Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Doh! Now we need 24-bit/176.4kHz on the Transporter!
pfarrell;260357 Wrote: Makes sense, as SACD is supposed to be an audiophile format, and thus there is no need for loudness wars. Even Redbook can sound impressive if properly mastered and mixed. True - try any Linn Barb Jungr or Claire Martin CD. The remastered Dire Straits CD sound superb as do all of the Mark Knopfler ones. I agree re 20/24 bit is preferable to 88 vs 192. I never believed that was about preserving high freqs anyway (they just aren't present on old masters) but more about being able to move the filters out of harms way. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41824 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best method codec to get the 1's and 0's off the CD to the hard drive?
MLP is targeted at disc authoring as it has some properties you need on a disc. As reducing burst bitrates on the dvd so the dvd player can cope with it (theres an upper limit in the dvd standard) Alove a 2ch mixdown scheme for the 5.1 track, usually the dvd-a has a 2ch track to, but this options exist. You can somehow calculate the needed discspace and bitrates, and choose to reduce bith depth and sample frequency in less important channels to make a projekt fit the disc. A DVD-A don't need to have the same resolution in all channels, if the producers choose so. I figure most of them have 5*24/96 or 5*24/48 but it figures if you want a lot off extras and it's a long programme. And many more possibilties that I don't fully understand. It's probably not the most practical codec for use on a harddrive. as lossles is lossles, practicalities are all that counts, hence the popularity off FLAC. -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42435 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best method codec to get the 1's and 0's off the CD to the hard drive?
Agree with all the above. EAC in secure mode will get as close as possible - usually 100% - to the original bits from the disk onto your hard drive. Once there we are no longer in the realm of infinite improbability familiar to us audiophiles. We are now - temporarily - in the world of absolute determinism known as computing where only hard, cold logic applies. At this stage bits are truly bits. They are either on or off. They are what they are. When packed by a lossless codec (eg FLAC or whatever) they can be reconstituted with 100% accuracy. If this were not true, computers would not work - period. You would notice rather quickly if there was any indeterminancy in the way the computer reads data from a hard drive or ram... Of course, then we send the data over ethernet to the Squeezebox (still OK, still computing at this point) and eventually we start to turn the bits into an analogue signal at which point the computing stops and odd stuff starts to happen again. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42435 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Transporter into quality external DAC
you can't beat a better source .I'm making the assumption that the transporter dig out is better [more accurate?] than the sb3... but a better dac should sound better than mediocre dac with the same source ...not forgetting the cables connecting will influence the sound. A transporter and good dac will sound better than sbv and cheap dac ...but transporter and cheap dac may be no better than an sb3 with a good dac ! -- zanash Acoustician and builder of interesting cables zanash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42392 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best method codec to get the 1's and 0's off the CD to the hard drive?
How do you do it? EAC rip (secure mode), FLAC encoder. If there was a problem with this, someone would have noticed by now ;) -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42435 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 mediocre sound quality
crooner, that wins ,IMHO, the coolest looking mod contest hands down. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42388 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best method codec to get the 1's and 0's off the CD to the hard drive?
I use Max with cdParanoia in my Mac, and my preferred lossless format is ALAC (Apple Lossless) which in reality is stored as an MP4 (.m4a) but I also have some FLAC files which I havent bothered to convert to ALAC since they sound the same. Im not sure if Max with cdParanoia is as good as EAC but I believe its the best we Mac users have. -- GuyDebord Reference 3A Royal Master monitors biwired with van den Hul Inspiration, REL Strata 5 sub. AMP: Pathos Classic One MKIII. ANALOGUE: Michell Gyro SE, Technoarm Lyra Helikon SL, ASR Mini Basis SQ phono preamp, link: WireWorld Silver Eclipse 5.2. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: Acoustic Zen Silver Reference2 XLRs. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Transporter), van den Hul Mainstream (Pathos) van den Hul Mainserver (ASR). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42435 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Doh! Now we need 24-bit/176.4kHz on the Transporter!
Phil Leigh;260378 Wrote: I never believed that was about preserving high freqs anyway I thought that 96/192 was more about the filters and their influences (aliasing, pre/post ringing , impulse response, etc) than high freqs. -- alekz alekz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41824 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Doh! Now we need 24-bit/176.4kHz on the Transporter!
alekz;260470 Wrote: I thought that 96/192 was more about the filters and their influences (aliasing, pre/post ringing , impulse response, etc) than high freqs. ...erm, that's what I said! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41824 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WFMT Chicago URL
Looking for a working link to KFMT in Chicago. I subscribed to the WFMT stream. When I log in, I can access a WinAmp or Real stream that will play on my computer after a brief membership announcement. However, when I copy the .pls or .ram URL, paste into SqueezeNetwork, and play through the SB, the membership announcement loops infinitely and the program material never starts. The link is https://www.wfmt.com/res/streaming/live/wfmtmp3stream.pls. I get the same result by removing the s from https. Any ideas? -- Ralph 411 Ralph 411's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12741 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42459 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Doh! Now we need 24-bit/176.4kHz on the Transporter!
Phil Leigh;260475 Wrote: ...erm, that's what I said! Oh ... but more about being able to move the filters out of harms way disappeared somehow... Obviously my fault. Then I 100% agree ;-) -- alekz alekz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41824 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best method codec to get the 1's and 0's off the CD to the hard drive?
GuyDebord;260409 Wrote: I use Max with cdParanoia in my Mac, and my preferred lossless format is ALAC (Apple Lossless) which in reality is stored as an MP4 (.m4a) but I also have some FLAC files which I havent bothered to convert to ALAC since they sound the same. Im not sure if Max with cdParanoia is as good as EAC but I believe its the best we Mac users have. I am sure you know of this options, but for those that don't, I have been using EAC with AccurateRip on my Mac under VMWare Fusion and it works flawlessly. -- Apparition Apparition's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14825 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42435 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 mediocre sound quality
tomjtx;260399 Wrote: crooner, that wins ,IMHO, the coolest looking mod contest hands down. Thanks Tom! Much appreciated. I've been running the Super Squeezebox since May (how time flies!) and I'm continuously marveling on how good it sounds. Can't wait to add that Jive remote!! -- crooner Customized dual chassis Super Squeezebox EAD DSP-7000 Series III DAC with HDCD and mods. VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Marantz 10B tube FM tuner Audio Research PH3, SP16L and VS110 Vandersteen 2Ce signatures, 2W subwoofer. crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42388 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 mediocre sound quality
crooner;260522 Wrote: Thanks Tom! Much appreciated. I've been running the Super Squeezebox since last May (how time flies!) and I'm continuously marveling on how good it sounds. Can't wait to add that Jive remote, or perhaps I should say the Controller:-) Agreed it looks to be an amazing bit of kit. Is there a link or page to cover your project/mods? -- twylie Thecus N5200 - transporter - Krell KRC2 - nuforce 8b - Sonus Faber Concertos / Audio Physic Sparks twylie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=956 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42388 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 mediocre sound quality
I used to think only speakers and headphones needed burning in (which I've seen many times) but something happened recently which has surprised me. On plugging in my new SB3 a few months back I was pretty disappointed with the sound when compared to my Creek Evo cd player. From then on I played it through a Moodlabs Concept DAC, which was only slightly better. A couple of days ago I tried the SB3 again without the DAC and couldn't believe the difference! Again I compared it to my Creek cd player and I could hardly tell the difference!!! If I listened very hard I could tell that the Creek was better, but the difference was pretty small. The only explanation I can find is that the SB3 needed to be burned in to give it's best. The transformation is amazing. It's gone from being mediocre to a pretty damn good source, comparable to a cd player costing over twice as much. I even posted on these forums about the crappy sound - now I have to eat my words! I've discarded my plans to audition a Benchmark DAC. In my current system I think the SB3 is good enough. -- russelk SB3 -- Moodlab Concept DAC -- Creek Evo amp -- Quad 12L speakers russelk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12795 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42388 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best method codec to get the 1's and 0's off the CD to the hard drive?
Apparition;260502 Wrote: I am sure you know of this options, but for those that don't, I have been using EAC with AccurateRip on my Mac under VMWare Fusion and it works flawlessly. Could you please detail more on how you get EAC to work? under mac os? thank you very much in advance. -- GuyDebord Reference 3A Royal Master monitors biwired with van den Hul Inspiration, REL Strata 5 sub. AMP: Pathos Classic One MKIII. ANALOGUE: Michell Gyro SE, Technoarm Lyra Helikon SL, ASR Mini Basis SQ phono preamp, link: WireWorld Silver Eclipse 5.2. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: Acoustic Zen Silver Reference2 XLRs. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Transporter), van den Hul Mainstream (Pathos) van den Hul Mainserver (ASR). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42435 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best method codec to get the 1's and 0's off the CD to the hard drive?
Mark Lanctot;260500 Wrote: Now, if AccurateRip says that someone else got the exact same checksum, even one other person, it says that this other person got EVERY ONE of the 681 609 952 bits identical to me. If JUST ONE of those SIX HUNDRED EIGHTY ONE MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO bits were off, there would be no match. And the odds of us having the -exact- same error in those hundreds of millions of bits are infinitesimally small. Just to nit-pick this slightly.. This is only true for a perfect hash method, which of course can't exist.. but most hashes are good enough for this to be true. The probability of 2 same length data collisions for something good like MD5 or SHA1/2 is VERY low, so low it's only worth mentioning for nit-picking forum posts, and not practical application. ;-) -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42435 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter won't power on?
I have a transporter that's been in it's box for the last three months. I plugged it in last night and it powered up to the Logictech logos at which point I turned it off. Today I can't get it to turn on at all. Have unplugged it for a minute in an attempt to force a reset, but still can't get it to turn on (using either the front power button or the remote button). Anybody have an idea about what might be wrong other than I've got a hardware problem? Searching the archives hasn't helped so far, but it's certainly possible that I've missed a relevant post. Tom -- tconrad tconrad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5989 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42473 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Music File Protection
How do you run flac -test? My PC is running Windows Vista. Do I need to run it from a DOS shell? Are there any other programs I should look at for checking my FLAC files? I also have some MP3 files. Is there anything for checking MP3 files? I have about 29,000 tracks stored on a 750Gb hard drive. I also have 3 additional 750Gb hard drives in USB enclosures which I use to backup of my music files. 1 is kept off site. I would hate for the music on my backup drives to become corupted and then be unable to restore it if/when my main music drive fails. Windows Vista and all my other applications are on a separate hard drive to the music, so if Windows corupts itself, I do not loose my music. I use SyncBackSE to backup my music files, using the syncronise option, but I have it configured to tell me what it is going to delete and copy before it does it. This appears to work well for me. Any advice? -- norderney Transporter (Black) - Arcam A85 Amp - BW CDM1NT Speakers - Yamaha CDRHD1500 Recorder norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42358 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 mediocre sound quality
twylie;260539 Wrote: Agreed it looks to be an amazing bit of kit. Is there a link or page to cover your project/mods? Check the archives for the original Super Squeezebox thread back in May of '07. Google also gives hits of my threads in other audio forums. There's even a couple of videos of my Super Squeezebox on YouTube!! Would have loved to produce this thing commercially, but it wouldn't be cheap. I'd probably end up losing money. Call it the Marantz 10B of streaming network players!! -- crooner Customized dual chassis Super Squeezebox EAD DSP-7000 Series III DAC with HDCD and mods. VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Marantz 10B tube FM tuner Audio Research PH3, SP16L and VS110 Vandersteen 2Ce signatures, 2W subwoofer. crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42388 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 mediocre sound quality
andy_c;260369 Wrote: A better article on capacitor nonlinearities is by Cyril Bateman in Electronics World. I could not find the series, but found this summary instead: http://diyhifi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13t=388 and here's what he found. I give a random selection of quotations, but before doing so I give his most fundamental finding, which is that drum roll dielectric absorption is the primary factor producing *easily measurable* capacitor distortion. Alas, the golden ears have known this for years without resort to or the need for measurements, but how nice now to have measured results now saying so, especially from a once-capacitor design engineer who had to reverse his long held view (scientific, no doubt, especially when imposed on others) that capacitors are not much different one from another and that DA has little to do with AC-coupling signal integrity etc. -- alekz alekz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42388 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter won't power on?
I hate to say it, but it sounds similar to what happened to mine... Turned out the supply for the displays had died, and I had to ship it back for repairs. Dave -- DCtoDaylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42473 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Music File Protection
norderney;260596 Wrote: How do you run flac -test? My PC is running Windows Vista. Do I need to run it from a DOS shell? There's a Windows GUI program packaged with the latest FLAC installer program for Windows; just look in the FLAC program groups it makes. Run the FLAC tester, then browse to a tree which contains FLAC files or a hierarcy of subdirectories with FLAC files. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42358 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
