Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Longevity and getting old stuff serviced
I'm just about to get my Quad IIs, pre-amp and tuner back and will be adding some speakers, an SB2 and possible a home made power supply. Won't be my main system though. MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Bryston 4B ST PMC OB1s. or not SB3 NAIM NAC 102 NAIM NAP 180 Shahinian Arcs http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Longevity and getting old stuff serviced
I still roll with 25+ year old Quad gear, and I love it! Both my amp and preamp really need to be rebuilt to some degree, but I'm a student, so I can't complain for now. I hope to continue to use my SB3 for centuries to come, but, like all things computer related obsolescence is probably more of a factor than lifespan. That being said, if my SB lasts me 10 or so years I'll be pretty happy. -- LikeButtah *2-Channel:* SB3 Quad 33 Quad 303 Dynaudio Audience 52 *Home Theatre:* Yamaha DVD-S657 Yamaha RXV-557 Tannoy Fusion F3s/F1s/FC Not bad for a student, eh? LikeButtah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7258 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Longevity and getting old stuff serviced
adamslim;195953 Wrote: So the Slim Devices angle questions are: - What is the life expectancy of SD products? New models every couple of years? Hopelessly outperformed after five years? Unserviceable after seven? Just the nature of the current tech? I am now upgrading my SB3 for a second time, and I've not even had it a year! Given that the old SliMP3s and SB1s are still out there and still run on the latest SlimServer, I'd say it's quite good. Isn't serial number 1 still operational? I think Dan Sully owns it, or maybe Dean Blackketter? It's very different technology though. Amps haven't changed all that much, really (yeah I know someone will quote some obscure super-rare exception). About the only significant thing has been the rise of class D. The realm of networked digital audio players is totally different - the SliMP3 really introduced it, and since then, there's been the rise of wireless networking, lossless codecs, digital outputs, multiple codecs, etc. You can't stay with the same device since this technology is changing so rapidly, and to Slim Devices' credit, the first SliMP3s aren't really obsolete - they will still play MP3s like they always have, but they can do it off the latest SlimServer 7.0a1. Anyone got older equipment in their main system? People will laugh at me, but since they do anyway, I have an early '80s vintage Hafler DH-200 amp. I don't care what they say, I like it. It's built like a tank, it's got gobs of reserve power and I have never been able to make it hotter than even lukewarm. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Longevity and getting old stuff serviced
I think the long term reliability issues will come from the complex IC's, rather than anything else. They can be built for 20+ years of service, but most aren't these days... Most consumer product life cycles don't demand that length of service (who here owns a 10 year old cell phone?) and the makers of these products won't spend the money for longer term reliability... Having said that, I've got several bits of fairly old gear in my rig, including a 25 year old Bryston 3B amplifier, and a Classe DR3. I've a special love for the Bryston, because of the way they retroactively extended my original 5 year warranty to 20 years! How often has that happened to you? Cheers, Dave -- DCtoDaylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Longevity and getting old stuff serviced
I have a Luman L4 amp that I bought in 1980, which I'm pretty sure I can still get repaired by at least one hifi dealer here in Perth. I'm sure there are lots of better amps around, but I suspect I'd have to spend serious money to get much improvement. -- swhite58 Linux file server-SB3-Luxman L4-Gale 3020 speakers swhite58's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5038 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Longevity and getting old stuff serviced
DCtoDaylight;195976 Wrote: I think the long term reliability issues will come from the complex IC's, rather than anything else. They can be built for 20+ years of service, but most aren't these days... The vaccum-fluorescent display will crap-out long before the semiconductors are a problem. Semiconductors tend to fail quickly (infant-mortality) or not for a very long time. Look at any VCR with a vacuum fluorescent-display. They grow dim over a period of just a few years. It won't matter- the the electronics and display will last long enough for the whole thing to become obsolete in a year or two. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
