Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!

2008-01-24 Thread morris_minor

GuyDebord;261753 Wrote: 
 Sadly, all of this talks about Us and the sick and abusive industry we
 support. If this direct attack on the stupidity of many audiophiles
 can't detract people from this forum to stop believing in 50 dollar
 ethernet cables, what can we expect about the future of this hobby?
 more 15,000 Euro interconnects? more magic pebbles? and all for the
 gullibility of the demanding consumer. This type of websites should
 awaken the stupid and create an awareness about the wrong turn of the
 industry, if this doesnt do it, what will?
 
 We are all victims in one way or another, its just the extent of
 endless dissatisfaction that is growing; thanks to the massive
 marketing strategies, this form of mind control will for sure
 perpetuate...

I have to admit I started this thread for a bit of a laugh, knowing
that a great many people in these forums share my scepticsm (and even
contempt) for anything approaching snake oil. But Guy's observations
about the future are really quite worrying, and there is a danger that
people like us (who like good quality sound systems, at whatever
price level we can afford) will get tarred with the loony brush by
those not in the know who assume that all audiophiles share the same
wacky beliefs.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 192-320 kbps mp3s vs. FLAC on SB3 w/o Upgrades

2008-01-24 Thread Robin Bowes
Gibson78 wrote:
 Opinions are solicited on whether streaming uncompressed files into an
 SB3 fed via its analog outs into an Onkyo A-9555 2 channel amp into a
 pair of Aperion 633-T tower speakers (all budget but good stereo stuff)
 would really sound different than, say, 320 kbps mp3s.  My guess (and I
 will experiment myself, but I'd like to hear thoughts)is that you can't
 tell the difference.
 
 Thoughts?

They're your ears.

What you hear and what someone else hears will be completely different.

R.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lushness!

2008-01-24 Thread egd

morris_minor;261993 Wrote: 
 ...Guy's observations about the future are really quite worrying, and
 there is a danger that people like us (who like good quality sound
 systems, at whatever price level we can afford) will get tarred with
 the loony brush by those not in the know who assume that all
 audiophiles share the same wacky beliefs.Why worry, so long as you are 
 enjoying your music, who cares what others
think?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2008-01-24 Thread Ejorne

Omega 


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 192-320 kbps mp3s vs. FLAC on SB3 w/o Upgrades

2008-01-24 Thread opaqueice

Gibson78;261974 Wrote: 
 Opinions are solicited on whether streaming uncompressed files into an
 SB3 fed via its analog outs into an Onkyo A-9555 2 channel amp into a
 pair of Aperion 633-T tower speakers (all budget but good stereo stuff)
 would really sound different than, say, 320 kbps mp3s.  My guess (and I
 will experiment myself, but I'd like to hear thoughts)is that you can't
 tell the difference.
 
 Thoughts?

It's pretty tough to tell the difference between 320 MP3 and
uncompressed on any gear.  In my experience being able to do so has
much more to do with knowing what MP3 compression artifacts sound like
and choosing passages the encoder has difficulty with than anything
else.

But why would you want to do that anyway?  Lossless is a much better
choice for many reasons.  For example, you might want transcode down to
a smaller size for use with a portable player.  Doing that starting from
MP3 is a very bad idea.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] lust object speakers

2008-01-24 Thread adamslim

I just got me some Living Voice OBX-R2s, so as far as I can see it's job
done on the speaker front for a decade!

http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/livingvoice/avatar.html

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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] no sound from Transporter

2008-01-24 Thread Shredder

UGH.

Got my new TP yesterday. Removed my cdp, which had been working fine,
and hooked the TP up to my mono power amps' unbalanced inputs (no
pre-amp used) w/RCA ics into the TPs unbalanced analog outputs(will
switch to balanced soon). 

Setup went smoothly. I have a Squeezebox already and know my way around
SD players, SS, and my network. SB3 and network work perfectly, as
does/did my stereo.

The TP streams/plays properly. I select music and the VU meters move,
remaining time changes, and songs change. However, no sound comes out
of the speakers.

I have tried everything I could think of to get the thing to play
music. I checked the connections on my ics both to the amps and the TP,
I turned everything on and off, I checked the TP settings in SS, I
called a techie friend who owns a TP, I adjusted the volume, etc. I
even plugged a pre-amp back into the system to see if that was the
issue. Still, no sound.

The box appears to be functional, so I am assuming I just have a
setting wrong somewhere.

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions about resolving this, I would
greatly appreciate it.

Thanks much.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] no sound from Transporter

2008-01-24 Thread igroucho

Settings Choose Outputs Analog RCA??


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] no sound from Transporter

2008-01-24 Thread Shredder

Thanks. I think that's what I did, but I will check.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker Trouble--Spica TC-50s

2008-01-24 Thread dadster

Yes, Gordon sorry, so aside from having to modify the cabinet a bit, it
sounds like you were happy using the Madisound tweeter with the TC-50is
- this is good to know!

Spica used a specific model of tweeter used in the 50 and a different
on the 50i. The one Madisound sells isn't one of those, and the same
tweeter presumably wouldn't work well both places. Spica changed
tweeter models because production issues with the woofer used in the
50, made them move to a new model, used in what was dubbed as the 50i
(BTW - TC-50is are not marked as such, you can only tell by the square
tweeter hole, although the change took place about s/n 7500)

Now to shift gears a bit, Spica did closely match components, they
measured each cap, resistor, etc and the woofers response curves were
individually characterized (see service codes) make certain that the
left and right were matched. However, this was not true for the
tweeters. Tweeters had enough uniformity that individual matching
wasn't necessary within a given model.

please reference: 
Spica Drivers: http://spicaspeakers.com/repair/spica-drivers.php
Service Codes: http://spicaspeakers.com/repair/spica-service-codes.php


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2008-01-24 Thread seanadams

Enough with this.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 192-320 kbps mp3s vs. FLAC on SB3 w/o Upgrades

2008-01-24 Thread tomjtx

opaqueice;262052 Wrote: 
 It's pretty tough to tell the difference between 320 MP3 and
 uncompressed on any gear.  In my experience being able to do so has
 much more to do with knowing what MP3 compression artifacts sound like
 and choosing passages the encoder has difficulty with than anything
 else.
 
 But why would you want to do that anyway?  Lossless is a much better
 choice for many reasons.  For example, you might want transcode down to
 a smaller size for use with a portable player.  Doing that starting from
 MP3 is a very bad idea.

X2. Also, hard drive space is SO cheap now it makes no sense not to use
FLAC or ALAC. An external 500gig usb2 HD can be had for 100.00 or less.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best method codec to get the 1's and 0's off the CD to the hard drive?

2008-01-24 Thread pablolie

opaqueice;261941 Wrote: 
 I don't think I paid more than $30 for either of mine.  They've each
 ripped maybe 600 discs, with no problems so far.

I prefer to use external drives simply because it saves me the hassle
of dealing with opening and closing the computer, and the good ones (we
mentioned Plextor) go for $120+.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] lust object speakers

2008-01-24 Thread selfdivider

haraldo;261912 Wrote: 
 When thinking more closely
 
 The Vienna Acoustics Mahler!!!
 
 It's been a while since I listened to those speakers. The last time I
 auditioned them was with the Electrocompaniet Nemo blocks. Yes,
 that's the huge bridged mono blocks that's absolutely impossible to
 drive into clipping.
 
 I played Underworld so loud that I thought I was going to have a heart
 attack, the midrange from the techno seemed to interfere with my heart
 rhythm... And it all sounded fantastic with no distortion and just
 unbelievably musicality... I never ever heard techno this way since
 that point in time, a moment in life that I will always remember :-))
 
 Then... Tori Amos, Little Earthquakes, and the speakers responded with
 such a presentation of her gentle voice that I could swear that I could
 stretch out an arm and touch her
 Just magic!
 
 Geeez, and the speakers look fantastic :-D
 
 -H

I read in the new issue of TAS that Vienna Acoustics will have a
spanking new Reference Line. I can only imagine what they'd sound like,
considering how the Mahler, Beethoven  Mozart sound so good already!
Drool


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best method codec to get the 1's and 0's off the CD to the hard drive?

2008-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh

I'd agree with the idea that (these days) buying expensive drives is
unnecessary. Buy cheap ones and replace as required.
...rather like any computer component, actually. The only part really
worth investing in is the case!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker Trouble--Spica TC-50s

2008-01-24 Thread DMR NYC

dadster;262095 Wrote: 
 Yes, Gordon sorry, so aside from having to modify the cabinet a bit, it
 sounds like you were happy using the Madisound tweeter with the TC-50is
 - this is good to know!
 
 Spica used a specific model of tweeter used in the 50 and a different
 on the 50i. The one Madisound sells isn't one of those, and the same
 tweeter presumably wouldn't work well both places. Spica changed
 tweeter models because production issues with the woofer used in the
 50, made them move to a new model, used in what was dubbed as the 50i
 (BTW - TC-50is are not marked as such, you can only tell by the square
 tweeter hole, although the change took place about s/n 7500)
 
 Now to shift gears a bit, Spica did closely match components, they
 measured each cap, resistor, etc and the woofers response curves were
 individually characterized (see service codes) make certain that the
 left and right were matched. However, this was not true for the
 tweeters. Tweeters had enough uniformity that individual matching
 wasn't necessary within a given model.
 
 please reference: 
 Spica Drivers: http://spicaspeakers.com/repair/spica-drivers.php
 Service Codes: http://spicaspeakers.com/repair/spica-service-codes.php

The only information I have left is a bottom portion of the serial
number, which seems to be either 13125 or 13725 with a B'
afterward, and a service code of H3.9-12.

Can I tell from this information whether these are 50s or 50i's? (My
recollection is that they are probably the former, but it's been too
long to be certain.)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coax Digital Out problems

2008-01-24 Thread smarco

seanadams;259780 Wrote: 
 Proper fix is coming for this.

seanadams,
Is the fix going to be applied only to SC7 or 6.5.x too? We are not
sure yet if stand-alone network servers like my QNAP can handle SC7 or
when it's available even if they can. Or maybe some users prefer 6.5.x
for some reasons. So, I hope the fix be available for both sc7 and
6.5.x. Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker Trouble--Spica TC-50s

2008-01-24 Thread dadster

The shift from 50 to 50i was about s/n 7500. With 13,000 series numbers
you definately have 50i's. The felt hole surrounting the tweeter should
also be square (early 50s were rectangular)


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