[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Spotify versus Rhapsody Audio Quality
Can anyone compare? I use Rhapsody now and the quality is actually pretty good. How is the Spotify premium service in comparison to Rhapsody regarding sound quality? Thanks I stream from my Touch to a BADAModwirght KWA150Sony M9ED. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88799 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A multitude of choices...
Hi, I haven't had a squeezebox for quite awhile. I just reviewed the staggering list of services (slacker, soma) and options for listening. I am a subscriber to Rhapsody and enjoy it and the quality is quite good. I am also very familiar with Pandora and know that they now have a premium service for $36 per year which features a higher bit stream. Of all the other choices, are there some other higher quality music squeezebox options to use for us audiophiles? I'm not speaking of individual stations but rather the list of free or pay services that is listed on the squeeze website that are accessible with the squeeze products. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76944 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] External DAC - does it make a difference?
Dptsystem, What components are in your system - what is the Transporter hooked up to? DotSystem;520708 Wrote: I use the Transporter digital output to drive the DAC section in my player which uses the first generation 32 bit AK4397 DAC. I do this because the combined DAC/output section in the player sounds better (here) than that of the Transporter and, unlike the Transporter, its attentuator operates as analog except at low listening levels where chopped bits are not missed. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75447 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] External DAC - does it make a difference?
My findings with the SB3 were: A bit of congestion to the midrange and some loss of treble. I added a Benchmark Dac 1 and percieved an improvement in sound. I also owned a Transporter and felt that it was an improvement over the SB3 alone, but would not swear that it was better than the SB3 w/Benchmark Dac 1 I bet Pat Farrell, member may echo the same thing. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75447 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch versus Transporter - beta testers chime in please
Hi, So many of us have been patiently waiting for the new Touch. Beta testers have lived with the Touch for awhile and also been through new software changes and some of you have experience with the TP, own dacs, have very nice systems and have likely formed opinions. Yes, I have read through the older posts, but let's collect some of these up to date comments here. My question is asked in terms of a high perfomance two channel system and I don't intend to use a preamp but rather run straight to amplifier. I have owned the SB3 and wasn't impressed with its analog out but was impressed digital out to a quality dac such as the Benchmark. I also owned the Transporter and was impressed with it as a player direct to amp. I have since owned other digital including a Theta Gen VIII but can't justify that type of expenditure. I really enjoy services such as Rhapsody and Pandora as well as my CD collection and the Squeeze solution seems the best to me. (the Linn products are unfamiliar to me, and are pricey but may be better) Have there been advances in the digital volume control on the new Touch to help with the problem of not losing resolution when running straight to amp? (I know there are pros and cons to preamp or no preamp) Analog outputs.is the Touch the equal of the Transporter or is the Transporter better. I can go either way - rca or balanced out if it gives the advantage to the TP. How does the Touch with external dac such as a lower priced high quality dac (Dacmagic, Benchmark) compare to the standalone Transporter? Please, your comments ar valuable and thanks!! -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74715 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter or wait for Touch?
So, give it too me straight. Analog outputs.is the Touch the equal of the Transporter or is the Transporter better and I can go either way - rca or balanced out if it gives the advantage to the TP. Anyone that has compared - please comment as I want to purchase one or the other. I understand the high value of the Touch as a transport only into an external dac, but I will use analog out. pfarrell;510740 Wrote: iPhone wrote: The Touch is a killer Squeezebox and in my opinion is head and shoulders above the SB3. The Transporter has the advantage of a better supported (Power Supplies and components) DAC circuit layout in my opinion and is way above the Touch in the total Power Supply area. Head to Head as a Digital Transport into an upscale outboard DAC, I say buy the Touch. From a practical standpoint, it makes tons of sense to buy a Touch first. If you need that extra bit (especially the balanced output, which I use on my TP) you can always buy a TP later. Very few people can get along with only one SqueezeBoxen I have not done A/B comparison between my Touch and my TP, but the Touch is very nice. I have a TP, Touch, Boom, Radio, Duet, and have bought and used three plain SqueezeBoxen. So I'm a bit biased. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74471 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Logitech Duet - brand new-sealed, $120 including shipping
Hi, I ordered an extra Logitech Duet that I don't need. It is in the box and brand new - not used. My loss/your gain $120 includes shipping to the lower 48. If you have any questions, please let me know. I accept PayPal with fees. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66909 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] linear power supply for duet?
HectorHughMunro;329842 Wrote: Not here. The internal diameter is a difficult one to find. Radio Shack is not international. The only ones that I've seen are on Nokia chargers. Agreed. I had to wire my Acopian PS and Radio Shack DC plug was close but very loose. I found one that was very close at Action Electronics. Part# PH-1135 Desc: DC Power Plug -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51079 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] linear power supply for duet?
Duet use should be with a linear PS and an external Dac. With those two upgrades, your performance is equal to or better than a Transporter. Try Acopian for a good linear PS for a lower price. I have one and like it. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51079 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] linear power supply for duet?
iPhone;329695 Wrote: That statement seems fool hearty and misguided. That is not the purpose of the Duet. In my opinion, if one is going to do that, one bought the wrong equipment in the first place. What a wild and misleading statement, for it is not even close unless one buys a DAC that costs more then a Transporter in the first place and one still can't play 24/96 files! If one is going to buy a Duet, an upgraded PS, and a DAC, one probably should have bought a Transporter in the first place! One of the main reasons is that it also allows one to play 24/96 files. It is all in one unit and is audiophile equipment instead of three parts trying to be something they can never be. Again, it is my opinion that the lowest cost setup that I have found that starts to best my TP in some areas is an SB3 driving a Bel Canto Dac3 and this is only for Red Book FLAC files. This setup costs $1000 more then the TP and still can't play 24/96 files! The purpose in a high end system for the SB3 or Duet is just to use as a transport. Analog out on the SB3 and Duet doesn't sound good. I was implying that you do need a high quality dac to use with the Duet or SB3 or what is the point, unless you want a lower quality solution? I don't have any 24/96 files. Do I still need to buy a Transporter? I owned a Transporter and have owned an SB3 into a Dac1 and now a Duet with a Gen VIII which I like better than either of the previous two combos. The SB3 and Dac 1 cost about the same as the Transporter and they were a horse apiece soundwise. My current set up sounds better than the Transporter, although the Transporter is still good. If I'm going to use a high end dac, I don't need to spend that much money on the Transporter as a Transport only - just buy the Duet and use the cool new controller. You've got two choices for a high end system: Transporter SB3 or Duet with a high quality dac and linear power supply If you're looking for a lower end solution then just buy the Duet or SB3. Doesn't seem to hard to figure out and thanks for the attack. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51079 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Last.fm bitrate
I've never used Last.fm, but just received the newsletter from Slim Devices to sign up. My question is: What bitrate does Last.fm stream at. I'm hoping it's high - so the sound quality is decent! Thanks. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49661 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Last.fm bitrate
Thanks Andy, I'll give it a try as soon as I get my new Duet fired up! -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49661 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Absolute Sound reviews AppleTV and Squeezebox Duet
Bring it on Pale Blue Ego - I'm ready! I hope it's a good one. (especially since I just purchased a Duet to use into my Dac) -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49614 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
sc53;315147 Wrote: To follow up, I sold my Ayre CD player for $1700 and picked up a Classe CDP .5 for $600 on Audiogon. I have always liked Classe gear but have never heard this model player. Hoping it will serve as a good backup both as transport and CD player if needed. It will play out of my Electrocompaniet DAC and BAT preamp--hoping for good sound. Do you like the sound of the SB3 and Dac combo better than the Ayre CX7? The Ayre CX 7e is a very highly regarded CD player. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] power supply upgrade for duet receiver
p-cubed;314503 Wrote: iPhone, Thanks for the detailed response. Where did you find the current spec for the Creation Audio supply? I couldn't find that anywhere online. I am aware that the SBR expects a minimum supply rating of 550 mA. As to my interest in upgrading the power supply: Just got the Duet about a week ago. I have added it to my main rig, and while I love the convenience of the system, the sound leaves something to be desired. The main rig is: Music Reference RM5 Mk III tube preamp - McCormack DNA-1 Rev A power amp - BW Nautilus 805 speakers. Cabling is Cardas and Synergistic Research. AC Power is via a dedicated line, distributed through a Furutech eTP-80 (except the power amp plugs straight into the dedicated AC line). My digital source has been a Marantz DV-8400 Universal Disc player. Power to that is through a JPS Digital Power Cable. The Marantz sits on Aurios bearings. My discs have all been ripped with dbpoweramp CD ripper to FLAC. Played back via the SBR through the main rig, compared with the same discs through the Marantz, the sound is thinner harmonically, and the imaging is less distinct. It is NOT bad, just not as good as what I'm used to. Which leads me back to the notion of upgrading the power supply. I would expect that putting a nice DAC in the chain would be much more effective, but I don't have the funds for that at present. I have gotten lots of mileage from various cheap tweaks in the past, and am just looking for one more! Thanks for your thoughts, Earle You may need an upgraded linear power supply but you definitely do need an external dac to improve the sound. I tried my older SB3 analog out versus into Benchmark Dac 1 a few years ago and the SB3 needed to go into the dac to improve the sound. Linear supply is another matter - the differences with a cheaper power supply are not that great in my experience. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314462 Wrote: I'd definitely recommend having a CD player on hand for the times when your SqueezeCenter server, or your network isn't available for whatever reason. Or even just for when someone comes by with a CD that you want to play on your stereo without having to rip it first. I lost my server's boot disk early last week, so I was without my SqueezeCenter server until the weekend when I had the chance to rebuild it. During that time it was back to good old CDs and FM. If you're going to be playing it through an outboard DAC, and if it's only occasionally used, then I wouldn't worry too much about the merits of the CDP as a transport. (An aside: During the week of going back to CDs I was reminded once again of how much nicer it is to browse through a wall full of actual CDs instead of using one of the Squeeze interfaces. There are a lot of wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and selecting something to listen to from a large music library is _not_ one of them. For this reason alone, I'd be tempted to hang on to a really good CD player instead of selling it. If you haven't played CDs recently, you should try shutting down the SqueezeCenter server and going back to CDs for a week or two. You might be surprised to find that your listening habits, even (dare I say it) your satisfaction level, may be different.) As a longer term squeezecenter user too, I'm with you. I really don't like scrolling through my collection - it just seems to wierd and I have never gotten used to it. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Transporter Minireview
mswlogo;313104 Wrote: Front Panel isn't exactly free. Second Display. Faster Processor. Power Supply. Cabinet. The RD on the analog was probably pretty significant. The added cost in replicating it, is probably pretty darn cheap. Analog connectors and labor to connect them are probably the most significant cost of the analog. Hi MSWlogo, I gather from your review that you were uisng the TP and SB3 only as digital transports - digital output from either and not analog? This would be good to know, Thanks. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Would you upgrade ?
finkaudio;310362 Wrote: Hi Jeronimo, your bottle neck is the Transporter DAC - take a better one and leave the PM11 and the speakers I'm using an Audionet VIP G3 as my DAC and it is a real nice combination. You can also use the Art G2 with good results. If you don't want to invest that much, look around for a good external DAC. Just my 2c. Best regards Karl-Heinz How can the bottle neck be the Transporter dac - AKM miracle dac? That seems ludicrous to me. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48713 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter sans preamp w/Endler Att.
Hi, I have my Transporter directly xlr connected to my amps and control volume with my TP digital control. I have no other sources in my system. Any long term feedback (good or bad) on using your TP straight to amp (no preamp) or using Endler Attenuators in your system ? Have you been happy with the Endlers? Has anyone gone back to a preamp? Nice to have to spend the big money if you don't have to. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48232 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bybee silver bullet, $4200 for four
jsprag;301747 Wrote: Seems expensive, but they'll come in handy when your audio system is attacked by werewolves. That made me laugh - good one. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Duet Sound
Jazzyguy;295918 Wrote: Okay, Jeese, you don't have to. Was I asking you personally to do it? Just wanted to see if anybody already did an A/B. What I can't believe is you took the time to respond without an educated answer, just to say you won't answer. Un-friggin-believable. Who's the troll now?? And FWIW, I posted this in another audio forum 1 hour ago and got a ton of answers from people who did the A/B and got a lot of great feedback without the idiotic, uncessary and completely useless headaches from the likes of people like you. Not even one like you, not even one! My turn.. is it it is!!!.. Don't feed the trolls. That was indeed warranted. What other audio forum did you post in Jazzy? I'd like to read the posts. Thanks. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46079 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs Transporter
ecruz;294050 Wrote: I have an SB3 with the Bolder digital mods and power supply. I send the digital signal to a TacT 2.0 pre/DAC. I know the Transporter is a lot better than the SB3 if you're using their respective internal DAC's. My question, is the Transporter a step up from the SB3 if I'm using an exteranl DAC? No sense in using an external dac with the TP. Sb3 yes, TP no. Your set up is more complicated with more variables. Are you using the room correction in both cases? TP as just a transport should be better than SB3 but not by a large margin. TP is slightly better than SB3 into Benchmarck Dac in my experience. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46636 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player
Kris, Are you feeling better? -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player
Kris, Any updates to share? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Duet w/Benchmark dac1 vs Transpoter?
The Transporter is a little better plus I like the one box solution. On advantage is that the Dac1 has built in jumpers for output so you can pad down the xlr's if running direct to amp. I've owned them both and now have the Transporter and would not switch back. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45997 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Shredder;285716 Wrote: Modwright TP directly into Classe CAM-350 monos w/no pre. Denon 2910 universal player through digital inputs in TP. Aerial Model 9 speakers. Anti-cables and ics. Very happy with this set-up. Nice set up Shredder! How do you like the new ModWright Transporter - did you have the stock TP before the modded unit? Do you like running without a preamp? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Shredder - thanks. I'll be interested to hear if the Endlers help or if you prefer the sound without them. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
I would agree on the stock sound - very transparent and revealing but the highs aren't 'tizzy,' just accurate and I have a very resolving system. Tizzy sounds like the stock unit would have a problem or be inaccurate. Thanks for your post Ted. Good to hear your thoughts. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
rydenfan;283865 Wrote: How were you blown off? this was Danny Kaey's response to you: howdy... I won't be reviewing the stock TP per-se; I'll spend most of the time in the Truth TP domain - I feel it eclipses the former by a considerable margin as to devote an entire review to it when the Truth TP is so much more... I was referring to my post to Srajaen earlier - not Danny. If I would have known that you are analyzing my posts, I would have clarified that. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
bigfool1956;277343 Wrote: Hi Kris, My CD players has a certain extra weight to the upper bass, something that I had unconciously compensated for when I positioned my speakers, as a result getting a compromise between the CD player and the turntable. The TP does not have this characteristic, and so I had to reposition the speakers to even the response (still working on that actually). So you could give that a try. Secondly, for some reason decoding FLAC natively in the TP sounds different to decoding it in SS/SC and sending the waves to the TP. Now I personally prefer the native option, but it is the work of a second to try that out too. Big fool, How do you set the decoding in SS rather than in the TP? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter - upgraded squeeze center today - no output
Hi, I just upgraded to the official release of squeeze center 7.0 today (firmware 36). I had been running 7.0 f40 prior to upgrade without any problems other than not being able to use the digital input except through the firmware. I now have no output/no music from the Transporter. Squeeze center on computer is running and shows music playing, amps are on, TP shows conection to internet radio and stream or library music playing, but no output and no music. Volume is not muted. I don't know what else to check and why there is no music coming out of my speakers? Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44184 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter - upgraded squeeze center today - no output
haunyack and radish, (sounds like salad dressing!) I'll give that a try - xilinx reset. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44184 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter - upgraded squeeze center today - no output
It worked - thanks boys! -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44184 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music
Hello Slim Devices - any updates for me? Is this a software problem? I have filed a service request also. It's kind of a moot point because streaming files wifi to the Transporter sounds better to me than my Sony cd transport with Illuminati D60 coax digital interconnect with digital input to the Transporter so I guess I don't really care to use the digital input anymore, but would like confirmation or resolution. Is my Transporter defective? Is it a software issue that a newer version will address? It would be good too know. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music
Thanks Sean - good to know. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music
Robin Bowes;273485 Wrote: mrflood wrote: Bill, I also have the identical issue as you with firmware 40 and Squeezecenter 7.01. I have my Oppo DVD player hooked up and connected via Coax. Sometimes it works, but if i touch the volume or switch to another input or anything on the Transporter, I just get pops and noises. I've filed a bug report with Sean. I have yet to try directly from the Transporter firmware. I will do this, and post my results. I see the same thing. CD player plugged into RCA SPDIF. playing OK. If I change volume (from max, turn it down), sound goes off. R. I'm running my Transporter direct to amp so when I make ANY adjustment to the volume the sound kicks out and I get the noise back and the bursts of noise doesn't seem to be attenuated in any way either. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music
slimkid;272659 Wrote: What is the output format for the specific DVD you are listening (probably button 'audio' on the remote)? Make sure it's not DTS, needs to be something like 5.1 or 2.0. Also, recheck that your digital output format is switched to PCM, and not to RAW. Other than that, I get the sound you describe on my DAC when trying to oversample 48 Khz signal - not sure if transporter can even do that. K I'm playing CD's - not DVD's Thanks! Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music
seanadams;272764 Wrote: Also see if you can do it from the built-in firmware menu (i.e. not connected to a server). Press and hold left arrow to go out to the setup menu. Hi Sean, If you mean select the digital input and press play with the remote directly on the Transporter, that's how I did it. Unless I'm not understanding you right. I'm not selecting the input or pushing play on the computer in Squeezecenter. Thanks Sean, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music
rydenfan;272759 Wrote: This might seem obvious, but did you press play? Even when you swtich the Transporter in DAC mode you still have to tell it to play. It took me a few minutes to figure that out. I pushed play after I selected the digital input on the Transporter - thanks rydenfan. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music
rydenfan;272777 Wrote: Also, when setting it up as a DAC you have to tell it which type of input you are using such as AES/EBU or SPIDF, etc. Have you confirmed that is correct? Yes, I checked the input - rca spdif. Confirmed. When I first tried the digital out, I had the Sony DVP set to output AC3 but remedied that and the changed the downmix and tried a couple more times - all with the same result. Maybe I freaked out the Transporter on the first try!? Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music
seanadams;272831 Wrote: No - It is possible to choose the digital inputs using a menu that is built into Transporter's firmware, so that you can use it as a DAC even if you are not connected to the server. Press and hold the left arrow to disconnect from SlimServer, then click down a few times and you will see the option. The reason to try this is that it greatly simplifies the scope of the problem, and gives us a better starting point from which to troubleshoot. I'll give that a try and report back - thanks Sean. I'll also try the power on with the 1 key depressed to re whatever the xilinx chip. Phil - yes to the PCM and the downmix. I didn't initally but fixed it after the first try thinking that was the problem - it wasn't. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music
Sean, I'm playing a cd right now using the firmware - that works! I have the rca spdif input selected and no problem. I did the xilinx reprogram on start up also. When I scrolled left to the firmware, it was fine. I then powered off and tried the digital input from the software? menu and the same thing - no music and loud pops and chirps and noise when the volume is moved. I hope this is helping solve the problem. At least I have a way of playing a cd with my transport. Let me know what you think. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem
I hooked up my Sony DVP 7000es that I use as a transport to the rca spdif digital input on my Transporter. I get no music, LOUD pops and chirps and clicking when I switch the volume. What is wrong - this is supposed to double as a DAC, yet I get nothing - help! I am running the new 7.0 squeezecenter as the software. (I have the Sony DV7000es menu set to output PCM in the and downmix to normal and not surround). Frustrated, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations
xand1x;263020 Wrote: I'm in the exact same scenario you are in mr_bill. I have Endler's on order and hopefully they'll arrive soon. As soon as I get them i'll let you know if there is an audible difference between using the digital volume control in the upper vs lower registers. I'm sure Phil and a few of the others around here will reply soon with an answer though! Hi x, Did you receive your Endler attenuators yet? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42698 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations
So what's the verdict here? It seems to get more confusing all the time. 1. Transporter straight into amps? 2. Transporter into Endler Attenuators? 3. Transporter into higher quality preamp with Transporter set to fixed output? (all xlr if possible) Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42698 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations
Phil Leigh;262999 Wrote: Before spending any money, why don't you just try TP-Amp via XLR and use the volume control on the TP? I doubt you'll be unhappy. That's what I'm doing now - but it gets pretty loud at -20 to -25db on the volume scale. That's what is prompting my concern. Am I losing too much resolution with my scenario? I should have posted that originally. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42698 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations
xand1x;263020 Wrote: I'm in the exact same scenario you are in mr_bill. I have Endler's on order and hopefully they'll arrive soon. As soon as I get them i'll let you know if there is an audible difference between using the digital volume control in the upper vs lower registers. I'm sure Phil and a few of the others around here will reply soon with an answer though! Thanks xand1x. I'll be interested to hear your results. Are you using the xlr outputs (that's what I'm guessing). I'm thinking of the Endler shotgun xlr 4k pair for $140. I think this may be all I need, but am wondering what impact they will have on the sound and is suing the upper portion of the volume scale makes a difference. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42698 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter - streaming versus spdif input in Transporter
Thanks for the answer Sean. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42183 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 6moons preview ModWright Transporter
I appreciate Sean's comments as he is the designer, and engineer and knows a heck of a lot more than I do! Thanks for the voice of truth. If Sean can look at the mod and know if it's going to be an improvement or not from theory and design and reality, then thanks for letting us know! This takes personal preference and imagined improvement out and puts objectivity in. Parts swappers and modders are not necessarily right. There is theory and truth involved too. A higher noise floor and the addition of some distortion related bloom and color doesn't produce a better product unless that's what you're looking for. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41756 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 6moons preview ModWright Transporter
The analog ouput redesign that Dan Wright does, certianly has me intrigued. I read an article on Stereophile the other day from ___ Johnson the leader of Audio Research and his point was that tubes are inherently more linear than their solid state ouput counterparts. As Dan puts the tube output on the Transporter with a BIG power supply, I wonder if this really does help? Little do I know if the improvements are imaginary or real? -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41756 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter or SB question
tomjtx;253885 Wrote: Try going to the symphony in a good hall and solo classical concerts and chamber music. No system can come even close to that. Tom, Right on. That would be nice though. I sent you a PM. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41469 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter or SB question
GuyDebord;253086 Wrote: As I posted in the other topic, I only miss it when I buy a new cd, because I have to wait for cd paranoia to rip it before I can listen to it... but apart form that, regarding sound, I am happier with the Transporter, and you cannot really beat the convenience of its interface, so I would recommend you to go for it, but I am sure it will force you to also upgrade your setup, the Transporter's limit will be your other equipment Now, saying this I dont mean that your rega setup is bad, but that the Transporter can play in a much higher league, up there with the best... Regarding your current equipment, I dont think your cursa has balanced inputs, (my saturn didnt have balanced outputs) so when I bought the transporter I was using the rca's I had (van den hul integration) and I liked it a lot, but when I bought balanced cables the transporter became a sonic revelation. Having the transporter will for sure make you think about upgrading, good luck Hi Guy, The Rega Saturn, that you replaced for the Transporter is very well regarded as a CD player. From your comments, it reads that you feel the Transporter is better than the Saturn sonically. I am about to buy a Transporter and I would love to hear any comments you have sonically, regarding the Saturn and Transporter. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41469 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter or SB question
tomjtx;253529 Wrote: Gee, it must be right if it's a norwigen magazine. At the level of Transporter and other top DACs the differences are usually going to be quite subtle and , if detectable, which differences one prefers are going to be a matter of taste. Tom, Your comments are very relevant as I know you've had comparison time and experience with other top sources. How are you using your Transporter? Direct to amp? xlr out? What is your system comprised of for amps, preamp (if used) and speakers? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41469 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs Transporter via external DAC
mofuv;251572 Wrote: I don't believe that price is what matters! I started with the analogue outputs of the transporter and compared it to the Linn Akurate CD Player. I was surprised that it was difficult to hear a real diference, maybe the Linn had a better soundstage, but the rest was not really worth mentioning. Then I compared both with the Scarlatti DAC linked to the transporter. I would not say that it was distinctly better. The situation changed, when I used the word clock output of the dac and connected it to the transporter. Now the dac acted as master and the transporter as slave. This really made a difference! Broader sound stage, great timing and a lot more details! The only downside is the flaw in the transporter: If it is set to word clock input and that signal stops (because you switch the dac to another input and it does not send a word clock signal) then the transporter crashes, has to be set to internal clock and then back to slave. The next step to avoid this was using a separate master clock and I also added the purcell upsampler. This gave the best sound I have ever heard with excellent musicality. You could clearly hear the different sound of the acoustic guitars Jackson Brownie is using in his life concert, piano sounds natural and voices as if the singers were just sitting there in your room. I cannot stop listening to all kinds of music and detect nuances which I have never heard before with different top systems. It is astonishing that also older simple CD-recordings have a great sound. I have all my Vinyls on the Hard drive and in this system I hear them as I would play them back via my turntable. I think the most important improvement to the system is using an external master clock for the dac and the transporter. I don,t know any other network player than the transporter where this is possible. But to get high end sound this feature is necessary. Mofuv, Are you running your digital front end through a preamp and if so what preamp? Have you tried running the Transporter direct to amp? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41160 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How good is the DAC in the Squeezebox 3?
Anne;205401 Wrote: Without making anyone nervous, the analog out of SB3 is pretty good. I had a hard time hearing differences between it and my Philips dvd 963SA with clock upgrade, via electrostatic headphones. Funny, via the speakers, switching back and forth via the remote, it was a bit easier, but there isnt much difference. The Philips is widely known for its good, and overachieving sonics, a kudos to SB3 that is. The question is...does the SB3 sound better digital out run through your Bryston 100DA than analog out from the SB3 to your Bryston? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35642 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 is equivalent to which CD Players or DACs?
Keith L. How are you using the Naim HiLine and what do you have plugged into the HiLine? Thanks- I'm very interested. Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 is equivalent to which CD Players or DACs?
Thanks Keith, I have the same set up as you = SB3/Linear PS/Benchmark DAC1 and then straight into amps. Very high performance! Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] External DAC for SB
sonofcolin;180663 Wrote: Bel Canto e.one DAC3 is a very impressive DAC to my ears (but not cheap). I use it with USB from itunes/powerbook and SB3 (Bolder mod) and is by far the best digital I have ever heard in my system. Sonofcolin, I'd be curious what other Dacs you've used as I am considering the Dac3 from BC. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32740 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] External DAC for SB
Pat Farrell;181034 Wrote: 325xi wrote: mmg_fan;181022 Wrote: Please, yes...I'm curious...about 80% of the reviews i've read (including John Atkinson of Stereophile) give great reviews for the benchmark. The problem is that over 80% of user's opinions for benchmark are negative... :( Well, let me push that down to 78 or lower. I love my Benchmark DAC-1. I am torn between my Transporter and my SB - DAC1. They both sound great, but there are differences. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html Pat, It would be great to hear about what you are hearing as differences b/w the Transporter and the SB3/Dac1 combo. I would find that very informative! I respect your comments. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32740 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best reasonably priced DAC
Phil, Can you tell us anymore on the City Pulse Dac? I see that it has balanced out and a remote volume control - which would be nice. I'm assuming the volume control is in the analog domain rather than digital. How does it sound? Compared to a Benchmark Dac? Nice price for what looks like a lot of performance and features. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32336 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter analog output
Kiep;170562 Wrote: I still think having the attenuators built-in on the Transporter would be beneficial. Benchmark does it for their DAC1 and I think they got it right: consumer level RCA output and XLR output with attenuators at 0, -10, -20, -30. I realize this is not very easy to change but it would: 1. allow to maintain full resolution of the dac 2. solve the problem for consumer preamps with balanced capability 3. maintain flexibility for pro market The symptoms of excessive gain are not just limited to volume control. Depending on preamp design this may appear as channel imbalance, rolled off high frequency/too much bass, lack of speed, poor transient response. From the user point of view this is an issue that may not be obvious but it will make the device perform worse than what it is actually capable of. As a manufacturer I would probably try to avoid it. I have Bryston BP26 and when I borrowed the Transporter it did not sound anywhere close to what I remember hearing with Simaudio P-8. Simaudio can handle 4V rms signal, Bryston says it can too (up to 15V pkpk) but they don't recommend it because it will not sound good. Different preamps I know but the difference was on a different level. I would expect similar outcome with other brands. Food for thought. Kiep, What was the difference between the SimAudio P8 and the Brysston BP26 with the Transporter? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31019 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC
seanadams;164763 Wrote: The new 0 to 100 scale is, I believe, true decibels. (In the past when we used only 40 steps, it was a more complicated curve designed to stretch out the low end of the range). So -10 corresponds to 90, -20 to 80, and -30 to 70. Correct - exactly the same concept. Sean, So, if I set up my inernal jumpers on my Benchmark Dac (or Transporter for that matter) so if the SB3 volume reads 70 and my decibel meter in room reads 70 db then am I set up and getting maximum SNR, resolution and performance? Would I still need a preamp performance related to matching or volume? Thanks and I think I finally understand, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30916 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC
seanadams;164816 Wrote: No - you are making this FAR more complicated than it is. Forget about decibels! All you do is set the jumpers so that when transporter is playing at full volume, you are at the maximum listening level you'd want to use. Just start at -30 and move them up towards 0, until you reach your max listening level. That is really all there is to it. If you are already using a preamp, or if your amplifier has gain controls, then you should use those controls and don't touch the jumpers. What you are trying to avoid is a situation where you are at your maximum listening level with the volume bar only half way up. This is what might happen if you connected transporter directly to an amp. That's when you need to change the jumpers. Thanks Sean, That's a simple way of setting and understanding! Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30916 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 volume control with 20-bit external DAC
seanadams;164681 Wrote: You _ALWAYS_ lose SNR and dynamic range. The you still have all the bits concept is completely flawed. You MUST match your source to your amp using analog attenuation. You can use 1) the gain controls on your amp 2) a preamp or 3) a RCA in-line attenuator or 4) Transporter's built-in jumpers. Use the digital volume for day-to-day adjustment within your normal listening range, not to compensate for a badly matched system. This has been discussed many times here, but I won't refer you to our archives as there have been far too many people still getting it wrong. Instead, here's a detailed and correct explanation from Lavry (login needed): http://lavryengineering.com/lavry_forum/login.php?redirect=viewtopic.phpt=76 If you don't believe the theory (which many people don't for some reason) here is a simple test which one customer did which gives the expected results. Note that he is using older software which shows the volume range as 0-40. In the current software it is 0-100. http://mysite.verizon.net/forumwebspace/RightMark/Test%20Reports/Volume.htm Sean, As an example, could you explain to us how to best use the jumpers in the Transporter and the volume range of 0-100 to properly match source to amp. That would be very helpful. If you have an SB3 and Benchmark Dac1, you can use the Benchmark's internal jumpers to match the source to amp also (I think!!) Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30916 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter volume control
Only off the rca outputs though - not the xlr's. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30365 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter for sale-silver
I have a new sealed silver transporter for sale. $1550 including shipping. Please email me if interested. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30398 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Why does it sound better?
WSLam;142527 Wrote: Two of my friends just came over to listen to my setup today. We compared the Transporter Analog out to DCC2 SE Preamp vs Transporter AES out to DCC2 SE DAC + Clocked. They both felt that the difference is so minute... and in some cases, they like the Transporter slightly more relaxed sound then the ultra precision of the clocked combo sound. Do you run balanced out of the Transporter into your ice amps or single ended? If SE do you use the jumpers inthe Transporter? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28126 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter: Confused about volume control
Patrick Dixon;141917 Wrote: The DAC is 24-bit resolution whilst most music (CDs) is stored as 16-bits. Therefore if you volume control digitally within the 24-bits of the DAC (ie providing you don't allow any rounding of bits 25 and below to occur), you always maintain full digital resolution (*). What you do suffer is a degraded SNR from running the DAC at less than max, but that's traded-off against any SNR losses in the pre-amp that you're now not using. (*) Slimserver adjusts volume control (in the SB3 at least) so that -30db and above volume settings avoid rounding or truncation of the 24-bit data. Does anyone know where you begin to lose resolution or rounding/truncation with the new 6.5 software? I guess that has a volume scale of 0 - 100 rather than the 0-40 for the SB3. I undertand keeping the volume above 30 but this may have noew changed. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28133 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter: Confused about volume control
cbemoore;142060 Wrote: The 0 - 100 volume control corresponds to -50dB - 0dB attenuation, in increments of 0.5dB. So -30dB will be 40/100 on the new volume scale. Chris So if you keep the volume at 40 or above n the new '100' scale then you are not losing bits or resolution? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28133 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter balance outputs; some questions
seanadams;141473 Wrote: Notwithstanding the educational value of trying it, unless your headphone amp has balanced inputs, it's probably not a good idea to use the balanced outputs. You would need a _very_ low noise active balun circuit (super regs etc) in order to approach what's coming from transporters RCA outputs. However, if you're picking up a ton of noise due to having an unbalanced run, then maybe look into it. Sean, Don't both the Transporter RCA and XLR outpus make use of the super regulators and same output circuit? Mabe I didn't understand your answer above - it may have been referring to something else. Thanks, bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28111 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Nice system Phil!! I especially lik the finish on the speakers. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ripping service and formats
Hi, I'm thinking of having Slim rip my CD collection and I use Itunes to manage all my music. I have a reference two channel system and want absolute transparency. Is the format AAC going to give this to me or should I be looking at something else? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27004 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Ripping service and formats
Does ALAC stand for apple lossless audio codec? That's how I am ripping in to ITunes now. What about WMA? I don't imagine that I can use Flac with Itunes - I don't really know how I would manage two different format systems - Itunes and Flac. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27004 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Sleestack, How much was the power suppply for the SB3 you have and did you get it from mauimods? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
