Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Tweak: Wood Block Refiners

2012-12-06 Thread Mnyb

Would these work together with my
http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html :P



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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Tweak: Wood Block Refiners

2012-12-06 Thread SuperQ

http://boingboing.net/2012/12/06/audiophile.html

For people with a sense of humor, hit reload a few times.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-06 Thread ralphpnj

CharlieG wrote: 
> "Eppur si muove"
> Galileo Galilei, 1633.
> :-)

Ah, but exactly who here is Galileo and who is the inquisitor?

The phrase, at least as used by Galileo, can be assigned to true
believers and to heretics as well. By that I mean Galileo was a true
believer when it came to science but a heretic in the eyes of the
church.

In any event it is one of the best posts I've seen in long time.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-06 Thread CharlieG

bhaagensen wrote: 
> Ralph you're amazingly persistent;)

"Eppur si muove"
Galileo Galilei, 1633.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-06 Thread bhaagensen

Ralph you're amazingly persistent;)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-06 Thread ralphpnj

ralphpnj wrote: 
> But the $1500 chip HAS TO sound better as per the First Law of High End
> Audio: the more expensive it is the better it will sound.

jh901 wrote: 
> This is the kind of straw man that gets us nowhere.  Sadly, a member
> such as Ralph would likely be elated to discover the quality of sound
> coming from his audio system if he upgraded the DAC.  I've learned first
> hand that it only takes one weak link in the electronics upstream to
> hide the huge upside of hi-end speakers.

That's only the first law, the second law states that if one cannot hear
how much better the more expensive piece of equipment sounds than the
less expensive then the rest of one's system MUST BE at fault.

By the way, here's a straw man for you, I hear he's got a killer audio
system carefully assembled by price:


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-06 Thread jh901

ralphpnj wrote: 
> But the $1500 chip HAS TO sound better as per the First Law of High End
> Audio: the more expensive it is the better it will sound.

This is the kind of straw man that gets us nowhere.  Sadly, a member
such as Ralph would likely be elated to discover the quality of sound
coming from his audio system if he upgraded the DAC.  I've learned first
hand that it only takes one weak link in the electronics upstream to
hide the huge upside of hi-end speakers.

Did someone make popcorn?  Coconut oil or bust.  Oh, and a whirley pop. 
Thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-06 Thread Julf

ralphpnj wrote: 
> Maybe not dirty but what about jittery?

Sure, but jitter only matters where the data doesn't get
resynchronized/rebuffered - and in the DAC itself, where the clock
jitter on the *output* clock can matter - but that is on the side where
the data enters the analog domain. 

It's funny how you never hear a dialog like "I really have problems
loading this excel spreadsheet" "Ah, that's because you probably have
too much jitter between your hard disk and your CPU"

> But the $1500 chip HAS TO sound better as per the First Law of High End
> Audio: the more expensive it is the better it will sound.

Good point!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-06 Thread ralphpnj

Julf wrote: 
> There definitely is no such thing as a dirty digital audio stream.

Maybe not dirty but what about jittery?

Julf wrote: 
> Right. And if the chips transfer the same data, without corrupting it,
> and deliver it in time when it is needed at the output, it makes no
> difference if the chip is a $5 one or a $1500 one.

But the $1500 chip HAS TO sound better as per the First Law of High End
Audio: the more expensive it is the better it will sound.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-12-06 Thread Julf

SBGK wrote: 
> there is no such thing as a clean digital audio stream

There definitely is no such thing as a dirty digital audio stream.

> there are just chips talking to each other and transferring chunks of
> data very quickly.

Right. And if the chips transfer the same data, without corrupting it,
and deliver it in time when it is needed at the output, it makes no
difference if the chip is a $5 one or a $1500 one.



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