Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] just got new transporter, very disappointed with sound

2009-08-08 Thread Phil Leigh

dizzysnakepilot;446745 Wrote: 
 where do i find this by volume option?  i looked for in the setup menu
 to no avail.

Player - Audio Settings in the Web UI


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] just got new transporter, very disappointed with sound

2009-08-08 Thread radish

earwaxer;446765 Wrote: 
 I tend to think that the programmers put a defeat button in because it
 offered something more than what you would get at %100. Being a
 programmer myself - I would not code something that did nothing! The
 only other logical use for the defeat selection is to idiot proof the
 volume control, so that it is not accidentally decreased. That doesn't
 sound very flattering for a device aimed at the audiophile!

Read the text, it doesn't day anything about defeating anything, it
says Output level is fixed at 100% - all it does is lock the volume
control. The feature was added because people were using other devices
(i.e. the amp) to control volume and didn't want someone accidentally
turning down the source volume. I'm sure we can dig out the forum thread
from a few years ago when it was discussed if you really want.

Back in the day I had an old Marantz CD80 which had a remote control
with volume buttons on it (quite unusual for a CDP). On the back there
were two sets of outputs - one was fixed at 100% and the other variable.
I didn't feel unflattered :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] just got new transporter, very disappointed with sound

2009-08-08 Thread sebp

radish;446904 Wrote: 
 Read the text, it doesn't day anything about defeating anything, it
 says Output level is fixed at 100% - all it does is lock the volume
 control. The feature was added because people were using other devices
 (i.e. the amp) to control volume and didn't want someone accidentally
 turning down the source volume. I'm sure we can dig out the forum thread
 from a few years ago when it was discussed if you really want.
Fine. But how do you explain I - and other people, including most SB
owners I know - -do- hear significant differences between 100% fixed vs
100% variable?
Would all of us suffer from severe audiophilia?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] just got new transporter, very disappointed with sound

2009-08-08 Thread Veggen

Yes.

According to Sean Adams, the designer of these boxes, 100% variable and
100% fixed is identical. No difference in how the signal is processed.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to switch to different input (digital)

2009-08-08 Thread htsource

Just got a transporter, trying to figure out how to switch to digital
coax and optical and using it as DAC, but can't figure it out.  Can't
find the menu to do that?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] just got new transporter, very disappointed with sound

2009-08-08 Thread earwaxer

Curious as to how the sound of your NuForce compares with your t-amp? I
know the NuForce is hugely more powerfull but what about microdynamics
and musicality at lower volumes? - thanks much!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] just got new transporter, very disappointed with sound

2009-08-08 Thread earwaxer

It would be cool if Sean could explain how the volume control still
works when it is bypassed - the volume level changes on the player
screen and in squeezecenter but it seems to be out of the circuit - it
has no effect. If the volume was just fixed at %100 I would think that
the effect of trying to change the volume would have no effect on the
volume graphic. Maybe a Transporter programmer could weigh in on this
one!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] just got new transporter, very disappointed with sound

2009-08-08 Thread peterw

earwaxer;446765 Wrote: 
 I tend to think that the programmers put a defeat button in because it
 offered something more than what you would get at %100.

One thing more that this option provides:  plugins like Chris' Denon
AVP TCP control and my Denon RS232 serial control can allow Squeezebox
Controller, IR, Web, and button control to affect the *amp* volume, and
have the Squeezebox displays (web, VFD, Controller) show the *amp*
volume while the Logitech gear is fixed at full output level.



I've been too lazy to test, but might it be that ReplayGain is handled
differently at fixed output? If fixed applied no RG, in most cases
that'd mean a number of dB of extra volume (negative RG not applied),
and louder always sounds better, right?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] just got new transporter, very disappointed with sound

2009-08-08 Thread peterw

earwaxer;447067 Wrote: 
 It would be cool if Sean could explain how the volume control still
 works when it is bypassed - the volume level changes on the player
 screen and in squeezecenter but it seems to be out of the circuit

See my post. I don't know if it was the intention, but this fictional
volume behavior makes it very nice for controlling the volume on amps
that feature RS232 or Ethernet/TCPIP control options. If you read the
Perl source, I believe the difference is merely that when output is
fixed, Squeezecenter doesn't send SlimProto volume commands to the
player when the volume changes. 

If the fictional volume bugs you, install my VolumeLock plugin and
lock the fictional volume at 100%.


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