it by reflex and t
hen everything goes strange.
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Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3
2014-11-08
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Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3 True that they release fire balls. My strategy against those things is always to have the strongest shield I have equipped... so that I can attack while it's charging to spawn and the nfor that brief period after it spawns. The fireballs don't do any damage to me unless I don't block. lol But I see your point. It can get difficult in spots like that... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194329#p194329 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3 If you fight generators like the one in 16-2 you they often release fireballs that spawn really close to you. So you really don't have much choice but to kill them because there are also other enemies released along with them. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194328#p194328 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3
2014-11-08
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Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3 Ah... Key I get what you're saying. but why shoot them in the first place? Just leave them alone... and they won't touch you if you don't try and touch them. lol I'm only level 200 something, just don't have enough time to grind... so haven't even gotten a chance to fight the magic ball yet on any equal footing. hahaha URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194327#p194327 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pokemon X/Y, anyone playing?
2014-11-08
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Re: Pokemon X/Y, anyone playing? Hey Jayde,Sorry I keep forgetting to check back here! If you want to be added to the folder, leave an email address here or PM it to me, if you'd rather keep it private, and I will send you an invite. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194326#p194326 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific Agree here as well. And Afrim, again I say... they can't make a voice like Eloquence available with NVDA by default... because they would have to start charging customers as a mandatory thing. And that would be going against the point. They are trying to keep NVDA free, and any optional speech synthesizer a user might want to purchase is their own choice, they have nothing being forced onto them. And while I myself prefer eloquence, I know many people who are on this forum who don't mind espeak. The people who have it fast enough for their own satisfaction don't care that it's robotic... and those who do will buy their own voices, and there are many many other places to get high quality voices for nvda without paying anything. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194325#p194325 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific Well, NVDA doesn't come with high quality voices, but now at least, they have the vocalizer voices which is selling about a hundred bucks. say, if you spend money to buy JAWS then, how much would it costs? that's about 1000 dollars. and about vocalizer, if people don't want to buy it, that's Ok. you'll have another option. Like DECTalk is an alternative to eloquence one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194317#p194317 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific Well, NVDA doesn't come with high quality voices, but now at least, they have the vocalizer voices which is selling about a hundred bucks. say, if you spend money to buy JAWS then, how much would it costs? well, that's about 1000 dollars. and about vocalizer, if people don't want to buy it, that's Ok. you'll have another option. Like DECTalk is an alternative to eloquence one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194317#p194317 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Mortal Kombat x officially announced!
2014-11-08
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Re: Mortal Kombat x officially announced! Sweet. But I don't think I'm going to preorder until I get to at least play a demo of the game... lol. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194324#p194324 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Clok Mud
Re: Clok Mud As always, thanks for the info. I chopped down a tree today only to have it fall on me. Of corce I died from it, and I think someone else may had died from it too. One other person was in the area as I was and someone had to heal them at the same time as me. LOL. To bad I didn't know that they got hirt too until I was brought around to my senses. LOL. Four logs made into flitches brought me 80 rilm. The same amount of logs without that would had brought 25. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194323#p194323 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Attacked On A TeamTalk Server
Attacked On A TeamTalk Server Hello I would like to tell people that I was attacked for the first time on a teamtalk server. The server was from Nerdball.net. The first night I went into the swamp talk room everyone was nice to me. The second time I went in there there was this guy named Devin who started attacking me because I didn't key up my Microphone. He started calling me G*y and saying I was a Fag. They got me to say that I was a B***h but that wasn't true. Then they accused me of saying that the system admins girlfriend was a H** and that I would suck a guys D***. Everyone of these things was not true and I don't understand why I was attacked like that on a public server when they new that I was on there before and they didn't attack me. The second night they never did anything to help or stand up for me when this guy was attacking me. There was like 6 other people in the room. Nerdball gave too many people admin rights and it got out of hand. So Now I'm kicked from the entire server for no reason that I do not know of. I have moved to a new server but I'm not giving the name of the server because I don't want anyone following me there. People respect me there and don't hurt me. So everyone stay away from the europa.nerdball.net team talk server. I don't know what else to do. I take this is a form of cyber bullying. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194322#p194322 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I would like to try a hackintosh on a vm
Re: I would like to try a hackintosh on a vm Well, there is a topic before in this forum. I'm gonna search for it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194321#p194321 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: One step forward, two steps back with Speech Manager
Re: One step forward, two steps back with Speech Manager I just did it for the sake of doing it, nothing more really. I may even take it out when I release betas. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194320#p194320 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bgt help
2014-11-08
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Re: bgt help Hi,@burak mason released a few open source projects that he is not coding anymore from back in the mtg studios days.@lukas thanks, I'll try and run that and see if that works. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194319#p194319 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: instant translate problem
Re: instant translate problem Lol URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194318#p194318 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific Well, NVDA doesn't come with high quality voices, but now at least, they have a vocalizer voices which is selling about a hundred bucks. say, if you spend money to buy jaws then, how much would it costs? well, that's about 1000 dollars. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194317#p194317 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Audio Defence: Zombie Arena -- From the Creators of Papa Sangre 2
2014-11-08
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Re: Audio Defence: Zombie Arena -- From the Creators of Papa Sangre 2 does anyone know when they're gonna release a update for the bugs? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194316#p194316 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: the menuX class
Re: the menuX class I was talking about the henahced_menu class that Jason SW made URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194315#p194315 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Audio Defence: Zombie Arena -- From the Creators of Papa Sangre 2
Re: Audio Defence: Zombie Arena -- From the Creators of Papa Sangre 2 Ambro86, go to settings from the main menu and make sure that you have gesture selected under the controls heading, not button. That method is for sighted users. If gesture is in deed selected, then you might perhaps have performed the swipe up a bit too gently and the device mistook it for a mere tap. Other than that, I don't know what could be wrong. Hope this helps.The rumor about the second zombie horde, the one in the maya ruin challenge, being unfinished and/or unbeatable just like the one in the city crossroad challenge was probably started by me. In my previous post (169 or so, I believe), I used the poor wording of being stuck on two zombie horde levels. I meant to say that I have successfully beaten the one in the city crossroad challenge but the game froze and didn't finish the level properly, which was pretty annoying, and I tried the one in maya ruin a few times but couldn't beat that one yet, so I better stopped playing the game for now except f or an occasional endless mode round every now and then until the update comes out.Sorry about that. :-)Lukas URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194314#p194314 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: the menuX class
Re: the menuX class Yeah, but this one just doesn't look like it's going to work any more. :-) You can always use a callback for the sounds, although it's a bit more involved.Lukas URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194313#p194313 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bgt help
Re: bgt help
A small example:// This is even going to check whether any of the four screen readers is running and set the menu output accordingly if one is found active.// If not, Sapi is used instead.// The existence of the DLL files for System Access and NVDA is not checked in any way.// It's just a fast simple test example but it should work. I haven't tried to run it myself, so excuse me for compilation errors if there are any. Trying to find them should at least prove to be a good exercise for you. :-D// Declare some global stuff first:#include "dynamic_menu.bgt"uint8 active_screen_reader=0; // The initial value of 0 means Sapi. This is going to store the screen reader that's found running in the system if any.tts_voice sapi; // Will be used for output if no screen reader is present.dynamic_menu menu;void main(){show_game_window ("Menu test"); // Is needed for proper keyboard handl
ing.// Now, the most interesting part where the actual speech output mode is determined for the menu object.for (uint8 x=1; x<5; x++)if (screen_reader_is_running (x))active_screen_reader=x;menu.set_output_mode (active_screen_reader);if (active_screen_reader == 0) // No screen reader was found and we are still using Sapimenu.set_tts_object (sapi);// Finally, run two test menus to demonstrate the results in practice.testmenu1();testmenu2();alert ("Hurray!", "We have reached the end of the script. There is nothing else to do. Bye!");}void testmenu1(){menu.reset (false); // This is needed every time a new menu is to be created, if you want to use a single object for all the menus in your game, which is the easiest solution to keep track of. Like this, only the actual menu items will be removed from the object. If the boolean parameter in the function call was set to true, al
l the other settings for the menu object,including the speech mode etc. would be erased too.// A very fast and neat way to add a bunch of items into the menu all at once and pretty easily if their exact text is known in advance.string[] menu_items={"Hey there!", "How are you?", "I'm fine,", "Thank you."}; // See the array initialization lists section of the language tutorial for a description of this cool technique.for (uint8 x=0; xmenu.add_item_tts (menu_items[x]); // This method must be used whenever adding an item that should be spoken using a screen reader or Sapi. So, this whole approach would have to be slightly modified to work for items using sounds.menu.run_extended ("Here comes:", true, 1, true); // This declaration defines that the menu prompt is TTS (to be spoken with a screen reader or Sapi depending on the output mode) too, that the cursor should automatica
lly be placed on the first item of the menu when the prompt is finished talking, and that the first item should also be read automatically right after the prompt. See the description of the run_extended method of the dynamic_menu include class under the helper layer object reference for more details.// As none of the menu items has any associated behavior, no matter which one you choose in this menu, the script will always display the alert box at the end of the main function and exit right after you press enter in this menu.}void testmenu2(){menu.reset (false);// This menu is going to be a bit more advanced. First, generate a list of several words, then determine how many items the menu is going to contain, and finally generate some text for each of the items using any of the words in the list randomly.string[] words={"good", "morning", "afternoon", "evening", "night", "bye", &quo
t;you", "how", "are", "there", "hello", "I'm fine", "thanks"};uint8 item_count=random (3, 10);for (uint8 x=1; x<=item_count; x++){// First, determine the number of words the text for this item is going to consist of.uint8 word_count=random (2, words.length() -1); // Remember that arrays are 0-based, so if you want something to be able to go all the way up to the last element but you want to prevent it from exceeding the upper boundary, always use the array length minus one.string item_text; // This is going to store the dynamically generated text of the item in the end.for (uint8 x=1; x<=word_count; x++){item_text+=words[random (0, words.length() -1]);// Add a space after the word unless this is the last one.if (x < word_count)item_text+=" ";}// The item text is fully generated now, so add it into the menu.
menu.add_item_tts (item_text);}// We have our menu. Run it now, performing different actions based on the item the user chooses this time: Display a specific message and exit immediately on the first item, play a sound and regenerate the menu on the second one, just start all over again on the third one, or say how many items the menu has and recreate it on any other item.uint8 result=menu.run_extended ("Here comes:", true, 1, true); // This time, we need to know which item was chosen, so it has to be returned into a variable.switch (result){case 1:alert ("Great!", "How do you like this so far?");
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific They're not copying imho, they're trying to make a free alternative for people that have not that much Money. Think about this, ok, an American might buy something for $800, but in places like Turkey, it gets to 1600 tl or even greater when the value of dollar increases. And they have not copied all features, they also have invented themselves. Jaws was the first screen reader in Windows so they had the opertunity to start everything. How ever, the market grew and now there might not be an alternative for every single feature. And fs trying to add a little feature like the keyboard command searching then releasing 16.0 and costing for it is sad. I would try some keyboard commands or look into keyboard help before searching for the command would come to my mind. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194311#p194311 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bgt help
Re: bgt help Opensource? Where is the source of that game? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194310#p194310 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2014-11-08
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Solusi Obat Aborsi Aman Tanpa Efek Samping Hub : 085659864846 Info Pemesanan ; 085659864846Kunjungi Website KamiWww.Obat-aborsituntas.Blogspot.ComObat Aborsi atau Obat Peluntur Kandungan Untuk usia 4-5 bulan ini adalah obat peluntur haid atau obat penggugur janin dan kandungan dengan usia maksimal 4-5 bulan atau 17 minggu ke atas, pembeli di tempat kami biasanya adalah para klien yang sudah tertipu di sana sini, sudah keluar banyak uang, tapi belum berhasil, malah ada yang tertipu karena tidak dikirimi apa2, setelah kami bantu, syukurlah, sekarang sudah beres semua.obat ini khusus untuk usia kandungan tiga bulan ke atas, sangat manjur dan terbukti ratusan orang. maksimalpenggunaan obat ini adalah 4-5 bulan, obat ini sangat keras, tapi tidak membahayakan ibu hamilnya, sangat bagus untuk menggugurkan kandungan yang tidak di kehendaki. jika usia kandungan lebih dari 4-5 bulan, maka tidak bisa pakai obat ini, karena obat ini maksimal adalah untuk usia kehamil an 4-5 bulan, jika lebih dari lima bulan maka kami anggap itu sudah masuk bulan ke enam bulan, jadi anda harus tahu terlebih dahulu usia kandungan anda.Obat aborsi ini sangat bagus untuk anda yang sudah kemana mana tapi tidak berhasil dengan obat tersebut, kami siap membantu anda untuk menghilangkan janin usia 4-5 bulan, dijamin joss dan luntur keluar semua jadi darah haid.Ini adalah obat terakhir atau solusi terakhir yang kami tawarkan pada anda, kalau usia kandungan anda sudah melebihi lima bulan ( 5 bulan ), maka kami sudah tidak sanggup lagi, karena obat yang kami tawarkan maksimal adalah untuk 5 bulan. Dan biasa nya jarang sekali orang yang mau menggugurkan kandungan pada usia 5 bulan. Walaupun ada tapi jumlah nya sedikit.Jika anda baru pertama kali berkunjung ke sini, dan belum mengetahui usia kandungan anda, sebaiknya anda periksa dulu usia kandungan anda saat ini. Anda bisa baca panduannya disini, Clik disini untuk membaca. Jika usia kandungan anda kurang dari lima bulan, maka anda bisa lihat kategori disamping. Ada pilihan untuk usia kehamilan antara dua minggu hingga lima bulan, silahkan di pilih.Ini adalah cara aborsi paling mudah dan aman. Tanpa bantuan orang lain, dan rahasia anda dijamin aman. Hanya anda, pacar anda dan pihak saja yang tahu.Obat peluntur haid atau obat aborsi aman ini kami kasih nama, OBAT PAKET NO.4 , jadi kalau anda memesan, anda tinggal sebutkan nama paket obat ini, yaitu obat paket no.4.Adapun tentang harga dan penggunaan obat aborsi aman ini sebagai berikut :Kemasan Produk : Paket Obat Aborsi Manjur ini terdiri dari 30 pil aborsi. Obat Aborsi Aman ini tidak ada efek samping atau menimbulkan rasa sakit atau gangguan pada ibu hamil.Harga : Rp.1.500.000,-[[wow]].. mahal amat boss??? Ah ndak juga, bayangkan kalau anda pergi ke dokter, paling tidak anda akan mengeluarkan biaya uang hingga 7 10 juta untuk aborsi nya, itupun blm tentu ada dokter di Indonesia yang mau mem bantu anda, karena resiko nya yang besar. Disini anda cukup dua juta rupiah saja. Semua dijamin beres.Cara Pakai atau Cara Penggunaan : cara pemakaian obat aborsi ini sangat mudah dan tidak ribet. Sehingga anda tidak perlu kuatir, penggunaannya sama seperti produk obat aborsi yang lain, yaitu yang satu bulan, dua bulan dan tiga bulan, sama saja cara pakai nya, yaitu diminum tiap lima jam sekali, sebanyak dua butir. Jadi obat ini di minum tiap lima jam dengan dosis 2 butir tiap minum.Tidak perlu kuatir tentang panduan penggunaannya, anda akan kami ajari lengkap cara cara nya. Panduan ada di dalam paket nya, Jadi tidak perlu kuatir. Kalau ada yang kurang jelas, maka anda nanti bisa tanyakan kembali. Akan kami bantu hingga sukses URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194309#p194309 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Solusi Obat Aborsi Aman Tanpa Efek Samping Hub : 085659864846 Info Pemesanan ; 085659864846Kunjungi Website KamiWww.Obat-aborsituntas.Blogspot.ComObat Aborsi atau Obat Peluntur Kandungan Untuk usia 4-5 bulan ini adalah obat peluntur haid atau obat penggugur janin dan kandungan dengan usia maksimal 4-5 bulan atau 17 minggu ke atas, pembeli di tempat kami biasanya adalah para klien yang sudah tertipu di sana sini, sudah keluar banyak uang, tapi belum berhasil, malah ada yang tertipu karena tidak dikirimi apa2, setelah kami bantu, syukurlah, sekarang sudah beres semua.obat ini khusus untuk usia kandungan tiga bulan ke atas, sangat manjur dan terbukti ratusan orang. maksimalpenggunaan obat ini adalah 4-5 bulan, obat ini sangat keras, tapi tidak membahayakan ibu hamilnya, sangat bagus untuk menggugurkan kandungan yang tidak di kehendaki. jika usia kandungan lebih dari 4-5 bulan, maka tidak bisa pakai obat ini, karena obat ini maksimal adalah untuk usia kehamil an 4-5 bulan, jika lebih dari lima bulan maka kami anggap itu sudah masuk bulan ke enam bulan, jadi anda harus tahu terlebih dahulu usia kandungan anda.Obat aborsi ini sangat bagus untuk anda yang sudah kemana mana tapi tidak berhasil dengan obat tersebut, kami siap membantu anda untuk menghilangkan janin usia 4-5 bulan, dijamin joss dan luntur keluar semua jadi darah haid.Ini adalah obat terakhir atau solusi terakhir yang kami tawarkan pada anda, kalau usia kandungan anda sudah melebihi lima bulan ( 5 bulan ), maka kami sudah tidak sanggup lagi, karena obat yang kami tawarkan maksimal adalah untuk 5 bulan. Dan biasa nya jarang sekali orang yang mau menggugurkan kandungan pada usia 5 bulan. Walaupun ada tapi jumlah nya sedikit.Jika anda baru pertama kali berkunjung ke sini, dan belum mengetahui usia kandungan anda, sebaiknya anda periksa dulu usia kandungan anda saat ini. Anda bisa baca panduannya disini, Clik disini untuk membaca. Jika usia kandungan anda kurang dari lima bulan, maka anda bisa lihat kategori disamping. Ada pilihan untuk usia kehamilan antara dua minggu hingga lima bulan, silahkan di pilih.Ini adalah cara aborsi paling mudah dan aman. Tanpa bantuan orang lain, dan rahasia anda dijamin aman. Hanya anda, pacar anda dan pihak saja yang tahu.Obat peluntur haid atau obat aborsi aman ini kami kasih nama, OBAT PAKET NO.4 , jadi kalau anda memesan, anda tinggal sebutkan nama paket obat ini, yaitu obat paket no.4.Adapun tentang harga dan penggunaan obat aborsi aman ini sebagai berikut :Kemasan Produk : Paket Obat Aborsi Manjur ini terdiri dari 30 pil aborsi. Obat Aborsi Aman ini tidak ada efek samping atau menimbulkan rasa sakit atau gangguan pada ibu hamil.Harga : Rp.1.500.000,-[[wow]].. mahal amat boss??? Ah ndak juga, bayangkan kalau anda pergi ke dokter, paling tidak anda akan mengeluarkan biaya uang hingga 7 10 juta untuk aborsi nya, itupun blm tentu ada dokter di Indonesia yang mau mem bantu anda, karena resiko nya yang besar. Disini anda cukup dua juta rupiah saja. Semua dijamin beres.Cara Pakai atau Cara Penggunaan : cara pemakaian obat aborsi ini sangat mudah dan tidak ribet. Sehingga anda tidak perlu kuatir, penggunaannya sama seperti produk obat aborsi yang lain, yaitu yang satu bulan, dua bulan dan tiga bulan, sama saja cara pakai nya, yaitu diminum tiap lima jam sekali, sebanyak dua butir. Jadi obat ini di minum tiap lima jam dengan dosis 2 butir tiap minum.Tidak perlu kuatir tentang panduan penggunaannya, anda akan kami ajari lengkap cara cara nya. Panduan ada di dalam paket nya, Jadi tidak perlu kuatir. Kalau ada yang kurang jelas, maka anda nanti bisa tanyakan kembali. Akan kami bantu hingga sukses URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194308#p194308 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Solusi Obat Aborsi Aman Tanpa Efek Samping Hub : 085659864846 Info Pemesanan ; 085659864846Kunjungi Website KamiWww.Obat-aborsituntas.Blogspot.ComObat Aborsi atau Obat Peluntur Kandungan Untuk usia 4-5 bulan ini adalah obat peluntur haid atau obat penggugur janin dan kandungan dengan usia maksimal 4-5 bulan atau 17 minggu ke atas, pembeli di tempat kami biasanya adalah para klien yang sudah tertipu di sana sini, sudah keluar banyak uang, tapi belum berhasil, malah ada yang tertipu karena tidak dikirimi apa2, setelah kami bantu, syukurlah, sekarang sudah beres semua.obat ini khusus untuk usia kandungan tiga bulan ke atas, sangat manjur dan terbukti ratusan orang. maksimalpenggunaan obat ini adalah 4-5 bulan, obat ini sangat keras, tapi tidak membahayakan ibu hamilnya, sangat bagus untuk menggugurkan kandungan yang tidak di kehendaki. jika usia kandungan lebih dari 4-5 bulan, maka tidak bisa pakai obat ini, karena obat ini maksimal adalah untuk usia kehamil an 4-5 bulan, jika lebih dari lima bulan maka kami anggap itu sudah masuk bulan ke enam bulan, jadi anda harus tahu terlebih dahulu usia kandungan anda.Obat aborsi ini sangat bagus untuk anda yang sudah kemana mana tapi tidak berhasil dengan obat tersebut, kami siap membantu anda untuk menghilangkan janin usia 4-5 bulan, dijamin joss dan luntur keluar semua jadi darah haid.Ini adalah obat terakhir atau solusi terakhir yang kami tawarkan pada anda, kalau usia kandungan anda sudah melebihi lima bulan ( 5 bulan ), maka kami sudah tidak sanggup lagi, karena obat yang kami tawarkan maksimal adalah untuk 5 bulan. Dan biasa nya jarang sekali orang yang mau menggugurkan kandungan pada usia 5 bulan. Walaupun ada tapi jumlah nya sedikit.Jika anda baru pertama kali berkunjung ke sini, dan belum mengetahui usia kandungan anda, sebaiknya anda periksa dulu usia kandungan anda saat ini. Anda bisa baca panduannya disini, Clik disini untuk membaca. Jika usia kandungan anda kurang dari lima bulan, maka anda bisa lihat kategori disamping. Ada pilihan untuk usia kehamilan antara dua minggu hingga lima bulan, silahkan di pilih.Ini adalah cara aborsi paling mudah dan aman. Tanpa bantuan orang lain, dan rahasia anda dijamin aman. Hanya anda, pacar anda dan pihak saja yang tahu.Obat peluntur haid atau obat aborsi aman ini kami kasih nama, OBAT PAKET NO.4 , jadi kalau anda memesan, anda tinggal sebutkan nama paket obat ini, yaitu obat paket no.4.Adapun tentang harga dan penggunaan obat aborsi aman ini sebagai berikut :Kemasan Produk : Paket Obat Aborsi Manjur ini terdiri dari 30 pil aborsi. Obat Aborsi Aman ini tidak ada efek samping atau menimbulkan rasa sakit atau gangguan pada ibu hamil.Harga : Rp.1.500.000,-[[wow]].. mahal amat boss??? Ah ndak juga, bayangkan kalau anda pergi ke dokter, paling tidak anda akan mengeluarkan biaya uang hingga 7 10 juta untuk aborsi nya, itupun blm tentu ada dokter di Indonesia yang mau mem bantu anda, karena resiko nya yang besar. Disini anda cukup dua juta rupiah saja. Semua dijamin beres.Cara Pakai atau Cara Penggunaan : cara pemakaian obat aborsi ini sangat mudah dan tidak ribet. Sehingga anda tidak perlu kuatir, penggunaannya sama seperti produk obat aborsi yang lain, yaitu yang satu bulan, dua bulan dan tiga bulan, sama saja cara pakai nya, yaitu diminum tiap lima jam sekali, sebanyak dua butir. Jadi obat ini di minum tiap lima jam dengan dosis 2 butir tiap minum.Tidak perlu kuatir tentang panduan penggunaannya, anda akan kami ajari lengkap cara cara nya. Panduan ada di dalam paket nya, Jadi tidak perlu kuatir. Kalau ada yang kurang jelas, maka anda nanti bisa tanyakan kembali. Akan kami bantu hingga sukses URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194307#p194307 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Solusi Obat Aborsi Aman Tanpa Efek Samping Hub : 085659864846 Info Pemesanan ; 085659864846Kunjungi Website KamiWww.Obat-aborsituntas.Blogspot.ComObat Aborsi atau Obat Peluntur Kandungan Untuk usia 4-5 bulan ini adalah obat peluntur haid atau obat penggugur janin dan kandungan dengan usia maksimal 4-5 bulan atau 17 minggu ke atas, pembeli di tempat kami biasanya adalah para klien yang sudah tertipu di sana sini, sudah keluar banyak uang, tapi belum berhasil, malah ada yang tertipu karena tidak dikirimi apa2, setelah kami bantu, syukurlah, sekarang sudah beres semua.obat ini khusus untuk usia kandungan tiga bulan ke atas, sangat manjur dan terbukti ratusan orang. maksimalpenggunaan obat ini adalah 4-5 bulan, obat ini sangat keras, tapi tidak membahayakan ibu hamilnya, sangat bagus untuk menggugurkan kandungan yang tidak di kehendaki. jika usia kandungan lebih dari 4-5 bulan, maka tidak bisa pakai obat ini, karena obat ini maksimal adalah untuk usia kehamil an 4-5 bulan, jika lebih dari lima bulan maka kami anggap itu sudah masuk bulan ke enam bulan, jadi anda harus tahu terlebih dahulu usia kandungan anda.Obat aborsi ini sangat bagus untuk anda yang sudah kemana mana tapi tidak berhasil dengan obat tersebut, kami siap membantu anda untuk menghilangkan janin usia 4-5 bulan, dijamin joss dan luntur keluar semua jadi darah haid.Ini adalah obat terakhir atau solusi terakhir yang kami tawarkan pada anda, kalau usia kandungan anda sudah melebihi lima bulan ( 5 bulan ), maka kami sudah tidak sanggup lagi, karena obat yang kami tawarkan maksimal adalah untuk 5 bulan. Dan biasa nya jarang sekali orang yang mau menggugurkan kandungan pada usia 5 bulan. Walaupun ada tapi jumlah nya sedikit.Jika anda baru pertama kali berkunjung ke sini, dan belum mengetahui usia kandungan anda, sebaiknya anda periksa dulu usia kandungan anda saat ini. Anda bisa baca panduannya disini, Clik disini untuk membaca. Jika usia kandungan anda kurang dari lima bulan, maka anda bisa lihat kategori disamping. Ada pilihan untuk usia kehamilan antara dua minggu hingga lima bulan, silahkan di pilih.Ini adalah cara aborsi paling mudah dan aman. Tanpa bantuan orang lain, dan rahasia anda dijamin aman. Hanya anda, pacar anda dan pihak saja yang tahu.Obat peluntur haid atau obat aborsi aman ini kami kasih nama, OBAT PAKET NO.4 , jadi kalau anda memesan, anda tinggal sebutkan nama paket obat ini, yaitu obat paket no.4.Adapun tentang harga dan penggunaan obat aborsi aman ini sebagai berikut :Kemasan Produk : Paket Obat Aborsi Manjur ini terdiri dari 30 pil aborsi. Obat Aborsi Aman ini tidak ada efek samping atau menimbulkan rasa sakit atau gangguan pada ibu hamil.Harga : Rp.1.500.000,-[[wow]].. mahal amat boss??? Ah ndak juga, bayangkan kalau anda pergi ke dokter, paling tidak anda akan mengeluarkan biaya uang hingga 7 10 juta untuk aborsi nya, itupun blm tentu ada dokter di Indonesia yang mau mem bantu anda, karena resiko nya yang besar. Disini anda cukup dua juta rupiah saja. Semua dijamin beres.Cara Pakai atau Cara Penggunaan : cara pemakaian obat aborsi ini sangat mudah dan tidak ribet. Sehingga anda tidak perlu kuatir, penggunaannya sama seperti produk obat aborsi yang lain, yaitu yang satu bulan, dua bulan dan tiga bulan, sama saja cara pakai nya, yaitu diminum tiap lima jam sekali, sebanyak dua butir. Jadi obat ini di minum tiap lima jam dengan dosis 2 butir tiap minum.Tidak perlu kuatir tentang panduan penggunaannya, anda akan kami ajari lengkap cara cara nya. Panduan ada di dalam paket nya, Jadi tidak perlu kuatir. Kalau ada yang kurang jelas, maka anda nanti bisa tanyakan kembali. Akan kami bantu hingga sukses URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194306#p194306 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Solusi Obat Aborsi Aman Tanpa Efek Samping Hub : 085659864846 Info Pemesanan ; 085659864846Kunjungi Website KamiWww.Obat-aborsituntas.Blogspot.ComObat Aborsi atau Obat Peluntur Kandungan Untuk usia 4-5 bulan ini adalah obat peluntur haid atau obat penggugur janin dan kandungan dengan usia maksimal 4-5 bulan atau 17 minggu ke atas, pembeli di tempat kami biasanya adalah para klien yang sudah tertipu di sana sini, sudah keluar banyak uang, tapi belum berhasil, malah ada yang tertipu karena tidak dikirimi apa2, setelah kami bantu, syukurlah, sekarang sudah beres semua.obat ini khusus untuk usia kandungan tiga bulan ke atas, sangat manjur dan terbukti ratusan orang. maksimalpenggunaan obat ini adalah 4-5 bulan, obat ini sangat keras, tapi tidak membahayakan ibu hamilnya, sangat bagus untuk menggugurkan kandungan yang tidak di kehendaki. jika usia kandungan lebih dari 4-5 bulan, maka tidak bisa pakai obat ini, karena obat ini maksimal adalah untuk usia kehamil an 4-5 bulan, jika lebih dari lima bulan maka kami anggap itu sudah masuk bulan ke enam bulan, jadi anda harus tahu terlebih dahulu usia kandungan anda.Obat aborsi ini sangat bagus untuk anda yang sudah kemana mana tapi tidak berhasil dengan obat tersebut, kami siap membantu anda untuk menghilangkan janin usia 4-5 bulan, dijamin joss dan luntur keluar semua jadi darah haid.Ini adalah obat terakhir atau solusi terakhir yang kami tawarkan pada anda, kalau usia kandungan anda sudah melebihi lima bulan ( 5 bulan ), maka kami sudah tidak sanggup lagi, karena obat yang kami tawarkan maksimal adalah untuk 5 bulan. Dan biasa nya jarang sekali orang yang mau menggugurkan kandungan pada usia 5 bulan. Walaupun ada tapi jumlah nya sedikit.Jika anda baru pertama kali berkunjung ke sini, dan belum mengetahui usia kandungan anda, sebaiknya anda periksa dulu usia kandungan anda saat ini. Anda bisa baca panduannya disini, Clik disini untuk membaca. Jika usia kandungan anda kurang dari lima bulan, maka anda bisa lihat kategori disamping. Ada pilihan untuk usia kehamilan antara dua minggu hingga lima bulan, silahkan di pilih.Ini adalah cara aborsi paling mudah dan aman. Tanpa bantuan orang lain, dan rahasia anda dijamin aman. Hanya anda, pacar anda dan pihak saja yang tahu.Obat peluntur haid atau obat aborsi aman ini kami kasih nama, OBAT PAKET NO.4 , jadi kalau anda memesan, anda tinggal sebutkan nama paket obat ini, yaitu obat paket no.4.Adapun tentang harga dan penggunaan obat aborsi aman ini sebagai berikut :Kemasan Produk : Paket Obat Aborsi Manjur ini terdiri dari 30 pil aborsi. Obat Aborsi Aman ini tidak ada efek samping atau menimbulkan rasa sakit atau gangguan pada ibu hamil.Harga : Rp.1.500.000,-[[wow]].. mahal amat boss??? Ah ndak juga, bayangkan kalau anda pergi ke dokter, paling tidak anda akan mengeluarkan biaya uang hingga 7 10 juta untuk aborsi nya, itupun blm tentu ada dokter di Indonesia yang mau mem bantu anda, karena resiko nya yang besar. Disini anda cukup dua juta rupiah saja. Semua dijamin beres.Cara Pakai atau Cara Penggunaan : cara pemakaian obat aborsi ini sangat mudah dan tidak ribet. Sehingga anda tidak perlu kuatir, penggunaannya sama seperti produk obat aborsi yang lain, yaitu yang satu bulan, dua bulan dan tiga bulan, sama saja cara pakai nya, yaitu diminum tiap lima jam sekali, sebanyak dua butir. Jadi obat ini di minum tiap lima jam dengan dosis 2 butir tiap minum.Tidak perlu kuatir tentang panduan penggunaannya, anda akan kami ajari lengkap cara cara nya. Panduan ada di dalam paket nya, Jadi tidak perlu kuatir. Kalau ada yang kurang jelas, maka anda nanti bisa tanyakan kembali. Akan kami bantu hingga sukses URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194305#p194305 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Solusi Obat Aborsi Aman Tanpa Efek Samping Hub : 085659864846
Solusi Obat Aborsi Aman Tanpa Efek Samping Hub : 085659864846 Info Pemesanan ; 085659864846Kunjungi Website KamiWww.Obat-aborsituntas.Blogspot.ComObat Aborsi atau Obat Peluntur Kandungan Untuk usia 4-5 bulan ini adalah obat peluntur haid atau obat penggugur janin dan kandungan dengan usia maksimal 4-5 bulan atau 17 minggu ke atas, pembeli di tempat kami biasanya adalah para klien yang sudah tertipu di sana sini, sudah keluar banyak uang, tapi belum berhasil, malah ada yang tertipu karena tidak dikirimi apa2, setelah kami bantu, syukurlah, sekarang sudah beres semua.obat ini khusus untuk usia kandungan tiga bulan ke atas, sangat manjur dan terbukti ratusan orang. maksimalpenggunaan obat ini adalah 4-5 bulan, obat ini sangat keras, tapi tidak membahayakan ibu hamilnya, sangat bagus untuk menggugurkan kandungan yang tidak di kehendaki. jika usia kandungan lebih dari 4-5 bulan, maka tidak bisa pakai obat ini, karena obat ini maksimal adalah untuk usia kehamil an 4-5 bulan, jika lebih dari lima bulan maka kami anggap itu sudah masuk bulan ke enam bulan, jadi anda harus tahu terlebih dahulu usia kandungan anda.Obat aborsi ini sangat bagus untuk anda yang sudah kemana mana tapi tidak berhasil dengan obat tersebut, kami siap membantu anda untuk menghilangkan janin usia 4-5 bulan, dijamin joss dan luntur keluar semua jadi darah haid.Ini adalah obat terakhir atau solusi terakhir yang kami tawarkan pada anda, kalau usia kandungan anda sudah melebihi lima bulan ( 5 bulan ), maka kami sudah tidak sanggup lagi, karena obat yang kami tawarkan maksimal adalah untuk 5 bulan. Dan biasa nya jarang sekali orang yang mau menggugurkan kandungan pada usia 5 bulan. Walaupun ada tapi jumlah nya sedikit.Jika anda baru pertama kali berkunjung ke sini, dan belum mengetahui usia kandungan anda, sebaiknya anda periksa dulu usia kandungan anda saat ini. Anda bisa baca panduannya disini, Clik disini untuk membaca. Jika usia kandungan anda kurang dari lima bulan, maka anda bisa lihat kategori disamping. Ada pilihan untuk usia kehamilan antara dua minggu hingga lima bulan, silahkan di pilih.Ini adalah cara aborsi paling mudah dan aman. Tanpa bantuan orang lain, dan rahasia anda dijamin aman. Hanya anda, pacar anda dan pihak saja yang tahu.Obat peluntur haid atau obat aborsi aman ini kami kasih nama, OBAT PAKET NO.4 , jadi kalau anda memesan, anda tinggal sebutkan nama paket obat ini, yaitu obat paket no.4.Adapun tentang harga dan penggunaan obat aborsi aman ini sebagai berikut :Kemasan Produk : Paket Obat Aborsi Manjur ini terdiri dari 30 pil aborsi. Obat Aborsi Aman ini tidak ada efek samping atau menimbulkan rasa sakit atau gangguan pada ibu hamil.Harga : Rp.1.500.000,-[[wow]].. mahal amat boss??? Ah ndak juga, bayangkan kalau anda pergi ke dokter, paling tidak anda akan mengeluarkan biaya uang hingga 7 10 juta untuk aborsi nya, itupun blm tentu ada dokter di Indonesia yang mau mem bantu anda, karena resiko nya yang besar. Disini anda cukup dua juta rupiah saja. Semua dijamin beres.Cara Pakai atau Cara Penggunaan : cara pemakaian obat aborsi ini sangat mudah dan tidak ribet. Sehingga anda tidak perlu kuatir, penggunaannya sama seperti produk obat aborsi yang lain, yaitu yang satu bulan, dua bulan dan tiga bulan, sama saja cara pakai nya, yaitu diminum tiap lima jam sekali, sebanyak dua butir. Jadi obat ini di minum tiap lima jam dengan dosis 2 butir tiap minum.Tidak perlu kuatir tentang panduan penggunaannya, anda akan kami ajari lengkap cara cara nya. Panduan ada di dalam paket nya, Jadi tidak perlu kuatir. Kalau ada yang kurang jelas, maka anda nanti bisa tanyakan kembali. Akan kami bantu hingga sukses URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194304#p194304 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Solusi Obat Aborsi Aman Tanpa Efek Samping Hub : 085659864846
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : cintaloki via Audiogames-reflector
Solusi Obat Aborsi Aman Tanpa Efek Samping Hub : 085659864846 Info Pemesanan ; 085659864846Kunjungi Website KamiWww.Obat-aborsituntas.Blogspot.ComObat Aborsi atau Obat Peluntur Kandungan Untuk usia 4-5 bulan ini adalah obat peluntur haid atau obat penggugur janin dan kandungan dengan usia maksimal 4-5 bulan atau 17 minggu ke atas, pembeli di tempat kami biasanya adalah para klien yang sudah tertipu di sana sini, sudah keluar banyak uang, tapi belum berhasil, malah ada yang tertipu karena tidak dikirimi apa2, setelah kami bantu, syukurlah, sekarang sudah beres semua.obat ini khusus untuk usia kandungan tiga bulan ke atas, sangat manjur dan terbukti ratusan orang. maksimalpenggunaan obat ini adalah 4-5 bulan, obat ini sangat keras, tapi tidak membahayakan ibu hamilnya, sangat bagus untuk menggugurkan kandungan yang tidak di kehendaki. jika usia kandungan lebih dari 4-5 bulan, maka tidak bisa pakai obat ini, karena obat ini maksimal adalah untuk usia kehamil an 4-5 bulan, jika lebih dari lima bulan maka kami anggap itu sudah masuk bulan ke enam bulan, jadi anda harus tahu terlebih dahulu usia kandungan anda.Obat aborsi ini sangat bagus untuk anda yang sudah kemana mana tapi tidak berhasil dengan obat tersebut, kami siap membantu anda untuk menghilangkan janin usia 4-5 bulan, dijamin joss dan luntur keluar semua jadi darah haid.Ini adalah obat terakhir atau solusi terakhir yang kami tawarkan pada anda, kalau usia kandungan anda sudah melebihi lima bulan ( 5 bulan ), maka kami sudah tidak sanggup lagi, karena obat yang kami tawarkan maksimal adalah untuk 5 bulan. Dan biasa nya jarang sekali orang yang mau menggugurkan kandungan pada usia 5 bulan. Walaupun ada tapi jumlah nya sedikit.Jika anda baru pertama kali berkunjung ke sini, dan belum mengetahui usia kandungan anda, sebaiknya anda periksa dulu usia kandungan anda saat ini. Anda bisa baca panduannya disini, Clik disini untuk membaca. Jika usia kandungan anda kurang dari lima bulan, maka anda bisa lihat kategori disamping. Ada pilihan untuk usia kehamilan antara dua minggu hingga lima bulan, silahkan di pilih.Ini adalah cara aborsi paling mudah dan aman. Tanpa bantuan orang lain, dan rahasia anda dijamin aman. Hanya anda, pacar anda dan pihak saja yang tahu.Obat peluntur haid atau obat aborsi aman ini kami kasih nama, OBAT PAKET NO.4 , jadi kalau anda memesan, anda tinggal sebutkan nama paket obat ini, yaitu obat paket no.4.Adapun tentang harga dan penggunaan obat aborsi aman ini sebagai berikut :Kemasan Produk : Paket Obat Aborsi Manjur ini terdiri dari 30 pil aborsi. Obat Aborsi Aman ini tidak ada efek samping atau menimbulkan rasa sakit atau gangguan pada ibu hamil.Harga : Rp.1.500.000,-[[wow]].. mahal amat boss??? Ah ndak juga, bayangkan kalau anda pergi ke dokter, paling tidak anda akan mengeluarkan biaya uang hingga 7 10 juta untuk aborsi nya, itupun blm tentu ada dokter di Indonesia yang mau mem bantu anda, karena resiko nya yang besar. Disini anda cukup dua juta rupiah saja. Semua dijamin beres.Cara Pakai atau Cara Penggunaan : cara pemakaian obat aborsi ini sangat mudah dan tidak ribet. Sehingga anda tidak perlu kuatir, penggunaannya sama seperti produk obat aborsi yang lain, yaitu yang satu bulan, dua bulan dan tiga bulan, sama saja cara pakai nya, yaitu diminum tiap lima jam sekali, sebanyak dua butir. Jadi obat ini di minum tiap lima jam dengan dosis 2 butir tiap minum.Tidak perlu kuatir tentang panduan penggunaannya, anda akan kami ajari lengkap cara cara nya. Panduan ada di dalam paket nya, Jadi tidak perlu kuatir. Kalau ada yang kurang jelas, maka anda nanti bisa tanyakan kembali. Akan kami bantu hingga sukses URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194303#p194303 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I would like to try a hackintosh on a vm
Re: I would like to try a hackintosh on a vm errr. apple will no and get you? Get your tinfoil hat off. The worsed thing that will happen to you is that you will find that running a hackingosh on AMD hardware is a raging pain in the arse. That's it.You're not going to get turned into a HUMANCENTiPAD or anything URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194302#p194302 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The contraversy of Mallenche, and its creator, Howard Sherman
Re: The contraversy of Mallenche, and its creator, Howard Sherman I'll play this thing right through to the end, just for the sheer hell of it, and it's a fun game. But really, yes, I think we've reached some sort of an impasse-type situation. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194301#p194301 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PrometheusMOO via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars Greetings!The exit editor is now usable in the starships you are building! To begin, type 'edit-exits' in the room the exits of which you want to edit. This editor is used to edit the arrival and leaving messages of.Also, the editor can be used in those private ships you have already finished building. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194300#p194300 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3 hello, I know everyone is going to hate me for this, but can someone provide me with a save for bk3 a completed one actually? and I'm not asking this because I want help beating the game, I've all ready beaten it, but I lost my save data when going over to another Computer and it would be a hole lot of work to Play throug h´the hole entire game again. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194299#p194299 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Monthly chat November
Re: Monthly chat November hi,I can't focus on any control in any metro app with the keyboard in windows technical preview. I'm using NVDA. When I use a key to navigate NVDA plays an error sound. I have to use the review cursor to work with the apps. Wehn I installed the first build I didn't have this problem. When I downloaded the next preview build using the preview builds section of the settings app however, I began to have this problem and skype began to ask for webcam and microphone permissions. When I click allow it turns off the webcam and turns on the microphone. I don't know what's wrong with them. When I try to veryfy my account to send a ticket to nv access. They don't send the verification code with mail. I check out the junk mail folder and it isn't there. Also after the next preview build download the mail app stopped showing new notifications. I checked out the account settings and it was set to always show notifications. I looked at the pe rmissions and the notification was on. If these bugs won't get fixed, I think about reverting to windows 8.1.Btw it was the longest post I've written ever! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194298#p194298 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Epitaph Online
Re: Epitaph Online Hello Everyone.Sorry for bringing back a really old topic but can somebody please help me with epitaph online. I really want to play the game but I can't figure out how to get out of that accursed apartment. I know that your supposed to breach the barricade but what do you breach it with? When I type breach barricade it says that I can't I can't think of what on earth I should breach it with. Please any help would be appreciated. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194297#p194297 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: accessible bitcoin client on windows
Re: accessible bitcoin client on windows Mmm, Silk Road's (so, that's the illegal drug market, for those not aware) currency (before it was mercifully shut down by the authorities) was, of course, BitCoin.Cash can be used for evil dealings in back alleys, too. I consider it unfortunate but inevitable that currency will be used to pay for stuff we don't approve of; that's just life. Tor, the anonymity network, likewise facilitates the hosting of extremely horrible stuff, and the best you can really do is avert your gaze from such horribleness.I know of at least one commercial VPN provider and one large computer reseller who are now taking BTC and are proud of it; the EFF likewise accepts donations by this method. Anonymity can be just the ticket if you're living in an oppressive part of the world; hence, WordPress also take BTC. That's the counterpoint. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194296#p194296 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: accessible bitcoin client on windows
Re: accessible bitcoin client on windows Mmm, Silk Road's (so, that's the illegal drug market, for those not aware) currency (before it was mercifully shut down by the authorities) was, of course, BitCoin.Cash can be used for evil dealings in back alleys, too. I consider it unfortunate but inevitable that currency will be used to pay for stuff we don't approve of; that's just life. Tor, the anonymity network, likewise facilitates the hosting of extremely horrible stuff, and the best you can really do is avert your gaze from such horribleness. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194296#p194296 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Monthly chat November
Re: Monthly chat November Today marked a hell of a busy day for me because I had to reinstall the Windows tech preview as it couldn't, for some reason, upgrade to the latest build and threw at me a very cryptic error that a Microsoft tech explained as being a failed download. Well, it would have been quite interesting if the download failed over 10 times in the course of a few days. Thankfully, the reinstall did fix the problem and I had most things backed up. Unfortunately, some things didn't quite copy over to the external drive and I hadn't noticed until I got to restoring everything so now I lost the downloads I hadn't moved out over the last few months and I need to redo my Foobar configuration.I was also listening to the big finish DR. who monthlies, more specificaly minuette in hel which I enjoyed very much. Wish I could say the same thing about the Series 8 finale, which I got to watch live thanks to a friend in the UK who streamed it. That was probably the most unde rwelming finale over the course of the whole reboot. It was off to a good start but then got very boring. And don't even get me started on the ending, or the preview of what's coming next. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194295#p194295 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: accessible bitcoin client on windows
Re: accessible bitcoin client on windows I suppose the anonymity would be of similar desirability for some people as convenience, though I'm not sure if I'm terribly concerned about the government finding out how much I spend with Tesco. I may have used sites that accept BTC but I'm just not aware of which ones might.Now there may be certain, ahem, personal items someone may wish to buy without it appearing on their statement but again I don't know of any relevant sites which accept BTC. For many people there's also the traditional fall back of physical cash, or if you're really determined to be anonymous for distance purchases postal orders. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194294#p194294 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: accessible bitcoin client on windows
Re: accessible bitcoin client on windows I suppose the anonymity would be of similar desirability for some people as convenience, though I'm not sure if I'm terribly concerned about the government finding out how much I spend with Tesco. I may have used sites that accept BTC but I'm just not aware of which ones might.Now there may be certain, ahem, personal items someone may wish to buy without it appearing on their statement but again I don't know of any relevant sites which accept BTC. For many people there's also the traditional fall back of physical cash. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194294#p194294 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Clok Mud
Re: Clok Mud Axes including logging axes can fit in a haft frog used as a sheath. As for logs, don't chop the logs up keep them as large logs and either sell them in a market like with foraging or buy a permit for the local mill, use the mill to turn them first into cants then flitches and sell the flitches at a market which gets you a better price. Hand carts are very useful for this. Just don't bother with pine trees, they're worth peanuts. Oh and beware spiders falling out of the trees you're logging.The branches you get from logging can either be used to grind up your woodworking skill, if you carve arrows you can also increase your fletching skill at the same time, or you can just toss them. You could also keep some bark shavings, gained from carving the branches for the first time to strip it off, to use as kindling for fires and some kindling, made by chopping a small branch or small stave, in case you need to make a fire and don't have an axe handy for m aking the kindling. A campfire requires 3 tinder which is the shavings, 4 kindling, and at least 4 branches but you can forage for branches or for deadwood if you're in a wooded area. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194293#p194293 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Mortal Kombat x officially announced!
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ghost rider via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Mortal Kombat x officially announced! For all you ps3 and xbox 360 players, mortal kombat x is now available for preorder on ps3 and xbox 360! I will definitely be preordering my copy for 360! I'm supposed to share it with my friend but I am very very protective of my mk games. MINE! Lol. Ok bye. Wait before I go heres my favorite trailer of the game so far.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4aQzebdHv4 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194292#p194292 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PrometheusMOO via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars Greetings!As some of you may already have noticed, questionaires are in place. These are a new type of getting your opinion, dear players, more accurately than just having either yes or no answers. Now you can select from five choices.The command to answer the questionaire when they are available is q-answer. The game will notify you upon connecting if there is an open questionaire which you have not answered yet. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194291#p194291 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Cyber Knights discussion
Re: Cyber Knights discussion Hello, I will tell you where I found the button, so you know where I looked.When I am at the main screen, I hit the navigation mapp button. I get a list with different katigories like, current objective or hotels. Than there is the button called navigate west, and when I continue swiping, there is a list of locations where I can go to without a problem. When I press and hold the navigate west button and release it, There is a list of new locations where I can go to. But when I press the location button, nothing happens.I hope you now know where I am looking. Am I looking in the wrong place? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194290#p194290 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
bgt help
2014-11-08
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bgt help So I started trying to learn bgt again a day ago or so, and I want to know how to make a menu that uses a screen reader instead of sapi. I looked at the opensource projects Mason released like scrolling battles just to get ideas of how to do it, but it was really confusing. Can someone help me? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194289#p194289 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I would like to try a hackintosh on a vm
Re: I would like to try a hackintosh on a vm @EthinWhat kind of reaction is that? It is perfectly possible to run Mac on a vm, though is Sebby said, it's quite difficult. In fact, I have a Vmware machine that runs Leopard right now. Just because you were unsuccessful at doing something doesn't mean others will as well. There are plenty of guides out there that explain how to do this. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194288#p194288 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I would like to try a hackintosh on a vm
Re: I would like to try a hackintosh on a vm @EthinWhat kind of reaction is that? It is perfectly possible to run Mac on a vm, though is Sebby said, it's quite difficult. In fact, I have a Vmware machine that runs Leopard right now. Just because you were unsuccessful at doing something doesn't mean others will as well. There are plenty of guides URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194288#p194288 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone
Re: Swamp, zombie fps by Aprone While I'm at it here, one thing I would like to see is the ability to have certain type of beacons within a building. For example: The hospital. Man, trying to find the elevator is a bear. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194287#p194287 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible C++ Compiler
Re: Accessible C++ Compiler No. This is wrong.First, web sites are in fact easy. That's why I'm so excited about Aria: in the case of web sites, it can be as easy as adding barely anything to the HTML. In another couple years, once all the bugs are worked out, we'll be able to have desktop-like apps in the browser, and everyone will be able to play with accessibility.But desktops aren't this way. That alternative text on the image? It involves implementing a COM interface and responding to a custom Windows message. The total number of lines of code for adding support is somewhere around 500, assuming you even can. Most GUI frameworks are at a very high level and you can't get in to where you need to be to do this. If you are lucky, your framework already provides the support-I am aware of a grand total of 0 that do so but Winforms and WPF *might*. Other things that are problematic depending on your GUI framework: changing a control's type as the screen reader sees it, adding accessibility information to a custom control, telling the screen reader that label a goes with control b, and I haven't even talked about the nightmare of making table controls accessible-there is a reason that I export to CSV and use Excel when I need such.On the internet, your web browser translates HTML into the DOM, exposes the DOM, and hides all of this. If you gave me an IDE that was fully in my web browser, I would agree with your statement-getting it to be accessible would be pretty easy, comparatively. But doing it for a desktop app requires a ton of specialized knowledge.But that's not even the worst news. I am not aware of an IDE that doesn't use a custom framework or at least a custom control for something useful. Microsoft is not using WPF or Winforms, they're using an internal toolkit that we don't have access to. Older ones have less problems be cause they used to use more standard controls. Netbeans and the stuff from IntelliJ are using Swing, but in such a way that you can't use them--not to mention the accessibility issues of Swing in the first place, and the fact that enabling it actually opens a huge security hole in your system (larger than normal for a screen reader). Others use QT (finally starting to maybe get better, but with huge bugs yet) and GTK (don't hold your breath). Even some of the built-in WPF and Winforms controls are inaccessible to one extent or another, though those tend to at least be passable. The next best GUI toolkit for us, WX, isn't fully accessible either: all the advanced controls like property lists and tables need to be exposed, probably with IA2.But there's one final hidden cost, too. You have to hire someone with very specialized knowledge. This isn't a $5 job, this is a minimum $10 job. And you have to keep them hired or it just slips back to where it was over time and you might as well not have bothered. But it's probably not one person, it's probably a team, so yes. It's expensive. The only reason Eclipse is even accessible is that IBM paid for it: they wrote a custom GUI framework for it and had a team who put in the components needed, and yes, it was a huge effort. The workarounds being suggested here change the visual experience drastically and are screen reader and screen reader version specific; they work for little blindie apps, but not for Microsoft who can't sacrifice sighted user experience for blind user experience. Not to mention that your afternoon of playing isn't going to give you the years of experience needed to do this right the first time, and any company concerned about it also needs to be worried about 10 other disabilities-you're also going to have to give this team color changes, font changes, stuff related t o dyslexia and all sorts of fun.It's simply not going to happen, and I'm sorry that your optimism about it will be crushed in the near future. I am certain it will. I'd bet just about anything. We're at the point of having to make laws in order to get companies to even care. This is not a happy field, and there is a reason I have decided that it is not my long-term career goal: your accessibility team is often told to do the bare minimum so that if a lawsuit comes along they can say they technically met the guidelines.And more people tab than you think-it is faster than a mouse if you know what you're doing or if you're trying to enter data in 50 consecutive text fields.If you don't believe me, go try to make some WX controls accessible. Then you will understand the scope of the problem you're brushing aside with "people don't understand us". URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194286#p194286 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: "Hunter" and other licences
Re: "Hunter" and other licences Hmmm, that is odd, I thought Liam had fixed the version on his website after making his announcement on releasing the game as abandonware. Either way, link to download the free setup ]is here URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194285#p194285 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific well, when copying less features, it may work and even succeed, but copying almost all, then may not be such successfull. if it's so, that NVDA doesn't come with a high-quality voice, why would they include in the download list eloquence. you know, most of NVDA users prefer using eloquence, and not ESpeak. I think they should improve it much more. it's really incomprehensive. what if eloquence was not or some days it won't be available for NVDA? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194284#p194284 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible C++ Compiler
Re: Accessible C++ Compiler So, if you don't want to position the text box under the other control, then you can register a hotkey that forces the target to focus or that triggers it's control's onclick, update or other event as if you had interacted with that control.Aside from us, very few people tab through windows anyway (it's less efficient than using the mouse if you can use it) so I don't really see having a small minority of people observing an oddity in tab control to be a real issue.The point I'm trying to make is that there are trivial workarounds that work fine in most cases. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194283#p194283 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Clok Mud
Re: Clok Mud Fair enough. I have no idea where to go to make the speedwalks from mistral work. Then again, I much rather learn the routs so that I don't have to tell it rather or not I'm on a hourse. I'm not totally sure what to do with my logs once I cut the trees down. I did some karving, but I have a few of those I have no idea what to do with. I also need to pick up some weapons and armor. I really don't know what ones are good. I also have no idea did what to do with my tree felling wood chopping ax yet. It won't fit in any backpack I have. LOL. Hopefully kalal has not been a pain in the backside of anyone yet. The fishing is kind of interesting at times. Right now, everything I have done was around mistral lake. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194282#p194282 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible C++ Compiler
Re: Accessible C++ Compiler A few things.When your setting the various properties of controls, I'm pretty sure they look different depending on the property you set. If a control's enabled property is set to false, it's going to look greyed out or not even be there at all. Read only keeps the text control there, you just can't input anything. Similarly if you add a textbox occupying the same pixel coordinates as a label, you could run into potential problems. Keep in mind that there are transparency settings for controls etc, people are going to notice if you can tab to a label where you usually can't, the exception being link labels.With visual studio, code is relatively accessible, despite some annoying focus changes and sometimes text not being read properly. If you are debugging, it's not accessible in the least. Some of the property dialogs act weirdly to, sometimes the focus for reading properties of controls screws up so the properties don't show up whe n you select the name. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194281#p194281 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible C++ Compiler
Re: Accessible C++ Compiler I honestly think there are quite a number of myths surrounding what it would really take to make most applications accessible. I think the cases in which there would be cost approaching anything close to "hundreds of thousands" are the minority.Case in point, I had an interesting discussion with a developer over at Project Pokémon, a site dedicated to Pokémon hacking research and development. His program, PokéGen (a save game editor for Pokémon games) had an excessibility issue. I gave him some suggestions and then asked him to download Jaws and just play with it for a little while. To my surprise he did, and quickly realized that the only problem was that his icons were purely graphical with no textual supplement.All he did was create text icons, which he hid "underneath" the graphics to hide them from sited users completely, and that made PokéGen completely accessible (the hidden icons could receive tab focus, so you could press enter on them). The best part? It took him a couple of hours at most.Now I'm only talking about windows here, but most of the design mistakes that result in problems for us are generally minor and easily reversible. For instance, in Visual studio class we were assigned to write a program in which the output was to be displayed to the user on a label. Unfortunately this approach resulted in Jaws being unable to detect it, so I suggested to the prof that I use a text box with read only property set instead. Result? you could tab to it and read it just fine. If he had really insisted on the label approach for appearance I'd have hidden the text box underneath of it and made it small for at least enough accessibility to make it manageable.For another assignment, we were to create a text box for output and set it's "enabled" property to false to prevent users from typing in to it. This made it only accessible via the root curser. Solution? keep it enabled, just set it to read only and then you can tab to it and read it with standard reading keys; mind you, having to root isn't the end of the world so for what it's worth I could have gone with the original approach which was at least better than completely inaccessible labels.Granted custom controls are a new kind of evil, but hiding an alternative control still works in a pinch.I think it all goes back to the simple fact that most people have never met a blind person, and many still think we're bumps on a log who sit at home and wait to die (many people are downright shocked when they ask me how much assistance I require in order to bathe and I tell them none at all). I guess people think that making their software accessible means rewriting the entire program which is just a total myth. Of course there are exceptions (Microsoft in all their glory couldn't make their flight simulator excessible no matter how hard they tried) but these are special cases and let's face it, what good is a flight simulator to a blind fellow anyway.Most of the time, we're talking a day or two for one person, and the real cost involved isn't so much financial as it is pride (convincing someone to do a little bit of research and risk the "embarrassment?" of being educated by a blind guy isn't easy). I guess just giving the canned and uneducated response of "Helping a minority would break the bank" takes less effort than sitting down with the Jaws demo for a few hours and learning how to think outside the box.Just my $0.02 but this topic is one I've been passionate about for a long time.Now as for c++ compilers and ides... visual studio really isn't all that bad once you get used to it's querks. Jaws comes with scripts for it out of the box (can't comment on accessibility with other readers), and as long as you're just doing code you shouldn't run in to too many problems. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194280#p194280 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3
2014-11-08
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Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3 can someone help me with 18.2? i'm having trouble with the two turbulence URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194279#p194279 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: One step forward, two steps back with Speech Manager
Re: One step forward, two steps back with Speech Manager I didn't use an encryption in my speech initialization call. I mean, how would messing with speech options hurt game security? It seems kind of superfluous to me, but that's just my opinion. All I know is that my speech manager works fine. You sure that the NVDA client and SA dll's are in the proper directories? Also, you should know that the keyhook is actually broken due to a recent update to Windows. So you shouldn't be using jaws to test the speech manager anyway. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194278#p194278 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Stuck with menu code again
Re: Stuck with menu code again Yeah, the second write brace before the third option is definitely the culprit. It's closing the do-while loop that you created, but bgt expects a while statement to be there telling it what condition it should be trying to meet. Instead it sees the third if statement, so it gets mad. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194277#p194277 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3 hi assault freak, I do know of 1 way to avoid fireballs, but it makes it harder to use the pachinco which is my weapon of choice because it ignores defense and is ranged. I was wondering though, if the magical ball's shadow mode would stop the explosions? I'm not sure if it would. I'll have to try it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194276#p194276 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars
2014-11-08
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Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars Yes, but nobody else has used those certain VPN's to connect. If they do, we'll make an exception for them. We are not! tolerating attacks like this.To clarify things up, we blocked only the servers of the person in question, not the whole providers. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194265#p194265 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific It's the way business works... just by creating a screen reader they are technically copying each other. Apple, FS, GWMicro, and all the countries in the word which have their own screen readers like Japan and Korea. And it isn't cheating... it's called market competition. Screen readers are essentially the same base product, just with different ways of doing the same thing and different names for them. The base product's objective is the same... to read the screen and text on the screen for people who are visually impaired for accessing computers. Feature sets are copied all over the map... the only differences are the specific ones such as language support and operating system-specific things.When I say language support, I mean the language that NVDA menus, messages, and commands are displayed... JAWS currently only has it in English. NVDA comes with at least a hundred different display languages, and synthesizers for all thoe languages are available c ommercially or free. NVDA uses ESpeak because it is open source and free, whereas eloquence and realtech solo voices would mean they have to charge for NVDA in order to distribute the synthesizer with them. I use NVDA with eloquence... and with that combination you can't go wrong. Though yes, certain NVDA addon synthesizers also have the ability to switch between languages, or even completely different synthesizers like people have designed ESpeak to switch with Protalker, which is a Japanese synthesizer. ESpeak itself doesn't support that many languages, but the fact is that NVDA is much more popular internationally because it can display in languages such as Albanian, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Russian and many others. NVDA makes use of whatever voices you have on your computer that are SAPI compatible, so if I have 20 realspeak voices for 20 different languages, then NVDA will be able to use them, as well as display in the language that I choose. all this for a free package, which is again why NVDA doesn't come with a stock synthesizer that is high quality... the developers want to make it a free screen reader, and thus won't bundle it with a synthesizer that requires paying for the program. Those same synthesizers, be it eloquence or vocalizer, whatever else, can be bought other places. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194275#p194275 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The contraversy of Mallenche, and its creator, Howard Sherman
Re: The contraversy of Mallenche, and its creator, Howard Sherman Wouldn't runcible cargo have been better with an open parser? short answer, no! All those object manipulation moments (like opening the doors in the campus or using the train), much more confusing and less smooth.This is what I meant in the above post, it seems If purists just see something inherently good in an open parser because it is an open parser, which I personally don't get, sinse for me the purpose of any in put is to facilitate my interactions with the game. I enjoyed Runcible cargo for the writing and the atmosphere, the mix of classic Eamon style combat but with exploration and objects thrown in with a lot of different places to explore and even a story to follow. To me, "lacking an open parser" isn't a point against runcible cargo, or eamon in general. In terms of Eamon generally, well the system isn't perfect. Combat gets rather grindy in many games, and indeed in the original conception it wasn't even possi ble to improve your character or his/her weaponry through multiple adventures and collecting treasure, though Eamon deluxe changes that. The system is also limited by the character display length, and the fact that actions such as "talk" don't have in built verbs which means a lot of standard games devolve to dungeon hacks with treasure grabbing. Of course, Eamon also depends heavily on the author's own skills, sinse if the author only describes a dull environment you get a dull game. for example hidden objects don't appear as "There is an x here" and synonims can be used to refer to them, but obviously you have to have an author use these facilities of the system or otherwise it is obvious that your walking around a bunch of rooms with placed objects, and not all authors did this (especially for those really old games written in the very early 80's with quite primative forms of the Eamon program). The combat in Eamon also needs input from a d ecent author to be interesting in it's own right, and could definitely do with some more tactical options.That being said for me, most Eamons, even the very generic dungeon hacks are more fun than open parser If just because I enjoy the exploring and the randomness, and find the limited parser much more preferable in puzzles, indeed if you want to see the strength of the limited parser in many situations where an open parser would be hell, try thror's ring from the Tom Zuchowski adventures set. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194274#p194274 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: writers born blind
Re: writers born blind I was thinking the same thing, I don't want a book that is read only by a specific group of people but I want to create a good story with a blind character. I would like that my book to be enjoyed by anyone. I also don't want to create a wrong impression about the blind, I would like to write something that will make people understand that we are just normal guys and for this I will need a very good storyline. but those are long term ideas. for the beginning I will start with some short stories because I want to see how well are they received by the readers. unfortunately I will write in Romanian because that's my native language and I don't feel that I've got the necessary skills to try and write in English but I could translate my stories. I also thought about publishing my first stories on the web, on a blog that I will create soon. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194273#p194273 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: the menuX class
Re: the menuX class Yes, downloaded the class and confirmed that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194272#p194272 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific And what does it mean that? if it is ran by a group of donators, why don't they create their own product, but keep copying features from others. and what if this free screen reader gains popularity everywhere and make freedom scientific lose customers and much money? man, this is cheating and is not fair cause they are working under somebody's else job. What do you mean with "jaws language interface" you mean its ability to change the language when another language is detected? or you mean the ten languages which are supported by eloquence and this is not enough? and if it's so, imagine what kind of hard work would they need to include more languages in the eloquence. NVDA's default voice "ESpeak" may support twice languages than eloquence, but so far, ESpeak is the most robotic one among all available voices. Real speak solo direct voices blow it away, either vocalizer expressive voices. A great voice can never be included in a package of 7 0 MB. At least the voice itself should have been 100 MB, as it supports many languages. Look on vocalizer expressive or real speak or Ivona, and you also have an iPhone. what is the minimal size of one high-quality voice on iOS? in my Samsung, the american TTS high-quality voice was 213 MB, and it was clean, and much comprehensive. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194271#p194271 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: writers born blind
Re: writers born blind Well first and formost Nin you should write what you! want to write and think is interesting, then go and get it critiqued and try and make it better, but at the start just start off with any good ideas you personally happen to have sinse if your not interested in writing it, people can't be expected to be interested in reading it. On the convincing visual information front, I might well be incorrect. I know myself I can write convincingly about things I cannot personally see, so feel free to have a go if you wish.I do however think the idea of a book from the perspective of a blind character could be interesting in awareness terms, but not from being "A book about a blind person" being a book about whatever the book sis about but told from the perspective of a blind character. If your book is "to raise awareness" then the only people who will read it are those interested in disability awareness. if your book is just a good story, then anyone who wants a good story will read it and your raising of awareness will happen anyway. Recently I heard an interview with a disabled actress in a wheel chair who is playing a forensics expert in a police drama. One of the nicer comments that was made is the actress said that initially she didn't want to be in a program "About disability" where everything about her character was to do with the fact that she was in a wheel chair. The director said however that she didn't actually feel the need! to write endless dramas about this forensics expert in inaccessible buildings or whatever, simply having a disabled person on tv in a compitant job was a positive enough thing about disability, no need to emphasize things further. I'm coming to the conclusion that this is the best way to handle disability awareness, not to have endless "Look! I am the awsome super hero disabled man!" type of situations, just have someone who happens to be disable d who is a reasonable character. Along the same lines, I am personally not a fan of the alternative universe idea. One of the biggest problems of how blind people are portrayed in any sort of media (on the rare occasions they are portrayed), is that they're either super human mystic ninjas of doom, or they're pathetic winjing losers who are utterly useless at everything! As I said I'd just like to see a book about a reasonable character who happened to be blind. As to working a normal blind person into an interesting plot, well, your the author, that is your job! If J K Rowling can turn a victim of domestic child abuse into a hero of the wizarding world, and One of Doctor Who's greatest villains can be a one armed man in in a wheel chair (I'm speaking of course of Davros creator of the Daleks), then, well surely as an author you can think of a way to give a blind character an interesting life? And hay, havig them not know where to point their magic wand or risk fallling down the stairs of Draclula's castle or need to learn routes around the evil alien spaceship they're captured on or whatever the heck other impossible situation you can invent is just part of the character. As I said, your the author, it's your plot, you invent ways to put a blind character into it in an interesting way. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194270#p194270 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: instant translate problem
Re: instant translate problem Ah. Now I get it... thanks for the file! I'm still using Instant Translate 2.1... so I'm okay. hahaha URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194269#p194269 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: grave of redemption: concept demo
Re: grave of redemption: concept demo Hey, is there any work done to the game? When will you release the new version? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194268#p194268 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: grave of redemption: concept demo
Re: grave of redemption: concept demo Hey, is there any work done to the game? When will you release the new version? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194267#p194267 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: instant translate problem
Re: instant translate problem you can asign commands in NVDA and the shift + NVDA + Y is there. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194266#p194266 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PrometheusMOO via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars Yes, but nobody else has used those certain VPN's to connect. If they do, we'll make an exception for them. We are not! tolerating attacks like this. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194265#p194265 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars Blocking entire tor proxies or vpn servers seem extreme; you're probably much better off implementing anti-spam/abuse detection code for a more sustainable long-term solution. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194264#p194264 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: instant translate problem
Re: instant translate problem Hayri Tulumcu... could you please give an explanation of what this file does? I don't like downloading things without what they're supposed to do... telling me to go to input gestures doesn't help much. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194263#p194263 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: instant translate problem
Re: instant translate problem Go to your NVDA settings and go to the input gestures URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194262#p194262 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific They wouldn't be sent to court by FS... not unless FS wanted to look really bad for suing a company who isn't even making any profits off those features that Freedom Scientific can even accusing them of stealing like similar keystrokes. As Danny said, NV Access is a group run by donations and grants... an doing a dang good job of it if you ask me. They've also gone international, which is more than you can say for Freedom scientific... their multilanguage support is horrible. they don't even have an option for changing the JAWS interface language the way NVDA does. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194261#p194261 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: instant translate problem
Re: instant translate problem what is that file? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194260#p194260 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: computer simyalater 1.2 link please?
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: computer simyalater 1.2 link please? It is spam. don't care about it. because this guy is already reported to the moderators. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194259#p194259 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PrometheusMOO via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars Greetings, everybody!This post is not intended to be a throw in the drama flames. This post is intended to be an informative post of what has been happening behind the scenes lately, of what has become a really serious and annoying threat.Approximately nine days ago, a person created a character on Prometheus with the name of Henderson Acid green Designation. Instantly after creating, this person started to hurl insults at everybody in the game. Furthermore, after he reconnected, we noticed that he was using various different VPN's and TOR proxies, including:VPN's (only the provider addresses here)pulsedmedia.comipredator.seTOR proxiespolitkovskaja.torservers.netrainbowwarrior.torservers.nettor-exit.csail.mit.edutor-exit0-readme.dfri.se18.transminn.czAfter discovering this, we put his account into a state where he could not connect fully, because he was immediately disconnected. By doing this we got all the different VPN's and proxies of the list blocked.@Moderators: Could you please do a hostname check to make sure none of these listed TOR proxies are being used when connecting to the forums? The person in question is really, really rude, to say the least.Hereby we declare our kind request or all those of you who have a mud running. If you have any of these listed TOR proxies or hostnames ending with the VPN names connecting to your game, please take extra caution. From what we have been able to discover, if he does not like a game and still connects, he almost always uses a username such as:anonanonymous2orsucksAs our last piece of information, we would like to point out that last night an account was created fromhostname: dg1tgb3601.fusa.beIP address (resolved with DNS lookup): 212.83.171.167Fusa.be is a Belgium VPS provider. Our suspicions have raised quite high; how can one pe rson afford all these VPN's and VPS's. Therefore, this person might also have been hacking their way into these services to get an account, maybe only for the simple reason of connecting to our game to spam it out.Last but not least, here is a proof from the last night character's, whose name, Bob Slutty, is a violation as is, command log:Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prome>> Network buffer overflow: 7 lines of output to you have been lost <<-- --Please take this post very seriously, and once again, we do not intend to rise drama here. This is merely informational.P.S. The server of Prometheus is not! only used for the game. It has other purposes alongside it, and attack like the previous one slows down the connection of legit users significantly. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194255#p194255 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: instant translate problem
Re: instant translate problem I won't try it if I don't know what it is... lol. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194258#p194258 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: instant translate problem
Re: instant translate problem try this:https://www.dropbox.com/s/yqks502aloyvb … s.ini?dl=1 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194257#p194257 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Hayri Tulumcu via Audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3 part1:https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxbmj8vet7sj2 … 1.mp3?dl=1part2:https://www.dropbox.com/s/0sr85irsejn4p … 2.mp3?dl=1 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194256#p194256 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PrometheusMOO via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars Greetings, everybody!This post is not intended to be a throw in the drama flames. This post is intended to be an informative post of what has been happening behind the scenes lately, of what has become a really serious and annoying threat.Approximately nine days ago, a person created a character on Prometheus with the name of Henderson Acid green Designation. Instantly after creating, this person started to hurl insults at everybody in the game. Furthermore, after he reconnected, we noticed that he was using various different VPN's and TOR proxies, including:VPN's (only the provider addresses here)pulsedmedia.comipredator.seTOR proxiespolitkovskaja.torservers.netrainbowwarrior.torservers.nettor-exit.csail.mit.edutor-exit0-readme.dfri.se18.transminn.czAfter discovering this, we put his account into a state where he could not connect fully, because he was immediately disconnected. By doing this we got all the different VPN's and proxies of the list blocked.@Moderators: Could you please do a hostname check to make sure none of these listed TOR proxies are being used when connecting to the forums? The person in question is really, really rude, to say the least.Hereby we declare our kind request or all those of you who have a mud running. If you have any of these listed TOR proxies or hostnames ending with the VPN names connecting to your game, please take extra caution. From what we have been able to discover, if he does not like a game and still connects, he almost always uses a username such as:anonanonymous2orsucksAs our last piece of information, we would like to point out that last night an account was created fromhostname: dg1tgb3601.fusa.beIP address (resolved with DNS lookup): 212.83.171.167Fusa.be is a Belgium VPS provider. Our suspicions have raised quite high; how can one pe rson afford all these VPN's and VPS's. Therefore, this person might also have been hacking their way into these services to get an account, maybe only for the simple reason of connecting to our game to spam it out.Last but not least, here is a proof from the last night character's, whose name, Bob Slutty, is a violation as is, command log:Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prometheus sucks. Prome>> Network buffer overflow: 7 lines of output to you have been lost <<-- --Please take this post very seriously, and once again, we do not intend to rise drama here. This is merely informational URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194255#p194255 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Clok Mud
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : grryfindore via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Clok Mud Hi,I have been playing and enjoying Clok since a few weeks now,although a bit slow due to exams and such, I have been doing just fine. I also whent with the mercs on the cha I play the most (bayus), but it could seriously do with some more features,storage for personal arsenal, special armor weapons etc, as it stands its the guild with the least services sept the very new guild.The one guild I have been wanting to try is templers,but even after reading the lore pages most of them anyway, I haven't been able to think of where this guy came from and so on (my alt that I would need to create a backstory for). What does the process of getting into the templers consist of anyway? I've also heard of some other knight like guards or such, but no information is available anywhere.I'll actually be sticking with the 2.5 soundpack, and see if I can replace the combat file and make changes if there are any that need changing from this new pac k to the old 2.5 pack.This pack is good,but for me speed walks do matter and right now, if I were to use a pack with no speed walk all I'd be able to do is go out of mistral,forage and come back. I sure as heck could not travel from one town to other with my shitty directional abilities. I've also made a few changes like sounds on forageing and such that I'd like to keep,so 2.5 if I can get it to work is what I'll be sticking to.grryf URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194254#p194254 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Hayri Tulumcu via Audiogames-reflector
Re: bokurano daiboukenn 3 Where should i look for the javelin and my fligt weapons URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194253#p194253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: "Hunter" and other licences
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : the blasting gd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: "Hunter" and other licences Hello Dark,I downloaded and installed the "superliam_full_setup.exe" file, but when I run "sl.exe", it tells me to register before I can play. The attempt to register the game encounters a 404 error, saying that the page was not found. I know this game is now Abandonware, but I would like to play it anyways. Any advice on what to do? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194252#p194252 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars
Re: Prometheus: The Eternal Wars [[wow]]! I'm sure gonna try that! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194251#p194251 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: writers born blind
Re: writers born blind hi dark.I was thinking at first about trying to write a book using visual information but I realized that this is too much since I never had vision and those descriptions would not be so realistic. I came to the conclusion that the only solution that I feel confortable with and that could provide something new to literature is writing from the perspective of a completely blind person but as you said this rises more problems. the best solution that I've found is to create a fictional universe where the blind guy could have some extra powers to be able to participate in the plot. so I've decided that the best extrapower that is plausible and that could help greatly if improved in understanding the things that happen around you is enhancing echolocation. (if some of you are not familiar with the term it means that blind people are able to pick the echo that collides with other objects so we can determine the shape and sometimes the height of the object). an othe r idea was to start with a nonfiction book and write about the everyday life of a blind guy, I was thinking to write about all the small things that sighted people don't understand about us such as how do we perceive the world around us and how we manage to do the things in everyday life. I thought that a book of this kind would raise awareness about the blind and maybe destroy some stupid miths about us and show the world who we really are. so what do you guys think about those ideas? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194250#p194250 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: computer simyalater 1.2 link please?
2014-11-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : fluffy solger via Audiogames-reflector
Re: computer simyalater 1.2 link please? Hi I don't meen to be roodbut I don't know whatyou meen. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194249#p194249 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pizza dude's got thirty seconds!
Re: Pizza dude's got thirty seconds! Maybe the download is corrupted? How about try redownloading the game? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194248#p194248 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: instant translate problem
Re: instant translate problem Yeah, hope that will change in the future though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194247#p194247 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific That's because apple and the other company were 2 large corporations, each selling their products for money. Nvda is a not for profit thing run on donations and grants. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194246#p194246 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The contraversy of Mallenche, and its creator, Howard Sherman
Re: The contraversy of Mallenche, and its creator, Howard Sherman OK, so I've taken the plunge and got Eamon Deluxe up and running. Putting aside my instant puke reaction to having to run qbasic under Linux, which I didn't even notice while I was running it under Windows--but to be fair, it's possible, and he's done a nice job with it--I see what you mean about the elaborate nature of A Runcible Cargo, story-wise. However, it (at least from a few minutes playing) would appear that you are still constrained to the "Description then objects" narrative, and you do still appear to have the same limited three-word parser, i.e., you're sort of playing a really interesting IF game using a combat engine.Now don't get me wrong, it's interesting and I'm glad you pointed it out to me. Certainly I have nothing against people's choice to play Eamon if they like this style of gameplay. But if anything this little piece of Eamonised IF highlights very strongly the clash between a closed parser and a n excellent story. What if this had been written using a conventional IF system? Would it not have been a much sweeter, smoother fit?As to Eamon Deluxe itself, well now I've got it installed under dosemu, I might as well relive the distant past. Some of this stuff is offensively retro, but it still deserves recognition for the style, the genre, and perhaps a gold star for being written in BASIC. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194245#p194245 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific
Re: a proposal, jaws lite shareware by freedom scientific Well, it's never a bad thing, because they create their product with somebody's features, this may not be a problem for us, I'm happy when somebody works for free, voluntarily, but this may lead them to some punishment, like it happened between samsung and apple in 2012 when apple accused samsung of copying the patentas, and samsung sold over 60 million devices with those designs, being called "The iPhone killer", they lost in the court against apple, but their profits were immense. so they really lost 168 million dollars, but sold countless devices all around the world raising thousands of millions of dollars. And if NVDA keeps copying features from jaws, the day will come when they'll send them to court. But I really, really hope this won't ever happen. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=194244#p194244 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
