Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
Guys, please refrain from posts about body mutilation and suicide. Any more posts like that and this thread gets deleted. Thanks, Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
mvalera;206738 Wrote: Guys, please refrain from posts about body mutilation and suicide. Any more posts like that and this thread gets deleted. Thanks, Mike spoilsport :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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mvalera wrote: Guys, please refrain from posts about body mutilation and suicide. Any more posts like that and this thread gets deleted. Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. Audiophiles are about love of music. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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nicketynick wrote: Pat Farrell;206764 Wrote: Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. Audiophiles are about love of music. There's always somebody who brings up Wagner. threadkiller! :-) Of course the best Wagner Opera is Bugs Bunny's version What's Opera, Doc? Bugs is in drag as the Valkyrie Brunhilde who sits on an overwieght horse. She is pursued by Elmer playing the demigod Siegfried It is funny as a Bugs cartoon, but if you know about Opera, it is fabulous. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
Pat Farrell;206764 Wrote: mvalera wrote: Guys, please refrain from posts about body mutilation and suicide. Any more posts like that and this thread gets deleted. Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. Audiophiles are about love of music. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ There's always somebody who brings up Wagner. threadkiller! :-) -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/ nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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If it was me I apologize. I'm usually one to take a joke a bit too far... Post deleted. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Pat Farrell;206776 Wrote: nicketynick wrote: Pat Farrell;206764 Wrote: Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. Audiophiles are about love of music. There's always somebody who brings up Wagner. threadkiller! :-) Of course the best Wagner Opera is Bugs Bunny's version What's Opera, Doc? Bugs is in drag as the Valkyrie Brunhilde who sits on an overwieght horse. She is pursued by Elmer playing the demigod Siegfried It is funny as a Bugs cartoon, but if you know about Opera, it is fabulous. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Oh great - first he kills the thread with a Wagner reference, and now he brings up 'hunting wabbits'! This has gone too far. (or am I mixing up my operas? - is that the barbershop spoof?) -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/ nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
nicketynick wrote: Pat Farrell;206776 Wrote: Of course the best Wagner Opera is Bugs Bunny's version What's Opera, Doc? Bugs is in drag as the Valkyrie Brunhilde who sits on an overwieght horse. She is pursued by Elmer playing the demigod Siegfried It is funny as a Bugs cartoon, but if you know about Opera, it is Oh great - first he kills the thread with a Wagner reference, and now he brings up 'hunting wabbits'! This has gone too far. (or am I mixing up my operas? - is that the barbershop spoof?) Kill the Wabbit! Kill the Wabbit! Sung by elmer. I believe it is the only Bugs cartoon where Elmer beats Bugs. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Pat Farrell;206764 Wrote: Thank you. I was repulsed by how that thread degraded. Audiophiles are about love of music. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Like in music before sound? M, hm, didn't get that impression from any of audiophile forums I attend :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
Pale Blue Ego;206279 Wrote: I find that spinning CDs in a 52x CD-ROM drive for a few hours ... oil ... lubricating ... reinserted. Conversations like this cause me to convulse. Keep up the good work! -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Pale Blue Ego;206279 Wrote: I find that spinning CDs in a 52x CD-ROM ... elongate some of the zeros ... 50% more resolution... 8 bits of resolution for free. Interesting. Does the same effect occur when I stream to the SB3 with a connection lag? Say, if it's really foggy out and the wi-fi signal elongates en-route from my PowerMac to the router and on to the SB. That could also explain why longer component cables cost more. Never mind price per foot. A 40' digital coax made of high O2 copper and tin with aluminum coated RCA connectors must help tweeze out that extra resolution between the SB and DAC. -- kphinney SB3 - Zhaolu D2.5 -JoLida 102B - Omega Grand 6's. - AKG K501's kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
Pale Blue Ego;206279 Wrote: I find that spinning CDs in a 52x CD-ROM drive for a few hours tends to elongate some of the zeros, making them slightly more one-like. This provides 50% more resolution, since instead of just 0s and 1s, you have bits that are halfway between. It's like getting an additional 8 bits of resolution for free... I found somethng similar, but my results vary somewhat. I seem to be getting non liner response from the whole process, where tracks positioned closer to the edge of the CD get more resolution than the tracks closer to the hole. I guess, it's because bits closer to the edge are exposed to higher linear speed. Difference is so significant that I can clearly detect it between the first and the last track without any DBT. However, when listening sequentially, differences are more subtle, but still discernable, so much so that even my wife sometimes comes from the kitchen (where she burns in all kinds of stuff) asking my why I keep listening those tracks close to the hole. That's why I'm not sure if I should invest in audiophile grade centrifugal force that would be able to defeat those pesky Newton's principals, or just get a big drill and drill out inner half of the disc. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Even better results are obtained by drilling tiny holes randomly in the CD. This causes greater use of error correction resulting in more bit perfect copies. In DBT (deaf blind testing) even the deaf people could hear an extraordinary improvement. Conversly, drilling a hole in the heads of test subjects did not result in a positive outcome. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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tomjtx;206365 Wrote: Conversly, drilling a hole in the heads of test subjects did not result in a positive outcome. Or did it? http://www.bmezine.com/news/people/A10101/trepan/ This weekend I had a hole drilled through my skull. I read that this increased ones consciousness permanently. I read about the supposed de-conditioning properties. I read about more parts of the brain working simultaneously as there would be more blood up there to help this happen. The arguments for it all seemed to be quite lengthy, quite detailed, thought out and researched, and very intelligent. The arguments against it were based solely on the opinion that it is crazy and talk like, Whats more conscious than conscious?. I heard from an acquaintance on telephone that she was glad she had done it, felt more mental energy, and had days of brilliance. I came to believe that the key to a permanent consciousness increase was a hole in the skull, to restore the full brain pulsation of infancy. After several months of research, discussion, speculation, watching surgical videos and trepanation documentaries, and even an actual viewing of a trepanation, I decided I certainly did want to be trepanned, and sought a way to do it. Okay... -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I have read that audio equipment is as good as it can get and that if you want to improve the sound further the only option left (after suitable acoustic treatment of the room) is to modify the listener to enhance their perceptual abilities. I read on one of the hi-end forums that if you put the barrel of a loaded shotgun in your mouth, flip off the safety, and pull the trigger, your stereo system will suddenly sound like a choir of angels! There was some argument about how/why this could work, but in the end I sided with the guys who said music isn't about measurements and explanations. It's about feelings... I can't wait to try it! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
Let's not forget to defragment the CD occasionally. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated neighbors. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
I figure since I've had to burn in my cables, and tubes, and amp, phones, DAC, and speakers, I may just as well burn in my CD's before I rip them to FLAC. After all the laser must loosen up those digits on the disk a bit, right? What do you recommend; 100 hours of constant play before they develop the desired sound? -- kphinney SB3 - Zhaolu D2.5 -JoLida 102B - Omega Grand 6's. - AKG K501's kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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It's not so much the laser as the handling that CDs typically go through over the years which if done correctly can have a favorable effect on the bits. Inserting and removing CDs from their packaging gradually reduces the shininess of the surface. Some shiny is OK, the laser needs that to detect 1s vs 0s. But if the surface is too shiny, the 1s will have kind a halo, and this can make them appear to have a more zero-like shape as they are read by the tiny camera in the CD transport. This is why brand new CDs often sound significantly louder than ones that have been on the shelf for a long time. If you are ripping new CDs, just putting htem in the CD player for a few hours is not going to do much to them. In fact the sustained spinning can cause dilation of the data due to centrifugal force - you really don't want that as it will reduce the playback pitch in the same way that an excessively capacitive s/pdif cable can. Instead it is recommended to simulate the effects of normal day-to-day handling, and this can easily be done with medium grit sandpaper and an orbital sander (NOT a belt or drum type, those are only for tapes). Press gently and scrub in a circular pattern until the glare of the surface has been reduced to a normal level. Then it should rip accurately. Good luck! -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Don't forget to apply a drop of virgin olive oil before ripping! -- michel michel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4393 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Patrick Dixon;206239 Wrote: Centrifugal or centripetal? Good point, I should not just assume everyone is in the northern hemisphere. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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seanadams;206233 Wrote: In fact the sustained spinning can cause dilation of the data due to centrifugal force ... Centrifugal or centripetal? -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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seanadams;206241 Wrote: Good point, I should not just assume everyone is in the northern hemisphere. In Buenos Aires the water goes down the drain in reverse (probably one of the reasons they have more therapists per capita than even New York) My audiophile friends there all mod their cd players to spin the other way and claim a vast improvement. Makes perfect sense. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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kphinney;206237 Wrote: Isn't olive oil only for Italian Opera? Not if it's a Mozart opera, then you need beer. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Isn't olive oil only for Italian Opera? -- kphinney SB3 - Zhaolu D2.5 -JoLida 102B - Omega Grand 6's. - AKG K501's kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
kphinney;206229 Wrote: I figure since I've had to burn in my cables, and tubes, and amp, phones, DAC, and speakers, I may just as well burn in my CD's before I rip them to FLAC. After all the laser must loosen up those digits on the disk a bit, right? What do you recommend; 100 hours of constant play before they develop the desired sound? The only thing that needs breakin is speakers. Break in cables, too funny. But if you want to burn up useful life of your burner, go for it. The laser head is floating in a magnetic field. There is nothing to break in. Check out Bryston's comments on break in. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35553 -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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mswlogo;206244 Wrote: The only thing that needs breakin is speakers. Break in cables, too funny. But if you want to burn up useful life of your burner, go for it. The laser head is floating in a magnetic field. There is nothing to break in. Check out Bryston's comments on break in. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35553 Burning in cables is well worth the effort and if you have a convection oven you don't even need to pre heat. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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mswlogo;206244 Wrote: But if you want to burn up useful life of your burner, go for it. The laser head is floating in a magnetic field. There is nothing to break in. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35553 Sounds a bit counter intuitive. If there is no break-in then there shouldn't be a useful life if proper care and maintenance is maintained, no? What burns out or gives up the ghost in a transport that couldn't change with time, if that time were considered break-in time? My thread opener was actually tongue-in-cheek. -- kphinney SB3 - Zhaolu D2.5 -JoLida 102B - Omega Grand 6's. - AKG K501's kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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tomjtx wrote: kphinney;206237 Wrote: Isn't olive oil only for Italian Opera? Not if it's a Mozart opera, then you need beer. Pils or Alt or ? For Wagner, you need many beers -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Pat Farrell;206248 Wrote: tomjtx wrote: kphinney;206237 Wrote: Isn't olive oil only for Italian Opera? Not if it's a Mozart opera, then you need beer. Pils or Alt or ? For Wagner, you need many beers -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Many beers and a bathroom VERY close. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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kphinney;206247 Wrote: Sounds a bit counter intuitive. If there is no break-in then there shouldn't be a useful life if proper care and maintenance is maintained, no? What burns out or gives up the ghost in a transport that couldn't change with time, if that time were considered break-in time? My thread opener was actually tongue-in-cheek. Plastic worm gears that drive the head back and forth get to lose over time or get sticky from dried up grease. The Laser head (lens) is what does the fine tracking. It's pretty much all or nothing. It can track properly or it can't. Eventually it won't. Rubber belts also dry up or stretch that spin the disk and open the draw. Time, heat and use wear it out. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Time, heat and use wear it out. That would also describe the human condition :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I'm assuming quite a few plays are required for some CDs. After years these GWAR discs still sound bad. -- blessingx Squeezebox 3 + Lavry DA1Ø + Woo Audio 6 + Ultrasone 25ØØ / Sennheiser HD65Ø/58Ø/595 blessingx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11754 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I found that a bath in methylene chloride, commonly known as paint stripper, taking the plastic layer off the metal, makes it much easier for the camera in the disc player to see the 1's and 0's. All halos that can make 1's look like 0s are eliminated. The lower mass of the disc reduces the load on the motor so modulation of the power supply voltage that feeds the DAC is reduced. Also, the focus coil for the camera lens has to work less because the metal surface is much smoother than the plastic surface. This too, leads to lower power supply modulation. -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
tyler_durden;206262 Wrote: I found that a bath in methylene chloride, commonly known as paint stripper, taking the plastic layer off the metal, makes it much easier for the camera in the disc player to see the 1's and 0's. All halos that can make 1's look like 0s are eliminated. The lower mass of the disc reduces the load on the motor so modulation of the power supply voltage that feeds the DAC is reduced. Also, the focus coil for the camera lens has to work less because the metal surface is much smoother than the plastic surface. This too, leads to lower power supply modulation. Only if it's audiophile paint stripper, which I also sell at only 100.00 per ounce. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
I find that spinning CDs in a 52x CD-ROM drive for a few hours tends to elongate some of the zeros, making them slightly more one-like. This provides 50% more resolution, since instead of just 0s and 1s, you have bits that are halfway between. It's like getting an additional 8 bits of resolution for free. Some laser pickups can recognize several gradations of elongation, resulting in 32-bit or even 48-bit resolution. Just don't spin the disc for more than 4 hours or all the bits will turn into ones. If this happens, immersion in peanut oil can partially reverse the process. This also has the effect of lubricating crucial moving parts inside the drive, once the disc is reinserted. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
