Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
The SBT is as good as a MDAC then... I am going to sell the MDAC yokou's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Hi I have been using a SBT for a while. I have recently bought a MDAC. I connected it to the SBT with a spdif cable. I haven't heard a big difference (if any) when I switched from A to B. A FLAC - SBT (preamp section desactivated) - MDAC (preamp section desactivated) - amplifier B FLAC - SBT (100%) - amplifier What about your experiences? What kind of improvements have you heard? yokou's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
yokou wrote: Hi I have been using a SBT for a while. I have recently bought a MDAC. I connected it to the SBT with a spdif cable. I have not heard any difference when I switched from A to B. A FLAC - SBT (preamp section desactivated) - MDAC (preamp section desactivated) - amplifier B FLAC - SBT (preamp section desactivated) - amplifier What about your experiences? What kind of improvements have you heard? Can't comment on the MDAC, but I had been using a SB3 with a Lavry DAC when I got my Touch 3 years ago. I ran them side-by-side, synced and level-matched for a couple of weeks. I found that I generally could not tell a difference, and when I could, it was so subtle as to not be worth fretting about. I sold the Lavry and haven't looked back since. mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
mlsstl wrote: Can't comment on the MDAC, but I had been using a SB3 with a Lavry DAC when I got my Touch 3 years ago. I ran them side-by-side, synced and level-matched for a couple of weeks. I found that I generally could not tell a difference, and when I could, it was so subtle as to not be worth fretting about. I sold the Lavry and haven't looked back since. 1. Level matched . 2. Reasonably well performing DAC's ,(error below human treshold of hearing) Expected results . However that can be said about most of your line level components . But things adds up in the end , so having better performing components is good even if that single component cant be distinguished in isolation , but the proper context and perspective is good . Otherwise you end up with 30k $ dac's ! A good thought is if a new DAC would be the best upgrade for the system in total . 3. Beware of some cult designed dacs NOS and tubes etc ,they may actually sound different :) this is of-course perceived as better by some (as always ) If you have more than one digital source a DAC may be unavoidable , then the MDAC seems to be a good performer for the money ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
JezA wrote: JohnW has confirmed on the pinkfishmedia forum that he will be modifying SB Touches to take a clock signal from his M-DAC and so lock to it. 'See here' (http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=109648amp;page=70) Jeza, Via USB, using triodes app, the SBT already clock locks to the MDaC (asynchronous USB) up to 24/96 - the MTRAN upgrade, will implement USB 2.0, which will allow 24/192 asynchronous connection. The dual optical connection will be 1 for the clock lock and the other for the audio data. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD big_marcelo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
firedog wrote: that is true only for the new generation of M2tech stuff that came out this year; the older stuff needs proprietary drivers and doesn't work with linux I've only played with current generation M2Tech stuff :) Stratmangler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Stratmangler wrote: Not strictly true - if you hang a M2Tech Hiface 2 out of the USB port then it's quite happy sending 24/192. The next logical step of enquiry goes along the lines of I wonder if the M2Tech Young DAC can handle 24/192 over USB? I think the answer to the question is that it's more than likely. The M2Tech stuff doesn't require the use of proprietary drivers for Linux devices, and as the Touch is running on Linux. that is true only for the new generation of M2tech stuff that came out this year; the older stuff needs proprietary drivers and doesn't work with linux firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
I use an Arcam A18 amp with my new Audiolab M-DAC and am very pleased with the combination, lots more detail emerging from CD's and streamed music files than previously when I used just my PC. phycomp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
tank121 wrote: Either way sounds great. I'm personally using it in Power mode once you've purchased it you can then Install Triodes plug in and experiment with Usb v Coaxial. I'm still undecided as currently there is very limited amounts of 192 material. *Coaxial can handle it but usb can't* Not strictly true - if you hang a M2Tech Hiface 2 out of the USB port then it's quite happy sending 24/192. Stratmangler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
gw43 wrote: I'm thinking of getting the M-Dac, and I also have an Arcam A85. Did you try it in power-amp mode, and if so where there any benefits over using the A85 as an integrated amp? Either way sounds great. I'm personally using it in Power mode once you've purchased it you can then Install Triodes plug in and experiment with Usb v Coaxial. I'm still undecided as currently there is very limited amounts of 192 material. Coxial can handle it but usb cant tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
tank121 wrote: As the MDAC has a built in pre-amp and I've since discovered I can switch my Arcam a85 into power amp mode would this be the best set up ? I'm thinking of getting the M-Dac, and I also have an Arcam A85. Did you try it in power-amp mode, and if so where there any benefits over using the A85 as an integrated amp? gw43's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11327 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
JohnW has confirmed on the pinkfishmedia forum that he will be modifying SB Touches to take a clock signal from his M-DAC and so lock to it. 'See here' (http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=109648page=70) -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Mnyb;677563 Wrote: God info . That was what I meant (in to many words ) the result are -very- different suggesting a measurement error b faulty sample c incomparable measurement methods (apples and oranges all over again ) Or any combination of the above . C is a good guess ,The issue here is measuring jitter on the spdiff reciever and other places internal in the dac makes it impossible to asses compared to other measurements ? But nevertheless interesting, But how does other sources fare using this method ? and what are the ballpark expected figures for decent performance . And how would it measure inside another DAC with different design ? And does it matter, if the DAC can fix it it's ok anyway ? It is an interesting piece of equipment , in my case I don't need a dac , but it would be on my shortlist to try out if needed one . Price/performance seems sane not the typical overpricing. C makes sense to me. Most likely the answer is buried in the definition of jitter. The Anedio measurement (for example) is using FFT which will sum the terms against a specific carrier frequency, which is a form of peak-peak jitter at the test tone. Looking at the tester used by John W - the RS UPD - it *seems* capable of measuring phase error (vs. internal reference) at the sampling clock frequency. And as long as it can sample over a long time period, it's much more harsh test than cycle-cyle jitter at (say) 11kHz. Although I confess I've not pored over the spec in detail, from my past experience of using a ~similar piece of equipment (HP 5372A) I *would* expect a much worse jitter number from the UPD, and more relevant to the audio performance that we're interested in. Happy to be corrected if my understanding of the peak-peak measurements is mistaken. -- Pete91 Pete91's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53038 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
JezA;677528 Wrote: John Westlake, the designer of the M-DAC, has posted at length on the pink fish media forum. Someone sent him a Touch to measure - according to him it was pretty dreadful - but after connecting it to his M-DAC and its two stages of jitter attenuation things seemed to get a lot better. If you check out the whole thread you'll see he is talking about modifying a Touch and introducing some kind of clock input. See 'here' (http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=108045page=31). Urgh 17Ns ? But stereophile give it a really god measurement are they quality differences between samples ? And these guys measure it to 50ps rms (300ps peak) http://www.anedio.com/index.php/article/squeezebox_touch Thats a thorny subject how to measure jitter and compress to single number to compare ? And the even thornier subject of where is the limit for audibility . There is a very long tread in this forum on that subject . it can be revived for further discussion . Some sources with controlled test suggest very very high levels to be audible some claims very low levels ?? what gives. But to be audible the jitter must disrupt the DAC enough so it's evident in it's thd and noise and intermodulation, the DAC makes an analog signal so it gives that the jitter residues must be in that signal to be heard . So the input jitter must change the analog output of the DAC sligthly . How little thd and noise can a human detect ? However from the links it seams that Audiolab design does a really good jobb recovering this. So it seems to be a solid product . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Before mods, my Touch was measured: P-P Jitter below 1MHz was 300psec, which seems quite different than what's being talked about here. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, Grant Fidelity B-283MKII bufferClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
firedog;677556 Wrote: Before mods, my Touch was measured: P-P Jitter below 1MHz was 300psec, which seems quite different than what's being talked about here. God info . That was what I meant (in to many words ) the result are -very- different suggesting a measurement error b faulty sample c incomparable measurement methods (apples and oranges all over again ) Or any combination of the above . C is a good guess ,The issue here is measuring jitter on the spdiff reciever and other places internal in the dac makes it impossible to asses compared to other measurements ? But nevertheless interesting, But how does other sources fare using this method ? and what are the ballpark expected figures for decent performance . And how would it measure inside another DAC with different design ? And does it matter, if the DAC can fix it it's ok anyway ? It is an interesting piece of equipment , in my case I don't need a dac , but it would be on my shortlist to try out if needed one . Price/performance seems sane not the typical overpricing. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Are there any benefits to connecting the Touch to the MDAC via USB ? -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
tank121;676774 Wrote: Are there any benefits to connecting the Touch to the MDAC via USB ? My reading of this forum is that no one has yet fully mastered the TOUCH USB USB DAC connection without pops, etc. And the TOUCH USB out was definitely NOT designed to feed a DAC. It was designed for attaching a data drive. Search on this topic, and pay attention to John Swenson's posts on the issue... -- garym Location 1: VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Office: Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
The USB drivers on the Touch is to OLD... only a handfull DAC can be used and its very hard to setup! And an Async. USB DAC wont work from what I known. -- RotelMan RotelMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
is not the Audiolab equiped with the sabre dac and other engineering marvels making it rather resiliant against transport problems , try spdif or optical (try optical with the coax disconected the piont is to figure if galvanic isolation is good for it ) ? i think there is a bit of hype in digital transport differences they once where a reality I still remeber my old DAC's and other equipment, but in the last decade it seems practically solved. Note there will always be a clique of people finding the difference they would still do so past the piont of perfection . so you have a modern DAC with good reputation and a good transport the Touch, so you are well engineered at both ends :) is there really an interface problem to solve ? as other said Touch seems incapable of a good async USB interface at the moment but as you have a dac with all avaible options so you can use spdif or toslink . i can't imagine that either will limit your performance Trying the Arcam in power amp mode seems interesting, try it both ways -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
As the MDAC has a built in pre-amp and I've since discovered I can switch my Arcam a85 into power amp mode would this be the best set up ? -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
It probably depends on the quality of the preamp section - and on your taste... -- MCG555 Greetings from Switzerland - Markus :-) Proac Response D15, Astintrew AT2000plus, BW Sub ASW 610, SB Touch MCG555's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
The MDAC has arrived at work, will be setting up later! -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Volume question. When setting up the DAC should be volume be set to 100% ? The Touch is set to 100% and then will feed into the DAC via Coaxial and from the DAC into will feed into my amp via RCA. -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Yes, that is what is recommended in the MDAC manual, and I have it this way, Fixed volume 100% on the Touch -- TheBear TheBear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Sorry Tank - just realised I mis-read your mail - you were talking about 100% volume ON THE MDAC. You just need to set the MDAC to standalone DAC mode - explained on p21 of the manual - to disable the built-in pre-amp if you are routing it to an integrated amp. -- TheBear TheBear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Just tried that to complete the process it ssys press the menu ot power off and it seems to loose the serting! -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Just tracked one down. It's arriving tomorrow! They had 2 in stock 1 black and 1 silver -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Lucky you! Looking forward to hearing your opinion! -- sleepysurf main system: touch benchmark dac-1 conrad-johnson ct-5 preamp and premier 350 amp ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. member of the 'suncoast audiophile society' (http://www.meetup.com/suncoast-audiophile-society/) sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Is this the same DAC as the 8200 DAC/pre, but without the pre? -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, ClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Here are the specs - http://www.audiolab.co.uk/M-DAC%20Series.aspx?lang=En -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Hi tank, I am using an MDAC with a Touch - I don't think you will be disappointed :-) It is a joy to use, the little wand remote is great to mute or swap filter settings on the fly. I run it via XLRs straight to my power amp, using the digital pre-amp in the MDAC, and it comfortably out-performs my previous setup of DacMagic + passive pre. The headphone amp is also top notch - overall, the MDAC has been one of my best hi-fi purchases, and the fact that the designer, John Westlake, takes such an interest over on PFM adds to the joy of ownership ! Just need dimmable display, which John W has indicated will be in the first user installable firmware update in a few weeks time. Best regards, George -- TheBear TheBear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
Anyone on here lucky enough to pre-order this If so, anyone using it with the Touch ? No stock now until January. -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
I've got one on pre-order from Planet of Sound. Now just waiting to see if I made the cut for the initial North American shipment. Looks like a potential killer DAC to pair with my Touch. -- sleepysurf main system: touch benchmark dac-1 conrad-johnson ct-5 preamp and premier 350 amp ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. member of the 'suncoast audiophile society' (http://www.meetup.com/suncoast-audiophile-society/) sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
