Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
FYI there is no newer touch firmware than 7.8.x something so that's ok . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
Ok 7.9 server installed however SBT firmware only updated to 7.8 and indeed the screen off option isn't working. sdiesel77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
sckramer wrote: > > I suggest the usb output only if you have an *asynchronous* usb DAC, > else use the coax. This varies of course, you should try each. > Yes, it depends on the DAC. Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
sdiesel77 wrote: > Reopening this thread as still no answer found > Any idea how to make TT3 work on USB? I suggest you abandon TT3, this was built and tweaked before EDO, and the latest touch firmware (7.8.something) Update your LMS to the 7.9 nightly, this ensures you have the latest/last touch firmware. Factory reset the touch, install the EDO applet. On the new "Digital Output" menu, set it to digital only. Try the large buffer, kernel idle option (avoid low power) Install the DisplayOff applet. (yes it has a bug where the backlight stays on after playlist completes, but it kills the screen process, lcd, and light) I forget how but I was able to work around it. Turn off all sound effects, animations, screensavers, etc. Use a UTP ethernet cable if possible, don't use WLAN. This easy stuff, all accessible in the menus. CiAudio VDC-SB - raspberry pi b+ hifiberry digi+ (BNC added, removed TOSlink) piCorePlayer (play song from RAM) --> Use as controller/desk/reference: Touch (EDO / screen off plugin, linear power, removed analog coupling caps, removed TOSlink & resistor, added spdif isolation transformer & bnc jack ) PSAudio TRIO C-100 (Cullen III, IcePower 300ASC's) - DLIII DAC (Cullen IV) - Energy Veritas w/Mundorf/Erse Xovers - 2x MartinLogan Descent i - Dectet - Cardas - BlackCat XV-Ultra sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
Whoa, who puked linux scripts on the forums? :D CiAudio VDC-SB - raspberry pi b+ hifiberry digi+ (BNC added, removed TOSlink) piCorePlayer (play song from RAM) --> Use as controller/desk/reference: Touch (EDO / screen off plugin, linear power, removed analog coupling caps, removed TOSlink & resistor, added spdif isolation transformer & bnc jack ) PSAudio TRIO C-100 (Cullen III, IcePower 300ASC's) - DLIII DAC (Cullen IV) - Energy Veritas w/Mundorf/Erse Xovers - 2x MartinLogan Descent i - Dectet - Cardas - BlackCat XV-Ultra sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
sdiesel77 wrote: > Reopening this thread as still no answer found > Any idea how to make TT3 work on USB? I think the consensus is that TT3 doesn't work very well together with EDO. Why would you need TT3 anyway? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
sdiesel77 wrote: > Hi All, > I made these notes when I was messing around with the Touch and EDO/TT3, > don't know if you can make anything of them. > > If you want to use these settings then it is best to copy the whole text > into a text file as sometimes the lines get truncated if copying line by > line. > > These settings attempt to remove the digital sound from the Touch > playback, from my own findings and feedback from people who have used > them the result is a smoother more analogue and yet still detailed sound > which some people may prefer. > > They do this by using larger tcp and alsa_buffer sizes and other tcp > settings as well as optimised kernel and priority settings . > > Whether the they are the best settings for your system is obviously open > to debate, I am happy with them in my system and I have tried XXhighend, > JRMC, Foobar2000, ASIO, WASAPI, KS etc and keep coming back to the > Touch, TT3.0, EDO and these settings. > > Warning - these settings are ones I am using in my system without any > issues. They may not work in other systems and it is your responsibility > to ensure that any code is backed up before changing and you know how to > back out the changes. > > No liability is accepted by the author for any damages caused by the use > of these settings. > > Thanks to Soundcheck for TT3.0, Triode for the EDO mod and the members > of the SlimDevices Forum who were brave enough to try these and provide > valuable feedback. > > I am using these settings asynchronously connected to a Musical Fidelity > V Link 192 - best sound I have heard, layer upon layer of detail. > Amazing. So congratulations again to Triode for his hard work. > > However, the base EDO sound is quite thin and lacking bass, I have > included settings to solve this - sections 1,3,4 and 5. > > Am using alsa buffer of 9, periodcount of 64 and large rmem > values without a problem. > > These modification are designed to improve the sound of the Logitech > Squeezebox Touch and are based on an ethernet attached digital out > Touch. Wireless and analogue out setups may also benefit, but may need > different settings. > > It is recommended to have the Triode EDO and Soundcheck TT3.0 mods > applied first or TT3.0 as a minimum. > > http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/touch-toolbox-30.html > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94512-Announce-Enhanced-Digital-Output-app-USB-Dac-and-192k-Digital-Ouput > > I use tagged WAV files or uncompressed FLAC files created using > DBPoweramp. The best sound is obtained by decoding on the server rather > than the Touch, otherwise the settings will need to be changed to cope > with the extra load on the Touch. > > usb dac connected Touches will need IRQ-37 given a higher priority (95), > the settings have been been used successfully by a few people including > myself. > > do this by changing the following in the priority section > > PRIOIRQ37=0 > > to > > PRIOIRQ37=95 > > and > > chrt -o -p $PRIOIRQ37 $PIDIRQ37 >/dev/null 2>&1 > > to > > chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ37 $PIDIRQ37 >/dev/null 2>&1 > > and > > PRIOIRQ47=36 > > to > > PRIOIRQ47=0 > > and > > chrt -f -p $PRIOIRQ47 $PIDIRQ47 >/dev/null 2>&1 > > to > > chrt -o -p $PRIOIRQ47 $PIDIRQ47 >/dev/null 2>&1 > > If going back to using digital out then just reverse the settings > above. > > note - the 1200 figure in the following lines (see step 3) can be > increased to 42958848 maximum to improve the sound, however the sound > does tend to have hiccups and may pause in some setups, in which case > lower the values. I use the 42958848 value without any problems. > > echo "1200" > /proc/sys/net/core/rmem_max > echo "1200" > /proc/sys/net/core/rmem_default > echo "655360" > /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_max > echo "65536" > /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_default > echo "4096 1200 1200" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_rmem > > The settings below use 10 as the alsa buffer value, this is the > minimum value that gives the largest buffer size, it's a bit technical > to explain why. The maximum is 9, but some people have problems > with that setting. For EDO users with a USBDAC connected to the Touch > the 10 setting is recommended. > > If you are streaming low sample rate radio etc then a periodcount of 2 > works otherwise 10 is a good value to use with alsa buffer of 10. I > am using alsa_buffer of 9 and periodcount of 64. > > TCP settings on the server - these also make a difference. I have Nagles > algorithm disabled (using TCPOptimiser) and the RWin value set to > 1073741823 (can be set directly in the registry - even though it is not > supposed to have an effect in Win7 there is an audible difference). > > EDO specific changes > > if you have the triode enhanced digital output (EDO) installed make the > following 3 changes, if you don't have EDO installed go to change 4. > copy and paste don't try typing the values in case of mistakes. > > If you have
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
Reopening this thread as still no answer found Any idea how to make TT3 work on USB? sdiesel77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
Nobody? #128565; sdiesel77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
sdiesel77 wrote: Nobody? #128565; From memory to get both to work together you need to install TT3.0 first then EDO. BUT then you need to modify some of the boot batch files to turn off various TT options so they do not conflict. I can't remember the details sorry. IMO if you have to pick one or the other, factory reset and go with EDO. That said I really miss some TT3 options especially the solid screen-off feature. EDO (and the screensaver) do not work anywhere near as well as they don't actually turn the screen off, just blacken it, but the backlight is still on and the screen still generates electrical noise, keeps the SBT warm and will shorten the life of the SBT. Another thing I miss, and I don't think its actually a TT3 feature, but the ability to manually set certain process priorities made the SBT operation more seamless - with factory priorities operations are slow and playing files of different sampling rates plays the next track at the wrong speed for a few seconds. With certain priorities upped, track changes with different sampling rates is instantaneous. HumanMedia's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44865 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch + Toolbox 3 + EDO = XRUN Buffer issue
Hi All, I have currently an issue with my Squeezebox Touch using it with a USB2 DAC (Jkenny Ciunas). I have installed EDO and it's working well, however I have the impression that I had a better sound quality with the Toolbox3 from soundcheck (with my previous spdif dac). I tried to use the TT3 on my USB2 Dac but I have a buffer (Xrun) issue. Would anybody have a solution? What I have done so far: - Installed EDO on the SBT - Installed the TT3 - Tried all possible buffer sizes - Uninstalled EDO No positive result, still the same Xrun issue Thanks sdiesel77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103153 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
