Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-11 Thread mr-b

I found the prebuilt SqueezeSlave with asio at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/softsqueeze/files/squeezeslave.

Luckily my internal soundcard seems to have an asio driver:
squeezeslave-asio --list
Output devices:
* 0: M-Audio Delta ASIO

None of my other audio devices (USB DAC and Realtek HD on mobo) show
up, but I've not used asio before so will have to do some digging on
asio4all etc.

From a brief test I *think* WASAPI sounds better than asio, but that's
not from any proper listening.
Also WASAPI interfaces appear in Foobar for all my audio devices which
is nice, so WASAPi seems to be the easier to use choice out of the box.

In case anyone is interested generally in bit perfect audio on Windows
7, I found a very useful article with config recommendations (not just
for JRMC) at
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Windows-7-Audio-J-River-Media-Center-14-Configuration.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-11 Thread fphredd

The M-Audio asio driver may be available for download.

Foobar, Media Monkey, Winamp will all run asio as well.  Not a plug for
asio, just an fyi.  It seems in theory they should sound the same, but
having no clue on the actual theory, I'll leave that to those smarter
and more educated than me.

Good luck either way; I'm all for 'whatever works'...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-11 Thread fphredd

JohnSwenson;524070 Wrote: 
 SqueezePlay will control squeezeslave quite nicely. I'm running
 squeezeslave on a very low power headless linux box and use SueezePlay
 on a windows tablet to control it. It works great. Squeezeslave just
 shows up as another player in SP's player list. 
 
 John S.

I'd like to run them on the same machine to use the Squeezeslave-asio
version (Squeezeplay doesn't support asio), and have the Squeezeplay
interface on a built in touchscreen.

I don't seem to be able to pull this off, Squeezeslave doesn't show
up...SBS on a NAS, if that matters in setup.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-10 Thread fphredd

Personally, using Squeezeslave asio version for bit perfect.  I use
iPeng to control, but you could install moose to control.  I don't know
if you can mix SqueezePlay with Squeezeslave.

Have you thought of the asio route instead of WASAPI?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-10 Thread mr-b

Interesting - I used to use SqueezeSlave in the past but had thought
that SqueezePlay was now the focal point for SB on the desktop, so I'd
not even considered it.

Also I'd thought that ASIO had been superseded by WASAPI in Windows 7.
Does it work on Win7?

The SS wiki says that you have to build an asio version so (for me) I
guess it may not be a quick process to try it out.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-10 Thread fphredd

mr-b;524019 Wrote: 
 Interesting - I used to use SqueezeSlave in the past but had thought
 that SqueezePlay was now the focal point for SB on the desktop, so I'd
 not even considered it.
 
 Also I'd thought that ASIO had been superseded by WASAPI in Windows 7.
 Does it work on Win7?
 
 The SS wiki says that you have to build an asio version so (for me) I
 guess it may not be a quick process to try it out.

I use an E-Mu soundcard with asio drivers, but asio4all may work. 
There is a squeezeslave-asio version prebuilt.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-10 Thread JohnSwenson

fphredd;524010 Wrote: 
 Personally, using Squeezeslave asio version for bit perfect.  I use
 iPeng to control, but you could install moose to control.  I don't know
 if you can mix SqueezePlay with Squeezeslave.
 /QUOTE]
 
 SqueezePlay will control squeezeslave quite nicely. I'm running
 squeezeslave on a very low power headless linux box and use SueezePlay
 on a windows tablet to control it. It works great. Squeezeslave just
 shows up as another player in SP's player list. 
 
 John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-09 Thread mr-b

Phil Leigh;523544 Wrote: 
 Can't see this being any kind of priority... use an SB device for
 bit-perfect playback!
Hmm - I doubt SqueezePlay (or SoftSqueeze, SqueezeSlave) would ever
have seen the light of day if they were considered a threat to SB
sales.

However WASAPI or other bit perfect audio support would allow SP to
keep up with the Jones' and I think only encourage those parts of the
marketplace for whom this kind of thing is important.

Tx Triode for the tip on portaudio - yes I see now that Squeezeplay
uses portaudio according to the wiki, and portaudio supports WASAPI.

So is the base code of SP getting any attention these days?


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-08 Thread mr-b

Hi

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but I figured ppl
on here would know! ;-)

I really like having SqueezePlay as a soft SB player for my PC, however
bit-perfect playback support via WASAPI in Vista, Windows 7 etc. seems
to be getting common in other s/w players e.g. Foobar2k, J. River MC.

So does anyone know whether WASAPI support is planned for SqueezePlay?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-08 Thread Phil Leigh

mr-b;523533 Wrote: 
 Hi
 
 Not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but I figured ppl
 on here would know! ;-)
 
 I really like having SqueezePlay as a soft SB player for my PC, however
 bit-perfect playback support via WASAPI in Vista, Windows 7 etc. seems
 to be getting common in other s/w players e.g. Foobar2k, J. River MC.
 
 So does anyone know whether WASAPI support is planned for SqueezePlay?

Can't see this being any kind of priority... use an SB device for
bit-perfect playback!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-08 Thread andyg

Patches are more than welcome. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-08 Thread Themis

mr-b;523533 Wrote: 
 Hi
 
 Not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but I figured ppl
 on here would know! ;-)
 
 I really like having SqueezePlay as a soft SB player for my PC, however
 bit-perfect playback support via WASAPI in Vista, Windows 7 etc. seems
 to be getting common in other s/w players e.g. Foobar2k, J. River MC.
 
 So does anyone know whether WASAPI support is planned for SqueezePlay?
You may need WASAPI as you use (Windows) drivers for audio playback.
Squeezebox doesn't use any audio drivers, as the files are sent over
Ethernet, so no need for wasapi or other audio drivers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit perfect SqueezePlay and WASAPI support?

2010-03-08 Thread Triode

I think the latest version of portaudio supports WASAPI - I've not tried
though.  Another reason to look at this though...


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