Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-02-03 Thread Mnyb

Well some Audio Note DAC's may not actually be transparent some of thier
design desicions are "unortodox".
So it migth always stand out .

But it's cool that anyone owning AN products trying .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-02-03 Thread arnyk

foxesden wrote: 
> I have a Pi-Pico player hooked into and April Music DAC and a Squeezebox
> Touch running via an Audio GD Digital interface into and old (i.e. not
> NOS) Audio Note Dac 3 Signature.
> 
> I was originally going to sell the Audio Note Dac but just can't do it.
> 
> 
> Anyway I sometimes do A/B comparisons either through my main amp or a
> headphone amp by syncing the 2. If I need to do a DBT I level match and
> then get my son to switch sources. I can tell the difference between the
> Touch Analogue (noisy) vs a cheap NOS dac (less noisy) but not really
> between the other 2.
> 
> Having this setup I have been able to check whether different cables etc
> make a difference - I can only spot the really bad ones.
> 
> So context set. I was reading about USB re-clockers etc and the
> consensus on the web seems to be that the Intona makes a difference.
> This product is not marketed as an Audio device but for medical /
> industrial purposes. The fact that the company recommends using the
> cheaper one for audio made me think it was worth a try.
> 
> So I got the device today. And tried it in the April Music chain. A/B
> check (I know not perfect) it may have widened the sound-stage, but I
> doubt if I could reliably tell a difference.
> 
> Switched it around and put in the chain SB Touch -> Intona -> Audio-GD
> -> Audio Note and BAM. The volume has gone up massively.
> 
> Any ideas why this might be? I had level matched before putting the
> thing in the chain and it must be 10 db louder - I mean it hurt.

You seem badly confused about level matching. You do it AFTER you put
the components under test into the test system.

The fact that one component is louder than another is simply the nature
of things, and it is why we do level matching.

You also seem confused about proper testing. It appears that what you
are doing is a Single Blind test, and those have been known to be hihgly
prone to being rediculously invalid since the early 1800s, and the fact
that they proved the existence of horses that could decode complex spken
commands and do aritmetic in their heads. Search on "Clever Hans"



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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-02-03 Thread foxesden

I have a Pi-Pico player hooked into and April Music DAC and a Squeezebox
Touch running via an Audio GD Digital interface into and old (i.e. not
NOS) Audio Note Dac 3 Signature.

I was originally going to sell the Audio Note Dac but just can't do it.


Anyway I sometimes do A/B comparisons either through my main amp or a
headphone amp by syncing the 2. If I need to do a DBT I level match and
then get my son to switch sources. I can tell the difference between the
Touch Analogue (noisy) vs a cheap NOS dac (less noisy) but not really
between the other 2.

Having this setup I have been able to check whether different cables etc
make a difference - I can only spot the really bad ones.

So context set. I was reading about USB re-clockers etc and the
consensus on the web seems to be that the Intona makes a difference.
This product is not marketed as an Audio device but for medical /
industrial purposes. The fact that the company recommends using the
cheaper one for audio made me think it was worth a try.

So I got the device today. And tried it in the April Music chain. A/B
check (I know not perfect) it may have widened the sound-stage, but I
doubt if I could reliably tell a difference.

Switched it around and put in the chain SB Touch -> Intona -> Audio-GD
-> Audio Note and BAM. The volume has gone up massively.

Any ideas why this might be? I had level matched before putting the
thing in the chain and it must be 10 db louder - I mean it hurt.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter SE does not play from digital inputs

2017-02-03 Thread RonM

jazzman53 wrote: 
> 
> Bear in mind if responding that I'm a senior and not at all computer
> savvy.  
> 

Hah!



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