Re: [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
Le mercredi 10 novembre 2010 05:33:32, Andrea Scarpino a écrit :
 Hi DEVs/TUs,
 currently we have 700 (counting both arches and any) orphans packages in
 [extra].
 As member of the orphans team, I made a list[1] of these packages and I'd
 like to move them to Unsupported.
 If some DEV wants to keep a package simply cross it out (adoption is not
 required, but it would be nice) or reply to this mail.
 If some TU wants to maintain a package in [community], please write the
 name into the Candidate to [community] section, *DO NOT* cross it out.
 Or reply to this mail.
 
 I think that a week is enough time for this job. 17th November I will move
 the remaining packages to Unsupported and the candidates to [community].
 
 Cheers
 
 [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Repo_Cleanup


I no longer use synergy, so I added it to the list.

Stéphane


[aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Xyne
Xyne wrote:

 Ok, 5 days have passed. TUs, please cast your votes:
 
 http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=41
 

The voting period is over. (Sorry for the delayed announcement.)

Yes: 12
No: 5
Abstain: 6
Total: 23

Out of 28 TUs, 28% percent have participated and quorum has been established.
The application is thereby accepted.

Welcome aboard, Kaiting!

You can find the TODO list for new TUs here:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines#TODO_list_for_new_Trusted_Users

*cracks whip*
Now fall in line with the other new slaves. :P




I also want to address something else. I am disappointed that 5 TUs voted no
without anyone voicing any concerns during the discussion period. To abstain
from a vote indicates that you do not have an opinion one way or the other, but
to vote no is to indicate that you have a reason to believe that the application
should be rejected. The discussion period is for discussing exactly such
things. It gives the applicant a chance to address any issues and it enables
others to consider what they might not have considered before.

If you have a concern that no one else has expressed during a discussion period
then it is your duty as a TU and an active participant in the discussion to
bring it up. Please do so in the future.

I also want to say that I do not want anyone to bring up there reasons now. The
time for that is past and there would be nothing to be gained from it, and it
might lead to unnecessary tensions.

Regards,
Xyne


Re: [aur-general] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 10 November 2010 11:54:26 Sergej Pupykin wrote:
 * alltray
 * at
 * centerim
 * dia
 * distcc
 * dmenu
 * elinks
 * iptraf
 * mailman
 * mcrypt
 * motion
 * patchutils
 * perl-*
 * slmodem
 * slmodem-utils
 * squashfs-tools
 * twinkle
 * unarj
 * w3m
 * wmii
 * wput
 * xboard
 * xdialog
 * xpdf
 * xpdf-*
 
 If noone wants to maintain them, I can do it in community.
List updated, but if some DEV is interested he can keep them in [extra].

-- 
Andrea Scarpino
Arch Linux Developer


Re: [aur-general] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Sergej Pupykin
At Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:33:32 +0100,
Andrea Scarpino wrote:
 
 If some TU wants to maintain a package in [community], please write the name 
 into the Candidate to [community] section, *DO NOT* cross it out. Or reply 
 to this mail.

I prefer to use following packages in binary form:

* alltray
* at
* centerim
* dia
* distcc
* dmenu
* elinks
* iptraf
* mailman
* mcrypt
* motion
* patchutils
* perl-*
* slmodem
* slmodem-utils
* squashfs-tools
* twinkle
* unarj
* w3m
* wmii
* wput
* xboard
* xdialog
* xpdf
* xpdf-*

If noone wants to maintain them, I can do it in community.


Re: [aur-general] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:33:32 +0100, Andrea Scarpino
and...@archlinux.org wrote:
 Hi DEVs/TUs,
 currently we have 700 (counting both arches and any) orphans packages in 
 [extra].
 As member of the orphans team, I made a list[1] of these packages and
 I'd like
 to move them to Unsupported.
 If some DEV wants to keep a package simply cross it out (adoption is not 
 required, but it would be nice) or reply to this mail.
 If some TU wants to maintain a package in [community], please write the name 
 into the Candidate to [community] section, *DO NOT* cross it out. Or reply 
 to this mail.
 
 I think that a week is enough time for this job. 17th November I will
 move the
 remaining packages to Unsupported and the candidates to [community].
 
 Cheers
 
 [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Repo_Cleanup

If you somehow need some pkgstats data let me know. I can query the db
manually until I got a better frontend.

-- 
Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre


Re: [aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Allan McRae

On 10/11/10 21:15, Xyne wrote:

Xyne wrote:


Ok, 5 days have passed. TUs, please cast your votes:

http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=41



The voting period is over. (Sorry for the delayed announcement.)

Yes: 12
No: 5
Abstain: 6
Total: 23

Out of 28 TUs, 28% percent have participated and quorum has been established.
The application is thereby accepted.



28% is not a quorum!  :P


Re: [aur-general] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:33:32 +0100
schrieb Andrea Scarpino and...@archlinux.org:

 Hi DEVs/TUs,
 currently we have 700 (counting both arches and any) orphans packages
 in [extra].
 As member of the orphans team, I made a list[1] of these packages and
 I'd like to move them to Unsupported.
 If some DEV wants to keep a package simply cross it out (adoption is
 not required, but it would be nice) or reply to this mail.
 If some TU wants to maintain a package in [community], please write
 the name into the Candidate to [community] section, *DO NOT* cross
 it out. Or reply to this mail.
 
 I think that a week is enough time for this job. 17th November I will
 move the remaining packages to Unsupported and the candidates to
 [community].
 
 Cheers
 
 [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Repo_Cleanup

You should really think about that. There are many of the most
important, oldest and best known packages in this list like dia, ding,
xboard, eboard, epdfview, slmodem etc.

In other words, your list is likely the half of the distro.

If you would put all of them to AUR then you could give up Arch Linux,
because then it has almost no advantage over Gentoo, that is, then will
Arch Linux become a second Gentoo, because the users will have to
compile a lot of (most of the) important packages manually.

And the reason why I switched from Gentoo to Arch Linux about 3 or 4
years ago after using Gentoo for about 6 years was that I was sick of
compiling everything and that Arch Linux was a binary distribution.

So if you would really do this clean up and move all these packages to
AUR then I could and most likely would switch back to Gentoo.

So really, please, reconsider your idea of doing this massive and
pointless cleanup.

Btw., ding was updated recently.

Heiko


Re: [aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:27 +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
 On 10/11/10 21:15, Xyne wrote:
  Xyne wrote:
 
  Ok, 5 days have passed. TUs, please cast your votes:
 
  http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=41
 
 
  The voting period is over. (Sorry for the delayed announcement.)
 
  Yes: 12
  No: 5
  Abstain: 6
  Total: 23
 
  Out of 28 TUs, 28% percent have participated and quorum has been 
  established.
  The application is thereby accepted.
 
 
 28% is not a quorum!  :P

Dammit Allan, I was about the say the same thing!



Re: [aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Xyne
Xyne wrote:

 And for those of you two lazy to calculate 23/28, it's ~82%, not 28% ;)
 those of you two lazy
 two

*sigh*

I'm revoking my mailing list privileges for the rest of the day. I'll see you
tomorrow.


Re: [aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Xyne
Ng Oon-Ee wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:27 +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
  On 10/11/10 21:15, Xyne wrote:
   Xyne wrote:
  
   Ok, 5 days have passed. TUs, please cast your votes:
  
   http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=41
  
  
   The voting period is over. (Sorry for the delayed announcement.)
  
   Yes: 12
   No: 5
   Abstain: 6
   Total: 23
  
   Out of 28 TUs, 28% percent have participated and quorum has been 
   established.
   The application is thereby accepted.
  
  
  28% is not a quorum!  :P
 
 Dammit Allan, I was about the say the same thing!

Gah, apparently I'm dyslexic, or at least my fingers are. From now on, all
participation must be in integer multiples of 11%.

And for those of you two lazy to calculate 23/28, it's ~82%, not 28% ;)


p.s. I hate mailings lists. Every stupid mistake is committed to public
viewing until the end of the internet. I'd propose an edit button for the
internet, but there are already too many people trying to implement one :/


Re: [aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Loui Chang
On Wed 10 Nov 2010 21:27 +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
 On 10/11/10 21:15, Xyne wrote:
 Xyne wrote:
 
 Ok, 5 days have passed. TUs, please cast your votes:
 
 http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=41
 
 
 The voting period is over. (Sorry for the delayed announcement.)
 
 Yes: 12
 No: 5
 Abstain: 6
 Total: 23
 
 Out of 28 TUs, 28% percent have participated and quorum has been
 established.
 The application is thereby accepted.
 
 28% is not a quorum!  :P

I think Xyne meant 82%.



[aur-general] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Andrea Scarpino
Hi DEVs/TUs,
currently we have 700 (counting both arches and any) orphans packages in 
[extra].
As member of the orphans team, I made a list[1] of these packages and I'd like 
to move them to Unsupported.
If some DEV wants to keep a package simply cross it out (adoption is not 
required, but it would be nice) or reply to this mail.
If some TU wants to maintain a package in [community], please write the name 
into the Candidate to [community] section, *DO NOT* cross it out. Or reply 
to this mail.

I think that a week is enough time for this job. 17th November I will move the 
remaining packages to Unsupported and the candidates to [community].

Cheers

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Repo_Cleanup

-- 
Andrea Scarpino
Arch Linux Developer


Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 10 November 2010 12:43:28 Heiko Baums wrote:
 You should really think about that. There are many of the most
 important, oldest and best known packages in this list like dia, ding,
 xboard, eboard, epdfview, slmodem etc.
 
 In other words, your list is likely the half of the distro.
 
 If you would put all of them to AUR then you could give up Arch Linux,
 because then it has almost no advantage over Gentoo, that is, then will
 Arch Linux become a second Gentoo, because the users will have to
 compile a lot of (most of the) important packages manually.
 
 And the reason why I switched from Gentoo to Arch Linux about 3 or 4
 years ago after using Gentoo for about 6 years was that I was sick of
 compiling everything and that Arch Linux was a binary distribution.
 
 So if you would really do this clean up and move all these packages to
 AUR then I could and most likely would switch back to Gentoo.
 
 So really, please, reconsider your idea of doing this massive and
 pointless cleanup.
If you read with attention my mail, you read:

If some DEV wants to keep a package simply cross it out (adoption is not 
required, but it would be nice) or reply to this mail.

This means that if _any_ DEV consider a package important and he thinks that 
should be kept in [extra], he only have to cross it out. Also, if you look at 
that wiki page, ours TUs want to maintain more of them in [community]. So 
there is no reasons to say that we will became a second Gentoo.

Cheers

-- 
Andrea Scarpino
Arch Linux Developer


Re: [aur-general] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:43:28 +0100, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de
wrote:
 Am Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:33:32 +0100
 schrieb Andrea Scarpino and...@archlinux.org:
 
 Hi DEVs/TUs,
 currently we have 700 (counting both arches and any) orphans packages
 in [extra].
 As member of the orphans team, I made a list[1] of these packages and
 I'd like to move them to Unsupported.
 If some DEV wants to keep a package simply cross it out (adoption is
 not required, but it would be nice) or reply to this mail.
 If some TU wants to maintain a package in [community], please write
 the name into the Candidate to [community] section, *DO NOT* cross
 it out. Or reply to this mail.

 I think that a week is enough time for this job. 17th November I will
 move the remaining packages to Unsupported and the candidates to
 [community].

 Cheers

 [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Repo_Cleanup
 
 You should really think about that. There are many of the most
 important, oldest and best known packages in this list like dia, ding,
 xboard, eboard, epdfview, slmodem etc.
 
 In other words, your list is likely the half of the distro.
 
 If you would put all of them to AUR then you could give up Arch Linux,
 because then it has almost no advantage over Gentoo, that is, then will
 Arch Linux become a second Gentoo, because the users will have to
 compile a lot of (most of the) important packages manually.
 
 And the reason why I switched from Gentoo to Arch Linux about 3 or 4
 years ago after using Gentoo for about 6 years was that I was sick of
 compiling everything and that Arch Linux was a binary distribution.
 
 So if you would really do this clean up and move all these packages to
 AUR then I could and most likely would switch back to Gentoo.
 
 So really, please, reconsider your idea of doing this massive and
 pointless cleanup.
 
 Btw., ding was updated recently.
 
 Heiko

Please calm down and first of all: Nobody cares if you are switching to
another distro.

These packages are orphaned which means no dev or TU has an interest in
maintaining them. These cleanups are also meant as some kind of reminder
to adopt needed or popular packages. Keeping unmaintained packages is of
no use; it'll also increase the workload on other e.g. on so name bump
rebuilds.

If people think some of these packages are important, they should
simply step up and become a TU to maintain them. It's just that easy. Or
look at it the other way: why should a dev or tu maintain a package that
he does not use or is interested in? In the end we do this mostly for
ourselves and not for anybody else.

We could compare this list to pkgstats results to be able to look
harder for a new maintainer for popular packages.

-- 
Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre


[aur-general] determining inverse AUR dependencies of binary packages

2010-11-10 Thread Christopher Brannon
Hi all,
I'll start this discussion with an example of the problem.

I notice that python-sqlalchemy is about to change in [community].
Most of the packages which depend on it will need to change their
dependency to python2-sqlalchemy.  This is handled quite nicely for
packages in the binary repositories.  If you do a package search on
www.archlinux.org, you'll see which packages require python-sqlalchemy.
Likewise, it is easy to get a list of [unsupported] packages which
require a given package from [unsupported].  However, I don't know of a
way to get a list of [unsupported] packages which require a given
package from the binary repositories.  If it were possible to build such
lists, we could contact maintainers of [unsupported] packages, in order
to inform them of upcoming changes which require their attention.

-- Chris


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[aur-general] OPIE Packages

2010-11-10 Thread Stefan J. Betz
Hello,

i want to upgrade these Packages:
 * opie-server
 * opie-client
 * libpam-opie

I will also fix these Packages for amd64 Support.

Greetings
Betz Stefan
-- 
URL : http://blog.stefan-betz.net | http://www.stefan-betz.net
GPG : E188 933B BC00 723A 9DB0  0CD3 1398 E68B 6F33 567E
XMPP: ste...@jabber.stefan-betz.net


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Re: [aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Ray Rashif
On 10 November 2010 17:15, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote:
 I also want to address something else. I am disappointed that 5 TUs voted no
 without anyone voicing any concerns during the discussion period. To abstain
 from a vote indicates that you do not have an opinion one way or the other, 
 but
 to vote no is to indicate that you have a reason to believe that the 
 application
 should be rejected. The discussion period is for discussing exactly such
 things. It gives the applicant a chance to address any issues and it enables
 others to consider what they might not have considered before.

 If you have a concern that no one else has expressed during a discussion 
 period
 then it is your duty as a TU and an active participant in the discussion to
 bring it up. Please do so in the future.

 I also want to say that I do not want anyone to bring up there reasons now. 
 The
 time for that is past and there would be nothing to be gained from it, and it
 might lead to unnecessary tensions.

There is no problem with that. The bylaws do not dictate against
silence. This is why:

It was brought to our attention at least on one prior occasion. The
problem only arises when an application fails, and everyone keeps
quiet. That is simply not very nice, though they have the technical
right to do so.

A TU may or may not participate in the discussion depending on whether
she has anything significant to add, and if she decides not and
chooses to vote against the applicant, may do so without voicing an
opinion. If this contributes to a failed application, then the ethical
thing to do is to state her reasons for the negative vote. Hell, we
wouldn't even know if one or more TUs just played around with the
buttons!

Anyway, welcome aboard, Kaiting!


Re: [aur-general] determining inverse AUR dependencies of binary packages

2010-11-10 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:05:42PM +, Christopher Brannon wrote:
 I notice that python-sqlalchemy is about to change in [community].
 Most of the packages which depend on it will need to change their
 dependency to python2-sqlalchemy.  This is handled quite nicely for
 packages in the binary repositories.  If you do a package search on
 www.archlinux.org, you'll see which packages require python-sqlalchemy.
 Likewise, it is easy to get a list of [unsupported] packages which
 require a given package from [unsupported].  However, I don't know of a
 way to get a list of [unsupported] packages which require a given
 package from the binary repositories.  If it were possible to build such
 lists, we could contact maintainers of [unsupported] packages, in order
 to inform them of upcoming changes which require their attention.

As a Trusted User with SSH access to sigurd, you can easily grep all
PKGBUILDs in [unsupported] for python2-sqlalchemy and create a list of
packages that likely require it.


Re: [aur-general] OPIE Packages

2010-11-10 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Stefan J. Betz i...@stefan-betz.net wrote:
 Hello,

 i want to upgrade these Packages:
  * opie-server
  * opie-client
  * libpam-opie

 I will also fix these Packages for amd64 Support.

 Greetings
 Betz Stefan
 --
 URL : http://blog.stefan-betz.net | http://www.stefan-betz.net
 GPG : E188 933B BC00 723A 9DB0  0CD3 1398 E68B 6F33 567E
 XMPP: ste...@jabber.stefan-betz.net

Their current maintainer is active, and the packages you mention are
not marked as out-of-date.

If you wish to have them updated, mark them as outdated and post any
updated PKGBUILDs in a comment.


Re: [aur-general] determining inverse AUR dependencies of binary packages

2010-11-10 Thread Loui Chang
On Wed 10 Nov 2010 14:05 +, Christopher Brannon wrote:
 Hi all,
 I'll start this discussion with an example of the problem.
 
 I notice that python-sqlalchemy is about to change in [community].
 Most of the packages which depend on it will need to change their
 dependency to python2-sqlalchemy.  This is handled quite nicely for
 packages in the binary repositories.  If you do a package search on
 www.archlinux.org, you'll see which packages require python-sqlalchemy.
 Likewise, it is easy to get a list of [unsupported] packages which
 require a given package from [unsupported].  However, I don't know of a
 way to get a list of [unsupported] packages which require a given
 package from the binary repositories.  If it were possible to build such
 lists, we could contact maintainers of [unsupported] packages, in order
 to inform them of upcoming changes which require their attention.

There is somewhat of a system in place to track dependencies in the AUR.
The AUR creates a hidden dummy packages for dependencies that haven't
already been uploaded. Work needs to be done to make that system more
reliable and accessible though.

Here's an example of a dummy package:
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23600



Re: [aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Xyne
Ray Rashif wrote:

 On 10 November 2010 17:15, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote:
  I also want to address something else. I am disappointed that 5 TUs voted no
  without anyone voicing any concerns during the discussion period. To abstain
  from a vote indicates that you do not have an opinion one way or the other, 
  but
  to vote no is to indicate that you have a reason to believe that the 
  application
  should be rejected. The discussion period is for discussing exactly such
  things. It gives the applicant a chance to address any issues and it enables
  others to consider what they might not have considered before.
 
  If you have a concern that no one else has expressed during a discussion 
  period
  then it is your duty as a TU and an active participant in the discussion to
  bring it up. Please do so in the future.
 
  I also want to say that I do not want anyone to bring up there reasons now. 
  The
  time for that is past and there would be nothing to be gained from it, and 
  it
  might lead to unnecessary tensions.
 
 There is no problem with that. The bylaws do not dictate against
 silence. This is why:
 
 It was brought to our attention at least on one prior occasion. The
 problem only arises when an application fails, and everyone keeps
 quiet. That is simply not very nice, though they have the technical
 right to do so.
 
 A TU may or may not participate in the discussion depending on whether
 she has anything significant to add, and if she decides not and
 chooses to vote against the applicant, may do so without voicing an
 opinion. If this contributes to a failed application, then the ethical
 thing to do is to state her reasons for the negative vote. Hell, we
 wouldn't even know if one or more TUs just played around with the
 buttons!

I still see this as an issue. We're not voting on pizza toppings here. We're
granting people access to the [community] repo which is trusted by most Arch
users. The TUs are entrusted with maintaining that repo and its standards.

If one person had voice a concern with an application and then 5 others
silently agreed by voting no, then I see no problem with that. My issue with
this is that not a single person said anything. I would hope that a TU would
have at least a decent reason to vote no instead of abstain, and I would hope
that TUs do more than just pick random buttons when voting.

I think my difficulty is in understanding how someone can feel that something
merits a rejection yet not a discussion, i.e. this is clearly an issue for me
that makes me think this person won't be a TU, but I see no reason to make the
other TUs aware of it... I'll just leave it to luck.

The only thing that I can think of is that the distinction between abstain
and no isn't clear. In a way they make no difference as only yes votes and
the total number of votes decide the outcome, but there is still a big
difference on a personal level between the two, with all the aforementioned
implications.

Meh, this isn't that big of an issue and it's definitely not a by-law issue. As
I wrote before, I'm simply disappointed by this behavior.


[aur-general] Delete orphan package

2010-11-10 Thread Joao Cordeiro
I think this package (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14908) should
be deleted. The maintainer orphaned it since it is deprecated and now
included in other package (see maintainer comment).


Thanks in advance


Re: [aur-general] Delete orphan package

2010-11-10 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Joao Cordeiro jlcorde...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think this package (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14908) should
 be deleted. The maintainer orphaned it since it is deprecated and now
 included in other package (see maintainer comment).

Done, thanks.


Re: [aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Ángel Velásquez
Welcome aboard Kaiting

-- 
Angel Velásquez
angvp @ irc.freenode.net
Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User
Linux Counter: #359909
http://www.angvp.com


Re: [aur-general] Welcome our newest TU, Kaiting Chen!

2010-11-10 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 10 November 2010 12:15, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote:
 Xyne wrote:

 Ok, 5 days have passed. TUs, please cast your votes:

 http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=41


 The voting period is over. (Sorry for the delayed announcement.)

 Yes: 12
 No: 5
 Abstain: 6
 Total: 23

 Out of 28 TUs, 28% percent have participated and quorum has been established.
 The application is thereby accepted.

 Welcome aboard, Kaiting!

 You can find the TODO list for new TUs here:
 http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines#TODO_list_for_new_Trusted_Users

 *cracks whip*
 Now fall in line with the other new slaves. :P




 I also want to address something else. I am disappointed that 5 TUs voted no
 without anyone voicing any concerns during the discussion period. To abstain
 from a vote indicates that you do not have an opinion one way or the other, 
 but
 to vote no is to indicate that you have a reason to believe that the 
 application
 should be rejected. The discussion period is for discussing exactly such
 things. It gives the applicant a chance to address any issues and it enables
 others to consider what they might not have considered before.

 If you have a concern that no one else has expressed during a discussion 
 period
 then it is your duty as a TU and an active participant in the discussion to
 bring it up. Please do so in the future.

 I also want to say that I do not want anyone to bring up there reasons now. 
 The
 time for that is past and there would be nothing to be gained from it, and it
 might lead to unnecessary tensions.

 Regards,
 Xyne


Welcome Kaiting!


Re: [aur-general] Proposal: Mass AUR Cleanup (Discussion Period)

2010-11-10 Thread Loui Chang
On Mon 18 Oct 2010 17:38 +0200, Jakob Gruber wrote:
  On 10/18/2010 04:10 PM, Stefan Husmann wrote:
 Am 10.10.2010 13:46, schrieb Jakob Gruber:
   On 10/04/2010 11:18 AM, Jakob Gruber wrote:
   In response to Louis objections about skipping the discussion period,

 I'm posting the full text of the proposal below. It has been
 altered from the original text to incorporate Xynes idea of adding
 the 'last maintainer activity rule.
 
 Sorry for making you guys vote twice.
 
 This marks the beginning of the discussion period.

 The discussion period has ended, please cast your votes.
 
 as someone already may have noticed, the voting period for Jakob's
 proposal about mass orphaning AUR packages is over. We had 22 votes
 with two abstains and 20 yes-votes.
 
 I am not sure if Jakob's detection of candidates-script can be used to
 automatically orphan the packages. If there is no autmatical way, we should
 find a way so that this has not to be done by one person. Suggestions?
 
 Seems like my earlier mail got lost somehow, so thanks for posting
 the results :)
 
 The plan was to do this directly on the mysql DB (pending Loui's approval),
 so no manual action should be necessary. I'm going to write the sql
 statements sometime later tonight.

Sorry for the horrible delay. I've just executed this proposal and I'll
attack a list of affected users and packages. Hopefully that attachment
sticks. I was going to send mail to the affected users, but I'm not too
sure how to go about mass emailing after all. If anyone can do that, I
can provide the emails. Cheers!

username

3ED
AlecSchueler
Andrew_NZ
ArchPetr
Baraclese
Black_Codec
Caved
Charlos
ChicoGeek
Cimi
Corsair
Creckx
Damnshock
Echtor2oo3
Erroneous
FaziBear
Filip
Gekko
Githzerai
InYourBase
Insane-Boy
J_Zar
Jack
JackDesBwa
Joekey
Kalidor
Lava Croft
Lava186
Michel
Mr Green
Nelani
OMouse
Operator23
PRAEDO
Pappa
Peter Pan
Raniz
RiceKills
Roberth
RustyNail
Schilis
SickHate
Storyteller
Subspace
Thar
TheThirdGhost
VuLTuRe
Warc3r
WeeDie
a.gambini
abarilla
abcde
adam.ciganek
akirayuki
al
alanger
aquila_deus
arkanoxlab
arooaroo
askadar
atlas95
avalan
b7j0c
bb
bbs
bizthepirate
bparsons
brandemk
bricem13
brynjolf
butze420
cdude
cf8
ch3m4
chori
ciccio.a
crebain
crmaxx
cute_dog
daelstorm
darkcoder
devik
devon
dgsiegel
dice
die-andis
dimaka
dir
djpharoah
dkite
dma147
donri
douglaswth
dr.cranium
eldarion
encrypted
eugeni_dodonov
ferama
festux
fivre
fogoh
freakz
gaara974
ganjolinux
gaston.borysiuk
giahra
gianvito
gondil
grumpytoad
gureito
haole
heidi
holst
hugo
ice799
ignis32
inaoya
jackuess
jerk
jesusfranco
jfryman
jimbo
jmcknight
josephmc
jul1
karreman
kontrast
kopsis
kozzi
kpiche
kru
kuvalski
kwiat
langedb
latz
lburton
litchi
lord
lucas
maclag
margent
martin.ufo
mathgl
mcfock
mebaran
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metzen
mingy
mrunion
mrvw0169
muiro
mxcl
nesl247
nggtony
nice_guy_eddy
nicros
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nochternus
noob
notefinder
originof
pbw
pcarrier
pepakriz
pilli
plutonium
post
prakti
prim
priyank
psartini
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quiet
rfer
rickyc85
rijst
riklaunim
rivierrakid
robb_force
robbel
rooloo
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ruinevil
rwanderley
rxvt
saintshakajin
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sasv
sh__
shofs
silencer
simone
simone.lazzaris
siren
skulk
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lang
stonedz
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tebo
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thereidos
thesamet
thor_lin
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tioan
tmaldo
trader
trusktr
tsangpo
turtle
tut
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unixlust
uptimebox
v2punkt0
violagirl23
wamba
waterbear
wisp
wiwo192
wornaki
xpeppino
yiyus
zabijak

pkgname   link

acpi-eee900   http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18389
amazing-git   http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16319
amule-remote-cvs  http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10606
archfosterhttp://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=1935
arpalert  http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13835
aspell-ro http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7369
assh  http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19374
asus_oled http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13815
athena-jothttp://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5681
autarchy  http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7112
banshee-1-svn http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15961
banshee-alarm-plugin-svn  http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10714
banshee-albumart-plugin-svn   http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10713
banshee-cleanup-plugin-svnhttp://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10710
banshee-mirage-plugin http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19007
banshee-mirage-plugin-svn http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=13138
banshee-showtrackonchange-plugin  http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10712
banshee-svn   http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8223
bcfg2  

Re: [aur-general] Delete orphan package

2010-11-10 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:19:34 +
schrieb Joao Cordeiro jlcorde...@gmail.com:

 I think this package (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14908)
 should be deleted. The maintainer orphaned it since it is deprecated
 and now included in other package (see maintainer comment).
 
 
 Thanks in advance

It would be nice, if you would mention the package name, too, in the
future. So that one knows which package is requested to be deleted.

Heiko


Re: [aur-general] OPIE Packages

2010-11-10 Thread Stefan J. Betz
Am 2010-11-10 16:21:39 +0200, Evangelos Foutras schrieb:
 Their current maintainer is active, and the packages you mention are
 not marked as out-of-date.

I have sent a mail to the current maintainer, should he not respond in the
next 2 weeks i will report this issue again.

Greetings
Betz Stefan
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[aur-general] [deletion request] gimp-mathmap-13

2010-11-10 Thread Uli Armbruster
Hi

I just discovered this package http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43383 
We have this plugin in the repos and the newer version is about to come in, so 
nobody needs this package in the AUR. It even doesn't work, because doxygen is 
needed in makedepends (this is also missing in the official PKGBUILD, I'll tell 
Geoffroy ;) )

Merci


Re: [aur-general] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Stefan Husmann
Am 10.11.2010 11:33, schrieb Andrea Scarpino:
 Hi DEVs/TUs,
 currently we have 700 (counting both arches and any) orphans packages in 
 [extra].
 As member of the orphans team, I made a list[1] of these packages and I'd 
 like 
 to move them to Unsupported.
 If some DEV wants to keep a package simply cross it out (adoption is not 
 required, but it would be nice) or reply to this mail.
 If some TU wants to maintain a package in [community], please write the name 
 into the Candidate to [community] section, *DO NOT* cross it out. Or reply 
 to this mail.
 
 I think that a week is enough time for this job. 17th November I will move 
 the 
 remaining packages to Unsupported and the candidates to [community].
 
 Cheers
 
 [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Repo_Cleanup
 
Hello,

why are sawfish and rep-gtk on the list, but not librep? I think these packages
belong together and should be maintained by the same person. I would like to 
maintain them in [community].

Regards Stefan


Re: [aur-general] [extra] repository cleanup

2010-11-10 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 10 November 2010 22:27:43 Stefan Husmann wrote:
 why are sawfish and rep-gtk on the list, but not librep? I think these
 packages belong together and should be maintained by the same person. I
 would like to maintain them in [community].
Because librep is maintained by Jurgen, but I think that he forgot to orphan 
it. Added librep to packages to remove from [extra] and librep, rep-gtk, 
sawfish to candidates to [community]. Thanks

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Andrea Scarpino
Arch Linux Developer