[Aus-soaring] Temora State Comps
The below is from Scott Lennon - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - For those interested in the State comps at Temora we have now flown 3 days and this morning is clear skies. Results are up at www.flytemora.org.au (thanks Nick). Results for day3 open will be updated after a couple of outlanding files and some others are included at briefing. Yesterday was a very interesting day! Launch was completed with a wall of raised dust approaching from the SW. Our task took us NW then east before coming back. The AAT 2hr std, 2.5hr open, meant that we would have to come back through the front some where on the last leg. This provided some interesting racing and challenging final glides. Winds were about 15kts NW east of the front then light winds behind the front increasing as you got lower to about 15kts S on the ground. I found my on the safety numbers final glide from the east turned into a marginal look out the side window scrap home. I heard other similar stories. 3 days to go Scott Nicholas Gilbert Domino Developer Tel +61 8 8392 2147 Fax +61 8 8276 5844 www.cwines.com.au Constellation Wines Australia (CWAU) replaced the trading name of the Hardy Wine Company on 31 March 2008image/jpeg___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State titles results
Unless their server is down - just like the JoeyGlide one is... Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aus-soaring] NSW State titles results [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: aus-soaring 16/11/2007 09:00 AM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net The results previously available via JoeGlide were compiled by SeeYou; they now provide the facility to upload comp results from SeeYou Comp with a single click: http://blipmap.walsys.net/forum/index.php?topic=40.0 I suspect the internet access from Keepit is preventing timely posting of the results. the above facility should make it easy enough. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] State Comp Scores
Are back up - http://joeyglide.com/ContestLIVE/NSWStateComps/tabid/241/Default.aspx They are current as of yesterday. Some browsers might have problems refreshing the pages - if so, clicking on any of the links (ie. the Day links) should refresh them. Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Scores
Are here - http://www.joeyglide.com/ContestLIVE/NSWStateComps/tabid/241/Default.aspx If anyone has any problems looking at them, please let me know directly (and let me know what browser browser version you are running). Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Thanks Nick
no problems - just make sure you notice the JoeyGlide sponsor logos :) Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Thanks Nick nandrews to: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 15/11/2007 02:20 PM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Thanks Nick - good work Nig Are here - http://www.joeyglide.com/ContestLIVE/NSWStateComps/tabid/241/Default.aspx If anyone has any problems looking at them, please let me know directly (and let me know what browser browser version you are running). Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals
Do you think it's possible that the stretch marks in CK act like the dimples on a golf ball? Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Stuart Kerri FERGUSON to: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 24/09/2007 04:26 PM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net I like seeing Tom knock off all the big $ machines in his trusty Libelle :) SDF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Good point Nigel. Another point is that there is no god given entitlement for people to be able to compete in the latest greatest... Hire a club astir from somewhere and fly the Club Class Nationals - It's no less competitive. Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals nandrews to: 'Mal Bruce', 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 24/09/2007 02:47 PM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net I seem to remember Michael Sommer doing pretty well in an SZD55 at Gulgong - against LS8 and alike, was it 2004? The glider dosenth makeith the pilot, in other words having the latest and greatest is not the be all to end all, also remember Shane Mcaffrey doing pretty well in a hornet in standard class at a Kingaroy nats - not to long ago either. These pilots show raw ability. I have a new V2cx but I think I flew better when I used to borrow my mates LS7! Nigel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mal Bruce Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 2:16 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals I am sure there are a few more Australians that would also like to fly in our Nationals. After all it is not the Internationals, definitely case of the haves and have nots. Should a ASG29 or ASW 28 turn up for this period I would join the haves for a limited time and be ever grateful! Would it make it in time Bernard from NZ Regards Mal www.mals.net 1. Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals (Tim Shirley) 2. Re: Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals (Jeff Woodward) Hi All, There are a number of foreign pilots seeking gliders to hire for the Multiclass Nationals at Temora, 14th-25th January. If anyone on the list has, or knows of, gliders that may be available, please contact Daryl Connell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Tim ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals
He wasn't asking if it was necessary to have the latest and greatest to win, he was asking if there was an advantage. Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Dave to: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 25/09/2007 09:53 AM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Hi all, Errmmm Ash, would that be why the last JG was won by James Dutchke flying an Astir CS77 with only 100kg max of ballast? Not what I would have thought as a latest and greatest glider.(-: Regards Dave L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashley Boyle Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 11:41 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Hi Not sure this has much to do with the rest of the conversation but here goes. Any thoughts?? Having a better glider at a comp like JG for instance would be a good advantage. I did some thinking and have worked out a theory its top secret but thats why im telling people. As far as i know the Joey glide comp uses club class handicaps which is fine but we are also able to carry water and i don't think there is any extra penalty for this. So if you take an older glider like your std cirrus and put a whole 60l in there then take your Discus2 or LS-8 and put 200l the better glider has way more of an advantage. So at a comp like JG you would be better off trying to get hold of the latest and greatest, am i right? Ash Mal Bruce wrote: Nigel said I seem to remember Michael Sommer doing pretty well in an SZD55 at Gulgong - against LS8 and alike, was it 2004? 2004 did they have an 18 meter class ? http://www.mals.net/gulgong NO Lucky they had the international pilots to have enough numbers for the comp. Nigel said The glider dosenth makeith the pilot, in other words having the latest and greatest is not the be all to end all, also remember Shane Mcaffrey doing pretty well in a hornet in standard class at a Kingaroy nats - not to long ago either. These pilots show raw ability. I remember doing well my 301 libelle . I have a new V2cx but I think I flew better when I used to borrow my mates LS7! And will you be flying your latest and greatest in 18 meter class at the Nationals ? Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals
First of all, Dave, why the sarcasm? It appeared to me that you had overlooked something, and I pointed it out. James would have won the comp on a hangar door - he literally had a disadvantage, but was good enough to overcome it. The disadvantage / advantage in choice of aircraft is not insignificant. Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Dave to: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 25/09/2007 11:25 AM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Nick said, He wasn't asking if it was necessary to have the latest and greatest to win, he was asking if there was an advantage Oh gee was he really? shock, horror I would have thought the winner using an older relatively low performance glider would be most relevant to show that it was no great advantage to have a higher performance glider, (as others who didn't beat him did) and that the skill of the pilot probably counts for a lot more than the performance of the glider. Silly old me, I assumed when he said advantage, he meant he would do better results wise in the comp, at least that was how a competition advantage was defined as I remember it. Is there some new definition of advantage I am not aware of? Todd said: James didn't win cause he was in an Astir. he won cause he is really good. If he was in a better glider he would have won by a whole lot more Yep, that's exactly my point Todd, it was pilot skill, not the performance of the glider that won that comp. Regards Dave ---Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2007 9:57 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals He wasn't asking if it was necessary to have the latest and greatest to win, he was asking if there was an advantage. Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Dave to: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 25/09/2007 09:53 AM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Hi all, Errmmm Ash, would that be why the last JG was won by James Dutchke flying an Astir CS77 with only 100kg max of ballast? Not what I would have thought as a latest and greatest glider.(-: Regards Dave L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashley Boyle Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 11:41 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Hi Not sure this has much to do with the rest of the conversation but here goes. Any thoughts?? Having a better glider at a comp like JG for instance would be a good advantage. I did some thinking and have worked out a theory its top secret but thats why im telling people. As far as i know the Joey glide comp uses club class handicaps which is fine but we are also able to carry water and i don't think there is any extra penalty for this. So if you take an older glider like your std cirrus and put a whole 60l in there then take your Discus2 or LS-8 and put 200l the better glider has way more of an advantage. So at a comp like JG you would be better off trying to get hold of the latest and greatest, am i right? Ash Mal Bruce wrote: Nigel said I seem to remember Michael Sommer doing pretty well in an SZD55 at Gulgong - against LS8 and alike, was it 2004? 2004 did they have an 18 meter class ? http://www.mals.net/gulgong NO Lucky they had the international pilots to have enough numbers for the comp. Nigel said The glider dosenth makeith the pilot, in other words having the latest and greatest is not the be all to end all, also remember Shane Mcaffrey doing pretty well in a hornet in standard class at a Kingaroy nats - not to long ago either. These pilots show raw ability. I remember doing well my 301 libelle . I have a new V2cx but I think I flew better when I used to borrow my mates LS7! And will you be flying your latest and greatest in 18 meter class at the Nationals ? Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit:
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals
Good point Nigel. Another point is that there is no god given entitlement for people to be able to compete in the latest greatest... Hire a club astir from somewhere and fly the Club Class Nationals - It's no less competitive. Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals nandrews to: 'Mal Bruce', 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 24/09/2007 02:47 PM Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net I seem to remember Michael Sommer doing pretty well in an SZD55 at Gulgong - against LS8 and alike, was it 2004? The glider dosenth makeith the pilot, in other words having the latest and greatest is not the be all to end all, also remember Shane Mcaffrey doing pretty well in a hornet in standard class at a Kingaroy nats - not to long ago either. These pilots show raw ability. I have a new V2cx but I think I flew better when I used to borrow my mates LS7! Nigel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mal Bruce Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 2:16 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals I am sure there are a few more Australians that would also like to fly in our Nationals. After all it is not the Internationals, definitely case of the haves and have nots. Should a ASG29 or ASW 28 turn up for this period I would join the haves for a limited time and be ever grateful! Would it make it in time Bernard from NZ Regards Mal www.mals.net 1. Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals (Tim Shirley) 2. Re: Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals (Jeff Woodward) Hi All, There are a number of foreign pilots seeking gliders to hire for the Multiclass Nationals at Temora, 14th-25th January. If anyone on the list has, or knows of, gliders that may be available, please contact Daryl Connell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Tim ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA batteries
I could be wrong - I thought my old 5500 only had an SD card slot. My new H4700 has both SD CF. I'm sure there is a CF sleeve available for the 5500. Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/08/2007 10:50 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA batteries The 5550 has a CF card slot. Set up the unit as you like (see you etc) then perform a full backup to the card. It only takes a minute or so to perform a full restore when required. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2007 10:06 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA batteries HI Wayne, Luckily for you, the quite new (HP)IPAQ 4700 has a backup battery-Older (COMPAQ)IPAQ 36xx,37xx,38xx,50xx do not, so watch out! Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Carter Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 9:16 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] PDA batteries from Dave-(snip) One last note, IPAQ's have no backup battery and if charged and left on the charger they do not start charging until the power is disconnected, so that if you leave one fully charged on the charger for say a month it will flatten the battery and lose its data, even though the charger is connected. I strongly suggest you make us of the full backup facility on the PDA when everything is setup, so restoring the PDA is quick and easy. The best bet is to have a timer on the charger that disconnects the power once a day for 5 minutes, then the PDA will charge again.(Great piece of design that)! (Snip) eh? My 4700 has a good backup battery, goes for weeks with no main battery charge. Perhaps not all Ipaqs are this way? Safe season Wayne ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] E: More competition results
Or they could have been following Michael Sommer :) Matthew Gage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/07/2007 01:40 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To [EMAIL PROTECTED], Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject Re: [Aus-soaring] E: More competition results Given that so many have the same time (13:50) and this is the latest start time listed - did they have a gate close time, and anyone after that scores as starting at that time ? On 16/07/2007, at 13:37 , nandrews wrote: Good results for the Aussies! Did you see the start times for open? Must have been a bit crowded with all those wings. Nig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Monday, 16 July 2007 1:05 PM To: Aus-Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] More competition results Congratulations also to the 18m guys flying at Lusse in Germany. Graham Parker was second and David Jansen was third on day 1 Link is http://www.wgc2008.org/ -Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] accident rate for gliders in Australia
indeed - 3 of the 4 wheels up landing i've seen have been following straight ins. Nick. Matthew Gage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26/04/2007 08:54 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject Re: [Aus-soaring] accident rate for gliders in Australia Exactly why a rigid downwind check is not a good idea, but training to have the glider in the correct configuration for phase of flight is. In an ideal world, the 2 coincide. When they don't, expect trouble. I wonder how many wheel up incidents are preceded by no downwind leg ? On 26/04/2007, at 8:52 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote: When I have decided to land, I put down the under carriage. Then in the circuit, I look at the placard and touch (push or pull) the undercarriage lever and make sure it is locked down, and repeat the locking check a couple of times in the circuit in a OCD manner. I have had one landing with U/C up and one near one. Both were in a Blanik (for those that do not know, is not a disaster, just embarrassing). Both times I was early in my career as an instructor in the back and I have not done it YET when solo or with a passenger. The first time, I heard my student do the checks but I did not check him as he was making me feel anxious with his circuit and my head was outside the cockpit. I have also had one near landing with U/C up when the student (also a licensed power pilot) picked up our mistake on final whilst doing his power PUFF check. We did not do a downwind (hence no checks) as we joined the circuit on base leg as were caught out low after some tasks. PeterS JR wrote: When you do your checks, do you say them out-loud, or in your head, and do you physicaly touch or do you just look for where things are, I remember an accident/incident in a powered aircraft, that a rear seat passenger had a video camera and was filming at the time of the emergency, and when the authorities looked at the footage, the pilot never moved anything, but actually touched everything in the emergency check list as he was shown during training, never actually having an emergency, just going through the motions, ( probably in more ways than one ). Interesting though , JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?
Haven't tried West End? Kevin McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18/04/2007 09:11 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4? I though that Gliders were like beer, no bad ones, just some better than others. K From: Caleb White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:12:43 +1000 Itâ??s actually very simple, although itâ??s taken me ten years to work it out - My favourite glider is the one Iâ??m flying at the time. Thatâ??s any glider, wood, metal or even plastic. -Original Message- From: JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:20:30 +0930 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4? Surely Bruce you cannot say that a cirrus has feel in the elevator circuit ? and as for hornets libelles mosquito,s they are nice and light on the controls, you think them around the sky, beautiful, a sailplane you can fly all day and still feel refreshed , I just like flying, and I dont mind most of the machines we have in Australia, my dislikes of some types comes from working on them. regards JR - Original Message - From: Bruce Campbell To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4? Mitch, Std Cirrus is MUCH nicer to fly than a Libelle. Just don't let go of the stick, and don't fly it at the aft limit. Aileron/rudder coord is perfect. Libelle is shocking. Elevator is not pitch sensitive as such, it is just low stick force per G. That sounds counter-intuitive, but for normal control movements it is not sensitive, but excessive movements produce large G loading - esp if you let go of the stick and it gets a gust or something - then the stick goes to full travel (either way) and you get a large G response. Easy fix - DON'T LET GO OF THE STICK. I never had PIO in a Std Cirrus, and I've flown 7 of them now. I did have PIO in a Hornet (piece of junk) as there is no feel to the stick at all. Cheers Bruce On 17/04/07, Mitchell Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like the result of a Piper Cub and a K4 having a quick 'liaison' behind a hangar... Speaking of all-moving tails (boom tish!), I always found myself at least 10 seconds behind the similarly-adorned Janus that BT used to have at his Kentucky ops. I've never quite worked up the courage to get back into a glider of the AMT species. I'm sure my fears are unfounded - just a case of once bitten etc. I dips me lid to you Std Cirrus drivers. Can't be any more 'difficult' to fly than a Std Libelle, can they? On the topic of glider handling characteristics, an open question to all and sundry (and JR): which glider has had you walking away from it after landing saying Thanks, but no thanks? I don't mean the Libelle, by the way (my father had one - I thought it was tops). Alf Lying-Tale. On 17/04/2007, at 7:57 AM, Caleb White wrote: That's actually one of the more tasteful K-4 motor conversions I've seen photos of. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ Advertisement: 1000s of Sexy Singles online now at Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D27782_t=762229680_r=lavalife_apr07_1000sexysingles_m=EXT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list
Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider wanted to $20 k
I know a few square-ish shouldered people who fit in Standard Libelles I am also an advocate for the Cirrus - although people will tell you that the all-flying tail is deadly (where are these comments, by the way - surely they are overdue for this thread) It really isn't an issue. Considering the results of various club class world comps they obviously box slightly above their weight. You may also consider a Jantar Std 2 - Might be *slightly* more than 20k but not much. EVERYONE fits in Jantars (although nobody is particularly comfortable). Nick. Dave Shorter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/04/2007 09:11 AM Please respond to Dave Shorter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider wanted to $20 k I disagree. Hornet, Mosquito, and Club Libelle are all very roomy and comfortable (I'm 6'2 or 188cm). Standard Libelle maybe a squeeze. Glasfluegel machines were also very sound designs, and very advanced for their time - and self connect, no L'hotellier fittings. I'm a fan of Glasfluegel. Dave - Original Message - From: JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider wanted to $20 k Go for the astir or cirrus, most of the glasflugel machines are narrow in the fuse, beautiful sailplanes though. JR - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: RE: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider wanted to $20 k Thank you all for the advice. So what I'm looking at is a standard glass glider. I'm 6ft (183 cm) with fairly wide shoulders so I want to fit in ok too. Could anyone who knows of actual gliders for sale like this please let me know about them? Thanks, Greg. --- Original Message --- From: Ashley Boyle[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4/13/2007 5:09:18 PM To : aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider wanted to $20 k Hi Greg. For $20,000 i would recommend something like a standard cirrus. Cirrus's perform well and are still very competitive in competition flying. They have a very good handicap. I wouldn't rule out an Astir CS/77 either.Just my thoughts Ashley Boyle (1/3 owner of cirrus GZU :-) ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a glider trailer for up to $20,000. Please let me know if you know of any for sale. I have low hours and would also appreciate advice on what would be suitable. Thanks, Greg. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring E-mail message checked by PC Tools Spyware Doctor (5.0.0.179) Database version: 5.07080 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Dalby Easter Comps?
I can't find any on the comp website ( http://www.boonahgliding.com.au/blueclouds/eastercompsresults.html ) . Bit of deja vu here as well - we went through the same thing last year. Surely there is someone in QLD that can keep a comp website up to date. Nick. Chris Kiehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/04/2007 06:45 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Dalby Easter Comps? anyone have any results from Dalby? Cant find any info on the Boonah site. Thanks Chris ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tost wheel brakes
If an aircraft has a mechanism (separate handle or end of airbrake travel) to actuate a wheel brake, but the brake has been disabled or is not functioning as it should, should it not be filled out as a minor defect in the MR? Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Mark Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/03/2007 12:41 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject Re: [Aus-soaring] Tost wheel brakes Mike Borgelt wrote: Anyone else see what's wrong with this? I take it you're referring to the deliberate impairment of a potentially life-saving device in an aircraft to work around a personal discipline lapse amongst its pilots? - mark [ who spent about 2 hours repairing a wheel brake cable last night :-) ] I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82356937 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide
Ben, You have to be less than 26 years old at the start of the competition. There are no limitations with regard to flying experience - we have had pilots with 100hrs, and pilots with 4000hrs! Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Ben Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2007 07:32 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] Joeyglide Just read the article in SA about Joeyglide very interesting ! Just a couple of questions What are the requirements for entry and are there any max age limits or experience limits. And if i did endup entering the next one do i have to beg borrow or steal a glider and drag it across the paddock from WA. Regards Ben Junior in hours but maybee seen as a grandpa in age Jones___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality
I guess the descision has to be made early in a nosewheel aircraft whether or not to apply the wheel brake. The Puchatek in particular, in my experience, is a particularly nose heavy nose dragger. With both cockpits empty it will sit on either the nose or tail depending on what you want. With some other types it requires some force or a pilot sitting in the front seat to get it to go on the nosewheel. Condolences to all at Keepit. Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Michael Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/02/2007 10:55 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality Hi Derek Pushing forward on the stick only increases the nose wheel weight and lessens the likelihood of a change of direction. It must be full back stick, full aileron and full rudder in the direction of the down-wing. What I do not know (regretfully, have been instructing in nose-wheel 2-seaters for 12 years so I should have discovered this by now) is the speed below which the elevator becomes useless. We do teach full back stick 2 pointer touch down and to hold the stick there for the rest of the ground roll - to reduce the vibration damage from the nose wheel on our rough airfield and maximise drag. At some lower speed (after landing) initiating a ground loop becomes problematic. I wish I knew that speed as it delineates decision time to initiate a ground loop. Cheers Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Ruddock Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 11:07 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality Is perhaps the groundloop technique of pushing forward on the stick and applying full rudder inappropriate for a nosewheeel glider? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shirley Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 10:17 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality Hi Ian Good point. No one has experimented to establish at what speed a Puchatek (and perhaps many other nose-wheel gliders) lose elevator rudder authority. John Viney agrees we should do this experiment. If the LKSC Puchatek is written off it would be a good opportunity to do this test - I have passed on the idea to the committee. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian McPhee Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 9:56 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality I am not sure but believe there are certain nose wheel gliders that are difficult to ground loop (KRO3A just goes straight when nose wheel is on ground and no way can you steer it). Perhaps as such aircraft come into the country they could be fitted with the dutch wire lifting bar to inside of canopy as part of MAR1 at import (like pull up seat belts etc). The dutch have done engineering and ALL dutch gliders have same. I do know Paul Mathews had same fitted to one of his gliders when flying around Gulcong and said it is easy to get to use. Just a thought...Ian McPhee - Original Message - From: John Parncutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality Given the amount of incidents which have occurred with aerodrome perimeter fences especially in gliding, perhaps thought should be given to changing the design of these fences to make them more forgiving. Possibilities may include some sort of weak link system in each wire or perhaps sprung sections which may allow the canopy to deflect the wire. I'm sure there is enough ingenuity within the gliding movement to come up with some ideas to make these fences safer whilst still performing their function. John Parncutt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Taylor Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 8:24 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RE: Another fatality Good call, Mitch. The only addition I would like to make is that it seems the pilot/instructor had very few options... he was released at low altitude without enough energy to clear the fence, and (thinking through the evidence I have heard) with a downburst happening somewhere behind him. This leaves him with an increasing tailwind, and if he was touching down somewhere
RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps
Dave, The nationals rules don't apply to state competitions - they apply to national competitions. Makes perfect sense to me. The state based competitions arent modifying the nationals rules - they have their own. Good thing too, they are entry level events. The state based cricket competition doesn't play 5 day test matches. Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines David Lawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/01/2007 10:03 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps Hi All, Whereas I thought I read somewhere that one qualified for a FAI comp license in part by entering regional competitions, a bit of a catch 22 this eh? No license, no compete, no compete no license! Why am I not surprised! One thing I have never been able to fathom is how States are allowed to modify the nationals rules at will, it seems to me they should be decided Nationally, and states should not be able to tack on their own extras, such as mandatory FLARM without National body approval of a rule change. It seems crazy to allow this to me, and I can think of no other sport that does this sort of thing. National comp rules should be a matter for national consideration, not the whim of a state body. Regards Dave L. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robinson, Peter B Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2007 8:43 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps Or if you call the event a Regatta then you don't need Competitors licenses nor do you require competition insurance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hart Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2007 7:54 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps David Nugent wrote: Rolf, Competition licenses have not been required at past Horsham Weeks (including when they are a State comp), my understanding is that they are only reqd at National level. It is my understanding that in order to be able to use the GFA competition insurance cover, all competing pilots must have an FAI competitor's licence. This is why all competitions in Qld (including the Easter competition) require competitor's licences. -- Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring The material contained in this email may be confidential, privileged or copyrighted. If you are not the intended recipient, use, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please advise the sender and delete the document. Neither OneSteel nor the sender accept responsibility for any viruses contained in this email or any attachments. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps
Further to this, the rules for both nationals and state competitions are largely formulated by the attendees themselves at Pilot's Meetings. The wishes of a body of pilots attending a National Competition may not be the same as the pilots attending a State Competition. Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/01/2007 10:19 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps Dave, The nationals rules don't apply to state competitions - they apply to national competitions. Makes perfect sense to me. The state based competitions arent modifying the nationals rules - they have their own. Good thing too, they are entry level events. The state based cricket competition doesn't play 5 day test matches. Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines David Lawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/01/2007 10:03 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps Hi All, Whereas I thought I read somewhere that one qualified for a FAI comp license in part by entering regional competitions, a bit of a catch 22 this eh? No license, no compete, no compete no license! Why am I not surprised! One thing I have never been able to fathom is how States are allowed to modify the nationals rules at will, it seems to me they should be decided Nationally, and states should not be able to tack on their own extras, such as mandatory FLARM without National body approval of a rule change. It seems crazy to allow this to me, and I can think of no other sport that does this sort of thing. National comp rules should be a matter for national consideration, not the whim of a state body. Regards Dave L. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robinson, Peter B Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2007 8:43 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps Or if you call the event a Regatta then you don't need Competitors licenses nor do you require competition insurance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hart Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2007 7:54 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps David Nugent wrote: Rolf, Competition licenses have not been required at past Horsham Weeks (including when they are a State comp), my understanding is that they are only reqd at National level. It is my understanding that in order to be able to use the GFA competition insurance cover, all competing pilots must have an FAI competitor's licence. This is why all competitions in Qld (including the Easter competition) require competitor's licences. -- Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring The material contained in this email may be confidential, privileged or copyrighted. If you are not the intended recipient, use, disclosure or copying of this information is prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please advise the sender and delete the document. Neither OneSteel nor the sender accept responsibility for any viruses contained in this email or any attachments. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NASA, a Super Blanik and Dynamic Soaring
Wasn't it an Open Libelle? Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Mike Borgelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17/01/2007 05:53 PM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To [EMAIL PROTECTED], Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject Re: [Aus-soaring] NASA, a Super Blanik and Dynamic Soaring At 08:34 AM 17/01/2007, you wrote: This may be of interest to some: http://inside.afit.edu/page.cfm?article=2atype=0edition=8 I am still looking for further details. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring IIRC Ingo did some dynamic soaring nearly 30 years ago in a PIK at Toc. From what I could see of the NASA/USAF effort they got a small energy gain but no altitude maintenance. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] DI ?
Oh my god is right!! That is amazing. Here it is from the Salvage website - http://www.aigaviation.com/salvage/N9FM/SalvageN9FM.aspx Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines Mal Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/2007 11:52 AM Please respond to Mal Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject [Aus-soaring] DI ? http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoID=1626018608 http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20060801X01062key=1 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: E: [Aus-soaring] RE: first flight - more of those kinks
A DG-1000 did 1000km at Corowa week or so ago. Imagine how far that would gone without drag inducing kinks! Nick. nandrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18/12/2006 11:21 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject E: [Aus-soaring] RE: first flight - more of those kinks It will never go any good with those drag inducing kinks! Mike, what price are they selling them for? Nigel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Saturday, 16 December 2006 10:12 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] RE: first flight The JS1 has flown. see www.jonkersailplanes.co.za Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] JoeyGlide T-Shirts
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[Aus-soaring] Nicholas Gilbert is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 24/11/2006 and will not return until 04/12/2006. I will respond to your message when I return. If it is an urgent Lotus Notes problem, please contact the Helpdesk.___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please...
I think the better option is the CompactFlash sleeve with the CompactFlash GPS. I use one with Winpilot on my Ipaq - it's a no-brainer to set up. They are readily available on eBay. This is possibly an even better option than powering through a Cambridge Logger (Model 20 or 302) as it doesn't use the proprietry plug at the bottom of the Ipaq, just the simple power plug slot which is then easy to set up by buying a cigarette lighter charger for your Ipaq which already does the 12v - 5v conversion required. For those that fly club gliders, I think this is definately the best solution - as long as you are reasonably careful to have the Ipaq charged before you go flying, you can make up an angle bracket with suction cups and a small (3ah) SLA 12v battery fitted which gives you a completely self contained GPS solution that attaches to the canopy requiring no wiring, cables, etc. PDA current draw is quite OK when keeping the device topped up during operation, but actual charging can draw up to an amp. Regards, Nick Gilbert Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/2006 10:05 AM Please respond to Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... If you choose the blue tooth option be sure to always clear running programs. Blue tooth wants active sync and that slows the connection down to never sometimes.GH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 9:28 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... If the glider is already fitted with OzFlarm, its GPS and its barometric sensor output works well with XCSoar on a PDA. No need for a GPS plugin for the PDA. A.J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Wilksch Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 8:22 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... If its just for soaring, a PDA with GPS pluggin running XCsoar or Mobile SeeYou Tom - Original Message - From: Mitchell Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Groutings forum, I'm toying with the notion of buying a GPS unit; budget around $500. What makes and models may be recommended by your good selves? Sandshoe fairy mulch, Mitch Preston. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.29/520 - Release Date: 6-11-2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.29/520 - Release Date: 6-11-2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring __ NOD32 1.1856 (20061106) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
