Re: best python compiler
Re: best python compiler the thing with cython is that you can place your modules into 1 module and compile it into a .pyd file, and then create a launcher script that imports it and package that with pyinstaller and your module works.another approach is to use cython's --embed option (not recommended at all, you need to find each annd every module and it's dependency and place it beside your script + python's dll, which pyInstaller does it for you although by another approach). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/561497/#p561497 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler Pyinstaller will at least know how to package cython-compiled code. I know this works because that's what Synthizer is and I have one user using pyinstaller with it without doing anything extra. I don't know if you can get pyinstaller to actually cythonize for you.Cython works on most normal Python code, which is what I mean about it working 99% of the time. But there's occasional things it won't work on. If it's your own code you can usually fix it. If it's a dependency you can't, but you can just distribute that part as normal Python in most cases, so in the end it's fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/561439/#p561439 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @22Can Pyinstaller compile cyton? as fr as i know that it does.and the second one i think you can still compile pure python modules as well right? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/561404/#p561404 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @21Any code which goes through Cython can't be decompiled. Any parts of the app which don't go through Cython aren't protected.You'll have to leave some modules unprotected, but they won't be your modules, they'll be third party dependencies from pip. Cython works 99% of the time, and for your own code you can fix the last 1% yourself. And since third party dependencies are on Pypi, it's not like I need to steal yours. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/561388/#p561388 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler Correct me if i m wrong but, as far as i know you can cythonise your code and pyinstaller can compile it as well. it won't protect your code from getting stolen though, The code won'T be that mutch vulnurable. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/561384/#p561384 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @camlorni am also like you only. excited to know about computer,and how computer works, no one teaches me programming. i do learn on internet only. i have no one to ask other than internet about programming but in different approach. i will change my approach. i asked because mingw is available according to cython manuall and the guides din't work on my pc. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558886/#p558886 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @camlorni am also like you only. excited to know about computer and how it works. but in different approach. i will change my approach. i asked because mingw is available according to cython manuall and the guides din't work on my pc. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558886/#p558886 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @camlorni am also like you only. exited to know about computer and how it works. but in different approach. i will change my approach. i asked because mingw is available according to cython manuall and the guides din't work on my pc. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558886/#p558886 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @16Trying to program when you're young isn't the problem. I was programming when I was 12 or 13. It probably helped that I didn't have anyone to ask, though, and also that I was doing it for the joy of knowing how computers worked. There's a lot in it, if you're the right kind of young blind person, in that it's a thing you can do all on your own that's cool and valuable and whatnot.The problem here is that their approach to questions is to get an answer, not like the answer they get, and then continue to insist that there must be a better answer than the one they're getting. A lot of people here do that to one degree or another.If you're 13 or 14 there's something to say for being aware that you're still getting smarter in a completely literal sense, though. I don't think all the would-be programmers in that age group here are able to face that. I wasn't, and there was a time a big chunk of Alter Aeon hated me for it.@17Irregardless of what I say, you will either change your hobby, change your approach to programming, or fail to get anywhere. I didn't say you should stop, I said that if you want instant gratification you should stop. Being able to program competently literally takes years and for much of that time you're not going to be releasing stuff. You can't make yourself a programmer by flailing around like you are. You can't do it by demanding different answers until you get the one you like or by fighting what other people are doing or by anything less than taking it methodically, starting from the beginning, and proceeding to the end. You won't accept "don't worry about this right now" as an answer, you won't accept "read the manual" as an answer, you are apparently even hesitant to install development tools. If you're only here to release games as fast as you can, it's a dead end, at best you'll be another of the avalanche of people posting gaming equivalents of hello world to new releases. You seriously need to change your approach to one based around actually learning how things work properly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558874/#p558874 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @17, of course it is, but it seems like every blind guy wants to code and then they end up making the same mistakes your making - how can I obfuscate my code. The ultimate point is this: there is no way to protect your code. Even writing it in C/C++ (or any other compiled language) doesn't do that. It does it, to a point, but someone will always find a way to reverse engineer your code, and someone is always going to do it, no matter how many legal contracts or protection measures you put in place to prevent them from doing that. I don't understand why that's hard to grasp by many people, corporations included. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558873/#p558873 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler ok ok. thanks for your replys and i will not post any questions unless i don't get answers i need on google. and also, @15, i don't like that line change your hobby. i love coding so it is my hobby. and also, no one have rights to say me chage my hobby. my hobby is up to me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558862/#p558862 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler It’s that age, I’m afraid. An age where, unless the reward is apparent, someone will try a shorter route in order to bring themselves closer to that gratification. Why do so many young blind people attempt programming is beyond me, but that is a discussion for another topic. That being said, if googling using Cython brings up a bunch of results with visual studio included in them, chances are you should install the tools that most people use. There is a reason why they use them, mainly that it actually works. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558848/#p558848 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler You need Visual Studio, but frankly it's no bigger than Mingw and Mingw is kind of buggy on Windows anyhow. On good internet, an install takes like 15 minutes. It's not as bad as it used to be.In general you're not going to have luck as a programmer until you stop trying to cut corners. We told you what to use, and I don't think you realize how frustrating it is to have you come back and ask us to walk you through every step of the process and by the way can we tell you how to avoid installing a thing the tool says it needs. If you want instant gratification find a different hobby. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558835/#p558835 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler hi,read it's documentation, and learn to write a setup script for it.then cythonize your scripts and place it beside your a python file and import it. then use PyInstaller to destribute that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558803/#p558803 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler so friends, i will agree with all of you replys. so, i have cython installed on my python envirement and i have mingw c/c++ compiler. but, i heard some were it can be used with cython. if any one knows how to use mingw in cython, please tell me. because it uses visual studio with visual c++. but i don't wan't to install that much big app if i use it for only cython. mingw is light wait. so, i am willing to use it. if any one know, please tell me how to use it in cython.thannkyou in advance URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558772/#p558772 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @11Or, as has been said repeatedly on this site and once on this thread, just compile parts or all of the app with Cython..net doesn't protect your code. The JVM doesn't protect your code. Anything less than using C/C++ in a release build with no debug symbols doesn't protect your code. The best you can do is make it a bit harder to reverse engineer. But that is all. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558687/#p558687 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler I've used Py2Exe before, but that was purely for user convenience and distribution. Ultimately with that in mind I kind of wish I'd gone .NET. PyArmor (they've spelt that wrong) preports to do some level of this for you. Might be worth considering. You could also look into uglification and minification of Python code, it works to rather accidentally obfiscate JS code, though Python needing whitespace will make minification hard. Maybe it can just be uglified. But even that can sort of be reversed.Really though, most of this will be reversabl with Python, it's an interpreted language, it's some of the risk you take. So your options are really compile it or change to a compiled language. Or, another option, have your code hosted online. With the obvious caveat that no internet connection, no app. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558683/#p558683 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @9You're really, really not. That's why I probably come across as frustrated on these threads. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558654/#p558654 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler Honestly, what is the real concern here for people about people decompiling their games? So what if they have the source? Noone here is making a living making audio games. This is really just a hobby.Maybe I am missing something, in which I apologize for my ignorance. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558644/#p558644 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler @7I mean there's at least 2 ways I know of to deal with this but neither are going to be something they can handle, and their attempts to try to handle this are just going to stop them from doing anything else for an indefinite period. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558632/#p558632 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler I am not saying that you are incorrect, I am merely pointing out that his concern is a valid one, if not the most prevalent right now. I definitely understand where you’re coming from, though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558601/#p558601 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler So? Having not released software that's closed source is worth less than having released software that got stolen or cracked or whatever. I wish people would get this. Antipiracy/antitheft is a game for people who aren't still learning. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558581/#p558581 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler If he releases a game on here, or any kind of software that is built with python, people will try and get at it just to say that they have it. I don’t know why, few of them would have the necessary knowledge to do anything with it, but that is the sad truth. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558574/#p558574 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler Compile parts of the app with cython. Or learn to build Python from source and shuffle the bytecodes.I strongly suggest you worry about this when you're actually at the point of being able to release something. At your level of experience, no one cares about stealing your code. This is harsh but true. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558558/#p558558 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler but i wan't to keep my software closed source. pyinstaller is easy to decompile. so is there any secured compilers? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558550/#p558550 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: best python compiler HiI personally use Pyinstaller.It can do a single file (which I wouldn't recommend), or a folder.Just be aware that it doesn't do things like sounds without you telling it to. Check pyinstaller -h for details.FYI, you can't use a single file if you're including DLLs, or assets like sounds.There's also py2exe, but I found that required more configuration, and you had to write your own setup.py file, rather than Pyinstaller, which lets you use the command line script to build a .spec file, which it then uses for the actual build process.HTH. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558497/#p558497 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
best python compiler
best python compiler hey all, as for the title describe's what is the best python to exe compiler. with onefile.?thankyou URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558456/#p558456 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
