Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Matthew Moyle-Croft]

Hi,
Talking to your insurance agent about the costs of insuring various items
in transit is worth doing. Often as part of a larger business policy these
are not actually huge costs.

MMC

On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 16:24, Rhys Hanrahan  wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the responses! I managed to cause quite a flurry of
> activity – I really appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Have been mulling over all the inputs and right now I feel like checking
> in as luggage is off the cards  - most of the responses have been horror
> stories 😃 We have done this before for our own internal equipment and
> it’s been OK, but I wouldn’t do it in this case. IMO even if I wasn’t as
> worried about the equipment, it can be quite a hassle, so easier just to
> ship it.
>
> To me right now the two front runners are:
>
>- Quotes from sensitive freight companies – TSS and COPE are the two
>I’ve seen recommended. From some rough info about TSS it seems like they’d
>insure high value equipment without it costing and arm and a leg.
>- Quote from our existing business insurance company – for a few day
>period to cover the courier trip. We’ve started the wheels on getting this
>quoted as well.
>
> But also:
>
>- To be honest, the idea of just having general transit cover for
>anything that leaves our offices is an attractive idea, as we already ship
>new PCs etc from our offices nearly every day. And as luck would have it,
>it seems like we just lost 1 of 2 Wifi Access points sent to the same site…
>Glad it wasn’t the expensive equipment.
>- Driving the gear to site is definitely a good option, but as Joe
>mentioned, in this case it’d be a massive trip and the cost per day for the
>customer for our time would outweigh even TNT’s insurance – though waiting
>to see if they have someone who can make the trip!
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> *Rhys Hanrahan* | General Manager / CTO
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> *Subject: *[AusNOG] Courier insurance
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for
> domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for
> TNT’s transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a
> warranty 2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be
> able to work around that with multiple separate shipments.
>
>
>
> We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our
> offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north
> QLD. I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m
> looking for safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone
> is aware of good options for this sort of situation?
>
>
>
> We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the
> boxes in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any
> better. Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want
> to configure and test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in
> this case.
>
>
>
> Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!
>
>
>
> *Rhys Hanrahan* | General Manager / CTO
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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[David Treacy]

  *   Quote from our existing business insurance company – for a few day period 
to cover the courier trip. We’ve started the wheels on getting this quoted as 
well

This is the way to do it.  It’s very cheap to add a few hundred k worth of 
goods in transit cover, when adding it to all the other crap you have to insure 
against.


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From: AusNOG  On Behalf Of Rhys Hanrahan
Sent: Friday, 8 December 2023 11:59 AM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

Thanks everyone for the responses! I managed to cause quite a flurry of 
activity – I really appreciate it.

Have been mulling over all the inputs and right now I feel like checking in as 
luggage is off the cards  - most of the responses have been horror stories 😃 We 
have done this before for our own internal equipment and it’s been OK, but I 
wouldn’t do it in this case. IMO even if I wasn’t as worried about the 
equipment, it can be quite a hassle, so easier just to ship it.
To me right now the two front runners are:

  *   Quotes from sensitive freight companies – TSS and COPE are the two I’ve 
seen recommended. From some rough info about TSS it seems like they’d insure 
high value equipment without it costing and arm and a leg.
  *   Quote from our existing business insurance company – for a few day period 
to cover the courier trip. We’ve started the wheels on getting this quoted as 
well.
But also:

  *   To be honest, the idea of just having general transit cover for anything 
that leaves our offices is an attractive idea, as we already ship new PCs etc 
from our offices nearly every day. And as luck would have it, it seems like we 
just lost 1 of 2 Wifi Access points sent to the same site… Glad it wasn’t the 
expensive equipment.
  *   Driving the gear to site is definitely a good option, but as Joe 
mentioned, in this case it’d be a massive trip and the cost per day for the 
customer for our time would outweigh even TNT’s insurance – though waiting to 
see if they have someone who can make the trip!
Thanks everyone!
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Hi All,

Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for 
domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s 
transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 
2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work 
around that with multiple separate shipments.

We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our 
offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. 
I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking 
for safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone is aware of 
good options for this sort of situation?

We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes 
in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any better. 
Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want to 
configure and test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in this 
case.

Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!

Rhys Hanrahan | General Manager / CTO
m: 0414 83 83 43 

Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Rhys Hanrahan]

Thanks everyone for the responses! I managed to cause quite a flurry of 
activity – I really appreciate it.

Have been mulling over all the inputs and right now I feel like checking in as 
luggage is off the cards  - most of the responses have been horror stories 😃 We 
have done this before for our own internal equipment and it’s been OK, but I 
wouldn’t do it in this case. IMO even if I wasn’t as worried about the 
equipment, it can be quite a hassle, so easier just to ship it.
To me right now the two front runners are:

  *   Quotes from sensitive freight companies – TSS and COPE are the two I’ve 
seen recommended. From some rough info about TSS it seems like they’d insure 
high value equipment without it costing and arm and a leg.
  *   Quote from our existing business insurance company – for a few day period 
to cover the courier trip. We’ve started the wheels on getting this quoted as 
well.
But also:

  *   To be honest, the idea of just having general transit cover for anything 
that leaves our offices is an attractive idea, as we already ship new PCs etc 
from our offices nearly every day. And as luck would have it, it seems like we 
just lost 1 of 2 Wifi Access points sent to the same site… Glad it wasn’t the 
expensive equipment.
  *   Driving the gear to site is definitely a good option, but as Joe 
mentioned, in this case it’d be a massive trip and the cost per day for the 
customer for our time would outweigh even TNT’s insurance – though waiting to 
see if they have someone who can make the trip!
Thanks everyone!
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From: AusNOG  on behalf of Rhys Hanrahan 

Date: Thursday, 7 December 2023 at 11:01 pm
To: "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" 
Subject: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

Hi All,

Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for 
domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s 
transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 
2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work 
around that with multiple separate shipments.

We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our 
offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. 
I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking 
for safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone is aware of 
good options for this sort of situation?

We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes 
in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any better. 
Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want to 
configure and test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in this 
case.

Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!

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Hi All,

Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for 
domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s 
transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 
2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work 
around that with multiple separate shipments.

We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our 
offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. 
I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking 
for safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone is aware of 
good options for this sort of situation?

We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes 
in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any better. 
Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want to 
configure and test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in this 
case.

Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!

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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Stavros Patiniotis]

Hello Rhys,

 

Ask you insurance broker about Marine Transit insurance – its much more 
affordable.

 

From: AusNOG  On Behalf Of Rhys Hanrahan
Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2023 3:26 PM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

 

Hi All,

 

Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for 
domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s 
transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 
2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work 
around that with multiple separate shipments.

 

We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our 
offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. 
I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking 
for safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone is aware of 
good options for this sort of situation?

 

We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes 
in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any better. 
Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want to 
configure and test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in this 
case.

 

Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!

 

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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[justintwiss]

Would agree with Cope, have moved entire racks of kit between dcs without 
issue.Couriers?  Dropped a san, didn't say anything, we  noticed when when 
there was 5mm gap between the drive bay and chassis that wasn't there before.We 
have also used pack and send with success for random kit. With foam in place 
it's pretty difficult for even a baggage handler to damage.-JSent from my Galaxy
 Original message From: Simon Scott  Date: 
8/12/23  05:59  (GMT+08:00) To: Joseph Goldman  Cc: 
ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance try cope 
sensitive freightOn Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 08:32, Joseph Goldman 
 wrote:




Whilst usually I agree with just load it up and drive it, this particular trip 
is more like 1500km each way, so it will cost 4 full days in travel return trip 
to do so.I do love a good road trip though :D thoughts @Rhys? :P

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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance



Seasons’ Greetings Noggers,
 
If I have to use airlines to move equipment, I check it in as oversized 
baggage. Unfortunately, insurance for accompanied luggage is not great (usually 
non-existent) for the reasons Jennifer has
 shown.
Make sure equipment is boxed well. I’ve sat on the plane and watched baggage 
handlers throw boxes marked fragile onto the baggage cart.
 
Carriers we’ve learned to avoid are TNT (damaged equipment), Couriers Please 
(late/failed pickups/late deliveries) and Parcel to Courier (damaged equipment).
 
We’ve had good results with Aramex and Fedex. Look at TransDirect if you prefer 
a broker and multiple options.
 
In November we had new HP equipment for deployment at SY4.
I had it shipped to my home, tested a basic config, loaded it into my car and 
drove 850klms then unloaded at SY4 where it was installed and commissioned.
 
IMHO, the best way to get equipment safely to the DC is via car.
 

Regards,
 
 




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From: AusNOG 
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Sent: Friday, 8 December 2023 12:38 AM
To: Nathan Brookfield 
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Sadly I did this and ended up in a very bad situation.

 


I had some gear shipped to me in QLD, and was bringing back to me in Vic for 
the following weekend.


 


Saw it off at Brisbane all bagged and tagged.


 


Then in Melbourne, virgin says “we placed it on belt 2, we aren’t going 
responsible for you not picking it up”. Efforts to explain to the airline that 
no I didn’t pick it up, and that it never arrived on the belt the same as 
everything
 else.


 


They literally just ignored me and left me high and dry. Police said they could 
not do anything as no indication it was stolen, airport refused to check cctv 
as police didn’t do report, and baggage services kept shirking responsibility.


 


After lots of backward and forward, we just had to give up.


 


The vendor on the other hand was very understanding and it cost me as per our 
agreement, which was money I didn’t want to burn but sadly, had no choice 
because I needed to keep to my agreement. 


 


Overall, don’t trust the airlines. If you check it, make sure it’s got an air 
tag or something to track it down.


 


Jen 



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On 7 Dec 2023, at 23:14, Nathan Brookfield  
wrote:




 After many issues over the years with shipping equipment especially TNT, if 
I’m going anyway, I will always take it and check it in on the flight, in a lot 
of cases, it’s cheaper and yes, it might get thrown around a little bit, but it
 doesn’t matter what courier company you use it’s going to be a lot safer…. 


 





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[Craig Askings]

> On 8 Dec 2023, at 9:09 am, John Edwards  wrote:
> 
> I have heard of an expensive router chassis arriving with a 
> forklift-tyne-sized hole through the box to the other side.

I personally had this happen to a Brocade switch at PIPE Networks. We kept the 
ASIC heatsink with all its bent fins as a souvenir and a reminder to carefully 
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[Tim Jones]

Allow some extra time if you do go down the checked baggage route.
I transported a bike as oversized luggage on a return trip to QLD recently from 
Sydney. The bike made it with me on the way up, but the plane was too full on 
the way back so it was delayed by 24 hours, along with most of the other 
oversized luggage on that flight.

Cheers,
Tim


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Date: Thursday, 7 December 2023 at 11:01 pm
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net 
Subject: [AusNOG] Courier insurance
EXTERNAL: This email originated from outside Nexthop.
Hi All,

Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for 
domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s 
transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 
2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work 
around that with multiple separate shipments.

We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our 
offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. 
I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking 
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We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes 
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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[John Edwards]

People don't choose "courier" or "forklift driver" as their vocation out of
a burning desire to serve their fellow humans, so there's always an element
of risk in shipping.

Having said that, consider medical couriers as an option. These are people
who are usually hand-picked from courier companies for premium work and
have a greater sense of consequence with their work. There is usually some
company servicing a regional hospital on scheduled runs in every major town.

The guys who warehouse/deliver parts for Telstra and Nokia in Australia are
also the same guys who haul blood and kidneys for hospitals.

My personal story of tracking a missing router to the n-th degree found it
with dual-wheel tyre tracks across the box - it's difficult for them to
claim the waiver of liability when it's clearly one of their own vehicles
that damaged it. I have heard of an expensive router chassis arriving with
a forklift-tyne-sized hole through the box to the other side.

Tips for airline transport:
- Check the weight handling limit and try and stay under it - usually
something like 30kg per item
- Don't ship fully assembled routers, put the labelled line cards and PSU's
back in original boxes, and wrap those boxes with excessive amounts of
bubble wrap
- If you have support contracts, validate that the vendor actually has the
spares stocked near the destination for quick turnaround if something
happens
- Camera shops near you stock the "pelican" cases which are an ideal armour
for 1-3 RU size payloads and make you look badass at the luggage carousel
(allow time in your plan for pressure to equalise, these can be hard to
open after being subjected to altitude)
- Cisco 7200's were shipped so often back in the day that Cisco had a
replacement box as an orderable part number

John


On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 at 22:31, Rhys Hanrahan  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for
> domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for
> TNT’s transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a
> warranty 2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be
> able to work around that with multiple separate shipments.
>
>
>
> We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our
> offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north
> QLD. I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m
> looking for safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone
> is aware of good options for this sort of situation?
>
>
>
> We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the
> boxes in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any
> better. Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want
> to configure and test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in
> this case.
>
>
>
> Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!
>
>
>
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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Simon Scott]

try cope sensitive freight

On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 08:32, Joseph Goldman  wrote:

> Whilst usually I agree with just load it up and drive it, this particular
> trip is more like 1500km each way, so it will cost 4 full days in travel
> return trip to do so.
>
> I do love a good road trip though :D thoughts @Rhys? :P
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Darren Moss" 
> To: "Jennifer Sims" ; "Nathan Brookfield" <
> nathan.brookfi...@iperium.com.au>
> Cc: "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" 
> Sent: 8/12/2023 8:27:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance
>
> Seasons’ Greetings Noggers,
>
>
>
> If I have to use airlines to move equipment, I check it in as oversized
> baggage. Unfortunately, insurance for accompanied luggage is not great
> (usually non-existent) for the reasons Jennifer has shown.
>
> Make sure equipment is boxed well. I’ve sat on the plane and watched
> baggage handlers throw boxes marked fragile onto the baggage cart.
>
>
>
> Carriers we’ve learned to avoid are TNT (damaged equipment), Couriers
> Please (late/failed pickups/late deliveries) and Parcel to Courier (damaged
> equipment).
>
>
>
> We’ve had good results with Aramex and Fedex. Look at TransDirect if you
> prefer a broker and multiple options.
>
>
>
> In November we had new HP equipment for deployment at SY4.
>
> I had it shipped to my home, tested a basic config, loaded it into my car
> and drove 850klms then unloaded at SY4 where it was installed and
> commissioned.
>
>
>
> IMHO, the best way to get equipment safely to the DC is via car.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> *Darren Moss*
>
> General Manager
>
> Cloud365 Australia Pty Limited
>
> <https://www.cloud365.com.au/>
>
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> *From:* AusNOG  *On Behalf Of *Jennifer
> Sims
> *Sent:* Friday, 8 December 2023 12:38 AM
> *To:* Nathan Brookfield 
> *Cc:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance
>
>
>
> Sadly I did this and ended up in a very bad situation.
>
>
>
> I had some gear shipped to me in QLD, and was bringing back to me in Vic
> for the following weekend.
>
>
>
> Saw it off at Brisbane all bagged and tagged.
>
>
>
> Then in Melbourne, virgin says “we placed it on belt 2, we aren’t going
> responsible for you not picking it up”. Efforts to explain to the airline
> that no I didn’t pick it up, and that it never arrived on the belt the same
> as everything else.
>
>
>
> They literally just ignored me and left me high and dry. Police said they
> could not do anything as no indication it was stolen, airport refused to
> check cctv as police didn’t do report, and baggage services kept shirking
> responsibility.
>
>
>
> After lots of backward and forward, we just had to give up.
>
>
>
> The vendor on the other hand was very understanding and it cost me as per
> our agreement, which was money I didn’t want to burn but sadly, had no
> choice because I needed to keep to my agreement.
>
>
>
> Overall, don’t trust the airlines. If you check it, make sure it’s got an
> air tag or something to track it down.
>
>
>
> Jen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On 7 Dec 2023, at 23:14, Nathan Brookfield <
> nathan.brookfi...@iperium.com.au> wrote:
>
>  After many issues over the years with shipping equipment especially TNT,
> if I’m going anyway, I will always take it and check it in on the flight,
> in a lot of cases, it’s cheaper and yes, it might get thrown around a
> little bit, but it doesn’t matter what courier company you use it’s going
> to be a lot safer….
>
>
>
> *Nathan Brookfield *
> General Manager
>
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>
>
>
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>
>
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>
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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Joseph Goldman]

Whilst usually I agree with just load it up and drive it, this 
particular trip is more like 1500km each way, so it will cost 4 full 
days in travel return trip to do so.


I do love a good road trip though :D thoughts @Rhys? :P

-- Original Message --
From: "Darren Moss" 
To: "Jennifer Sims" ; "Nathan Brookfield" 


Cc: "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" 
Sent: 8/12/2023 8:27:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance


Seasons’ Greetings Noggers,



If I have to use airlines to move equipment, I check it in as oversized 
baggage. Unfortunately, insurance for accompanied luggage is not great 
(usually non-existent) for the reasons Jennifer has shown.


Make sure equipment is boxed well. I’ve sat on the plane and watched 
baggage handlers throw boxes marked fragile onto the baggage cart.




Carriers we’ve learned to avoid are TNT (damaged equipment), Couriers 
Please (late/failed pickups/late deliveries) and Parcel to Courier 
(damaged equipment).




We’ve had good results with Aramex and Fedex. Look at TransDirect if 
you prefer a broker and multiple options.




In November we had new HP equipment for deployment at SY4.

I had it shipped to my home, tested a basic config, loaded it into my 
car and drove 850klms then unloaded at SY4 where it was installed and 
commissioned.




IMHO, the best way to get equipment safely to the DC is via car.



Regards,





Darren Moss

General Manager

Cloud365 Australia Pty Limited

<https://www.cloud365.com.au/>


darren.m...@cloud365.com.au


+61 1800 888 365 x105


+61 3 9017 2287


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From: AusNOG  On Behalf Of Jennifer 
Sims

Sent: Friday, 8 December 2023 12:38 AM
To: Nathan Brookfield 
Cc:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance



Sadly I did this and ended up in a very bad situation.



I had some gear shipped to me in QLD, and was bringing back to me in 
Vic for the following weekend.




Saw it off at Brisbane all bagged and tagged.



Then in Melbourne, virgin says “we placed it on belt 2, we aren’t going 
responsible for you not picking it up”. Efforts to explain to the 
airline that no I didn’t pick it up, and that it never arrived on the 
belt the same as everything else.




They literally just ignored me and left me high and dry. Police said 
they could not do anything as no indication it was stolen, airport 
refused to check cctv as police didn’t do report, and baggage services 
kept shirking responsibility.




After lots of backward and forward, we just had to give up.



The vendor on the other hand was very understanding and it cost me as 
per our agreement, which was money I didn’t want to burn but sadly, had 
no choice because I needed to keep to my agreement.




Overall, don’t trust the airlines. If you check it, make sure it’s got 
an air tag or something to track it down.




Jen

Sent from my iPhone




On 7 Dec 2023, at 23:14, Nathan Brookfield 
 wrote:


 After many issues over the years with shipping equipment especially 
TNT, if I’m going anyway, I will always take it and check it in on the 
flight, in a lot of cases, it’s cheaper and yes, it might get thrown 
around a little bit, but it doesn’t matter what courier company you 
use it’s going to be a lot safer….




Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 1300 592 330  |  m: 0412 266 008 | w: https://Iperium.com.au 
<https://Iperium.com.au>





Level 4, Suite 2, 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2000


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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Darren Moss]

Seasons’ Greetings Noggers,

If I have to use airlines to move equipment, I check it in as oversized 
baggage. Unfortunately, insurance for accompanied luggage is not great (usually 
non-existent) for the reasons Jennifer has shown.
Make sure equipment is boxed well. I’ve sat on the plane and watched baggage 
handlers throw boxes marked fragile onto the baggage cart.

Carriers we’ve learned to avoid are TNT (damaged equipment), Couriers Please 
(late/failed pickups/late deliveries) and Parcel to Courier (damaged equipment).

We’ve had good results with Aramex and Fedex. Look at TransDirect if you prefer 
a broker and multiple options.

In November we had new HP equipment for deployment at SY4.
I had it shipped to my home, tested a basic config, loaded it into my car and 
drove 850klms then unloaded at SY4 where it was installed and commissioned.

IMHO, the best way to get equipment safely to the DC is via car.

Regards,


Darren Moss
General Manager
Cloud365 Australia Pty Limited

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From: AusNOG  On Behalf Of Jennifer Sims
Sent: Friday, 8 December 2023 12:38 AM
To: Nathan Brookfield 
Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

Sadly I did this and ended up in a very bad situation.

I had some gear shipped to me in QLD, and was bringing back to me in Vic for 
the following weekend.

Saw it off at Brisbane all bagged and tagged.

Then in Melbourne, virgin says “we placed it on belt 2, we aren’t going 
responsible for you not picking it up”. Efforts to explain to the airline that 
no I didn’t pick it up, and that it never arrived on the belt the same as 
everything else.

They literally just ignored me and left me high and dry. Police said they could 
not do anything as no indication it was stolen, airport refused to check cctv 
as police didn’t do report, and baggage services kept shirking responsibility.

After lots of backward and forward, we just had to give up.

The vendor on the other hand was very understanding and it cost me as per our 
agreement, which was money I didn’t want to burn but sadly, had no choice 
because I needed to keep to my agreement.

Overall, don’t trust the airlines. If you check it, make sure it’s got an air 
tag or something to track it down.

Jen
Sent from my iPhone


On 7 Dec 2023, at 23:14, Nathan Brookfield 
mailto:nathan.brookfi...@iperium.com.au>> 
wrote:
 After many issues over the years with shipping equipment especially TNT, if 
I’m going anyway, I will always take it and check it in on the flight, in a lot 
of cases, it’s cheaper and yes, it might get thrown around a little bit, but it 
doesn’t matter what courier company you use it’s going to be a lot safer….

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 1300 592 330  |  m: 0412 266 008 | w: https://Iperium.com.au


Level 4, Suite 2, 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2000

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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Jennifer Sims]

Sadly I did this and ended up in a very bad situation.I had some gear shipped to me in QLD, and was bringing back to me in Vic for the following weekend.Saw it off at Brisbane all bagged and tagged.Then in Melbourne, virgin says “we placed it on belt 2, we aren’t going responsible for you not picking it up”. Efforts to explain to the airline that no I didn’t pick it up, and that it never arrived on the belt the same as everything else.They literally just ignored me and left me high and dry. Police said they could not do anything as no indication it was stolen, airport refused to check cctv as police didn’t do report, and baggage services kept shirking responsibility.After lots of backward and forward, we just had to give up.The vendor on the other hand was very understanding and it cost me as per our agreement, which was money I didn’t want to burn but sadly, had no choice because I needed to keep to my agreement. Overall, don’t trust the airlines. If you check it, make sure it’s got an air tag or something to track it down.Jen Sent from my iPhoneOn 7 Dec 2023, at 23:14, Nathan Brookfield  wrote:




After many issues over the years with shipping equipment especially TNT, if I’m going anyway, I will always take it and check it in on the flight, in a lot of cases, it’s cheaper and yes, it might get thrown around a little bit, but it doesn’t matter what courier
 company you use it’s going to be a lot safer….






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Level 4, Suite 2, 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2000

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On 7 Dec 2023, at 22:01, Rhys Hanrahan  wrote:







Hi All,
 
Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 2) They max
 out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work around that with multiple separate shipments.
 
We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking for
 safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone is aware of good options for this sort of situation?
 
We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any better. Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want to configure and
 test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in this case.
 
Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!
 

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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Nathan Brookfield]

After many issues over the years with shipping equipment especially TNT, if I’m 
going anyway, I will always take it and check it in on the flight, in a lot of 
cases, it’s cheaper and yes, it might get thrown around a little bit, but it 
doesn’t matter what courier company you use it’s going to be a lot safer….

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

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Level 4, Suite 2, 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2000

Your Connectivity Team



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On 7 Dec 2023, at 22:01, Rhys Hanrahan  wrote:


Hi All,

Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for 
domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s 
transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 
2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work 
around that with multiple separate shipments.

We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our 
offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. 
I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking 
for safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone is aware of 
good options for this sort of situation?

We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes 
in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any better. 
Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want to 
configure and test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in this 
case.

Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!

Rhys Hanrahan | General Manager / CTO
m: 0414 83 83 43 | e: r...@nexusone.com.au
“Ask us about how our Channel Partnership and Referral Program can earn you 
passive income”



   



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Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Derek]

We use these guys for secure door to door service.
https://www.caspl.com.au/

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From: AusNOG  on behalf of Rhys Hanrahan 

Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 3:25:53 PM
To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net 
Subject: [AusNOG] Courier insurance


Hi All,



Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for 
domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s 
transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 
2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work 
around that with multiple separate shipments.



We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our 
offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. 
I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking 
for safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone is aware of 
good options for this sort of situation?



We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes 
in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any better. 
Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want to 
configure and test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in this 
case.



Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!



Rhys Hanrahan | General Manager / CTO
m: 0414 83 83 43 | e: r...@nexusone.com.au<mailto:r...@nexusone.com.au>

“Ask us about how our Channel Partnership and Referral Program can earn you 
passive income”

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[AusNOG] Courier insurance

[Rhys Hanrahan]

Hi All,

Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for 
domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s 
transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 
2) They max out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work 
around that with multiple separate shipments.

We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our 
offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. 
I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking 
for safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone is aware of 
good options for this sort of situation?

We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes 
in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any better. 
Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want to 
configure and test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in this 
case.

Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!

Rhys Hanrahan | General Manager / CTO
m: 0414 83 83 43 | e: r...@nexusone.com.au
“Ask us about how our Channel Partnership and Referral Program can earn you 
passive income”

[www.nexusone.com.au]   [signature_1237010360] 


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www.fusiontech.com.au

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