Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio DiffMaker crash
diffmaker only compares files with identical sample rates and bitdepth -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80906 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio DiffMaker crash
Phil Leigh;566479 Wrote: diffmaker only compares files with identical sample rates and bitdepth Yes? Although I see it did something.. I uploaded these two samples here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/v9fbie How can I compare these? Convert the 16bit file in Audacity to 24bit? Use r8brain instead? What is the best? -- michael123 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80906 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Transporter for �999 in the UK direct from Logitech
Hi, For info, the Transporter is currently on offer in the UK for £999 through the Logitech website (www.logitech.co.uk). Just use offer code WVOH999 and they take £800 from the £1799 list price. Shipping is free. Mine arrived yesterday :-) Apparently the offer is good to 23 August 2010, or while stocks last. Enjoy. Nomis -- Nomis Nomis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39320 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80918 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio DiffMaker crash
michael123;566487 Wrote: Yes? Although I see it did something.. I uploaded these two samples here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/v9fbie How can I compare these? Convert the 16bit file in Audacity to 24bit? Use r8brain instead? What is the best? I don't know what operating system you are using, but if Windows, I'd use Audacity to change the 16 bit version to 24 bit first BUT: Remember that the way Diffmaker works is by mathematically comparing the sample values... so a 16-bit and a 24-bit file are completely different as far as diffmaker is concerned. Even if you change the 16 bit file to 24 bit (which simply adds 8 zero bits) the files are still completely different as far as diffmaker is concerned. What are you trying to detect in the comparison? - Diffmaker is designed to compare things that are supposed to be similar, not things that are supposed to be very different. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80906 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio DiffMaker crash
I would like to see the spectrum of the difference At the moment, when I took the resulting file and open it in Audacity, 'Sound Finder' does not find anything! weird -- michael123 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80906 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: Transporter for �999 in the UK direct from Logitech
wow.. it means final sale :( -- michael123 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80918 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?
Has your Cat6 cable turned up yet Gaz ? Which position does it sound best in; PC to router, or router to Touch ? Chris ;) -- Stratmangler There is no element of personal attack in my response. Stratmangler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?
Gazjam;566216 Wrote: See you use JPS labs power cables... yeah, Id call you crazy.;) JPS indeed produce some crazy power cords that may fit nicely for nuclear reactors -- michael123 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?
Stratmangler;566532 Wrote: Has your Cat6 cable turned up yet Gaz ? Which position does it sound best in; PC to router, or router to Touch ? Chris ;) Hey Chris, Cat6a turned up, quite a bit thicker that cat5.. I run my Touch from an access point in the listening room which is connected by 15m of cat5 to my server in the Study. So the cat6a cable sits between the router and the Touch.* *this is how the Audiophile mods suggest you have your Touch set up for best effect, using unscreened cat6a. Does it make a difference...? Uhm, as I cant measure it I'm not putting my neck on the line here...know what I mean? But If your Touch is set up like mine, can I sugget you do what I did and fit some UTP Cat6a between router and Touch. Thats all I'm saying. :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?
Not at all, it's copy-and-pasted from a completely unrelated script...the hyphen in that case would go last, not in the middle. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?
I am a bit confused. Are you saying your line works? Lookup the man pages for sox 14.3.0. The effects, such as rate are last. Quote man pages: -- Examples: sox input.wav -b 16 output.wav rate -s -a 44100 dither -s - output.wav would have to be replaced with a hyphen. Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?
I suspect that the Touch CPU won't have enough power to upsample when it is running the TinySB server. Are you sure it didn't work (i.e. check the log with player.source set to DEBUG) or is it possible the CPU couldn't generate a stream fast enough to play ? You should read this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 as it mentions Touch, soz and resampling (albeit to 192) -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?
soundcheck;566592 Wrote: I am a bit confused. Are you saying your line works? Yes, but not in SqueezeCenter. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?
bpa;566594 Wrote: I suspect that the Touch CPU won't have enough power to upsample when it is running the TinySB server. Are you sure it didn't work (i.e. check the log with player.source set to DEBUG) or is it possible the CPU couldn't generate a stream fast enough to play ? You should read this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 as it mentions Touch, soz and resampling (albeit to 192) I am running sox on a central server feeding the Touch. log [10-08-04 18:34:12.0795] Slim::Player::Song::open (407) Error: Couldn't create command line for wav playback for [file:///media/media/music/Allan_Taylor-Colour_to_the_Moon-2000/12-Al What do I have to turn on exactly for debugging? -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?
I misunderstood I thought your were using Touch to resample. To use a SBS server - then look at this thread. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69454 To debug use WebUI Setting/Advanced/Loggin and set player.source to DEBUG and the click apply. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Confused between options - any advice welcome
PLynas;560411 Wrote: The main problem I have is that the setup is just a little too laid back and lifeless, even more so when not on loud. There's no real impact there. Also (obviously really) there is a bit of bass pwer and definition lacking and instruments that are not at the forefront of the mix are a bit lost. This description brings several things to mind in terms of problem solving. 1. Cables - you dont need to spend a lot - you need heavy gauge SOLID CORE OFC for the speakers, try as much silver as you can afford on the interconnects. 2. If you are going wireless to the squeezebox, try wired (ethernet). 3. I would be willing to bet that another factor is jitter (timing). If you are using SPDIF (coax) get a good digital cable. Again - doesnt have to be expensive, but from a good cable manufacturer (ex. The Cable Company). 4. Take a look at your connectors. I personally ditch the speaker and amp connectors and go with direct wire to wire. I even replaced the speaker jumpers in my amp with pure silver (about $5 worth). Cheap and very effective. I cant say enough about hacking cheap crap wires out of your system. You can buy great pure silver solid core wire at Homegrown Audio. I'm not saying you will transform your frog into a prince! It might not make a ton of difference in a low resolving system, but its fun to hack around, and if you screw something up you aren't out a ton of money! Enjoy - dont be afraid! -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable. earwaxer9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80289 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?
Gazjam;566216 Wrote: See you use JPS labs power cables... yeah, Id call you crazy.;) As you will see - I'm not as crazy as you may think! Ok - so I got their digital cable - one the more affordable JPS offerings. I did notice some improvement in focus and lack of what I would say is background to the music. Not huge. But significant. I still think it was a good investment in sound. I will say that the Hi-Fi Tuning fuse I put in the Transporter had a much bigger bang for the buck at $30 a pop. The thing about a power cable is - you buy it once. Thats it. I dont second guess the cable stuff. I still have the same old Audioquest Granite speaker cables and I will never replace them. Still have the same old Silver Audio interconnect. Not because they are that fantastic. I just don't believe in focusing on cable unless you are really certifiably crazy with a lot of dough! So - I'm not really THAT crazy. I also dont have a lot of dough! -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable. earwaxer9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?
I have been experimenting with dbpoweramp converting CD's to 24/96. As I have discussed in other posts, I really like the sound of the upsampled 16/44.8 to 24/96 through the Transporter! I mean, I'm really happy! I can even tell the difference in sound from other rooms in the house. It comes close to that live sound. Especially in the bass. Count me as a believer! -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable. earwaxer9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
