[aur-general] [Deletion request] fcitx4 and fcitx4vim

[Jekyll Wu]

fcitx4[1] is outdated and orphaned, and fcitx-4.1.0 is already in [extra] .

fcitx4vim[2] is orphaned and based upon  fcitx-3, and AFAIK the patch 
has already been merged into upstream.


[1] - http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43279
[2] - http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31246

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Alexander Rødseth]

Hi Philipp,

Thanks for reviewing the PKGBUILD for cheesetracker.

I'll fix the 'jack-audio-connection-kit'/'jack' dependency issue.

I agree that the cheesetracker PKGBUILD is slightly unusual, but I
personally think the "addinclude" solution is elegant, as no patch is
needed and it's just one easy-to-read line per missing include.
While I completely agree that the dependency on addinclude is not
strictly needed, it's only a make dependency, and therefore is not
relevant for users if it ever should become a "proper" package.

As CheeseTracker does not seem to be maintained anymore, I can offer
to orphan the AUR package (or request that it is deleted).

-- 
Best regards,
   Alexander Rødseth
   (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Philipp Überbacher]

Excerpts from Alexander Rødseth's message of 2011-09-03 18:13:39 +0200:
> Hello,
> 
> My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old
> for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years.
> 
> My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a
> decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now
> I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute
> favorite so far.
> 
> My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the
> votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously
> orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home.
> 
> I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I
> think is evident from the installation process, the package manager
> and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers
> alike.
> 
> I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to
> open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here
> is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I
> wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a
> wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI
> programs as I see fit. [5]
> 
> I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly
> explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to
> 3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the
> internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with
> the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum
> of C++. ;)
> 
> I started working with programming before studying computer science,
> and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own.
> 
> At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community]
> (lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail
> as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra]
> [7].
> 
> I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can.
> 
> My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with
> maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use.
> 
> If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other
> arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for
> pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be
> something?)
> 
> I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than
> that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a
> minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game
> of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course.
> 
> Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a TU.
> 
> --
> Humble regards,
>  Alexander Rødseth
>  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)
> 
> 
> [1] 
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=trontonic&PP=128&SO=d&O=0&SB=v
> [2] http://www.3dmodellering.no/beckmann/
> [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414   (ctrl-f, "patch")
> [4] http://burn.sf.net
> [5] http://roboticoverlords.org
> [6] http://hue.no
> [7] 
> http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/crypto%2B%2B/trunk/

Being an audio person I've had a look at the first audio app in the list
(cheesetracker) and I'm not entirely happy with the PKGBUILD. There's
the minor thing that 'jack-audio-connection-kit' is just 'jack' since a
couple of months. While I'm happy that you seemingly managed to get
cheesetracker to build and while the 'addinclude' method is probably
easy for packagers it's a very weird way to do things. Firstly it's
an additional dependency from AUR, secondly it depends on another
language that isn't wide spread yet (GO) while the same effect could be
had without anything special (patch). To me this looks very much like an
unnecessary 'because I can'-thing that makes installing the package more
complicated than it needs to be.

Just 2c

Re: [aur-general] VCS Packages

[Thomas Dziedzic]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 1:48 PM, gadget3000  wrote:

> *Dead repo due to dead project. I can't find any mirrors:*
> kidentd-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37137)
> wolman-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18867)
> fripp-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26436)
> qedje-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23036)
>
> All map2x-* packages (
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&K=map2x&do_Search=Go). Map2x no
> longer exists and was replaced by kompas (Source:
>
> http://mosra.cz/blog/article.php?a=14-map2x-is-dead-long-live-kompas-multiplatform-navigation-software
> ).
> All replacement packages exist (
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&K=kompas&do_Search=Go)
>
> pywc-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30978)
> synaptics-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15983)
>
> phasex-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26644). It has been
> replaced by phasex-dev-git
> (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40411). phasex
> (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11173) has also been replaced
> by
> phasex-dev (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42439)
>
> *Repo has moved:*
> pyjavascriptcore-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36133) has
> been replaced by pyjavascriptcore-bzr (
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34295)
>
> pidgin-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26671). This didn't
> use an official repo, instead it used a clone. I'm not sure if this is ok
> practice. Officially pidgin uses monotone (
> http://developer.pidgin.nim/wiki/UsingPidginMonotone<
> http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/UsingPidginMonotone>)
> and pidgin-mtn exists (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31491).
> If
> all checks out fine then let me know and I'll just update _gitroot (
> http://gitorious.org/pidgin-clone) and re-orphan it.
>
>
> *Unmaintained repos:*
> raktpdf-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36386). Hasn't been
> updated since 2008 (http://git.code-monkey.de/?p=raktpdf.git;a=summary).
> The
> repo also refuses a connection to clone for me.
>
> omvviewer-git(https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24455). All
> omvviewer no longer exists and was replaced by snowglobe (Source:
> http://omvviewer.byteme.org.uk/index.php/2010/05/27/package-updates/).
> snowglobe-git exists (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38485).
>
> libetc-experimental-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37676).
> Repo is dead as well. libetc still exists (
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15943). rewritefs (mentioned in
> the comments) is only an unofficial replacement.
>
>
> *Other requests:*
> kumodule-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41413). Delete at
> maintainers request in comments. It depends on kernel26 and the repo no
> longer exists.
>
>
all done up to here


> Not too sure on this one. I think it's just badly named. gegl-git-master (
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46910). gegl-git exists (
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26782). It also uses a shortened
> URL which leads to a small dropbox file called babl-git-master.tar.bz2
> which
> I haven't opened.
>
> gimp-git-master (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46909) same as
> above. Also has a shortened URL that leads to a file from the same dropbox
> account and has the same maintainer.
>
>
I have left a comment on gegl-git-master asking what the difference is


>
> *(Just for reference). Repo has moved. Needs a replacement package before
> merging/deletion:*
> All mcabber-module-*-git packages have moved to mercurial. Some may also be
> built into mcabber-hg now as well.
> pastebin-cli-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46621) now
> uses
> svn.
> thunar-actions-plugin-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30184
> )
> now uses svn.
> python-commons-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47324) now
> uses svn.
> thrift-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17977) now uses svn.
> phinix-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48443). Dead repo. I
> can't find a mirror but the repo died only between April and September so
> another may pop up soon.
>
>
>
will delete when replaced, thanks!

P.S. Please don't top post. It is fine with me, but other users' clients
screw up with top posting. Thanks again!


>
> Gadget3000
>
>
> On 2 September 2011 22:07, gadget3000  wrote:
>
> > *Dead repo due to dead project. I can't find any mirrors:*
> > kidentd-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37137)
> > wolman-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18867)
> >
> > *Repo has moved:*
> > pyjavascriptcore-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36133)
> has
> > been replaced by pyjavascriptcore-bzr (
> > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34295)
> > pidgin-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26671). This
> didn't
> > use an official repo, instead it used a clone. Officially pidgin uses
> > mo

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Alexander Rødseth]

Hi,

2011/9/3 Stefan Husmann :
> I had a short look at some of your PKGBUILDs and they are in a good shape.
> The only
> small issue I have with them is that you often use the echo command to
> create small
> wrapper scripts or config files. I think we normally prefer to deliver such
> scripts
> as seperate files, but I do not remember a discussion about this.

I would be happy to change the PKGBUILD-files to include the tiny
scripts instead of using echo to produce them, if that is the
preferred way of doing it.


> Do you plan to move shedskin to [community]?

Yes.


---
Cordially,
   Alexander Rødseth
   (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Alexander Rødseth]

Hi,

2011/9/3 Ronald van Haren :
> In the meantime, what kind of packages are you interested in maintaining in
> [community]? Do you plan do adopt any orphans? Do you plan to move any new
> packages into [community]?

>From [community] I would be interested in adopting the following orphans:
  netsurf
  hubbub
  fuseiso
  mtpaint

I've used all of these before, and I maintain netsurf-svn and hubbub-svn in AUR.
mtpaint is a great little app if you have forgot the ImageMagick
commandline parameters and don't want to wait for gimp to start up.
Puppy Linux includes mtpaint by default.

I don't have any specific plans for moving any packages, but I would
strongly consider unetbootin [1] and shedskin [2]. I also wouldn't
mind having robotindskitten [3] in [community].

unetbootin is a great tool for putting iso files on usb sticks/drives
in a way that makes them bootable. (Arch is lucky to have such a
clever iso, that works on CD and USB, for i686 and x86_64).

shedskin is my most popular AUR package, for converting Python into C++.

-- 
Best regards,
   Alexander Rødseth
   (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)


[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21989
[2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24600
[3] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23580

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Stefan Husmann]

Am 03.09.2011 18:13, schrieb Alexander Rødseth:

Hello,

My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old
for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years.

My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a
decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now
I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute
favorite so far.

My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the
votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously
orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home.

I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I
think is evident from the installation process, the package manager
and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers
alike.

I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to
open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here
is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I
wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a
wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI
programs as I see fit. [5]

I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly
explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to
3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the
internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with
the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum
of C++. ;)

I started working with programming before studying computer science,
and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own.

At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community]
(lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail
as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra]
[7].

I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can.

My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with
maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use.

If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other
arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for
pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be
something?)

I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than
that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a
minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game
of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course.

Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a TU.

--
Humble regards,
  Alexander Rødseth
  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)


[1] 
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=trontonic&PP=128&SO=d&O=0&SB=v
[2] http://www.3dmodellering.no/beckmann/
[3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414   (ctrl-f, "patch")
[4] http://burn.sf.net
[5] http://roboticoverlords.org
[6] http://hue.no
[7] http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/crypto%2B%2B/trunk/



Hello,

good introduction of yourself indeed.

I had a short look at some of your PKGBUILDs and they are in a good shape. The 
only
small issue I have with them is that you often use the echo command to create 
small
wrapper scripts or config files. I think we normally prefer to deliver such 
scripts
as seperate files, but I do not remember a discussion about this.

Do you plan to move shedskin to [community]?

Best Regards
Stefan

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[Heiko Baums]

Am Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:25:41 +0100
schrieb Gordon JC Pearce :

> The AUR search function doesn't necessarily work very well, and
> aurbuild/yaourt/clyde et al don't show you the comments on a package.

For me the AUR search function has worked perfectly for me so far, and
yaourt shows you the latest comments if you run yaourt -S
.

Heiko

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[Gordon JC Pearce]

On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:20:57 +0200
Heiko Baums  wrote:

> Am Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:49:21 +0100
> schrieb Gordon JC Pearce :
> 
> > So, the only way to use AUR from (say) Google is to search for a
> > package, ...
> 
> Why do you need Google to search the AUR? I do it either with the AUR
> search function or with a wrapper like yaourt or aurbuild.

The AUR search function doesn't necessarily work very well, and 
aurbuild/yaourt/clyde et al don't show you the comments on a package.

-- 
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ 

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Alexander Rødseth]

Hi,

I'm relieved that the reception of my TU application has been
welcoming and positive so far. Thank you.

Specializing in packages that has to do with Go or creating music
should be a good fit.

When it comes to Ceph and MooseFS, I'm actually using MooseFS instead
of Ceph right now, as Ceph had a data loss bug early on (that I
reported and now seems to have been fixed).
MooseFS may not be as visionary as Ceph, but it seems to work great
and it runs happily on a little filecluster at my workplace.

-- 
Cordially,
   Alexander Rødseth
   (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)

Re: [aur-general] VCS Packages

[gadget3000]

*Dead repo due to dead project. I can't find any mirrors:*
kidentd-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37137)
wolman-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18867)
fripp-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26436)
qedje-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23036)

All map2x-* packages (
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&K=map2x&do_Search=Go). Map2x no
longer exists and was replaced by kompas (Source:
http://mosra.cz/blog/article.php?a=14-map2x-is-dead-long-live-kompas-multiplatform-navigation-software).
All replacement packages exist (
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&K=kompas&do_Search=Go)

pywc-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30978)
synaptics-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15983)

phasex-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26644). It has been
replaced by phasex-dev-git
(https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40411). phasex
(https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11173) has also been replaced by
phasex-dev (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42439)

*Repo has moved:*
pyjavascriptcore-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36133) has
been replaced by pyjavascriptcore-bzr (
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34295)

pidgin-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26671). This didn't
use an official repo, instead it used a clone. I'm not sure if this is ok
practice. Officially pidgin uses monotone (
http://developer.pidgin.nim/wiki/UsingPidginMonotone)
and pidgin-mtn exists (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31491). If
all checks out fine then let me know and I'll just update _gitroot (
http://gitorious.org/pidgin-clone) and re-orphan it.


*Unmaintained repos:*
raktpdf-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36386). Hasn't been
updated since 2008 (http://git.code-monkey.de/?p=raktpdf.git;a=summary). The
repo also refuses a connection to clone for me.

omvviewer-git(https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24455). All
omvviewer no longer exists and was replaced by snowglobe (Source:
http://omvviewer.byteme.org.uk/index.php/2010/05/27/package-updates/).
snowglobe-git exists (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38485).

libetc-experimental-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37676).
Repo is dead as well. libetc still exists (
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15943). rewritefs (mentioned in
the comments) is only an unofficial replacement.


*Other requests:*
kumodule-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41413). Delete at
maintainers request in comments. It depends on kernel26 and the repo no
longer exists.

Not too sure on this one. I think it's just badly named. gegl-git-master (
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46910). gegl-git exists (
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26782). It also uses a shortened
URL which leads to a small dropbox file called babl-git-master.tar.bz2 which
I haven't opened.

gimp-git-master (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46909) same as
above. Also has a shortened URL that leads to a file from the same dropbox
account and has the same maintainer.


*(Just for reference). Repo has moved. Needs a replacement package before
merging/deletion:*
All mcabber-module-*-git packages have moved to mercurial. Some may also be
built into mcabber-hg now as well.
pastebin-cli-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46621) now uses
svn.
thunar-actions-plugin-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30184)
now uses svn.
python-commons-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47324) now
uses svn.
thrift-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17977) now uses svn.
phinix-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48443). Dead repo. I
can't find a mirror but the repo died only between April and September so
another may pop up soon.



Gadget3000


On 2 September 2011 22:07, gadget3000  wrote:

> *Dead repo due to dead project. I can't find any mirrors:*
> kidentd-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37137)
> wolman-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18867)
>
> *Repo has moved:*
> pyjavascriptcore-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36133) has
> been replaced by pyjavascriptcore-bzr (
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34295)
> pidgin-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26671). This didn't
> use an official repo, instead it used a clone. Officially pidgin uses
> monotone (http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/UsingPidginMonotone). I'm not
> sure
> if this is ok practice. If it is then let me know and I'll just update
> _gitroot (http://gitorious.org/pidgin-clone).
>
> *Unmaintained repos:*
>
>
> *Other requests:*
> kumodule-git (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41413). Delete at
> maintainers request in comments. It depends on kernel26 and the repo no
> longer exists.
>
>
> *(Just for reference). Repo has moved. Needs a replacement package
> before merging/deleti

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Thomas S Hatch]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:

> On 09/03/2011 06:13 PM, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old
>> for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years.
>>
>> My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a
>> decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now
>> I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute
>> favorite so far.
>>
>> My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the
>> votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously
>> orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home.
>>
>> I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I
>> think is evident from the installation process, the package manager
>> and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers
>> alike.
>>
>> I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to
>> open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here
>> is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I
>> wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a
>> wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI
>> programs as I see fit. [5]
>>
>> I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly
>> explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to
>> 3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the
>> internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with
>> the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum
>> of C++. ;)
>>
>> I started working with programming before studying computer science,
>> and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own.
>>
>> At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community]
>> (lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail
>> as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra]
>> [7].
>>
>> I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can.
>>
>> My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with
>> maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use.
>>
>> If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other
>> arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for
>> pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be
>> something?)
>>
>> I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than
>> that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a
>> minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game
>> of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course.
>>
>> Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a
>> TU.
>>
>> --
>> Humble regards,
>>  Alexander Rødseth
>>  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)
>>
>>
>> [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages.php?SeB=m&K=**
>> trontonic&PP=128&SO=d&O=0&SB=v
>> [2] 
>> http://www.3dmodellering.no/**beckmann/
>> [3] 
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/**show_bug.cgi?id=78414
>>   (ctrl-f, "patch")
>> [4] http://burn.sf.net
>> [5] http://roboticoverlords.org
>> [6] http://hue.no
>> [7] http://projects.archlinux.org/**svntogit/packages.git/tree/**
>> crypto%2B%2B/trunk/
>>
> Good sir,
>
> thou seem to have quite an abundance of [community] candidates in thine
> firm and warm grip. It fills me with beautiful pleasure to know that such a
> fine and benevolent gentleman as thyself would find the time and desire to
> write to this most welcoming of mailing lists to offer thine own will and
> workforce to this organization of enlightened souls.
>
> It would appear that thou should be capable and able to help us out. I have
> to inquire, though, whether there is anything thou would want to specialize
> in? As thou seem to indulge in music creation and Go, perhaps those could be
> thine utmost priority.
>
> +1
>

Your Ceph package competes with my moosefs package :)

I have been wondering when trontonic would show up here!

I will look over your packages, but so far I think your application looks
great!

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[Heiko Baums]

Am Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:49:21 +0100
schrieb Gordon JC Pearce :

> So, the only way to use AUR from (say) Google is to search for a
> package, ...

Why do you need Google to search the AUR? I do it either with the AUR
search function or with a wrapper like yaourt or aurbuild.

Heiko

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Sven-Hendrik Haase]

On 09/03/2011 06:13 PM, Alexander Rødseth wrote:

Hello,

My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old
for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years.

My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a
decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now
I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute
favorite so far.

My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the
votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously
orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home.

I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I
think is evident from the installation process, the package manager
and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers
alike.

I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to
open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here
is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I
wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a
wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI
programs as I see fit. [5]

I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly
explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to
3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the
internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with
the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum
of C++. ;)

I started working with programming before studying computer science,
and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own.

At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community]
(lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail
as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra]
[7].

I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can.

My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with
maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use.

If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other
arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for
pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be
something?)

I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than
that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a
minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game
of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course.

Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a TU.

--
Humble regards,
  Alexander Rødseth
  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)


[1] 
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=trontonic&PP=128&SO=d&O=0&SB=v
[2] http://www.3dmodellering.no/beckmann/
[3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414   (ctrl-f, "patch")
[4] http://burn.sf.net
[5] http://roboticoverlords.org
[6] http://hue.no
[7] http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/crypto%2B%2B/trunk/

Good sir,

thou seem to have quite an abundance of [community] candidates in thine 
firm and warm grip. It fills me with beautiful pleasure to know that 
such a fine and benevolent gentleman as thyself would find the time and 
desire to write to this most welcoming of mailing lists to offer thine 
own will and workforce to this organization of enlightened souls.


It would appear that thou should be capable and able to help us out. I 
have to inquire, though, whether there is anything thou would want to 
specialize in? As thou seem to indulge in music creation and Go, perhaps 
those could be thine utmost priority.


+1

Re: [aur-general] TU Resignation

[Ronald van Haren]

Op 31 aug. 2011 03:11 schreef "Loui Chang"  het
volgende:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I haven't been very involved with the AUR for a long while, and I don't
> really see that changing much. Since I only have a few packages I think
> it's time for me to resign as a TU. I may still throw a few patches
> around if I find the time. I've asked Lukas Fleischer to assume my duty
> of adding new TUs.
>
> It was a pleasure to work with you folks. See you around!
>
> My former packages which I've recently disowned:
> esmtp
> libesmtp (dependency of balsa, collectd, and esmtp)
> mhwaveedit
> oldstand-font
> tig
>
> Cheers.
>

Did I mis the farewell party?

Thanks for your awesome work! Hope to see you around in the future.

Cheers,
Ronald

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Ronald van Haren]

Op 3 sep. 2011 18:14 schreef "Alexander Rødseth"  het
volgende:
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old
> for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years.
>
> My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a
> decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now
> I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute
> favorite so far.
>
> My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the
> votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously
> orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home.
>
> I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I
> think is evident from the installation process, the package manager
> and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers
> alike.
>
> I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to
> open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here
> is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I
> wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a
> wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI
> programs as I see fit. [5]
>
> I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly
> explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to
> 3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the
> internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with
> the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum
> of C++. ;)
>
> I started working with programming before studying computer science,
> and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own.
>
> At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community]
> (lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail
> as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra]
> [7].
>
> I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can.
>
> My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with
> maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use.
>
> If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other
> arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for
> pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be
> something?)
>
> I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than
> that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a
> minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game
> of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course.
>
> Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a
TU.
>
> --
> Humble regards,
>  Alexander Rødseth
>  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)
>
>
> [1]
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=trontonic&PP=128&SO=d&O=0&SB=v
> [2] http://www.3dmodellering.no/beckmann/
> [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414   (ctrl-f, "patch")
> [4] http://burn.sf.net
> [5] http://roboticoverlords.org
> [6] http://hue.no
> [7]
http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/crypto%2B%2B/trunk/

Thanks for your interest in becoming a TU. Your application is well written
so I have good hopes for your packages. I'll check them when I have some
more time...and a computer, at hand.

In the meantime, what kind of packages are you interested in maintaining in
[community]? Do you plan do adopt any orphans? Do you plan to move any new
packages into [community]?

Cheers,
Ronald

Re: [aur-general] Orphan Request

[Thomas Dziedzic]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Alex Ferrando  wrote:

> If it there is a chance that thunderbird-firetray-svn [1] could be orphaned
> from its current maintainer, please do.
>
> I ask this because this package is unmaintained since January and the
> current maintainer doesn't answer to e-mail.
>
> With the current version of Thunderbird this package needs to get its
> PKGBUILD updated every time a new version of thunderbird gets out in order
> to work.
>
> Currently I'm posting comments with modified PKGBUILDS in the AUR package
> page so people can get it to work. If it gets orphaned I will gladly adopt
> it.
>
> [1]: 
> https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages.php?ID=45910
>
> Regards.
>
> Alex Ferrando
>
>
orphaned, thanks

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Thomas Dziedzic]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Evangelos Foutras
wrote:

> On 03/09/11 19:13, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old
> > for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years.
> >
> > My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a
> > decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now
> > I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute
> > favorite so far.
> >
> > My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the
> > votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously
> > orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home.
> >
> > I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I
> > think is evident from the installation process, the package manager
> > and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers
> > alike.
> >
> > I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to
> > open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here
> > is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I
> > wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a
> > wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI
> > programs as I see fit. [5]
> >
> > I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly
> > explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to
> > 3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the
> > internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with
> > the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum
> > of C++. ;)
> >
> > I started working with programming before studying computer science,
> > and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own.
> >
> > At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community]
> > (lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail
> > as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra]
> > [7].
> >
> > I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can.
> >
> > My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with
> > maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use.
> >
> > If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other
> > arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for
> > pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be
> > something?)
> >
> > I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than
> > that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a
> > minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game
> > of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course.
> >
> > Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a
> TU.
>
> Indeed, and I'm happy to sponsor this fine candidate.
>
> Let the discussion period begin. :)
>

Awesome application, awesome involvement, awesome everything!

I can't really find anything I would like to discuss that hasn't been
answered in the application already.

P.S. I just noticed the last TU application was almost 6 months ago

[aur-general] Orphan Request

[Alex Ferrando]

If it there is a chance that thunderbird-firetray-svn [1] could be orphaned 
from its current maintainer, please do.

I ask this because this package is unmaintained since January and the current 
maintainer doesn't answer to e-mail.

With the current version of Thunderbird this package needs to get its PKGBUILD 
updated every time a new version of thunderbird gets out in order to work.

Currently I'm posting comments with modified PKGBUILDS in the AUR package page 
so people can get it to work. If it gets orphaned I will gladly adopt it.

[1]: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45910

Regards.

Alex Ferrando

Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Estêvão Valadão]

Alexander has a nice summary/historic and will be great if he is approved :)

2011/9/3 Evangelos Foutras 

> On 03/09/11 19:13, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old
> > for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years.
> >
> > My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a
> > decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now
> > I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute
> > favorite so far.
> >
> > My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the
> > votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously
> > orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home.
> >
> > I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I
> > think is evident from the installation process, the package manager
> > and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers
> > alike.
> >
> > I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to
> > open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here
> > is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I
> > wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a
> > wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI
> > programs as I see fit. [5]
> >
> > I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly
> > explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to
> > 3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the
> > internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with
> > the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum
> > of C++. ;)
> >
> > I started working with programming before studying computer science,
> > and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own.
> >
> > At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community]
> > (lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail
> > as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra]
> > [7].
> >
> > I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can.
> >
> > My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with
> > maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use.
> >
> > If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other
> > arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for
> > pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be
> > something?)
> >
> > I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than
> > that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a
> > minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game
> > of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course.
> >
> > Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a
> TU.
>
> Indeed, and I'm happy to sponsor this fine candidate.
>
> Let the discussion period begin. :)
>



-- 
Estêvão Valadão

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[Matej Ľach]

On 03/09/11 16:49, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:49:30 +0100
Matej Ľach  wrote:


On 03/09/11 14:55, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:18:58 -0300
rafael ff1   wrote:


's' stands for Secure. Maybe security is a good reason.


Oh, okay, so you put an "S" in and it waves the magic "secure" stick.  Very 
good.

What happens if you're using a password you don't care about for AUR?


If you are using such password then you are putting AUR at risk because
if your password can be easily cracked there is a possibility that an

I didn't say it could be "easily cracked".  I said it's a password that I don't 
particularly care if I run up against the tiny, vanishingly small chance that anyone is 
bored enough to somehow tap into my LAN and sniff it.



attacker would be able to compromise the whole AUR service using your
Is there any particular problem why you can't/don't want to use HTTPS?
If yes, we may be able to help you...

One is that https is painfully slow over slow or unreliable connections (GPRS 
springs to mind; 3G service is patchy here).
The other is that switching to https has left AUR in a fundamentally broken state.  If 
you search for a package on AUR with any of the significant search engines, they return 
an http link.  You can't do anything with this, though, because *even if you're logged 
in* you get the "ZOMG OH NOES YOU AREN'T USING HTTPS AND HTTPS IS TEH 
AWSUM11!!11!" message.
Now, if clicking on that took you *to the same page but with https* that would 
be fine, but it doesn't.  It unceremoniously dumps you on the index page for 
AUR, with no way to get back to the package that you googled.

So, the only way to use AUR from (say) Google is to search for a package, click 
on it, copy the address from the bar, click on the https login link, log in 
(since even if you're logged in, visiting the http page seems to log you out), 
then paste the address you got from the search engine into the address bar, 
edit it to go to https, then hit return.  This is hardly a seamless user 
experience, but it ought to be trivial to fix.

Sort it the fuck out.

If you want me to put my money where my mouth is and contribute some code, then 
just ask.



""I didn't say it could be "easily cracked".""

I didn't say that you said such thing. It's just my assuming that if you don't 
care as much about it, it may be more vulnerable...


I am sure devs are working hard to make AUR more secure, but also more useable 
than before, just give them more time.
You can also use some sort of plugin for your browser that will transfer you 
form Google to HTTPS AUR automatically.

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application

[Evangelos Foutras]

On 03/09/11 19:13, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old
> for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years.
> 
> My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a
> decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now
> I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute
> favorite so far.
> 
> My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the
> votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously
> orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home.
> 
> I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I
> think is evident from the installation process, the package manager
> and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers
> alike.
> 
> I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to
> open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here
> is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I
> wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a
> wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI
> programs as I see fit. [5]
> 
> I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly
> explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to
> 3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the
> internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with
> the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum
> of C++. ;)
> 
> I started working with programming before studying computer science,
> and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own.
> 
> At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community]
> (lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail
> as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra]
> [7].
> 
> I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can.
> 
> My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with
> maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use.
> 
> If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other
> arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for
> pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be
> something?)
> 
> I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than
> that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a
> minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game
> of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course.
> 
> Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a TU.

Indeed, and I'm happy to sponsor this fine candidate.

Let the discussion period begin. :)

[aur-general] TU Application

[Alexander Rødseth]

Hello,

My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old
for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years.

My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a
decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now
I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute
favorite so far.

My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the
votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously
orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home.

I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I
think is evident from the installation process, the package manager
and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers
alike.

I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to
open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here
is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I
wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a
wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI
programs as I see fit. [5]

I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly
explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to
3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the
internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with
the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum
of C++. ;)

I started working with programming before studying computer science,
and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own.

At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community]
(lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail
as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra]
[7].

I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can.

My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with
maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use.

If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other
arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for
pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be
something?)

I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than
that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a
minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game
of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course.

Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a TU.

--
Humble regards,
 Alexander Rødseth
 (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)


[1] 
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=trontonic&PP=128&SO=d&O=0&SB=v
[2] http://www.3dmodellering.no/beckmann/
[3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414   (ctrl-f, "patch")
[4] http://burn.sf.net
[5] http://roboticoverlords.org
[6] http://hue.no
[7] http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/crypto%2B%2B/trunk/

Re: [aur-general] Merge/Removal request

[Evangelos Foutras]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Massimiliano Torromeo
 wrote:
> Hi,
> I switched my project repository from svn to git a while ago and I just
> uploaded a new PKGBUILD to the AUR.
>
> I would like to remove sqlantaresia-svn [1] and keep sqlantaresia-git [2]
> maybe merging the votes if possible.

Done, thanks.

[aur-general] Merge/Removal request

[Massimiliano Torromeo]

Hi,
I switched my project repository from svn to git a while ago and I just
uploaded a new PKGBUILD to the AUR.

I would like to remove sqlantaresia-svn [1] and keep sqlantaresia-git [2]
maybe merging the votes if possible.
Thanks!

[1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25368
[2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=52124

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[Gordon JC Pearce]

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:49:30 +0100
Matej Ľach  wrote:

> On 03/09/11 14:55, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:18:58 -0300
> > rafael ff1  wrote:
> >
> >> 's' stands for Secure. Maybe security is a good reason.
> >>
> > Oh, okay, so you put an "S" in and it waves the magic "secure" stick.  Very 
> > good.
> >
> > What happens if you're using a password you don't care about for AUR?
> >
> If you are using such password then you are putting AUR at risk because 
> if your password can be easily cracked there is a possibility that an 

I didn't say it could be "easily cracked".  I said it's a password that I don't 
particularly care if I run up against the tiny, vanishingly small chance that 
anyone is bored enough to somehow tap into my LAN and sniff it.


> attacker would be able to compromise the whole AUR service using your 

> Is there any particular problem why you can't/don't want to use HTTPS?
> If yes, we may be able to help you...

One is that https is painfully slow over slow or unreliable connections (GPRS 
springs to mind; 3G service is patchy here).
The other is that switching to https has left AUR in a fundamentally broken 
state.  If you search for a package on AUR with any of the significant search 
engines, they return an http link.  You can't do anything with this, though, 
because *even if you're logged in* you get the "ZOMG OH NOES YOU AREN'T USING 
HTTPS AND HTTPS IS TEH AWSUM11!!11!" message.
Now, if clicking on that took you *to the same page but with https* that would 
be fine, but it doesn't.  It unceremoniously dumps you on the index page for 
AUR, with no way to get back to the package that you googled.

So, the only way to use AUR from (say) Google is to search for a package, click 
on it, copy the address from the bar, click on the https login link, log in 
(since even if you're logged in, visiting the http page seems to log you out), 
then paste the address you got from the search engine into the address bar, 
edit it to go to https, then hit return.  This is hardly a seamless user 
experience, but it ought to be trivial to fix.

Sort it the fuck out.

If you want me to put my money where my mouth is and contribute some code, then 
just ask.

-- 
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ 

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[Matej Ľach]

On 03/09/11 14:55, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:18:58 -0300
rafael ff1  wrote:


's' stands for Secure. Maybe security is a good reason.


Oh, okay, so you put an "S" in and it waves the magic "secure" stick.  Very 
good.

What happens if you're using a password you don't care about for AUR?

If you are using such password then you are putting AUR at risk because 
if your password can be easily cracked there is a possibility that an 
attacker would be able to compromise the whole AUR service using your 
account (see recent news about kernel.org [1] [2] ) and that will not be 
good at all. So please use reasonably strong password even if you don't 
care about AUR yourself...


(HTTPS means HTTP over SSL, so it encrypts your COMMUNICATION - it will 
not make your AUR password any more hack-proof if your password is weak)


Is there any particular problem why you can't/don't want to use HTTPS?
If yes, we may be able to help you...

[1] - http://kernel.org 
[2] - http://pastebin.com/BKcmMd47

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[Baptiste]

On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 02:55:50PM +0100, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:18:58 -0300
> rafael ff1  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 's' stands for Secure. Maybe security is a good reason.
> > 
> 
> Oh, okay, so you put an "S" in and it waves the magic "secure" stick.  Very 
> good.
> 
> What happens if you're using a password you don't care about for AUR?

This is by no way an argument... What happens if *at least* one person
cares about its AUR password out there? And anyway, having an AUR
account hijacked could be damageable to a lot of people.

And would you really be ok if someone popped up a fake AUR website
at your browser? (let's say in Syria...) Obviously, your browser won't
notice anything if you're using plain old HTTP.

And seriously, you must be logging in to a bunch of website every day
(be it your webmail, your Twitter/G+/whatever); are you really,
deliberately using HTTP there? If you lived in China, Libya or Syria,
you wouldn't...

The current SSL system has some weaknesses, most notably being forced
to trust a tremendous amount of CAs. But then, why stick to something
that's more than 15 years old, when there is an alternative that
offers you encryption and makes sure that you talk to the real server?

-- 
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GNU/Linux fan && Archlinux user

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[rafael ff1]

2011/9/3 Gordon JC Pearce :
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:18:58 -0300
> rafael ff1  wrote:
>
>>
>> 's' stands for Secure. Maybe security is a good reason.
>>
>
> Oh, okay, so you put an "S" in and it waves the magic "secure" stick.  Very 
> good.
>
> What happens if you're using a password you don't care about for AUR?
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ 
>

Do you mean a password that is easy to be cracked? This would be a
case for feature request for password policy.

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[Gordon JC Pearce]

On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:18:58 -0300
rafael ff1  wrote:

> 
> 's' stands for Secure. Maybe security is a good reason.
> 

Oh, okay, so you put an "S" in and it waves the magic "secure" stick.  Very 
good.

What happens if you're using a password you don't care about for AUR?

-- 
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ 

Re: [aur-general] Securing the AUR website

[Ray Rashif]

On 3 September 2011 09:29, Gordon JC Pearce  wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:36:34 +0200
> Cédric Girard  wrote:
>
>> > What happens if you *don't want to use https*?
>> >
>>
>> I still have difficulties to understand why people would like to purposely
>> avoid using https.
>
> I still have difficulties understanding why people would purposely use 
> https...
> What's the benefit?

I personally don't like "https everywhere" because its overhead is
significant for slow connections which I have to deal with. However,
I'm all for "https logins" because I wouldn't want my information to
be intercepted easily.


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