Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise cool. yeah that trailer does sound more like a teaser. I liked it though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568031/#p568031 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Liking the soundscape a lot.edit: hot off the press, a new trailer is released, more like a teaser. At the time of writing this was around 15 minutes ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWvhpa0Lg94 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568016/#p568016 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Liking the soundscape a lot. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/568016/#p568016 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hi.Thanks a lot for the new video. It sounds really amazing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/567965/#p567965 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise hello. any updates on the release of this game? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/567900/#p567900 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
2020-09-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : michaelhoffman1976 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise yeah I'm so ready to buy this thing and play it! love stuff like this because it's got major playablility cause you can miss a lot of stuff so going back and replaying to see if you figure out something new is what i love about games like this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/567058/#p567058 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hey everybody, here's a little bit of game play from the upcoming A Detective's Demise, hope you enjoy!https://youtu.be/FPvU_CSGMx8Aaron, re: any more games before A Dusklight Story, I would say that it's unlikely, there will be a significant Sounds Of Eden update after A Detective's Demise launches. For the mobile release of A Dusklight Story, we're going to release it level by level. So level one of A Dusklight Story may be available before the PC/Mac full game release.All the bestHarry URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/567046/#p567046 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hi,So here's a quick question, but perhaps one that is also quite tricky to answer.will Detective's Demise be the final game before Dusklight, or will there be some more games and lore beforehand? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566797/#p566797 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Ok thankyou! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566765/#p566765 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hey everybody!As regards A Dusklight Story's release due to a variety of reasons we're aiming for a November release for Kickstarter backers, and a February release for general release, but this may change as things develop. As regards translation to Italian, it really depends on how well this game does. We always want to do more in each of our releases, it's a constant battle between what's the right decision from a business perspective and how far down the rabbit hole we should follow our creative ambitions. With that being said, translation is definitely high on the priority list. It may be viable for a future update, I'll look into it this evening .Can't wait for you guys to play this!All the bestHarry URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566756/#p566756 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
2020-09-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : michaelhoffman1976 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise I tried to support it in kickstarter but for some reason it wouldn't let me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566244/#p566244 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise # 35 Yes, at the end of October, but only for supporters. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566209/#p566209 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
2020-09-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hi,@34: Where do you have that info from? I thought a dusklight Story will be released to everyone at the end of October.Regarding the Trailer, I unfortunately don't get a lot from it either, but it sounds Pretty cool and the game Concept is also neat. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566196/#p566196 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Not yet. At the end of October for Chickstarter supporters and February for others. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566176/#p566176 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
2020-09-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : michaelhoffman1976 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise I haven't even gotten to play a dusklight story yet has it been released? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566130/#p566130 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hello! Great, I really like your games and can't wait for this one to come out to buy it too! Just a request, would it be possible to translate it into Italian too? Thank you... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566076/#p566076 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hi.I look forward to hear more about the gameplay. I don't get much out of this trailer as well. No story, just a lot of sounds mixed together in a lot of noise. No offence, but that's what it sounds like to me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566072/#p566072 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Cool, I look Forward to this. And Gamepad support would be great as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566062/#p566062 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise He literally said it in the first post URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/566017/#p566017 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
2020-08-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Computergamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Thanks for the response. How much will the game cost? I am interested to play it and check it out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/565990/#p565990 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise When will this be available? I’m going to buy it first thing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/565905/#p565905 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Really glad you like it Computergamer! We're super excited to release it. This will be available on iOS, Android, PC and Mac.All the bestHarry URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/565898/#p565898 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
2020-08-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Computergamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hi pitchblack! I watched both of the ¨trailers and I love them both. I look forward to this game. What platform will your games be released on? I don't remember exactly where this game will be released on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/565845/#p565845 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hey everybody! The 2nd trailer for A Detective's Demise is up, with a bit small bit of game play coming later today.https://youtu.be/XRjlVhDZaokHope you dig!Harry URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/565795/#p565795 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hi JimmyMain game was originally planned for the end of October, due to COVID 19 hampering work flow we're now aiming for end of November for Kickstarter backers, and then early February for general release.Cheers!Harry URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563681/#p563681 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise I’m sure this is been said somewhere, but I just can’t remember at the moment. When is the main game scheduled to come out? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563664/#p563664 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise @Azure, thanks so much for subscribing. We'll be back on track with getting the developments vlogs out as of next week!@defender, not at all! I appreciate that there was a lot of hype around the main game during the Kickstarter, and now that we're also releasing other projects it can look as if that has taken a back seat, but I can promise that's not the case, it's all part of the master plan to make it the best audio game ever made . @Jeffb Absolute pleasure! Glad your digging the releases! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563510/#p563510 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Awesome! Can't wait to try it! Thanks for all the great work! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563475/#p563475 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise @HarryThanks for explaining, that makes allot of sense now and I'm glad that so many lessons have been gleaned from these games. Sorry if I came off like a jerk. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563470/#p563470 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise I saw the video before the topic was released! I am already subscribed to the channel of the first game!. laughs.excuse meEnglish is not my native language.may the sun and moon be with you! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563338/#p563338 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hi everybody!Glad there's some excitement building, we're loving working in this sci-fi noir genre, it's a lot of fun. Game-pad support is certainly doable, we'll look into it, is there a big demand for this kind of support? As regards finishing the main game, I don't want you to worry. We're always working on the main game in tandem with these side projects, and the main game will be all the better for us getting feedback on these smaller projects.From a development perspective, these side projects push us into slightly different areas and allow us to try out new ideas which then feedback into the main game. For example, for Sounds Of Eden we developed our own footstep system because it had specific requirements, which turned out to be a significant improvement on the one that was in the main game, we've now been able to implement that new system in to the main game. Audio Pong pushed us towards creating an online leaderboard and a menu system, that experience and code can now be implemented into the main game for a few online features. The code in A Detective's Demise that manages the little fight sequences wouldn't exist if we had not been pushed to make it for this short story. That code will now feature heavily in the sewer level and other places of the main game. There are countless examples of this and means that the main game will be a culmination of the most enjoyable parts of these smaller releases.More broadly speaking, being able to release and promote smaller games increases our following and back catalogue. It develops trust in the company, which is vital considering the cost of the main game, and most importantly, pushes the genre of Audio Games forwards through new experimentation and consistent releases. I hope that sets your mind at ease, these releases certainly aren't distractions or money traps, and contribute to rather than detract from the completeness of the main title.All the bestHarry x URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563263/#p563263 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise These side projects are definitely cool and help flesh out the world, but I thought that the main hurtle of finishing the game it's self was the focus?You guys have given your self a pretty big task with Dusklight, not to mention promised quite a bit and raised allot of money. I just wonder why what essentially seems like DLC/spinoff games are being created before and not after the main story is safely finished.Sorry, I don't relish being such a skeptic and I genuinely do enjoy these games, but past experiences make me fear that these are distractions or money traps which could end up negatively impacting the schedule/completeness of the main title. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563242/#p563242 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
2020-08-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : potterspotter13 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise any plans for gamepad support? Would be nice to see that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563240/#p563240 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hi.Sounds awesome. I don't get much out of the trailer, but I look very much forward to hear more about the game. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563138/#p563138 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Fantastic, I'll be looking forward to trying it. There's a lot of details about the dusklight world I've been waiting to find out, so a chance to explore it will be great. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563093/#p563093 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise if there are dialogues, could you please duplicate what the actors say for nvda. let's say you press a key and it reads what was said URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563085/#p563085 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise I really hope there is an endless mode to this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563083/#p563083 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
2020-08-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hi,I enjoyed the Trailer and am Looking Forward to the game. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563081/#p563081 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Just to translate what @6 said:"It would be great if you added a text that can be read by NVDA to the actors' lines."For any audio game with such detail, wouldn't that be more time consuming than not? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563076/#p563076 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Thanks for the heads us Milos, we forgot an apostrophe and had to re-render the video.All the bestHarry URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563077/#p563077 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Link from first post not work. please post again URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563059/#p563059 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Ar fi supertare dacă ai adăuga și o obțiune de text care poate fi citit de NVDA la replicile actorilor URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563044/#p563044 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise hey. This is cool. Looking forward to it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563038/#p563038 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise You guys are awesome URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563031/#p563031 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise First person! It's a fully binaural (3D audio) experience. On PC/Mac you'll use simple keyboard controls. On the phone you'll use a virtual joystick, which is positioned anywhere on the screen that you touch, as well as a couple of swipe based actions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563030/#p563030 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Re: Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise What types of controls are they? Turn-based? Text? First person? Very excited URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563029/#p563029 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise
Pitch Black: A Detective's Demise Hey everyone! Just thought I'd let you know we've got a new game launching in a few weeks, final launch date TBC. It's one we're really excited about, we don't want to give too much away but it features a couple of mechanics that will show up in A Dusklight Story too. With game play that'll give you a little taste of what to expect from that. In it you play a detective searching for his missing love, whilst battling crooks on the mean streets of District 5, all a few hundred years after A Dusklight Story is set. The first trailer just launched which'll give you a good idea of the tone. We'll be following this up with a couple more trailers and a little gameplay walk-through from Connor prior to release. As with all our games, it'll be available on PC, Mac, iOS and Android and on sale for $4.99. https://youtu.be/PKOwo05RxN4All the bestHarry, Connor and JordanP.S. Hope you're all enjoying Sounds Of Eden, the 'strategy' update is coming soon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563028/#p563028 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
