Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
chill wrote: > He's a man of wealth and taste. Nice! I've been around for a long, long year Stole many a man's soul to waste An oldie, but a goodie. You can add this to your catchy tunes thread! Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets and Squeeseslave Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model B/Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave Headphones and car - Android phone/Bluetooth w/full library on MicroSD card - PowerAmp music player app (similar to Material Skin) w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Julf wrote: > I am sorry, but I am not at liberty to discuss the nature of my client. Socratic Trolls, Inc. -- 4 TB Drobo-->FW 800-->mac mini-->Ethernet Transporter--> Wireworld Eclipse 6 coax-->Meridian G61 G61--> Nordost Red Dawn-->Primare 30.3 Primare-->Ocos--Vienna Acoustics Beethoven/Maestro netchord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
netchord wrote: > pleased to meet you, i think we've guessed your name; but what's > puzzling me is the nature of your game? I am sorry, but I am not at liberty to discuss the nature of my client. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
He's a man of wealth and taste. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Julf wrote: > Can you remind me, and explain what specific aspects of audio quality > they affect, and how? pleased to meet you, i think we've guessed your name; but what's puzzling me is the nature of your game? -- 4 TB Drobo-->FW 800-->mac mini-->Ethernet Transporter--> Wireworld Eclipse 6 coax-->Meridian G61 G61--> Nordost Red Dawn-->Primare 30.3 Primare-->Ocos--Vienna Acoustics Beethoven/Maestro netchord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
garym wrote: > I used fixed output from the Benchmark and use SB (and ipeng, etc.) to > control volume. I use the variable output out of the DAC2HGC to the power amp. The DAC2 colume is around 12oclock as a rule (the Toslink audio out of the TV is fixed, so I need the DAC2 as a volume control, but seldom change it), and for music the Touch controls volume anywhere from 40% to 100%. Works very well. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
callesoroe wrote: > Hi Gary! > > I have Just purchased a used Benchmark DAC1 and a Touch to powered > Active Studio Monitors for my little office setup. Do you use the > variable output of the balanced XLR outputs ?? Or do you use fixed > output and use SB to > control volume ?? > > Cheers Michael I used fixed output from the Benchmark and use SB (and ipeng, etc.) to control volume. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
garym wrote: > > p.s. At my weekend cottage I have a TOUCH feeding an original Benchmark > I DAC. I use the Benchmark because I had it before I ever had a > squeezebox and it allows me to use balanced connectors on the analog > side. I very much like the way this sounds as well. Hi Gary! I have Just purchased a used Benchmark DAC1 and a Touch to powered Active Studio Monitors for my little office setup. Do you use the variable output of the balanced XLR outputs ?? Or do you use fixed output and use SB to control volume ?? Cheers Michael Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Receiver - S.M.S.L DAC, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Office: Transporter, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
sgmlaw wrote: > I think I gave you a clue why. And I think I also identified > specifically where in the TP corners were cut. Can you remind me, and explain what specific aspects of audio quality they affect, and how? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Fizbin wrote: > I used to be a "measurements is everything" kind of person. Then I > started listening to some of the best measured DAC's on Audio Science > Review and I was surprised to not only hear level matched differences > with bass/treble, etc, but also soundstage as well. The RME ADI-2 > DAC/PRO for example has a slightly wider soundstage than the > Transporter, but it's not natural, IMO, as it can shift the vocals too > far out of the center range. I notice it more with digitized vinyl > (vinyl typically has a wider soundstage...depending on equipment used) > than with CD's. I was really excited when I got the ADI-2 and my bias > was with it all the way but it sounded bright and fatiguing. In all > fairness, the unit has tons of tweaks but I don't think any of them > would improve it a great deal. > > I do not believe that the price of a DAC reflects the sound or quality. > A $4000 or even a $40,000 DAC could possibly be the worst sounding DAC > out there. I have no doubt in the future that a DAC costing $300 could > POSSIBLY sound better than the Transporter, but we're not there yet. > (Unless one has slipped past my radar but I doubt it) > > I'll still check Amir's measurements before buying a DAC but lately I > find reading comments and reviews (not so much magazine reviews) is more > beneficial. I agree, and ( ideally home) demos of audio gear are even better! iwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Julf wrote: > To the same input on the DAC? > > Yes > > > The jitter from a Touch is below audible levels. That may be true. I make no claims to the contrary, although some research indicates that very low levels of jitter can affect sound quality; I simply enjoy the combination of TP and external DAC far more than a Touch using the same DAC. iwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Julf wrote: > In what way? > > > > In what way would a $4,000 DAC be audibly better than a $250-500 DAC? I think I gave you a clue why. And I think I also identified specifically where in the TP corners were cut. If you connect the dots, the answer should be obvious. sgmlaw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13995 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
I used to be a "measurements is everything" kind of person. Then I started listening to some of the best measured DAC's on Audio Science Review and I was surprised to not only hear level matched differences with bass/treble, etc, but also soundstage as well. The RME ADI-2 DAC/PRO for example has a slightly wider soundstage than the Transporter, but it's not natural, IMO, as it can shift the vocals too far out of the center range. I notice it more with digitized vinyl (vinyl typically has a wider soundstage...depending on equipment used) than with CD's. I was really excited when I got the ADI-2 and my bias was with it all the way but it sounded bright and fatiguing. In all fairness, the unit has tons of tweaks but I don't think any of them would improve it a great deal. I do not believe that the price of a DAC reflects the sound or quality. A $4000 or even a $40,000 DAC could possibly be the worst sounding DAC out there. I have no doubt in the future that a DAC costing $300 could POSSIBLY sound better than the Transporter, but we're not there yet. (Unless one has slipped past my radar but I doubt it) I'll still check Amir's measurements before buying a DAC but lately I find reading comments and reviews (not so much magazine reviews) is more beneficial. Fizbin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
iwalker wrote: > I have no idea! I expected the Touch and TP to produce identical results > when their digital outputs were connected to the same DAC. > They certainly don't and I can very easily tell the difference. To the same input on the DAC? > Transformer coupled outputs? Lower jitter? I have no idea, but I never > use the Touch. The jitter from a Touch is below audible levels. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
cfuttrup wrote: > Measurements isn't everything, but here's some independent measurements > of the Yggdrasil: > > https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/measurements-and-review-of-schiit-yggdrasil-dac.2358/ > > Best regards, > Claus Thanks Claus. I have seen that review. I have no axe to grind; I am just a very satisfied owner and certainly don't want to get involved in any 'defence' of one product over another. I have merely expressed an opinion about what I have found suits me best. As you say, measurements aren't everything. I have auditioned some very expensive DACs with supposedly superior measurements and to me, they all sounded inferior to both the TP and the Yggdrasil. iwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Julf wrote: > What actual properties of the digital output of the TP do you think > would be better? I have no idea! I expected the Touch and TP to produce identical results when their digital outputs were connected to the same DAC. They certainly don't and I can very easily tell the difference. Transformer coupled outputs? Lower jitter? I have no idea, but I never use the Touch. If they sounded the same I would sell the TP and keep the Touch. iwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
iwalker wrote: > I recently bought a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC ( approx £2200) having > auditioned several other DACs ranging in price from £500 to £3000, > none of which sounded any better than the TP's own DAC. > > The combination of the TP and the Schiit DAC is, to my ears, > outstanding. I certainly prefer it to the TP's internal DAC. The > 'improvement' is subtle but noticeable and I am extremely happy with it. Measurements isn't everything, but here's some independent measurements of the Yggdrasil: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/measurements-and-review-of-schiit-yggdrasil-dac.2358/ Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
iwalker wrote: > This suggests that the digital output stage of the TP has been better > engineered than the Touch, which is hardly a surprise give the price > differential! What actual properties of the digital output of the TP do you think would be better? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Fizbin wrote: > The mid range/bass of the Transporter blows away the Touch. > > > > A TP with a $2000 DAC can be a downgrade as well. The RME ADI-2 PRO, the > Benchmark DAC3 pale by comparison. I have both a Touch and a TP ( as well as a Squeezebox Classic and Boom ...) For many years I used the TP with its own DAC, driving ATC SCM 100 ASL loudspeakers direct. The results were very, very good. I recently bought a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC ( approx £2200) having auditioned several other DACs ranging in price from £500 to £3000, none of which sounded any better than the TP's own DAC. The combination of the TP and the Schiit DAC is, to my ears, outstanding. I certainly prefer it to the TP's internal DAC. The 'improvement' is subtle but noticeable and I am extremely happy with it. The TP was already very good but in my opinion, which of course is subjective, the external DAC has taken the TP to another level. Using the digital output from Touch to the same external DAC produces surprisingly good results, especially considering the cost of the Touch. However, the TP/External DAC combination delivers a very noticeable improvement compared with Touch/DAC. This suggests that the digital output stage of the TP has been better engineered than the Touch, which is hardly a surprise give the price differential! I use the BNC output from TP, but both the RCA and AES outputs also sound superior to the RCA output from Touch. iwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
sgmlaw wrote: > If you are using either as a digital head end, the TP is a bit better in > that role than the Touch. In what way? > For instance, a TP on a $250-500 DAC is likely a downgrade. But the TP > soars to another level with a $4,000 one. In what way would a $4,000 DAC be audibly better than a $250-500 DAC? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
The mid range/bass of the Transporter blows away the Touch. "For instance, a TP on a $250-500 DAC is likely a downgrade. " A TP with a $2000 DAC can be a downgrade as well. The RME ADI-2 PRO, the Benchmark DAC3 pale by comparison. Fizbin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
If you are using either as a digital head end, the TP is a bit better in that role than the Touch. But both are very good. The TP is a superior implementation than the Touch going through to the output stage. So in some respects, the Touch is more responsive to an outboard DAC than a TP is. But I run both models into more upscale DACs, as even the output stage of the TP is nothing all that spectacular in comparative terms. So it may ultimately depend on the caliber of your contemplated outboard DAC as to which SB is a better fit for you. For instance, a TP on a $250-500 DAC is likely a downgrade. But the TP soars to another level with a $4,000 one. And as I just mentioned in another thread, a Touch can be elevated into a budget-priced killer streamer when paired to something like an old CAL Alpha. YMMV. sgmlaw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13995 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
I use an external DAC with a Touch, ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
I might be able to tell you soon as I'm going to dig out my Transporter again (have been using a Touch for some time as it sits nicely on my desk). R. Net-UDAP is free software - you do not have to pay for it. However, if you found it useful, please consider donating: https://paypal.me/RobinBowes robinbowes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
w3wilkes wrote: > So a fun experiment would be to do a double blind - set up by @Archimago > - comparing the Touch to the Transporter. That "extremely cool" look > could make the Transporter sound better. ;) Not saying there's anything > wrong with an "extremely cool" look! valid point and good idea as I certainly believe in unintentional biases! However, it is unlikely the "look" of the Transporter that drives things for me. The Transporter and amp and preamp are all stuck in side a cabinet. I only see any of these things if I open the doors (which I rarely do). I control everything with either my laptop or ipeng or CONTROLLER. The amp tuns on based on receiving audio. So I never have to fiddle with the equipment. This said, it is certainly possible that even thinking that the Transporter looks cool, without even seeing it makes me like it! p.s. At my weekend cottage I have a TOUCH feeding an original Benchmark I DAC. I use the Benchmark because I had it before I ever had a squeezebox and it allows me to use balanced connectors on the analog side. I very much like the way this sounds as well. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
garym wrote: > So I have no shortage of squeezebox hardware units. So my actual > behavior suggests that I really, really like my Transporter. So a fun experiment would be to do a double blind - set up by @Archimago - comparing the Touch to the Transporter. That "extremely cool" look could make the Transporter sound better. ;) Not saying there's anything wrong with an "extremely cool" look! Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets and Squeeseslave Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model B/Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
garym wrote: > No. And there is only one transporter. The later production doesnt have > the transknob, but the insides are identical. I should add to my previous response. I really like my transporter. It's in my main system. And I bought a second "new in box" Transporter a couple of years ago as a backup. And I have about 4 new in box Touch players I bought as backup back when they were cheap and just discontinued. So I have no shortage of squeezebox hardware units. So my actual behavior suggests that I really, really like my Transporter. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Zombie wrote: > Do I get a jaw dropping improvement with a Transporter? Which > Transporter model is regarded as the best? Jaw dropping? Perhaps not, but IMO the Transporter is a big step up from the Touch as far as sound quality is concerned and I'm not a Transporter fanatic. In fact, I've been trying to jump ship to a USB DAC only setup for awhile but I can't find a reasonably priced DAC that sounds better. (That includes the RME ADI-2 DAC which I just tried) Fizbin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Zombie wrote: > Do I get a jaw dropping improvement with a Transporter? Which > Transporter model is regarded as the best? No. And there is only one transporter. The later production doesnt have the transknob, but the insides are identical. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs Touch with EDO
Do I get a jaw dropping improvement with a Transporter? Which Transporter model is regarded as the best? Zombie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles