Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2008-01-23 Thread samir shaikh
Paul,

Vacation took me away for 3 weeks. I'm back now for
SOAP over SIP..

I think it will be a leg up for axis2 to have support
for the SIP transport independently. SIP messaging is
very close to WS-Eventing in which a SIP INVITE can
yield several messages going back to the client. 

Its all messaging really ;) but we should decide what
approach we should take. Do you want to move to
axis-dev?

Samir


--- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Samir
> 
> One more thing we should look at. It seems like the
> HTTP code we use
> for non-blocking (HTTPCore) already also has some
> limited support for
> SIP!
> 
> This would mean we would have to code directly to
> that API (i.e. we
> wouldn't use the SIP Servlet model). However, this
> seems to me to have
> two key benefits.
> 
> 1) We could probably start from the NHTTP transport
> and therefore
> re-use a lot of code
> 2) We'd end up with a non-blocking SIP transport
> which is a "good
> thing" (more efficient)
> 
> Also the folks over at HTTPCore are incredibly
> helpful.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2007 4:58 AM, Demetris G
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Likewise Paul - thanks for the pointer.
> >
> >
> > Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > > Good point!
> > >
> > > SIP is basically the standard for doing Voice
> Over Internet Protocol
> > > (VOIP) that is used by systems like Vonage,
> Asterisk, etc to provide
> > > phoning on the internet.
> > >
> > > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On Dec 22, 2007 8:29 AM, Demetris G
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Echoing Paul's "I didn't know anything about
> coding SIP in Java" and further
> > >> seeing these terms flying around this list for
> a long time now, wouldn't
> > >> be so
> > >> much nicer for the rest of us who are willing
> to learn, for whoever is
> > >> asking
> > >> a Q out of the list to also spend 3.5 secs to
> write down a definition of the
> > >> term they are requesting help with? I hear
> POJO, MOJO, GOJO, blah blah
> > >> and MTOM and this and that and now SIP ... oh
> sure, everything is just
> > >> a google away but putting it in the context of
> the list educates all of
> > >> us. Just
> > >> a friendly suggestion ...
> > >>
> > >> SIP - away my friends ...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Samir
> > >>>
> > >>> Ok so I didn't know anything about coding SIP
> in Java :)
> > >>>
> > >>> Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the
> SIPServlet spec
> > >>> (assuming that it has a valid license), and we
> also need a client SIP
> > >>> stack too.
> > >>>
> > >>> It seems like this is what we need:
> https://jain-sip.dev.java.net/ tho
> > >>> I can't find out what license that is under.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also I found an interesting alternative to the
> SIP Servlet which is the JIPlet:
> > >>>
> http://www.cafesip.org/projects/jiplet/index.html
> > >>>
> > >>> However, I'm not sure its really worth using
> JIPlet over the SIP
> > >>> servlet. What are your thoughts?
> > >>>
> > >>> Paul
> > >>>
> > >>> PS. In HTTP the equivalent is the servlet plus
> the Commons HTTPClient.
> > >>> However, the newer non-blocking HTTP is based
> on an Apache library
> > >>> called HTTPCore which provides a non-blocking
> IO version of HTTP.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Dec 22, 2007 1:08 AM, samir shaikh
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  Paul,
> > 
> >  What do you mean by base SIP function? Do you
> mean we
> >  need some reference implementation of the
> sipservlet
> >  specification? can you tell me what it is for
> http so
> >  then i can understand what we are looking for
> here.
> > 
> > 
> >  Samir
> > 
> >  --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Samir
> > >
> > > The usual first step is to identify a
> library that
> > > can be used to
> > > provide the base SIP function. Also the
> library
> > > needs to be compatible
> > > with Apache Licensing - i.e. it must be Open
> Source
> > > and also not GPL
> > > (but LPGL is ok). Obviously if we can find
> one under
> > > the Apache or BSD
> > > license that is best.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM, samir shaikh
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Paul,
> > >>
> > >> I'll be happy to team up with you on this.
> If you
> > >> could lay out for me what is involved that
> will be
> > >> great. We could have something based off of
> the
> > >> sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can
> also
> > >> research the existing transports as part of
> > >>
> > >>
> > > synapse.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Samir
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Samir
> > >>>
> > >>> We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in
> > >>>

Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-23 Thread Martin Gainty
Good Morning Michele-

I was able to create ClickToDial.war but as soon as I execute SIPFactory I
see exceptions
http://fisheye5.cenqua.com/browse/sailfin/ssa-api/src/java/javax/servlet/sip
/SipFactory.java is down for maintenance
Any idea where to acquire the source?

Thanks!
Martin--
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Subject: Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP


>
> On 22 Dec 2007, at 07:53, Paul Fremantle wrote:
>
> > Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the SIPServlet spec
> > (assuming that it has a valid license), and we also need a client SIP
> > stack too.
>
> You may want to have a look to this
> https://sailfin.dev.java.net/
>
>
> Michele
>
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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
Samir

One more thing we should look at. It seems like the HTTP code we use
for non-blocking (HTTPCore) already also has some limited support for
SIP!

This would mean we would have to code directly to that API (i.e. we
wouldn't use the SIP Servlet model). However, this seems to me to have
two key benefits.

1) We could probably start from the NHTTP transport and therefore
re-use a lot of code
2) We'd end up with a non-blocking SIP transport which is a "good
thing" (more efficient)

Also the folks over at HTTPCore are incredibly helpful.

Paul


On Dec 23, 2007 4:58 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Likewise Paul - thanks for the pointer.
>
>
> Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > Good point!
> >
> > SIP is basically the standard for doing Voice Over Internet Protocol
> > (VOIP) that is used by systems like Vonage, Asterisk, etc to provide
> > phoning on the internet.
> >
> > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Dec 22, 2007 8:29 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Echoing Paul's "I didn't know anything about coding SIP in Java" and 
> >> further
> >> seeing these terms flying around this list for a long time now, wouldn't
> >> be so
> >> much nicer for the rest of us who are willing to learn, for whoever is
> >> asking
> >> a Q out of the list to also spend 3.5 secs to write down a definition of 
> >> the
> >> term they are requesting help with? I hear POJO, MOJO, GOJO, blah blah
> >> and MTOM and this and that and now SIP ... oh sure, everything is just
> >> a google away but putting it in the context of the list educates all of
> >> us. Just
> >> a friendly suggestion ...
> >>
> >> SIP - away my friends ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul Fremantle wrote:
> >>
> >>> Samir
> >>>
> >>> Ok so I didn't know anything about coding SIP in Java :)
> >>>
> >>> Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the SIPServlet spec
> >>> (assuming that it has a valid license), and we also need a client SIP
> >>> stack too.
> >>>
> >>> It seems like this is what we need: https://jain-sip.dev.java.net/ tho
> >>> I can't find out what license that is under.
> >>>
> >>> Also I found an interesting alternative to the SIP Servlet which is the 
> >>> JIPlet:
> >>> http://www.cafesip.org/projects/jiplet/index.html
> >>>
> >>> However, I'm not sure its really worth using JIPlet over the SIP
> >>> servlet. What are your thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> PS. In HTTP the equivalent is the servlet plus the Commons HTTPClient.
> >>> However, the newer non-blocking HTTP is based on an Apache library
> >>> called HTTPCore which provides a non-blocking IO version of HTTP.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 22, 2007 1:08 AM, samir shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  Paul,
> 
>  What do you mean by base SIP function? Do you mean we
>  need some reference implementation of the sipservlet
>  specification? can you tell me what it is for http so
>  then i can understand what we are looking for here.
> 
> 
>  Samir
> 
>  --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Samir
> >
> > The usual first step is to identify a library that
> > can be used to
> > provide the base SIP function. Also the library
> > needs to be compatible
> > with Apache Licensing - i.e. it must be Open Source
> > and also not GPL
> > (but LPGL is ok). Obviously if we can find one under
> > the Apache or BSD
> > license that is best.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM, samir shaikh
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> I'll be happy to team up with you on this. If you
> >> could lay out for me what is involved that will be
> >> great. We could have something based off of the
> >> sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can also
> >> research the existing transports as part of
> >>
> >>
> > synapse.
> >
> >
> >> Samir
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Samir
> >>>
> >>> We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in
> >>>
> >>>
> > Axis2.
> >
> >
> >>> However, if you
> >>> would be willing to help write one we would be
> >>>
> >>>
> > very
> >
> >
> >>> happy to help.
> >>> From my knowledge of SIP it would make a good
> >>> transport and has some
> >>> benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how Axis2
> >>> transports are
> >>> written, you might actually start here:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/synapse/trunk/java/modules/transports/src/main/java
> 
> 
> >>> We have written a few new transports for Axis2
> >>>
> >>>
> > under
> >
> >
> >>> the Synapse
> >>> project and there are some base classes to help
> >>>
> >>>
> > you.
> 

Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-22 Thread Demetris G


Likewise Paul - thanks for the pointer.

Paul Fremantle wrote:

Good point!

SIP is basically the standard for doing Voice Over Internet Protocol
(VOIP) that is used by systems like Vonage, Asterisk, etc to provide
phoning on the internet.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!

Paul

On Dec 22, 2007 8:29 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Echoing Paul's "I didn't know anything about coding SIP in Java" and further
seeing these terms flying around this list for a long time now, wouldn't
be so
much nicer for the rest of us who are willing to learn, for whoever is
asking
a Q out of the list to also spend 3.5 secs to write down a definition of the
term they are requesting help with? I hear POJO, MOJO, GOJO, blah blah
and MTOM and this and that and now SIP ... oh sure, everything is just
a google away but putting it in the context of the list educates all of
us. Just
a friendly suggestion ...

SIP - away my friends ...



Paul Fremantle wrote:


Samir

Ok so I didn't know anything about coding SIP in Java :)

Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the SIPServlet spec
(assuming that it has a valid license), and we also need a client SIP
stack too.

It seems like this is what we need: https://jain-sip.dev.java.net/ tho
I can't find out what license that is under.

Also I found an interesting alternative to the SIP Servlet which is the JIPlet:
http://www.cafesip.org/projects/jiplet/index.html

However, I'm not sure its really worth using JIPlet over the SIP
servlet. What are your thoughts?

Paul

PS. In HTTP the equivalent is the servlet plus the Commons HTTPClient.
However, the newer non-blocking HTTP is based on an Apache library
called HTTPCore which provides a non-blocking IO version of HTTP.



On Dec 22, 2007 1:08 AM, samir shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Paul,

What do you mean by base SIP function? Do you mean we
need some reference implementation of the sipservlet
specification? can you tell me what it is for http so
then i can understand what we are looking for here.


Samir

--- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Samir

The usual first step is to identify a library that
can be used to
provide the base SIP function. Also the library
needs to be compatible
with Apache Licensing - i.e. it must be Open Source
and also not GPL
(but LPGL is ok). Obviously if we can find one under
the Apache or BSD
license that is best.

Paul

On Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM, samir shaikh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Paul,

I'll be happy to team up with you on this. If you
could lay out for me what is involved that will be
great. We could have something based off of the
sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can also
research the existing transports as part of



synapse.

  

Samir



--- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Samir

We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in

  

Axis2.

  

However, if you
would be willing to help write one we would be

  

very

  

happy to help.
From my knowledge of SIP it would make a good
transport and has some
benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how Axis2
transports are
written, you might actually start here:



  

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/synapse/trunk/java/modules/transports/src/main/java



We have written a few new transports for Axis2

  

under

  

the Synapse
project and there are some base classes to help

  

you.

  

Of course there are also the core Axis2

  

transports:

  

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/java/modules/kernel/src/org/apache/axis2/transport



If you want to collaborate I will certainly

  

help.

  

Paul

On Dec 19, 2007 11:22 PM, samir shaikh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Hi,

I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport



layer

  

for my

  

Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can



find

  

examples of that and if that is possible to



do.

  

Thank you.!

Samir










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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-22 Thread Paul Fremantle
Thanks for the hint. Its an interesting project, but I can't see any
instructions for using it without Glassfish. I guess for Axis2 we need
something more embeddable.

Paul

On Dec 22, 2007 1:16 PM, Michele Mazzucco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 22 Dec 2007, at 07:53, Paul Fremantle wrote:
>
> > Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the SIPServlet spec
> > (assuming that it has a valid license), and we also need a client SIP
> > stack too.
>
> You may want to have a look to this
> https://sailfin.dev.java.net/
>
>
> Michele
>
>
>
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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-22 Thread Michele Mazzucco


On 22 Dec 2007, at 07:53, Paul Fremantle wrote:


Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the SIPServlet spec
(assuming that it has a valid license), and we also need a client SIP
stack too.


You may want to have a look to this
https://sailfin.dev.java.net/


Michele


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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-22 Thread Paul Fremantle
Good point!

SIP is basically the standard for doing Voice Over Internet Protocol
(VOIP) that is used by systems like Vonage, Asterisk, etc to provide
phoning on the internet.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!

Paul

On Dec 22, 2007 8:29 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Echoing Paul's "I didn't know anything about coding SIP in Java" and further
> seeing these terms flying around this list for a long time now, wouldn't
> be so
> much nicer for the rest of us who are willing to learn, for whoever is
> asking
> a Q out of the list to also spend 3.5 secs to write down a definition of the
> term they are requesting help with? I hear POJO, MOJO, GOJO, blah blah
> and MTOM and this and that and now SIP ... oh sure, everything is just
> a google away but putting it in the context of the list educates all of
> us. Just
> a friendly suggestion ...
>
> SIP - away my friends ...
>
>
>
> Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > Samir
> >
> > Ok so I didn't know anything about coding SIP in Java :)
> >
> > Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the SIPServlet spec
> > (assuming that it has a valid license), and we also need a client SIP
> > stack too.
> >
> > It seems like this is what we need: https://jain-sip.dev.java.net/ tho
> > I can't find out what license that is under.
> >
> > Also I found an interesting alternative to the SIP Servlet which is the 
> > JIPlet:
> > http://www.cafesip.org/projects/jiplet/index.html
> >
> > However, I'm not sure its really worth using JIPlet over the SIP
> > servlet. What are your thoughts?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > PS. In HTTP the equivalent is the servlet plus the Commons HTTPClient.
> > However, the newer non-blocking HTTP is based on an Apache library
> > called HTTPCore which provides a non-blocking IO version of HTTP.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 22, 2007 1:08 AM, samir shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> What do you mean by base SIP function? Do you mean we
> >> need some reference implementation of the sipservlet
> >> specification? can you tell me what it is for http so
> >> then i can understand what we are looking for here.
> >>
> >>
> >> Samir
> >>
> >> --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Samir
> >>>
> >>> The usual first step is to identify a library that
> >>> can be used to
> >>> provide the base SIP function. Also the library
> >>> needs to be compatible
> >>> with Apache Licensing - i.e. it must be Open Source
> >>> and also not GPL
> >>> (but LPGL is ok). Obviously if we can find one under
> >>> the Apache or BSD
> >>> license that is best.
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM, samir shaikh
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
>  Paul,
> 
>  I'll be happy to team up with you on this. If you
>  could lay out for me what is involved that will be
>  great. We could have something based off of the
>  sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can also
>  research the existing transports as part of
> 
> >>> synapse.
> >>>
>  Samir
> 
> 
> 
>  --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Samir
> >
> > We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in
> >
> >>> Axis2.
> >>>
> > However, if you
> > would be willing to help write one we would be
> >
> >>> very
> >>>
> > happy to help.
> > From my knowledge of SIP it would make a good
> > transport and has some
> > benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how Axis2
> > transports are
> > written, you might actually start here:
> >
> >
> >
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/synapse/trunk/java/modules/transports/src/main/java
> >>
> > We have written a few new transports for Axis2
> >
> >>> under
> >>>
> > the Synapse
> > project and there are some base classes to help
> >
> >>> you.
> >>>
> > Of course there are also the core Axis2
> >
> >>> transports:
> >>>
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/java/modules/kernel/src/org/apache/axis2/transport
> >>
> > If you want to collaborate I will certainly
> >
> >>> help.
> >>>
> > Paul
> >
> > On Dec 19, 2007 11:22 PM, samir shaikh
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport
> >>
> >>> layer
> >>>
> > for my
> >
> >> Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can
> >>
> >>> find
> >>>
> >> examples of that and if that is possible to
> >>
> >>> do.
> >>>
> >> Thank you.!
> >>
> >> Samir
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Be a better friend, newshound, and
> >> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> To unsu

Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-22 Thread Demetris G


Echoing Paul's "I didn't know anything about coding SIP in Java" and further
seeing these terms flying around this list for a long time now, wouldn't 
be so
much nicer for the rest of us who are willing to learn, for whoever is 
asking

a Q out of the list to also spend 3.5 secs to write down a definition of the
term they are requesting help with? I hear POJO, MOJO, GOJO, blah blah
and MTOM and this and that and now SIP ... oh sure, everything is just
a google away but putting it in the context of the list educates all of 
us. Just

a friendly suggestion ...

SIP - away my friends ...


Paul Fremantle wrote:

Samir

Ok so I didn't know anything about coding SIP in Java :)

Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the SIPServlet spec
(assuming that it has a valid license), and we also need a client SIP
stack too.

It seems like this is what we need: https://jain-sip.dev.java.net/ tho
I can't find out what license that is under.

Also I found an interesting alternative to the SIP Servlet which is the JIPlet:
http://www.cafesip.org/projects/jiplet/index.html

However, I'm not sure its really worth using JIPlet over the SIP
servlet. What are your thoughts?

Paul

PS. In HTTP the equivalent is the servlet plus the Commons HTTPClient.
However, the newer non-blocking HTTP is based on an Apache library
called HTTPCore which provides a non-blocking IO version of HTTP.



On Dec 22, 2007 1:08 AM, samir shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Paul,

What do you mean by base SIP function? Do you mean we
need some reference implementation of the sipservlet
specification? can you tell me what it is for http so
then i can understand what we are looking for here.


Samir

--- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Samir

The usual first step is to identify a library that
can be used to
provide the base SIP function. Also the library
needs to be compatible
with Apache Licensing - i.e. it must be Open Source
and also not GPL
(but LPGL is ok). Obviously if we can find one under
the Apache or BSD
license that is best.

Paul

On Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM, samir shaikh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Paul,

I'll be happy to team up with you on this. If you
could lay out for me what is involved that will be
great. We could have something based off of the
sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can also
research the existing transports as part of


synapse.
  

Samir



--- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Samir

We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in
  

Axis2.
  

However, if you
would be willing to help write one we would be
  

very
  

happy to help.
From my knowledge of SIP it would make a good
transport and has some
benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how Axis2
transports are
written, you might actually start here:


  

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/synapse/trunk/java/modules/transports/src/main/java


We have written a few new transports for Axis2
  

under
  

the Synapse
project and there are some base classes to help
  

you.
  

Of course there are also the core Axis2
  

transports:
  

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/java/modules/kernel/src/org/apache/axis2/transport


If you want to collaborate I will certainly
  

help.
  

Paul

On Dec 19, 2007 11:22 PM, samir shaikh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hi,

I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport


layer
  

for my
  

Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can


find
  

examples of that and if that is possible to


do.
  

Thank you.!

Samir








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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-21 Thread Paul Fremantle
Samir

Ok so I didn't know anything about coding SIP in Java :)

Basically, yes we need a reference impl of the SIPServlet spec
(assuming that it has a valid license), and we also need a client SIP
stack too.

It seems like this is what we need: https://jain-sip.dev.java.net/ tho
I can't find out what license that is under.

Also I found an interesting alternative to the SIP Servlet which is the JIPlet:
http://www.cafesip.org/projects/jiplet/index.html

However, I'm not sure its really worth using JIPlet over the SIP
servlet. What are your thoughts?

Paul

PS. In HTTP the equivalent is the servlet plus the Commons HTTPClient.
However, the newer non-blocking HTTP is based on an Apache library
called HTTPCore which provides a non-blocking IO version of HTTP.



On Dec 22, 2007 1:08 AM, samir shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> What do you mean by base SIP function? Do you mean we
> need some reference implementation of the sipservlet
> specification? can you tell me what it is for http so
> then i can understand what we are looking for here.
>
>
> Samir
>
> --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Samir
> >
> > The usual first step is to identify a library that
> > can be used to
> > provide the base SIP function. Also the library
> > needs to be compatible
> > with Apache Licensing - i.e. it must be Open Source
> > and also not GPL
> > (but LPGL is ok). Obviously if we can find one under
> > the Apache or BSD
> > license that is best.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM, samir shaikh
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Paul,
> > >
> > > I'll be happy to team up with you on this. If you
> > > could lay out for me what is involved that will be
> > > great. We could have something based off of the
> > > sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can also
> > > research the existing transports as part of
> > synapse.
> > >
> > > Samir
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Samir
> > > >
> > > > We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in
> > Axis2.
> > > > However, if you
> > > > would be willing to help write one we would be
> > very
> > > > happy to help.
> > > > From my knowledge of SIP it would make a good
> > > > transport and has some
> > > > benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how Axis2
> > > > transports are
> > > > written, you might actually start here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/synapse/trunk/java/modules/transports/src/main/java
> > > >
> > > > We have written a few new transports for Axis2
> > under
> > > > the Synapse
> > > > project and there are some base classes to help
> > you.
> > > >
> > > > Of course there are also the core Axis2
> > transports:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/java/modules/kernel/src/org/apache/axis2/transport
> > > >
> > > > If you want to collaborate I will certainly
> > help.
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> > > > On Dec 19, 2007 11:22 PM, samir shaikh
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> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport
> > layer
> > > > for my
> > > > > Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can
> > find
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> > do.
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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-21 Thread samir shaikh
Paul,

What do you mean by base SIP function? Do you mean we
need some reference implementation of the sipservlet
specification? can you tell me what it is for http so
then i can understand what we are looking for here.

Samir

--- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Samir
> 
> The usual first step is to identify a library that
> can be used to
> provide the base SIP function. Also the library
> needs to be compatible
> with Apache Licensing - i.e. it must be Open Source
> and also not GPL
> (but LPGL is ok). Obviously if we can find one under
> the Apache or BSD
> license that is best.
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM, samir shaikh
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > I'll be happy to team up with you on this. If you
> > could lay out for me what is involved that will be
> > great. We could have something based off of the
> > sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can also
> > research the existing transports as part of
> synapse.
> >
> > Samir
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Samir
> > >
> > > We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in
> Axis2.
> > > However, if you
> > > would be willing to help write one we would be
> very
> > > happy to help.
> > > From my knowledge of SIP it would make a good
> > > transport and has some
> > > benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how Axis2
> > > transports are
> > > written, you might actually start here:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/synapse/trunk/java/modules/transports/src/main/java
> > >
> > > We have written a few new transports for Axis2
> under
> > > the Synapse
> > > project and there are some base classes to help
> you.
> > >
> > > Of course there are also the core Axis2
> transports:
> > >
> >
>
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/java/modules/kernel/src/org/apache/axis2/transport
> > >
> > > If you want to collaborate I will certainly
> help.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On Dec 19, 2007 11:22 PM, samir shaikh
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> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport
> layer
> > > for my
> > > > Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can
> find
> > > > examples of that and if that is possible to
> do.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.!
> > > >
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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-21 Thread Paul Fremantle
Samir

The usual first step is to identify a library that can be used to
provide the base SIP function. Also the library needs to be compatible
with Apache Licensing - i.e. it must be Open Source and also not GPL
(but LPGL is ok). Obviously if we can find one under the Apache or BSD
license that is best.

Paul

On Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM, samir shaikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I'll be happy to team up with you on this. If you
> could lay out for me what is involved that will be
> great. We could have something based off of the
> sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can also
> research the existing transports as part of synapse.
>
> Samir
>
>
>
> --- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Samir
> >
> > We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in Axis2.
> > However, if you
> > would be willing to help write one we would be very
> > happy to help.
> > From my knowledge of SIP it would make a good
> > transport and has some
> > benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how Axis2
> > transports are
> > written, you might actually start here:
> >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/synapse/trunk/java/modules/transports/src/main/java
> >
> > We have written a few new transports for Axis2 under
> > the Synapse
> > project and there are some base classes to help you.
> >
> > Of course there are also the core Axis2 transports:
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/java/modules/kernel/src/org/apache/axis2/transport
> >
> > If you want to collaborate I will certainly help.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Dec 19, 2007 11:22 PM, samir shaikh
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport layer
> > for my
> > > Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can find
> > > examples of that and if that is possible to do.
> > >
> > > Thank you.!
> > >
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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-20 Thread samir shaikh
Paul,

I'll be happy to team up with you on this. If you
could lay out for me what is involved that will be
great. We could have something based off of the
sipservlet specification. Meanwhile, I can also
research the existing transports as part of synapse.

Samir


--- Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Samir
> 
> We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in Axis2.
> However, if you
> would be willing to help write one we would be very
> happy to help.
> From my knowledge of SIP it would make a good
> transport and has some
> benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how Axis2
> transports are
> written, you might actually start here:
> 
>
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/synapse/trunk/java/modules/transports/src/main/java
> 
> We have written a few new transports for Axis2 under
> the Synapse
> project and there are some base classes to help you.
> 
> Of course there are also the core Axis2 transports:
>
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/java/modules/kernel/src/org/apache/axis2/transport
> 
> If you want to collaborate I will certainly help.
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Dec 19, 2007 11:22 PM, samir shaikh
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport layer
> for my
> > Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can find
> > examples of that and if that is possible to do.
> >
> > Thank you.!
> >
> > Samir
> >
> >
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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-20 Thread Paul Fremantle
Samir

We do not have a SIP transport for SOAP in Axis2. However, if you
would be willing to help write one we would be very happy to help.
>From my knowledge of SIP it would make a good transport and has some
benefits over HTTP. If you want to see how Axis2 transports are
written, you might actually start here:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/synapse/trunk/java/modules/transports/src/main/java

We have written a few new transports for Axis2 under the Synapse
project and there are some base classes to help you.

Of course there are also the core Axis2 transports:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/java/modules/kernel/src/org/apache/axis2/transport

If you want to collaborate I will certainly help.

Paul

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> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport layer for my
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> examples of that and if that is possible to do.
>
> Thank you.!
>
> Samir
>
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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-19 Thread Prince Singh
Hi Martin,

SIP is "Session Initiation Protocol" and not "Serial Interface Protocol"

Google for "SIP"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol

SIP is primarily being used as a signalling protocol for VoIP telephony. Its
very flexible and quiet popular. As per the wiki, it was designed 10yrs
back(1996). :)


On 12/20/07, Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I havent heard the term SIP for over 10 years..I had no idea that anyone
> was
> still using it!
> Its easy to think that a true transport layer is being configured when you
> see something like this
> org.apache.axis2.context.ConfigurationContextFactory
> //To check whether transport level session management is require
> or
> not
> configureTransportSessionManagement(axisConfig);
>
> but this mechanism is for managing 'session management' when client
> *transports* from client to servlet
>
> SIP (Serial Interface Protocol is the actual OSI transport and is
> generally
> handled by the OS driver when TCP/IP stack is loaded..if Im not
> mistaken..)
>
> Anyone???
> Martin--
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "samir shaikh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:22 PM
> Subject: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport layer for my
> > Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can find
> > examples of that and if that is possible to do.
> >
> > Thank you.!
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Re: [Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-19 Thread Martin Gainty
I havent heard the term SIP for over 10 years..I had no idea that anyone was
still using it!
Its easy to think that a true transport layer is being configured when you
see something like this org.apache.axis2.context.ConfigurationContextFactory
//To check whether transport level session management is require or
not
configureTransportSessionManagement(axisConfig);

but this mechanism is for managing 'session management' when client
*transports* from client to servlet

SIP (Serial Interface Protocol is the actual OSI transport and is generally
handled by the OS driver when TCP/IP stack is loaded..if Im not mistaken..)

Anyone???
Martin--

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> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport layer for my
> Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can find
> examples of that and if that is possible to do.
>
> Thank you.!
>
> Samir
>
>
>


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[Axis2] SOAP over SIP

2007-12-19 Thread samir shaikh
Hi,

I'm trying to get SIP to be the transport layer for my
Axis2 server. Does anyone know where I can find
examples of that and if that is possible to do.

Thank you.!

Samir


  

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