Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records now doing FLAC
I will have to do some tests at 44.1 kHz and compare 16 bit files to 24 bit files at the same sample rate. For content, I have been downloading 96 88.2 kHz material from Linn Records, and then down-sampling it to 48 kHz - the result sounds fabulous. For test tones, I have been using Audacity to make my own test files, and there are some sites on the web that provide such files as well. I am certain at this point that 48kHz-24bits is greatly preferred over 44.1kHz-16bit (to my ears and brain.) I was thinking it was the sample rate that provided the improvement, but maybe not. I am changing two variables together, and need to do some more testing where only one of those two variables is changed and the other is held fixed. -Ron -- Ron F. *Squeezebox setup:* wireless SB3 - CI Audio VDA.2 DAC + VAC.1 PSU *Main rig:* NAD 7600 + NAD 2600A - Phase Tech PC-6.5 speakers *Headphone rig:* Headroom Max - Sennheiser 650s *Other stuff:* NAD C542 CDP, NAD 6300 Tape, Monster 5100 Power conditioner, Outlaw Audio cables Ron F.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5616 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34985 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Besides, the SB3 is already super-cool anyway. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] modding digital of squeezebox (boldercables)
opaqueice;204658 Wrote: On the other hand it does make sense to judge people by what they've posted in the past, and on that basis I will continue to ignore your posts and read Skunk's. Well said, Opaqueice. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] modding digital of squeezebox (boldercables)
opaqueice;204658 Wrote: On the other hand it does make sense to judge people by what they've posted in the past, and on that basis I will continue to ignore your posts and read Skunk's. I will second that, opaqueice. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
If you put a picture of SB in the freezer it will have benificial results. Just ask May Belt -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] modding digital of squeezebox (boldercables)
Another mod place : http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=SDTransporterCategory_Code=MODSProduct_Count=44 -- Anne Squeezebox 3 Stereovox XV2 Bryston B100-DA SST Martin Logan Aeon I Sennheiser HD580 Precision Anne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] modding digital of squeezebox (boldercables)
Anne;204675 Wrote: Another mod place : http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=SDTransporterCategory_Code=MODSProduct_Count=44 for the Transporter though... These are the people mentioned earlier in the thread who advertised mods for the Transporter well before it was released. They could have had a Transporter before they were released to the general public but, bearing in mind the attitude of Sean and SlimDevices to product launches this seems a bit unlikely. MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Bryston 4B ST PMC OB1s SB3 NAIM NAC 102 NAIM NAP 180 Shahinian Arcs http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mark visits Bryston
Cheers Mark for the pics and post. When I get around to demoing power amps, Bryston is on the short list. So interesting having a bit of an inside view :) -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35553 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
tomjtx;204672 Wrote: If you put a picture of SB in the freezer it will have benificial results. :D Does current flow easer in warm materials ? Therefore, like wine, would we not need to find the optimum operating temperature for each component Oo! -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
If you put a picture of SB in the freezer it will have benificial results Nah that won't work. A once off extreme cooling session...aka cryo treatment will have lasting benefits! ;) -- Bas Horneman Bas Horneman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Bas Horneman;204697 Wrote: Nah that won't work. A once off extreme cooling session...aka cryo treatment will have lasting benefits! ;) After it has been cryoed it is hard to describe the improvement...but it's like a veil has been lifted. I think I can provide a more detailed description. It's like a bride's veil has been lifted, and you are the groom, and her warm, moist lips are waiting for your first kiss. Her ample chest is heaving with anticipation and you feel a stirring in your nether region... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTT Download Center
The download center is finally back up and running. After weeks of testing different delivery software and servers we have finally come up with a combo that works, we have five releases now and many more releases in the near future. Visit our site at www.highdeftapetransfers.net -- HDTT HDTT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10440 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35609 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTT Download Center
Yay more releases please :) Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR 859, Living Voice Auditorium II plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35609 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
tyler_durden;204713 Wrote: and you feel a stirring in your nether region... TD ...at which point the delusion wears off, and you realize the stirring was someone trying to get at your wallet. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mark visits Bryston
If you ever get a chance to visit them again, bring them a new font. It's not 1974 any more. :-) Thanks for the pics. -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35553 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
tyler_durden;204713 Wrote: I think I can provide a more detailed description. It's like a bride's veil has been lifted, and you are the groom, and her warm, moist lips are waiting for your first kiss. Her ample chest is heaving with anticipation and you feel a stirring in your nether region... TD Well I always knew audiphiles had vivid imaginations. After lifting the veil with such great anticipation, I only hope your system still had some PRaT... -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mark visits Bryston
dem;204732 Wrote: If you ever get a chance to visit them again, bring them a new font. It's not 1974 any more. :-) The font is kinda retro, for sure. It's also not very legible - the 28B SST looked like a 2BB SST to me, Brian corrected me. They have such a reputation now though that a Bryston without that logo and font wouldn't be Bryston - it's tradition. You see that font and you instantly think Bryston. Actually the logo they used in '74 was interesting (take a look at that serial 0001) - the B was formed from a diode symbol and an inductor symbol. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35553 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] modding digital of squeezebox (boldercables)
opaqueice;204658 Wrote: On the other hand it does make sense to judge people by what they've posted in the past, and on that basis I will continue to ignore your posts and read Skunk's. Thanks for reading my all my posts. -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] modding digital of squeezebox (boldercables)
ModelCitizen;204681 Wrote: These are the people mentioned earlier in the thread who advertised mods for the Transporter well before it was released. They could have had a Transporter before they were released to the general public but, bearing in mind the attitude of Sean and SlimDevices to product launches this seems a bit unlikely. MC Dealers had TPs before the public release. -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] First shot at using Inguz
So thanks to Hugh I was able to get past the problem I was having with DRC generating the correction files from my room sweeps. I generated two sets of files: one set with the default target curves and a second with the targets replaced with flat.txt. I also used the normal.drc on Hugh's website and the right mic cal file (I use a Behringer ECM8000). I'm attaching the response curve taken from the Measured Impulse sweep, and the Test Convolution for the one I wound up selecting for my first experiment (this one was from the normal_direct WAV filter using flat.txt). Now, if the Measured Response file is right, you can see that my uncorrected room response is not so bad above 300Hz, but gets pretty nasty down low. The selected correction curve, again assuming all inputs were proper, shows a pretty decent response down to about 30Hz. So that's why I decided to try it. Guess what? I didn't care for it at all. Sounded thin and bleached, not real. I played around, randomly selecting other correction filters, and did find a couple that sounded interesting. But I gave up on real long term critical listening today because my ears are a little blocked, thanks to allergies. (BTW, my standard for what sounds real is regular attendance at classical and acoustic jazz performances for the last 5 years at the Kimmel Center in Philadelphia). So the questions I have for longer term users of Inguz are: are the convolved Test responses a reasonably accurate prediction of the modified room response? Are there any tips from others who have taken a careful look at the test responses to suggest how to interpret them? +---+ |Filename: selected_filter.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2870| +---+ -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] modding digital of squeezebox (boldercables)
jhm731;204748 Wrote: Dealers had TPs before the public release. You might be mistaken on that, I have 3 dealer friends who said they didn't have TP before release. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] First shot at using Inguz
I have not used Inguz DRC, though one of these days I hope to try it out. In the past, I have used equalization to flatten the frequency response in the room, and I did find that it took some listening over time to get used to the flatter response. In my initial A-B tests I liked the uncorrected sound better. After listening to the flatter sound for a few weeks and doing an A-B, I liked the flatter sound better. Your mileage may vary, but you may wish to listen for a few weeks and then see what you think. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] First shot at using Inguz
Mmm, well, I'm willing to give it a try. What struck me, though, was in how the corrected response did not sound real. I have a number of recordings of live performances of the Philadelphia Orchestra - that I was at when they were recorded! - that sound less like I remember through the correction filter. Not to say my uncorrected setup sounds like the live performance either, but it does sound better than the post processed version. -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe I posted a photo of my system a while back but here is one with my new transporter. I am now mainly running the Transporter directly into the balanced inputs of the Bryston 4B ST. If I want to use another source I switch the Bryston to unbalanced and everything runs through the Audio Research SP9. Also pictured is an Adcom CD player and my Thorens TD 321. I also have a wonderful pond full of Koi Carp and I like nothing more than sitting by the fish and listening to music. Pictured here is the SB3 with an old Technics receiver. The second picture is a view of the pond. You should be able to see one of the Bose outdoor speakers. We regularly have some of the greatest bands and orchestra's in our garden. +---+ |Filename: NO11.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2873| +---+ -- RalphO RalphO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Very nice. Love your Audio Research SP9 preamp! -- crooner Customized dual chassis Super Squeezebox EAD DSP-7000 Series III DAC with HDCD and mods. VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Audio Research PH3, SP16L and VS110 Vandersteen 2Ce signatures, 2W subwoofer. crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] First shot at using Inguz
tonyptony;204772 Wrote: Mmm, well, I'm willing to give it a try. What struck me, though, was in how the corrected response did not sound real. I have a number of recordings of live performances of the Philadelphia Orchestra - that I was at when they were recorded! - that sound less like I remember through the correction filter. Not to say my uncorrected setup sounds like the live performance either, but it does sound better than the post processed version. I would second the suggestion to give it some time... I'm now at a point where I can't stand the sound of my system without inguz. After using it for quite a while I've become very attuned to frequency domain distortions, so much so that they really jump out at me on uncorrected systems, or on speakers without very well-adjusted crossovers. I was recently at the HE show here in NYC, and one of the more interesting things I discovered is how incredibly bad a $100,000+ system can sound. A good part of that is a lack of room treatment and correction and a smallish hotel room. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] First shot at using Inguz
I would think a flat targeted response is not going to be nice to listen to. When you make a targeted curve I would suggest a rise in the bass under for instance 100 hz. With a flat targeted curve you will hear no bass at all. I would concentrate on the suckouts and peaks first Your curves are very flat over 160 hz, a bit unsual, how did you do this ? -- Anne Squeezebox 3 Stereovox XV2 Bryston B100-DA SST Martin Logan Aeon I Sennheiser HD580 Precision Anne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] First shot at using Inguz
Not sure, really. That's just how they measured out with the provided sweep signal (I followed the instructions so I'm sure it was done correctly). I do have a very open room architecture, so there may be less interaction as the frequencies get higher. My woofers are also side firing, so there's very little direct radiation to the rear wall. -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vanished
desertrat58;203607 Wrote: The Transporter is simply a wonderful digital source. Period. Agreed - the Vandersteen's faithfully reproduce what is presented by the Transporter (via BK). On that note I should add that the Transporter suits me fine, the price becomes irrelevant once you hear. Nice machine! . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated neighbors. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mark visits Bryston
Bummer...my BP26-DA was being built while you were there. I could have had pictures of it actually being assembled! Cool thread and timely for me! -- thomsens thomsens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1352 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35553 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
