Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. Hello,@8: I'd say, that it highly depends on what you want to do.For example, I don't know about any accessible and usable sound editor. Audacity has some accessibility, but I don't like the editor in general, and I doubt software like Reaper is accessible on Linux. It's not like I tried, but... I would be really surprised, if it worked.However, if you're a developer, that's a completely different story.Many development tools such as git, docker or make are run from command line, which is accessible. General text editing with Libre office or some variant of notepad is also accessible and there is even an accessible ide - VisualStudio Code, which is very popular among sighted developers.The core of VS code is in Electron, so the accessibility shouldn't be going away any time soon.When we're talking about web, Orca + Firefox combination is on my laptop much faster than Nvda + Firefox on Windows. The browsing experience is very smooth, as a developer, I'm often surfing the net to find answers for many questions and I didn't see any accessibility or speed problems.I'm not saying of course, that Linux is an ideal OS with no issues at all. Yes, even Linux has its problems. I spend two days trying to connect my bluetooth headphones, just because the gui version of bluetooth manager didn't want to connect them for some reason.Although, interestingly, now as I think of it, I spent may be even more time connecting the same headphones to Windows. The problem there was, that after pairing, it was required to enable them as an outpud bluetooth sound service or something like that, on a quite hidden place, with setting I've never seen before and even the technical support didn't have a clue about it.But anyway, the Linux version was somewhat more general, and if one encounters such a problem, there is no other way but sit down and try to solve the issue.For some reason, the environment I'm using after booting seems to get randomly completely inaccessible. If it's in good mood, it starts without problems, if it's not, then I have to restart it few times to get it working.And if I have headphones connected to my PC while booting, there is no sound on the login screen for some reason, so I don't know, whether I can type in my password or not.So yeah, there are issues. But I wouldn't call the whole OS as workarounds stuck together. It's simply a system with its problems, in the same way as Windows is an OS with its own problems.Just take a look on Microsoft support forums, I can guarantee you they're not empty. It wasn't long time ago, when an Windows update was deleting files of people, and when MacOS after clicking on Show password hint on the system's login screen showed the expected password.Well, no single thing is perfect, whether it's human or a piece of technology. Best regardsRastislav URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563978/#p563978 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. That's an interesting point. Maybe I'm missing something, but I just can't use Linux with any productivity, even with command line apps, at its current accessibility level, so I don't want someone else having to go through trying and trying and trying to use Linux, from Arch to Fedora to Ubuntu and shoot even Cloudready, for around half a year and finally come back to Windows because Windows has all I need, including all kinds of games and sound packs for Muds. It was really frustrating and offputting because blind Linux users make it look so easy, and so great, and so productive. But once you dig deep and wonder why that pluggins area of Audacious... I think that's fixed now but that table didn't used to speak so i didn't know I could arrow up and down the list to deal with effects. VLC is better in my oppinion with its audio effects though. But I like messing with stuff so that's just me. But if you can use it not just for the simple stuff but heavy web browsing and getting work done, that's amazing and I wish I could learn to accept its accessibility flaws. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563791/#p563791 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. Hello,@6: as for gaming, it highly depends on what you understand under workaround.For example, I am from Slovakia. Slovakia is a modern and advanced country with talented scientists and thus a good scientific literature.However, we are relatively small nation, with population just about 5 millions. Thus, whether one wants to read a scientific study or publish a scientific study, it's much better to do so in English, as there is much bigger community.But, does that mean, that by learning and using English language, we're working around the fact, that our country is small?I wouldn't say so. We're just approaching broader community, with appropriate tools. That's all about it, we still have our own rich culture and literature, which is here to satisfy people who don't speak English, as learning a language is bit harder than getting a tool.And the same goes for Wine. I wouldn't call using Wine a work-around, it's simply using the right software to use things which are not available in our native environment.As for non-gaming stuff, I won'ŧ comment on that, as I don't see any rational logic behind your last statement.Best regardsRastislav URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563762/#p563762 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. Hello,@6: as for gaming, it highly depends on what you understand under workaround.For example, I am from Slovakia. Slovakia is a modern and advanced country with talented scientists and thus a good scientific literature.However, we are relatively small nation, with population just about 5 millions. Thus, whether one wants to read a scientific study or publish a scientific study, it's much better to do so in English, as there is much bigger community.But, does that mean, that by learning and using English language, we're working around the fact, that our country is small?I wouldn't say so. We're just approaching broader community, with appropriate tools. That's all about it, we still have our own rich culture and literature, which is here to satisfy people who don't speak English, as learning a language is bit harder than getting a tool.And the same goes for Wine. I wouldn't call using Wine a work-around, it's simply using the right software to use things which are not available in our native environment.As for non-gaming stuff, I won'ŧ comment on that, as I don't see any rational logic behind your statement.Best regardsRastislav URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563762/#p563762 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. I mean, there's MUD's, but you won't be playing Manamon or anything like that without Wine. Linux is just a bunch of workarounds strung together. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563725/#p563725 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. Hello,the accessible version of XBoard is also worth mentioning for fans of chess and other board games.Sound RTS technically is available for Linux, but it was unable to use speech dispatcher on my computer, so I was out of luck. I don't remember though, whether i read the readme, but probably yes, as I don't see other reason than Sound RTS to have a Python version 2.7 installed.And other similar games such as TopSpeed should be theoretically too, although I didn't try it, so don't take it as granted.Quentin works also very nicely, the web version is as smooth as the native client for Windows.There is also a DOS emulator called Emu2, which runs DOS programs with a standard text output. Its author was very responsive when I posted an issue with absence of ability to set encoding and added the feature quickly.The emulator overall kind of works, depends on concrete game, I wanted to give the developer a richer feedback as this was the most accessible program I've ever seen to play DOS text games, but because I rarely play anything and my example games are in Slovak or Czech, thus hard to examine by someone from different country, I didn't do so yet.Best regardsRastislav URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563721/#p563721 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. Hello,the accessible version of XBoard is also worth mentioning for fans of chess and other board games.Sound RTS technically is available for Linux, but it was unable to use speech dispatcher on my computer, so I was out of luck. I don't remember though, whether i read the readme, but probably yes, as I don't see other reason than Sound RTS to have a Python version 2.7 installed.And other similar games such as TopSpeed should be theoretically too, although I didn't try it, so don't take it as granted.Quentin works also very nicely, the web version is as smooth as the native client for Windows.There is also a DOS emulator called Emu2, which runs DOS programs with a standard text output. Its author was very responsive when I posted an issue with absence of ability to set encoding and added the feature quickly.it kind of works, depends on concrete game, I wanted to give the developer a richer feedback as this was the most accessible program I've ever seen to play DOS text games, but because I rarely play anything and my example games are in Slovak or Czech, thus hard to examine by someone from different country, I didn't do so yet.Best regardsRastislav URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563721/#p563721 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. Also iirc stuff like QuentinC or RSGames, but given Python 2.7 is deprecated now, good luck.I'll thorw in you can play web based stuff as well on any OS, so that's a gimme pretty much... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563645/#p563645 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. Hy!As @2 said, sound rts can be played on linux out of the box. Other games that don't depend on windows components can be made accessible if they aren't already. For example, java is a good candidate. Also, c# games, if structured properly, can be rewritten to use monogame UI. For example, tdv. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563614/#p563614 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine.
Re: Accessible games that can be played on Linux without wine. SoundRTS is one that can run. Check the README for Linux Instructions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563603/#p563603 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
