Re: External storage devices not showing up in filemanagers

2012-03-08 Thread Michael

On 03/07/2012 06:13 PM, Satoshi Hayazaki wrote:



On 7 March 2012 13:20, Paweł Rumian gork...@gmail.com 
mailto:gork...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Satoshi,

Diep Pham Van is probably right, I suppose this may be somewhat
connected with gvfs.

The link below is about Gentoo, but you should be able to adapt it
to Arch
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965.html

I do not have personal everyday experience with such configured system
(I use uam which is a simple automounter), but I have set up my
mother's computer using these instructions, and it works in a way you
expect it. Under LXDE and pcmanfm, every drive that is plugged in just
shows in the manager and you have an option to mount/umount it.

HTH,
Paweł



Wow, that's it! All I needed to do was exec ck-launch-session 
dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session awesome.
Somehow I was under the impression that ck-launch-session was enough 
to launch dbus. Apparently not.


Thanks a lot guys, it's working perfectly and exactly how I want it now.



It's a bug. Please upvote it on their bugtracker so it gets fixed.
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25031


Re: External storage devices not showing up in filemanagers

2012-03-07 Thread Paweł Rumian
Hello Satoshi,

Diep Pham Van is probably right, I suppose this may be somewhat
connected with gvfs.

The link below is about Gentoo, but you should be able to adapt it to Arch
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965.html

I do not have personal everyday experience with such configured system
(I use uam which is a simple automounter), but I have set up my
mother's computer using these instructions, and it works in a way you
expect it. Under LXDE and pcmanfm, every drive that is plugged in just
shows in the manager and you have an option to mount/umount it.

HTH,
Paweł

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Re: External storage devices not showing up in filemanagers

2012-03-07 Thread Satoshi Hayazaki
On 7 March 2012 13:20, Paweł Rumian gork...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Satoshi,

 Diep Pham Van is probably right, I suppose this may be somewhat
 connected with gvfs.

 The link below is about Gentoo, but you should be able to adapt it to Arch
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965.html

 I do not have personal everyday experience with such configured system
 (I use uam which is a simple automounter), but I have set up my
 mother's computer using these instructions, and it works in a way you
 expect it. Under LXDE and pcmanfm, every drive that is plugged in just
 shows in the manager and you have an option to mount/umount it.

 HTH,
 Paweł



Wow, that's it! All I needed to do was exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch
--sh-syntax --exit-with-session awesome.
Somehow I was under the impression that ck-launch-session was enough to
launch dbus. Apparently not.

Thanks a lot guys, it's working perfectly and exactly how I want it now.


Re: External storage devices not showing up in filemanagers

2012-03-06 Thread Diep Pham Van
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 22:34:10 -0300
Satoshi Hayazaki heavennevertouchedearthlyf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, guys, I'm having issues with external storage devices that do
 not show up in filemanagers. I read the wiki page on automounting
 but it seems to be a different thing than what I need. Previously, in
 Xfce, I REALLY disliked automounting, so I would generally just insert
 the pendrive or whatever and it would show up, unmounted, in the
 filemanager's list of storage devices.
 
 When I wanted to access it I would click on it in the file managers
 and only then would the device be actually mounted.
 
 I find that in awesome the filemanager is oblivious to any changes to
 connected storage.
 
 I do not want automounting per se, I just want connected devices to
 show up, available to be mounted when I so wish, in filemanagers.
 
 I'm using Archlinux, awesome 3.4.11, and launching it via startx. The
 exact line in my .xinitrc is: exec ck-launch-session awesome.
 The filemanagers I'm using are thunar and nautilus, both working as
 expected in xfce. My previous gentoo-powered awesome installation
 also had that behavior, so I'm sure it's not something xfce-specific.
 
 
 Any help or tips appreciated.

You miss gvfs?

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Re: External storage devices not showing up in filemanagers

2012-03-06 Thread Tomás Solar Castro

On 06/03/12 22:34, Satoshi Hayazaki wrote:

Hey, guys, I'm having issues with external storage devices that do not
show up in filemanagers. I read the wiki page on automounting
but it seems to be a different thing than what I need. Previously, in
Xfce, I REALLY disliked automounting, so I would generally just insert
the pendrive or whatever and it would show up, unmounted, in the
filemanager's list of storage devices.

When I wanted to access it I would click on it in the file managers and
only then would the device be actually mounted.

I find that in awesome the filemanager is oblivious to any changes to
connected storage.

I do not want automounting per se, I just want connected devices to show
up, available to be mounted when I so wish, in filemanagers.

I'm using Archlinux, awesome 3.4.11, and launching it via startx. The
exact line in my .xinitrc is: exec ck-launch-session awesome.
The filemanagers I'm using are thunar and nautilus, both working as
expected in xfce. My previous gentoo-powered awesome installation
also had that behavior, so I'm sure it's not something xfce-specific.


Any help or tips appreciated.


I use udisks-glue. That's enough for automounting external disks.
just execute udisks-glue  in a terminal...

Maybe there are some missing udev or group permissions...


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Re: External storage devices not showing up in filemanagers

2012-03-06 Thread Satoshi Hayazaki
On 6 March 2012 14:53, Diep Pham Van i...@favadi.com wrote:

 On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 22:34:10 -0300
 Satoshi Hayazaki heavennevertouchedearthlyf...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hey, guys, I'm having issues with external storage devices that do
  not show up in filemanagers. I read the wiki page on automounting
  but it seems to be a different thing than what I need. Previously, in
  Xfce, I REALLY disliked automounting, so I would generally just insert
  the pendrive or whatever and it would show up, unmounted, in the
  filemanager's list of storage devices.
 
  When I wanted to access it I would click on it in the file managers
  and only then would the device be actually mounted.
 
  I find that in awesome the filemanager is oblivious to any changes to
  connected storage.
 
  I do not want automounting per se, I just want connected devices to
  show up, available to be mounted when I so wish, in filemanagers.
 
  I'm using Archlinux, awesome 3.4.11, and launching it via startx. The
  exact line in my .xinitrc is: exec ck-launch-session awesome.
  The filemanagers I'm using are thunar and nautilus, both working as
  expected in xfce. My previous gentoo-powered awesome installation
  also had that behavior, so I'm sure it's not something xfce-specific.
 
 
  Any help or tips appreciated.

 You miss gvfs?


I did not have it installed. I installed it and was not sure I needed to do
anything? I just rebooted and still got the same behavior.


Re: External storage devices not showing up in filemanagers

2012-03-06 Thread Satoshi Hayazaki
2012/3/6 Tomás Solar Castro tso...@lavabit.com

 On 06/03/12 22:34, Satoshi Hayazaki wrote:

 Hey, guys, I'm having issues with external storage devices that do not
 show up in filemanagers. I read the wiki page on automounting
 but it seems to be a different thing than what I need. Previously, in
 Xfce, I REALLY disliked automounting, so I would generally just insert
 the pendrive or whatever and it would show up, unmounted, in the
 filemanager's list of storage devices.

 When I wanted to access it I would click on it in the file managers and
 only then would the device be actually mounted.

 I find that in awesome the filemanager is oblivious to any changes to
 connected storage.

 I do not want automounting per se, I just want connected devices to show
 up, available to be mounted when I so wish, in filemanagers.

 I'm using Archlinux, awesome 3.4.11, and launching it via startx. The
 exact line in my .xinitrc is: exec ck-launch-session awesome.
 The filemanagers I'm using are thunar and nautilus, both working as
 expected in xfce. My previous gentoo-powered awesome installation
 also had that behavior, so I'm sure it's not something xfce-specific.


 Any help or tips appreciated.


 I use udisks-glue. That's enough for automounting external disks.
 just execute udisks-glue  in a terminal...

 Maybe there are some missing udev or group permissions...


I would like to avoid automounting since some of my frequent tasks involve
partitioning and formatting external storage devices,
so automounting would add another step (unmounting) to that process. I will
try my hand at udisks-glue, however, since as it stands
I have absolutely no access to external storage at all via the filemanager.


Re: External storage devices not showing up in filemanagers

2012-03-06 Thread Tomás Solar Castro

On 06/03/12 23:16, Satoshi Hayazaki wrote:



2012/3/6 Tomás Solar Castro tso...@lavabit.com mailto:tso...@lavabit.com

On 06/03/12 22:34, Satoshi Hayazaki wrote:

Hey, guys, I'm having issues with external storage devices that
do not
show up in filemanagers. I read the wiki page on automounting
but it seems to be a different thing than what I need.
Previously, in
Xfce, I REALLY disliked automounting, so I would generally just
insert
the pendrive or whatever and it would show up, unmounted, in the
filemanager's list of storage devices.

When I wanted to access it I would click on it in the file
managers and
only then would the device be actually mounted.

I find that in awesome the filemanager is oblivious to any
changes to
connected storage.

I do not want automounting per se, I just want connected devices
to show
up, available to be mounted when I so wish, in filemanagers.

I'm using Archlinux, awesome 3.4.11, and launching it via
startx. The
exact line in my .xinitrc is: exec ck-launch-session awesome.
The filemanagers I'm using are thunar and nautilus, both working as
expected in xfce. My previous gentoo-powered awesome installation
also had that behavior, so I'm sure it's not something
xfce-specific.


Any help or tips appreciated.


I use udisks-glue. That's enough for automounting external disks.
just execute udisks-glue  in a terminal...

Maybe there are some missing udev or group permissions...


I would like to avoid automounting since some of my frequent tasks
involve partitioning and formatting external storage devices,
so automounting would add another step (unmounting) to that process. I
will try my hand at udisks-glue, however, since as it stands
I have absolutely no access to external storage at all via the filemanager.


udisks-glue gives me access to external storage from mc, thunar, 
pcmanfm, nautilus... hope it works for you :)



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Re: External storage devices not showing up in filemanagers

2012-03-06 Thread Satoshi Hayazaki
2012/3/6 Tomás Solar Castro tso...@lavabit.com

 On 06/03/12 23:16, Satoshi Hayazaki wrote:



 2012/3/6 Tomás Solar Castro tso...@lavabit.com mailto:
 tso...@lavabit.com


On 06/03/12 22:34, Satoshi Hayazaki wrote:

Hey, guys, I'm having issues with external storage devices that
do not
show up in filemanagers. I read the wiki page on automounting
but it seems to be a different thing than what I need.
Previously, in
Xfce, I REALLY disliked automounting, so I would generally just
insert
the pendrive or whatever and it would show up, unmounted, in the
filemanager's list of storage devices.

When I wanted to access it I would click on it in the file
managers and
only then would the device be actually mounted.

I find that in awesome the filemanager is oblivious to any
changes to
connected storage.

I do not want automounting per se, I just want connected devices
to show
up, available to be mounted when I so wish, in filemanagers.

I'm using Archlinux, awesome 3.4.11, and launching it via
startx. The
exact line in my .xinitrc is: exec ck-launch-session awesome.
The filemanagers I'm using are thunar and nautilus, both working as
expected in xfce. My previous gentoo-powered awesome installation
also had that behavior, so I'm sure it's not something
xfce-specific.


Any help or tips appreciated.


I use udisks-glue. That's enough for automounting external disks.
just execute udisks-glue  in a terminal...

Maybe there are some missing udev or group permissions...


 I would like to avoid automounting since some of my frequent tasks
 involve partitioning and formatting external storage devices,
 so automounting would add another step (unmounting) to that process. I
 will try my hand at udisks-glue, however, since as it stands
 I have absolutely no access to external storage at all via the
 filemanager.


 udisks-glue gives me access to external storage from mc, thunar, pcmanfm,
 nautilus... hope it works for you :)


I tried udiskie and some udev rules as was recommend elsewhere. Besides the
fact that I don't actually want automounting, they also had issues such as
not allowing me to unmount via the filemanager, not automatically showing
up in the filemanager (I have to close and open it again for it to show up
as mounted), and not disappearing in the filemanager when unmounted.
I have a feeling udisks-glue will work similarly to those two. They are
mounting those devices but they are not really making the filemanager SEE
that there are new devices inserted or removed. Probably just running
mount automatically in the background, which is fine for the moment for
me to at least have access to those devices, but not really an elegant
solution for my use case.