Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why Reclock If Using Low Jitter DAC

2009-05-30 Thread Phil Leigh

NewBuyer;427826 Wrote: 
 
 
 But if your taste is that you think it sounds subjectively better,
 than obviously you should buy it and enjoy it!  

I agree with Newbuyer, but I'd point out that an A/B dealer demo is
absolutely the worst method of choosing (top-end) gear. You need an
extended home demo. Our brains and our senses  are tuned to identify
tiny differences - that's what kept the species alive to-date.
Difference!=better. Difference=different. You can easily detect
differences in an A/B of some gear. Only by living with the gear over
time can you decide if it really is better to your taste.


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SB3 (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download

2009-05-30 Thread Labarum

I have tried a few 24/96 downloads, including one I paid for from 

http://www.gimell.com/catalogue.aspx?filter=Studio+Master

My best 16/44.1 rips from CD are as good.

As noted before, more depends on the quality of the work by musicians
and sound engineers than on the potential technical differences between,
24 and 16 bit sources.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter for Hi Bit Radio Streams

2009-05-30 Thread Labarum

Among those who claim a Transporter betters an SB3 + External DAC, do
any of you judge it makes a better job of Hi Bit Radio Streams?

I find myself listening to these more and more.

At this present moment

AVRO Klassiek Beste NL MP3 256

but here is my list

Bartók Rádió (Hungary)
http://212.92.28.75:2008/
MP3 at 320kbps

AVRO Klassiek Beste NL MP3 256
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s55517Formats=mp3,wma,realusername=sampletimePartnerId=16


BBC R3 WMA 128
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/wm_asx/aod/radio3.asx 

Venice Classic MP3 128
http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=4975filename=playlist.pls


D-dur (Czech Republic)
http://www.rozhlas.cz/audio/download/ddur_maxogg.m3u
OGG at 224kbps

Vltava (Czech Republic)
http://radio.cesnet.cz/cgi-bin/cro3-256-ogg.pls
OGG at 224kbps

Devín (Slovakia)
http://live.slovakradio.sk:8000/Devin_256.ogg
OGG at 256kbps

NRK Alltid Klassisk (Norway)
http://media.hiof.no/streams/m3u/nrk...sk-172.ogg.m3u
OGG at 172kbps

Radio 4 (Netherlands)
http://shoutcast.omroep.nl:8106/listen.pls
MP3 at 192kbps

Baroque Ottawa MP3 128
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s65422Formats=mp3,wma,realusername=sampletimePartnerId=16


Classical Quebec MP3 128
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s96897Formats=mp3,wma,realusername=sampletimePartnerId=16


Radio Swiss Classic MP3 128
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s25582Formats=mp3,wma,realusername=sampletimePartnerId=16


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] USB to Optical adaptor

2009-05-30 Thread funkstar

Phileas;427947 Wrote: 
 Or a Benchmark DAC1-USB, or a different soundcard, or just not worry
 about it as the background noise from the PC is probably doing more to
 'spoil' the sound.
I don't see how background noice in a PC is going to affect an external
sound card, especially when we are talking about the digita output of
said soundcard.


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*1*x boom
*2*x controller, *1*x receiver
*2*x sb3 (sliver/black, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black)
*1*x slimp3 (with rear shield)

interested in any others if you have them!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download

2009-05-30 Thread Mike69

DanH;427817 Wrote: 
 You can get them from HDtracks and Linn records. That is the main reason
 I would buy a transporter. Crutchfield has a deal right now for 1800 you
 get a transporter and a squeezebox controller. It is very tempting. I
 just wish I knew if you can hear a difference in higher sample rate
 audio.

I have tried some of the special event recordings from Blue Coast
Records - they sound excellent to me.
http://bluecoastrecords.com/


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] USB to Optical adaptor

2009-05-30 Thread Phileas

funkstar;427959 Wrote: 
 I don't see how background noice in a PC is going to affect an external
 sound card, especially when we are talking about the digita output of
 said soundcard.

I mean the ambient sound of the fans etc. masking low level sounds from
speakers/headphones.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download

2009-05-30 Thread kesey

Do you want to hear some Hi-res magic? Try
http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html

Download the DXD 24BIT/352.8kHz versions, as well as the 24BIT/96kHz
Flac files. You can play the DXD tracks with Windows Media Player 12
(comes with Windows 7 RC). 

Gorgeous stuff, and a good introduction to 2L.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download

2009-05-30 Thread bhaagensen

kesey;427982 Wrote: 
 
 Download the DXD 24BIT/352.8kHz versions, as well as the 24BIT/96kHz
 Flac files. You can play the DXD tracks with Windows Media Player 12
 (comes with Windows 7 RC). 
 
 Gorgeous stuff, and a good introduction to 2L.

I know some of those tracks in 24/96, and I'm sure also these are good.
But the sampling rate of the DXD tracks is just ridiculous. There is no
reason to sample at 352. Almost all the arguments for using, say, 24/96
over 16/44 are no longer valid in the case of 24/352 over 24/96.
Moreover Lavry's paper on digital sampling makes it clear that its not
technically possible to utilise all bits and samples in 24/352. Sample
at 352 and loose bit-precision.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download

2009-05-30 Thread kesey

bhaagensen;428020 Wrote: 
 I know some of those tracks in 24/96, and I'm sure also these are good.
 But the sampling rate of the DXD tracks is just ridiculous. There is no
 reason to sample at 352. Almost all the arguments for using, say, 24/96
 over 16/44 are no longer valid in the case of 24/352 over 24/96.
 Moreover Lavry's paper on digital sampling makes it clear that its not
 technically possible to utilise all bits and samples in 24/352. Sample
 at 352 and loose bit-precision.

No doubt you are perfectly correct, but the music still sounds lovely -
and it was free. It is there to be downloaded and tried if you wish. If
you don't, then there's no cause for a coronary, or a world wide ban. 2L
has some excellent stuff. I tend to take the view that if they wish to
make it available, good for them. I enjoyed the tracks; admittedly not
over my sound system: just over my computer speakers. To tell you the
truth, I've also often enjoyed music played over my kitchen radio,
ridiculous though that might be also. I'll get over it. 

The 24/96 tracks I played via my Squeezebox 3 through my Nautilus 802s.
Strangely I enjoyed them also, even though the music is downsampled by
Squeezecenter/Sox.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download

2009-05-30 Thread DCtoDaylight

bhaagensen;428020 Wrote: 
 But the sampling rate of the DXD tracks is just ridiculous. There is no
 reason to sample at 352. Almost all the arguments for using, say, 24/96
 over 16/44 are no longer valid in the case of 24/352 over 24/96.
 Moreover Lavry's paper on digital sampling makes it clear that its not
 technically possible to utilise all bits and samples in 24/352. Sample
 at 352 and loose bit-precision.

Sorry, but can you provide a link to the Lavry paper?  I can't imagine
why it's not technically possible to utilize all the data.  It may not
be worthwhile, or economically challenging, but I'm not aware of any
reason why it's not technically possible

FWIW, I agree that the sampling rates of the DXD tracks are insane, but
if the hardware is available, why not use it in the recording/mastering
phases of production?  The only downside of the higher precession is
higher cost

Cheers, Dave


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone tried a 96k 24 bit download

2009-05-30 Thread Mnyb

Try

http://www.itrax.com/

They have some good recordings from AIX , he has basically recycled the
recordings made for DVD-A as Hirez downloads.

http://www.aix.com


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