Re: [Aus-soaring] NZ - bit more info

2011-11-08 Thread Mike Borgelt

At 05:41 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:

http://www.scene.co.nz/new-caa-rules-for-air-thrills-firms/293895a1.pagehttp://www.scene.co.nz/new-caa-rules-for-air-thrills-firms/293895a1.page
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The seminar was held to explain how to complete 
the reams of paperwork needed to comply with CAA 
rule part 115 – Adventure Aviation – Certification and Operations.


The CAA anticipates it will issue about 50 
certificates, costing about $7,600 each, within the first year.


Wonderful, not how to operate safely but how to 
fill in the extensive paperwork and be charged 
for it. If the Mafia did this it would be called a protection racket.
Eventually the parasite class will find that the 
corpse of the productive class doesn't have any more blood in it.


Mike
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Re: [Aus-soaring] NZ - bit more info

2011-11-08 Thread Mike Borgelt

At 06:28 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:

At 05:41 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:
http://www.scene.co.nz/new-caa-rules-for-air-thrills-firms/293895a1.pagehttp://www.scene.co.nz/new-caa-rules-for-air-thrills-firms/293895a1.page 


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The seminar was held to explain how to complete 
the reams of paperwork needed to comply with CAA 
rule part 115 – Adventure Aviation – Certification and Operations.


The CAA anticipates it will issue about 50 
certificates, costing about $7,600 each, within the first year.


Wonderful, not how to operate safely but how to 
fill in the extensive paperwork and be charged 
for it. If the Mafia did this it would be called a protection racket.
Eventually the parasite class will find that the 
corpse of the productive class doesn't have any more blood in it.


Mike


What's really funny though is that this is the 
country that invented commercial bungee jumping!


Mike
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Re: [Aus-soaring] NZ - bit more info

2011-11-08 Thread Paul Bart
Maybe it is all about Australia NZ rivalry, Australia is first with such
widely based the carbon tax, so NZ ups the ante with being first with this
regulation, and proud of it obviously, given this “We are to my knowledge
is the only regulator in the world to introduce an adventure aviation rule.



Cheers

Paul


On 9 November 2011 08:38, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.comwrote:

  At 06:28 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:

 At 05:41 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:

  http://www.scene.co.nz/new-caa-rules-for-air-thrills-firms/293895a1.page
 ___



 The seminar was held to explain how to complete the reams of paperwork
 needed to comply with CAA rule part 115 – *Adventure Aviation –
 Certification and Operations*.

 The CAA anticipates it will issue about 50 certificates, costing about
 $7,600 each, within the first year.

 Wonderful, not how to operate safely but how to fill in the extensive
 paperwork and be charged for it. If the Mafia did this it would be called a
 protection racket.
 Eventually the parasite class will find that the corpse of the productive
 class doesn't have any more blood in it.

 Mike

 *
 What's really funny though is that this is the country that invented
 commercial bungee jumping!

 Mike*

  *Borgelt Instruments* - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments
 since 1978
 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784
 fax   Int'l + 61 746 358796
 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784

 email:   mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com
 website: www.borgeltinstruments.com

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Re: [Aus-soaring] NZ - bit more info

2011-11-08 Thread Rob Moore
Mike I certainly hope they do not restrict the GFA AEF system. It is expensive 
enough now. 

You would be more familiar than I am as to the number of incidents GFA has had 
under the above system

Rob Moore


On 09/11/2011, at 10:06 AM, Mike Cleaver wom...@netspeed.com.au wrote:

 When it was first mooted ten years or so ago, the NZ Part 115 rule 
 potentially would have allowed customers to purchase a ride in a net slung 
 under a helicopter, among other weird ideas. They have toned it down a lot 
 and basically applied it to selling a sport aviation experience to people off 
 the street who are not capable of giving the informed consent that is an 
 inherent part in participating in an aviation sport.
 
 Australia has had CAO 95.4.1 for glider charter flights for over 15 years, 
 though nowadays most clubs use the air experience provisions to introduce 
 people to gliding.
 
 And it is over 25 years since Australia followed the UK and a lot of European 
 countries with normalised rules for passenger rides in hot air balloons, with 
 proper rules for commercial pilot licences and certified operators. We would 
 not call these balloon flights high risk as they are properly regulated - 
 unlike NZ until now. However, there are still some countries and some balloon 
 operators that do not apply safe operating rules, and they are the ones where 
 accidents have happened and passengers killed by totally avoidable 
 occurrences that have been improperly managed.
 
 From the latest information available, it seems my former employer has 
 started to move forward with our proposed new rules, which will be coming 
 from a quite different direction from our Pacific neighbours.
 
 Wombat
 
 At 10:02 9/11/2011, you wrote:
 Maybe it is all about Australia NZ rivalry, Australia is first with such 
 widely based the carbon tax, so NZ ups the ante with being first with this 
 regulation, and proud of it obviously, given this “We are to my knowledge is 
 the only regulator in the world to introduce an adventure aviation rule.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Paul
 
 
 On 9 November 2011 08:38, Mike Borgelt 
 mailto:mborg...@borgeltinstruments.commborg...@borgeltinstruments.com 
 wrote:
 At 06:28 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:
 At 05:41 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:
 http://www.scene.co.nz/new-caa-rules-for-air-thrills-firms/293895a1.pagehttp://www.scene.co.nz/new-caa-rules-for-air-thrills-firms/293895a1.page
  
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 The seminar was held to explain how to complete the reams of paperwork 
 needed to comply with CAA rule part 115 – Adventure Aviation – 
 Certification and Operations.
 
 The CAA anticipates it will issue about 50 certificates, costing about 
 $7,600 each, within the first year.
 
 Wonderful, not how to operate safely but how to fill in the extensive 
 paperwork and be charged for it. If the Mafia did this it would be called a 
 protection racket.
 Eventually the parasite class will find that the corpse of the productive 
 class doesn't have any more blood in it.
 
 Mike
 
 What's really funny though is that this is the country that invented 
 commercial bungee jumping!
 
 Mike
 
 Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978
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 fax   Int'l tel:%2B%2061%20746%20358796+ 61 746 358796
 cellphone Int'l tel:%2B%2061%20428%20355784+ 61 428 355784
 
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 mailto:mborg...@borgeltinstruments.commborg...@borgeltinstruments.com
 website: http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/www.borgeltinstruments.com
 
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