Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC for graphics card, if you want to stay future proof against any games that might come out in the future, go with an rtx 3070, as thats going to hold you up for several years with no problme URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/612095/#p612095 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC Yeah see, my K CPU can go up to 4,7 ghz normally, but thanks to overclocking, it can hold 5 ghz no problem. Not everyone needs this though, and its deffinitely more risky than just installing the CPU and going with what it does by default, especially if you don't know what you're doing, but most boards that are meant for overclocked usage already have dedicated tools to configure your overclocked setup built into UEFI and thus take alot of risk out of the equation. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/612057/#p612057 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
2021-02-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC I do have an X CPU. Hell it can boost to 4.1 on its own, what more could I ask out of it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/612002/#p612002 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC thing is, there are CPUs which are built with overclocking in mind and which are designed to get overclocked without risking lifetime loss, as long as you stay within valid parameters and your PC setup is done correctly, including proper cooling etc. If you're trying the same with a non-overclockable CPU, its basically pure risk, but using a K or X CPU (Intel) instead will work just fine to a certain degree. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611982/#p611982 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
2021-02-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC Yeah if you only have $1K to spend, you can get decent, but to then turn around and start overclocking it, meh. Why, you'll just degrade your CPU faster. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611974/#p611974 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC @22 what ever you do it is not worth over clocking anything as you will kill the computer faster. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611972/#p611972 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC I don't know anything about Ryzen Master, but overclocking might be possible with apps like Seeing AI or Envision and some luck with UEFI/BIOS, or some sighted help in the process. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611924/#p611924 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC Is it possible for a blind to overclock the processor and RAM?Is Ryzen Master accessable to us? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611908/#p611908 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC @defender,I'm from Ukraine.All is cheap on Amazon, but including the cost of delivery to Ukraine, the same as in our stores. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611892/#p611892 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC Yeah but where do you live, because that will have a big impact on the prices. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611881/#p611881 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC Briefly guys.I have a budget of about $1000. And without going beyond this $1000, I need to build a configuration of such a PC so that it can pull the minimum settings of modern games such as Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Watch Dogs Legion, Cyberpunk 2077, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Battlefield V, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided (Not the maximum, minimum settings, but at the same time, so that I have enough of this for several years, so that I don't need to upgrade my PC upon the release of GTA 6).That is why I'm writing here. There are guys here who understand computer hardware. We have vision problems and you can understand what I need better than any computer specialist.I think I can get by with a smaller budget, but for example I don't know which CPU and video card will be enough.Although, after learning the tests, I come to the conclusion that I like AMD Ryzen. But which one? AMD Ryzen 5 3600? Or is it not enough and should I buy the Ryzen 5 5600X?I'm sorry. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611684/#p611684 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC briefly guys.I have a budget of about $1000. And without going beyond this $1000, I need to build a configuration of such a PC so that it can pull the minimum settings of modern games such as Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Watch Dogs Legion, Cyberpunk 2077, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Battlefield V, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided (Not the maximum, minimum settings, but at the same time, so that I have enough of this for several years, so that I don't need to upgrade my PC upon the release of GTA 6).That is why I'm writing here. There are guys here who understand computer hardware. We have vision problems and you can understand what I need better than any computer specialist.I think I can get by with a smaller budget, but for example I don't know which CPU and video card will be enough.Although, after learning the tests, I come to the conclusion that I like AMD Ryzen. But which one? AMD Ryzen 5 3600? Or is it not enough and should I buy the Ryzen 5 5600X?I'm sorry. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611684/#p611684 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC I am not a PC building expert by any means, I haven't even built a PC once in my life, except the thing I made with a raspbery pi. Anyway, now that we're at it, what would a watter based cooling system achieve compared to a normal, air based one? Btw, won't the watter based one need more maintenance, as the watter needs to be changed regularely to remain cool? or does the system guarantee a somewhat cool watter, maybe based on freon of some sort?And about the mac OS virtualisation for amd cpu, the process is not that hard, for virtualbox it's literarely add one more line of code to make it simulate an intel cpu profile, as VBOXMANAGE calls it.However, for vmware, things are slightly more complicated, since there are a few memory and cpu register layouts you have to add to the virtual machine, so open the .vmx file in notepad, and add this to the end of the file, exactly as given here:smc.version = “0”cpuid.0.eax = “:::::::1011”cpuid.0.ebx = “0111:0101:0110:1110:0110:0101:0100:0111”cpuid.0.ecx = “0110:1100:0110:0101:0111:0100:0110:1110”cpuid.0.edx = “0100:1001:0110:0101:0110:1110:0110:1001”cpuid.1.eax = “:::0001::0110:0111:0001”cpuid.1.ebx = “:0010::0001::1000::”cpuid.1.ecx = “1000:0010:1001:1000:0010:0010::0011”cpuid.1.edx = “::1010:1011::1011::”featureCompat.enable = “FALSE”Furthermore, if the vm is stuck on the mac OS logo or you just can't seemn to access voiceover properly, power off the machine, go to settings, then switch the OS to ms windows. After it booted and installer finished the first faze, it will reboot. Once it begins to do so, quickly power it off, then go change the version again to apple mac OS-X.I didn't provide any links to websites, but mods, if you feel this is not appropriate, please delete the code and everything else that's required to be deleted from my post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611673/#p611673 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC Well, power wize, a 500 watt or 600 should be fine for most things.Anything over 600 will start to cost you a bogload.But your 450kw supply just won't cut it.In my workstations I have fans and even my friend who has a grunty beast of a server runs fans.Its only noisy when at full power.The component manufacturers you have seem rock solid.However, as a starter, I wouldn't go for a buy the indevidual things and slap them in.Even with the right static protection even if you can see to wire, it may be better to get a few different things.1. buy a case.2. buy a storage kit, a memmory kit, and a board and power kit.Storage kits usually contain an ssd and hdd or twin ssds or something.Power and mainboard kits contain ram, boards, and such.This will pritty much make things work for you and you know they will work.If you really don't want to do that, the next thing is an upgrade box.Think of this as a template with basic components in.You can update a storage drive, the power supply, extra video cards, etc.But its basically there and you shouldn't need to do much.Finally there is a shop assembled system.This is not a branded system but a shop assembled system, pbtech my store I use have systems they put together themselves, you can buy and assemble bits or buy the full kit and have it all handled.Next depending on your budget you can buy a customised system you custom build yourself online.If you are going to fit your own components though, I'd get a mutherboard kit, this will have a board, some ram and it may even have an entry leverl power supply.You can buy entry level through to gaming grade kits.These will have board, cpu and memmory with them.You need a power supply, and then a storage kit.After that extras, video cards, soundcards, wireless cards, usb c card if you want, etc.Buying from a supplier especially if you are building you can probably get deals and promos.If you really want to do this yourself, I'd probably get a board that can support both intel and amd cpus.Get the maximum fans you can and see.Video cards which are more then 1 or 2gb will cost a bundle.Nvidia stuff has issues and while amd stuff does work, and the drivers are good, there are some software issues with some thhings, intel can be a bit more expensive and there are multiple software packages to install and that can or can not be a problem.However intel has their drivers updated every 1 to 2 months and amd updates every month with beta and normal drivers.Virtualisation, hmmm it depends.If you are unsure, I'd go for something like an hp pro desk, then chop and change or at least a case with a panel you can just lift off similarly to when you open a car and then you can mod all you want. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611652/#p611652 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
2021-01-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC Oh no, it's definitely a problem. I've virtualized mac on 3 different intel based machines, and on this rig, nope, ain't happening. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611628/#p611628 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC well, virtualization is basically a no-brainer. All you need to do is enable a BIOS/UEFI option in both cases (no matter AMD or Intel) and the virtualization software (Virtualbox, QEmu, VMWare) will do the rest. It even works with Hyper-V nowadays, which is a great improvement over the previous versions where you basically had to decide for one technology over the other, while you actually needed both.Mac OS virtualization btw isn't a problem either, just unlock your VMWare and you're good to go. But since its basically not allowed to do so either, you'll probably stay away from it unless you're aware of what you're doing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611616/#p611616 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
2021-01-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC If you dont' want to virtualize Mac OS, it's fine. If you do, it's a hellish loop of bullshit that I still haven't gotten through. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611570/#p611570 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC @Hijacker,Yes, I read.What about virtualization? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611566/#p611566 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC Depending on your requirements. If you're not planning on playing any games on higher details, integrated graphics might be enough, but to be on the safe side, getting a 1060 or 950 should be better than any integrated graphics unit to date and be rather future safe. I already discussed the AMD/Intel debate above, which CPU is recommended for which purpose, so please go and read that again, think about it (which use-case fits you the most) and if you still got questions after that, don't hesitate to ask, but i'm not going to repeat myself here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611564/#p611564 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
2021-01-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC AMD, no integrated GPU. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611559/#p611559 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC There are 2 questions that interest most.1. Video card. Integrated from AMD, for example, AMD Ryzen 5 4650G, or discrete? GT1030, GT950 or another?2. Intel or AMD CPU... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611554/#p611554 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC @8 LOL your probably right. I plug in my $400 CPU, into the wrong connecter. and that's $400 lost. or something like that. I might try building one of those $100 Pc's from china or something. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611538/#p611538 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC @ilya: "building" a PC, means you are going to put all the parts together, is not a good idea when doing this for the first time with your new $2000+ powerhouse of a machine, you will most deffinitely do something wrong which might end up causing serious issues or defects. I'd recommend getting some already defect parts (boards, cpus, cases, power supplies, whatever) or using an old PC that you don't need anymore so that you can get an idea of how the parts actually look like, including the connectors, the cables and basically everything. You can try building something with really cheap parts before you go ahead and invest alot of money to buy good stuff which you yourself in the end connect to the wrong cable and blow everything up, so to speak. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611510/#p611510 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC I was thinking about building a PC. would i be able to build it with no help. or are there certain things, for example colour coded components or something, which some one would need to help me with? thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611487/#p611487 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC AMD is a really good option. But it needs very good cooling, overclocking and other.It's easier to take in $100 and buy another discrete. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611469/#p611469 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC You might also want to check out https://pcpartpicker.com/ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611432/#p611432 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC Another thing to keep in mind when buying a power supply is the efficiency rating. It's pretty easy to get a gold now, but it does go up to platinum and I think one level beyond that. It may not matter as much for you if electricity in your area is cheap, but even then, if you are environmentally conscious it might be worth the extra cash. You'll also want to make sure it's got all the connectors you need (usually it will) but sometimes the fan controller cables don't support the ports that allow for variable speed fans, so watch out for that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611342/#p611342 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC Another thing to keep in mind when buying a power supply is the efficiency rating. It's pretty easy to get a gold now, but it does go up to platinum and I think one level beyond that. It may not matter as much for you if electricity in your area is cheap, but even then, if you are environmentally conscious it might be worth the extra cash. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611342/#p611342 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC OK, power consumption. There is an easy way to approach this, and a more complicated one. complicated first: check out all the components and make sure to decide upon wether you want external graphics or not, because that will drastically raise your power consumption if you decide to get an external graphics card, means non-CPU-integrated. Then, after you've decided, go check out the power consumption of those devices, sum it up, add a bit of safety on top and get a power supply that is a bit above that value. Or, easy way, get a power supply that is not to fat, but still not on the lower end. E.g. taking a 300W power supply for your machine won't be enough, and 500W might be fine with no external graphics card, but as soon as a powerhouse graphics card with 2 power connectors comes into play, 500W might already be not enough. I decided to go with a 750W power supply those days, and it runs and runs and runs, even with powerful graphics and vverclocked CPU/RAM. On the other hand, more powerful power supplies will usually drain a bit more power on standby / low operation level, this then again means a kinda higher bill at the end of the year, but we're talking about a few small bucks here, not quite alot.Now the Intel/AMD debate. AMD seem to have more cores nowadays, while Intel CPUs seem to still have the better single core performance. Most games require single-core performance though, since they in most cases aren't multithreaded. More complex algorithms, video/audio editing on the other hand profit from more cores, which makes AMD the more prominent choice here. You'll have to settle for one direction though, or pick a solution right in the middle, which will probably be one of the more expensive Intel ones, since they have quite an amount of cores and speed. At least thats my take on it. Everyone thinks different about that topic though, so feel free to settle for your own oppinion. The Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 are running in my system at the moment too, and they are just fine, really, really quiet. My case is from be quiet as well and a bit outdated already I guess, but it has like 6 coolers running, not counting the CPU cooler which you should probably get a dedicated one, since the boxed ones which sometimes come with the CPU are usually garbage. That was my approach on saving because I didn't want to build a water-cooling system for that PC yet, first because I think it isn't needed, because I will never need the power that would justify a water-cooled system, and second because its a lot more expensive and risky (one single leak and you can throw your hardware away if it ends up badly).Honestly, I don't think that any blind person would actually need (not want, thats a different story) a water-cooled system. A rule of thumb I learned is that you don't want to invest into a water-cooled system unless you're using 2 or more full-blown graphics cards, like a 3070 upward. Air-cooled systems will easily be able to handle the heat below those specs. Watching my temperatures, even with overclocked CPU and RAM and a 2080 ti running at benchmarks, my temperature levels stay in a green, sometimes yellow range. And since blind people don't play Cyberpunk 2077 at ultra specs, you seriously simply don't need to throw the money out of the window, if you seriously want to, i'm here and will gladly take it.Its just the car question. You could buy a car that can go up to a several amount of speed, but you're living in a country where you are allowed to speed up to half the speed that your car can go at most of the time, so why bother paying for things you won't ever use in the first place? Plus, the engines in that car will probably drain mor gas by default, which will end up being expensive for no reason in the long run.TLDR: sure its great to have a powerhouse of a machine sitting in your corner, you know, you can tell your friends "oh my machine is beating yours to a crisp" or "oh, your game is lacking? well, my PC doesn't even break a sweat". But thats probably all the fun you can get out of paying a thousand or more bucks than actually needed, and that most of the time feels like a pretty painful investment for just a bit of fun. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611341/#p611341 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Building a desktop PC
Re: Building a desktop PC Funny enough, I was gonna make a topic about this exact same thing. I want to have full control over my computer and not be limited by what the manufacturer decides I should have, because a lot of modern computers seem to have this limitation now. My goal is to build a computer that's fast, quiet, and can handle pretty much anything I might wish to throw at it with no difficulty. For this reason, I want to water-cool my machine, because I heard water-cooling is pretty good at taking away heat from the components while staying quiet at the same time. I also heard the AMD Rizen is the best consumer processer on the market right now, so I wanted to invest in that. Apart from that, I'm not sure what else I want. If anyone can give me tips or resources where I can find the parts I need to put this beast together, that'd be much appreciated. I do know this is gonna take a while to save up for, which is why I wanted to get the best parts anyway since I already have a computer that does alright and I can wait however long it takes to save money for this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611333/#p611333 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
