Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best Sounding version of Slimserver?
Ultimate tweak for slimserver is using mp3 transcoding (convert to uncompressed format on PC), works on (almost) every version of slimserver. -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66366 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....
I didn't read this whole thread, but I want to say: Please don't draw any conclusions about mp3 quality based on experience with slimdevices because slimdevices mp3 decoder have flaws/limitations ( http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 ). cheers, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51021 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....
Beleive what You want to belive. On my side, I can hear on my headphones SB generated noise on quiet parts when listening mp3 on SB. When using transcoding that noise is gone. That noise is maybe -60 dB. cheers, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51021 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps Mp3's on a hi-fi system....
@DeVerm Transcoding workaround mp3 flc * * [madplay] --output=wave:- --replay-gain=audiophile --attenuate=-0 --very-quiet --bit-depth=24 $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --endian big --sign signed --channels 2 --bps 24 --sample-rate 44100 - Madplay get at http://www.rarewares.org/mp3-others.php -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51021 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Sean, thanks for Your answer. Please don't feel bad about my post, it is more argument in discussion then request to Slimdevices. I overreacted after provocation( not from slimdevices). Please take Your time to fix this bug, thanks ones again, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Phil Leigh;311869 Wrote: Yes...but what music - it must have been something very specific? UH, I really don't remember. Definitely some audiophile jazz, opus3 or chesky maybe. But it's not about one song. I got my Squeze from frend in US (thanks Cico), built amp, and start listening. And suddenly there is some noise in ultra high quality recordings, and here we are now. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
darrenyeats;311586 Wrote: Enough already! We all agree that it's a bug, we all agree it will be fixed, we all agree there is a workaround with transcoding. Peace (as in hold your), Darren Only open question is WHEN. And when You are here, what is Your opinion about my marketing post? sikahr;310051 Wrote: Ok, I'll try. Robin (and many others) points out this bug doesn't affect many people because: - Audiophiles don't listen to lossless - Average Joe dont need high quality So, conclusion is, high quality mp3 playback is not important to most users, and this bug have low priority. BUT, at the same time, all slimdevices (Squeeze, duet, transporter) have these statements in specification (my caps and bold): Compressed formats (MP3, AAC, Ogg Vorbis, MP2, MusePack, WMA) MPEG decoding uses MAD software, *WIDELY REGARDED AS THE MOST ACCURATE*, most compatible MP3 decoder. *HIGH ACCURACY 24-BIT SYNTHESIS* Supports all MP3 data rates and sample rates, including VBR I understand these statements as advertising of high quality mp3 playback capability. So, - When you need to make selling point, high quality mp3 playback capability *IS IMPORTANT* and emphasized in specification. - When you need to fix bugs, high quality mp3 playback capability *IS NOT SO IMPORTANT* and bugs have low priority. In my opinion, because of bug, slimdevices mp3 playback quality is bellow average, because *accuracy of decoder(because of bug) is about 10-12 correct bits* (my estimation - needs testing but I believe it is true). Statements in specification gave *false impression of high quality mp3 playback capability*, when implementation quality, because of bug, is *bellow average*. To make conclusion, *IF SLIMDEVICES IS FAIR AND HONEST COMPANY*, they will *remove false claims* of high quality mp3 playback from specification and other advertising material * until this bug is fixed *( it is now open more then six months). Please feel free to comment flaws in my logic here. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Phil Leigh;311802 Wrote: That's a shame. Can you explain how you first noticed this problem? Listen music, hear something's wrong, start testing. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Phil Leigh;311416 Wrote: I'm not berating anyone! The OP keeps ignoring the fact that: the issue is buried in the noisefloor of most systems there is no evidence that anyone else has ever noticed the issue there is a simple workaround (convert mp3 to flac) that fixes the problem. Phil, I challenge You to listen to these files: http://www.driveway.com/i1l4u7v3m4 http://www.driveway.com/b6o9y7s2n1 This is short fragment of music normalized on -45db and -75db. Please listen to these files on some slimdevices and on some other mp3 player. After that we can continue discussion. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
andynormancx;311449 Wrote: I Is it possible to get it to transcode from MP3 to FLAC ? At least then those few people who are really affected (MP3 users, with very good amps and music with quiet passages) could have an easy work-around without having to convert all their MP3s. Transcoding workaround(mp3 decoding in full 24-bit,): mp3 flc * * [madplay] --output=wave:- --replay-gain=audiophile --attenuate=-0 --very-quiet --bit-depth=24 $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --endian big --sign signed --channels 2 --bps 24 --sample-rate 44100 - Madplay get at http://www.rarewares.org/mp3-others.php Now please listen samples again to hear how they sound now. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
andynormancx;311449 Wrote: I've listened and I'm afraid your samples just prove the previous point that the artefacts are swamped by the noise floor of a typical non-audiophile sound system. Yes I can hear the artefacts very clearly when I turn up my amp way beyond where I would normally listen. But at normal listening levels I can't hear the -75dB track at all above the normal noise from my amp and I can barely hear the -45dB track let alone the artefacts. Most of my music is in MP3 ~200kbps VBR at the moment and I have never heard these artefacts in normal listening. They are quite distinctive when you can hear them, but I never have heard them. I'm guessing that if you listened to a lot of classical music with very quiet but not silent sections then you would have more chance of hearing it in real life, but you'd have to have a much quieter amp than mine for it to be noticable. The bug should obviously be fixed, but it is unlikely that many people are actually suffering because of it. I'll quote myself: sikahr;246061 Wrote: This is it. Bug is not showstoper but very annoying on hi-fi gear. My rough estimation is that generated noise is about -50 - -60 dB. cheers, Nenad Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
andynormancx;311449 Wrote: you'd have to have a much quieter amp than mine for it to be noticable. I mostly listen with Sennheiser HD580 and dirt cheap homemade CMOY headphone amp with burr-brown opamp. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
First, about the workaround, there are no need for conversion, transcoding workaround works superb. Second, You didn't say anything about first file (-45db). Please listen additional file: http://www.driveway.com/v8x5g1b3p9 this is -60db file, it maybe gives best picture because music and artefacts are about same level. My point is: if noise of about -60 db mixed with music is not important, then I agree with You. But I think this is important and I clearly can hear this on my system on audiophile recordings as additional noise which disappeare when I use trancoding. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Phil Leigh;311587 Wrote: The -45dB file was...louder. Maybe I'm missing something here. Can you post the mp3 fragment without any normalisation or changes in level? so I can hear it exactly as it would be ripped? Unfortunatrelly, I don't have original rip (six months passed), but I have wav (normalised to -45db) decoded from mp3 on PC. Compare this wav to mp3: http://www.driveway.com/u2b8k4z9t6 Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Robin Bowes;309312 Wrote: Nenad, Calm down. Ok, I'll try. Robin (and many others) points out this bug doesn't affect many people because: - Audiophiles don't listen to lossless - Average Joe dont need high quality So, conclusion is, high quality mp3 playback is not important to most users, and this bug have low priority. BUT, at the same time, all slimdevices (Squeeze, duet, transporter) have these statements in specification (my caps and bold): Compressed formats (MP3, AAC, Ogg Vorbis, MP2, MusePack, WMA) MPEG decoding uses MAD software, *WIDELY REGARDED AS THE MOST ACCURATE*, most compatible MP3 decoder. *HIGH ACCURACY 24-BIT SYNTHESIS* Supports all MP3 data rates and sample rates, including VBR I understand these statements as advertising of high quality mp3 playback capability. So, - When you need to make selling point, high quality mp3 playback capability *IS IMPORTANT* and emphasized in specification. - When you need to fix bugs, high quality mp3 playback capability *IS NOT SO IMPORTANT* and bugs have low priority. In my opinion, because of bug, slimdevices mp3 playback quality is bellow average, because *accuracy of decoder(because of bug) is about 10-12 correct bits* (my estimation - needs testing but I believe it is true). Statements in specification gave *false impression of high quality mp3 playback capability*, when implementation quality, because of bug, is *bellow average*. To make conclusion, *IF SLIMDEVICES IS FAIR AND HONEST COMPANY*, they will *remove false claims* of high quality mp3 playback from specification and other advertising material * until this bug is fixed *( it is now open more then six months). Please feel free to comment flaws in my logic here. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
To Phil Leigh: Please accept my apology because I overreacted and use some words which are inappropriate. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Chris and Sean, thank for your answers, but me and Slimdevices have totally different perspective about importance and priority of this bug. My point of view is that soundquality related bugs have very high priority, slimdevices obviously have opposite. Chris and Sean, do You listen mp3s on your SQ or transporter with headphones? If You do, find some very quiet part of song and increase amplification to very high level. When You hear what is going on, maybe your point of view may be changed. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
To CardinalFang and others who think that high quality MP3 decoding is not important: If that is the case, I think that it will be fair to Slimdevices customers to change Slimdevices devices specification. Now it is: # MPEG decoding uses MAD software, widely regarded as the most accurate, most compatible MP3 decoder # High accuracy 24-bit synthesis I propose change to: # MPEG decoding uses MAD software, widely regarded as the most accurate, most compatible MP3 decoder, but our implementation have bugs which introduce strange noise in sound which makes it unusable for high quality mp3 listening # High accuracy 24-bit synthesis, but our implementation have bugs which limits accuracy to (approximately - I am guessing here) 12 correct bits I imagine Slimdevices marketing team happy dancing after this hypothetical specification change. :)) Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
fresh news from: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6231 Christopher Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|major |normal Target Milestone|7.1 |Future What can I say?! -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Bump I ,from specs, presume that new Duet have same mp3 decoder in firmware as Squeezebox. Shiping new product with known flaws in reproduction, hmm Come on slimdevices, you can squash that bug! -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Robin, I beg You, please stay out of this thread. Your comments brings nothing good. You have no interest in MP3 and I don't know what You are doing here. Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
As I said before, brings noting good. -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Heeelp, heeelp, slimdevices engineers, little bugs are eating our signal. +---+ |Filename: sinus1kHz -90dB.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3833| +---+ -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Robin, it seems You live here on this forum.:) Anyway, my post is little joke to refresh thread, don't understand way you are so seriousangry. P.S. Robin Bowes;248291 Wrote: 2. Use flac - it's better than mp3 anyway. You know this for the fact, I mean you did double blind test. All tests on hydrogenaudio means nothing to You? cheers, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Hi Pat, no question about that mp3 is better quality then lossless (nonsense). Right question is: Do You hear any differences between properly coded mp3 and lossless on normal listening levels. I think for 99.% of population answer is no. So my decision is to go with mp3 because of space savings zero quality reduction. cheers, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Hi Mark, going lossless is by definition best quality, You can't go wrong that way. But MP3 is for me and I believe millions others very acceptable solution. cheers, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Folks, nothing is wrong to go lossless. I don't want to argue with you about your decision to go lossless. It's totally super duper OK. But I go with MP3 because of space reduction, and results of my listening tests. Nothing is wrong or right here, it's really question of choice. You want to be sure 100%, I believe my earsbrain. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
funkstar;248380 Wrote: You mean there are tests that show FLAC is better than MP3? wow! can you post a link? No, I mean there are test that shows that mp3 is transparent to lossless (flac...) cheers, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Phil Leigh;248370 Wrote: On a more serious note, I think MP3's days on this planet are numbered. I mean, it's only a matter of time before storage/bandwidth is so cheap that nobody will be bothered to compress anything. Anyone remember the early days on the WWW/Internet? It's rather different these days. Given that compresssion=effort and the tendency of human endeavour over time is to reduce (or even eliminate) effort I think this is inevitable. Hi Phil, maybe You are right. But You disregard online services which sell music already compressed, this is important factor in my opinion. My theory is that almost all music in the future will be compressed, only small circle of audiophiles will care about lossless music. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
I think all depends on future format of music at music online stores. Most people don't do transcoding. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter test track for 24/96 vs 16/44?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38596 -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40690 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Hi dcote, You can try bug workaround listed above if you want ( tested only in 7.0). Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Hi dcote, thank you for listening. dcote;246053 Wrote: however: i can only hear the artifact if the track is quiet and the volume is turned WAY up. This is it. Bug is not showstoper but very annoying on hi-fi gear. My rough estimation is that generated noise is about -50 - -60 dB. cheers, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
dcolak;245791 Wrote: In lieu of the found problem, I would like to convert on the fly MP3 to WAV before streaming the song to SqueezeBox. I was trying to do it through File Types in Server Settings and by modifying convert.conf file, but I failed miserably. Can someone help me please? :-) Thanks. Try this. In convert.conf add mp3 wav * * [madplay] --very-quiet --bit-depth=24 --output=wave:- $FILE$ and add madplay.exe to BIN server directory. Restart, and test MP3 playback. Unfortunatelly, this dont work OK, I get mix between music and noise. You might be better luck. Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Strange. It works for me on 7.0. Try restart machine and enable madplay at mp3 file type. Good luck. Nenad P.S. Nisi slucajno Damir #268;olak(moj kolega s posla)? :)) -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Must looks like this (NOKIA 770 skin): +---+ |Filename: ftypes.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3766| +---+ -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Sorry for offtopic on Croatian: ivio Damire, ima imenjaka kod mene u Splitu pozdrav Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
And now for my hosts audiophiles, mp3 decoding in full 24-bit, as promised in slimdevices promo material: mp3 flc * * [madplay] --output=wave:- --replay-gain=audiophile --attenuate=-0 --very-quiet --bit-depth=24 $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --endian big --sign signed --channels 2 --bps 24 --sample-rate 44100 - tested in 7.0 dare to compare with lossless? cheers, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] verify possible bug
Please someone with good headphone/amp verify this possible bug as described in http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40411 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] verify possible bug
Because other decoders works correctly and SB3 built-in doesn't, at least in my opinion. Please listen for Yourself test files. I dont know for sure what effect this have on normal music. Maybe it is audible, maybe not, needs additional testing. -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40411 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] verify possible bug
but... listen to artifacts introduced by PC decoders, and compare with artifacts of builtin decoder, it's not same order of magnitude. Additionally, MAD in 24-bit mode is very similar as source file. Please listen. -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40411 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
