[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for a DAC ......
Thanks for all your inputs. Now I have to figure a way of getting a loan of a Lavry or Benchmark to see what you guys are raving about. -- killie99 killie99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8337 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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killie99;160986 Wrote: Thanks for all your inputs. Now I have to figure a way of getting a loan of a Lavry or Benchmark to see what you guys are raving about. Last time I decided to try out a new DAC, Digital Village in Barnet were happy to sell me their demo Lucid DA2496 (this was before the Benchmark existed) on the understanding that I could return it if it didn't come up to scratch, or exchange it for a brand new one if I liked it. (I ended up returning for a refund). Maybe you could try asking them if they'd consider the same approach on a Benchmark? -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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The Mhdt labs nos dacs have been getting a lot of attention recently and they are relatively inexpensive. http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0406/mhdt_laboratory_dac.htm http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmhdtlab -- rajacat rajacat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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highdudgeon;160839 Wrote: Pro gear is the way to go -- highest quality and more reasonable prices. value. Some audiophiles are too snobby for it. Well, I know one with Dali Megalines who uses a Lavry Blue. The point is output quality, yes? If Benchmarks and Lavrys are good enough for mastering studios then they are absolutely good enough for home use. I agree there is usually decent value in pro gear, expecially if you are using it for a pro job, like recording, etc :) Mastering engineers have very different objectives in listening to sound than audiophiles. I would take audio listening advice from most mastering engineers with a grain of salt. Pro sound and high end audio are two separate worlds with little in common. Van Alstine UltraDAC and the new Bel Canto are excellent, very musically enjoyable DACs in the $1000-2000 category. -- richidoo richidoo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3097 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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highdudgeon;160839 Wrote: If Benchmarks and Lavrys are good enough for mastering studios then they are absolutely good enough for home use. Considering how poorly some recordings are released these days, I don't know if this is necessarily good criteria... ;-) -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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highdudgeon;161135 Wrote: You're not kidding...and it's gonna get worse. highdudgeon, could you please explain? -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Lavry, Benchmark, Mytek...these seem to be fav's -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for a DAC ......
Unfortunately none of these are readily available in the UK and anything sourced from the US will probably be 120V instead of 220V but thanks for taking the time to reply. I'll check to see if any of them can accomodate 120-240V. -- killie99 killie99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8337 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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killie99;160725 Wrote: Unfortunately none of these are readily available in the UK. You're probably looking in the wrong type of stores. HiFi shops won't stock these products - they are primarily professional studio equipment, and you need to go to pro studio dealers to get them. Places like Sound Tools, Digital Village and the like. Looking at Sound Tools' website, I see the Benchmark DAC1 is £665, and the Lavry DA10 is £589. Digital Village stock the Benchmark, but not the Lavry. -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I don't know about Benchmark and Mytek, but I know for a fact that the Lavry is 120-240 50/60hz. You can use it in the UK by swapping out the power cord or just using an adapter. Look at the Lavry web site and contact them for distributor info -- I'm certain you can get one in the UK. Worst case, EMS from the states would take 3 days or so. killie99;160725 Wrote: Unfortunately none of these are readily available in the UK and anything sourced from the US will probably be 120V instead of 220V but thanks for taking the time to reply. I'll check to see if any of them can accomodate 120-240V. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Yopu might want to listen to the MF dacs... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Pro gear is the way to go -- highest quality and more reasonable prices. value. Some audiophiles are too snobby for it. Well, I know one with Dali Megalines who uses a Lavry Blue. The point is output quality, yes? If Benchmarks and Lavrys are good enough for mastering studios then they are absolutely good enough for home use. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Phil Leigh;160798 Wrote: Yopu might want to listen to the MF dacs... I disagree Phil, I bought a MF Tri-vista DAC a few years ago... it was very average IMHO and soon got sold. It's funny there were only 1200 of these made but I can always find plenty of the up for sale. I use to like MF stuff 5-10 years ago but these days I find little in their range I like. I find the Lavry and Benchmark out perform it. -- dlite dlite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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dlite;160838 Wrote: I disagree Phil, I bought a MF Tri-vista DAC a few years ago... it was very average IMHO and soon got sold. It's funny there were only 1200 of these made but I can always find plenty of the up for sale. I use to like MF stuff 5-10 years ago but these days I find little in their range I like. I find the Lavry and Benchmark out perform it. Much of it is personal taste and system synergy. In contrast to the above comment, I very much liked the MF Tri-Vista DAC and Lavry, yet found the Benchmark very edgy, sharp, and analytical. And while it trailed all of these DACs in the amounts of detail and imaging, I preferred the Bel Canto DAC2 to all of the above for its warmth and musicality in my system...(unfortunately, the DAC2 is no longer in production, but used ones can be found for very good prices...) -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Why not Musical Fidelity gears since u r right in the middle of UK? I currently enjoy the A3.24 ($600 US) very much over my high end Sony SACD 9000ES player. It is warmer, lusher full bodied sound w/ high quality output stage that works very well w/ my passive volume control unit. SB3MF3.24DAC2 Nak PA7sBW 802NNice! -- empty99 empty99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3488 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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killie99;160725 Wrote: Unfortunately none of these are readily available in the UK and anything sourced from the US will probably be 120V instead of 220V but thanks for taking the time to reply. I'll check to see if any of them can accomodate 120-240V. Go to Crookwood.com. Crispin Herrod-Taylor, the owner/designer of Crookwood, designs CD mastering consoles. We have one of the largest systems he has designed and his gear is some of the best rated in the ProAudio biz!! He's in your area -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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PhilNYC;160862 Wrote: Much of it is personal taste and system synergy. In contrast to the above comment, I very much liked the MF Tri-Vista DAC and Lavry, yet found the Benchmark very edgy, sharp, and analytical. And while it trailed all of these DACs in the amounts of detail and imaging, I preferred the Bel Canto DAC2 to all of the above for its warmth and musicality in my system...(unfortunately, the DAC2 is no longer in production, but used ones can be found for very good prices...) I agree with the above - it is down to system synergy and personal preference. There are no absolutes. I find the MF DAC's to warm up my otherwise slightly grey-sounding system. The Benchmark was too cold for me. I hear good things about the new v8 Dac's which would be a 1-box solution for me, so I will certainly investigate them. -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30408 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
