Re: Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP

2006-04-08 Thread Dennis Sosnoski
For some background and a summary of what's going on you can see my 
article "The year ahead in Java Web services" on devWorks: 
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-java1.html I'm 
noticeably behind on the follow-up, which is to cover some of the Axis2 
details - but now that Axis2 is approaching 1.0 release status I should 
be able to get the follow-up finished soon.


 - Dennis

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SOA Work wrote:


In very short (my opinion):

JAX-RPC (offered in JWSDP):
- difficult to use (not only the publish process, but you need special 
interfaces extended from java.rmi.Remote)!
+ some IDEs offer support (the only way I would use it)
--> the worst solution in my opinion

axis:
+ easy
+ many tutorials, documentation, user guide
+ the only one supporting rpc/encoded (it is deprecated)
- old and slow (there is no benchmark but many opinions)
- no support for the new cool functions ;-) (no document-centric, no pugable 
databinding...)
--> solid good way. but not the future

JAX-WS (offered in JWSDP):
+ better than JAX-RPC
+ it could be THE STANDARD in future
- difficult to use (better than jax-rpc but not comparable to axis)
--> good way but not as easy as axis

axis2:
+ simple
+ powerful
- i don't like the documentation (a reference for the service.xml would be 
s nice!!!)
--> my suggestion


 


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Gesendet: 06.04.06 23:19:25
An: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Betreff: Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP
   




 


Hi,

as a newbie only a short question: Can anybody please explain the 
difference (pros / contras) between these two projects?


Thanx
Michael
   




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Re: [Axis2] Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP

2006-04-08 Thread Eran Chinthaka
Hi Dominik (= SOA Work),

SOA Work wrote:
> 
> p.s.: maybe a xml schema for the configuration file or a little more 
> comprehensive guide about the configuration would save some time because 
> there wouldn't be such much questions on the list. 
> 

We wrote schemas for configuration files (service.xml and module.xml)
and it can be found here :
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/trunk/java/xdocs/latest/resources/schemas/.

But I could not write one for axis2.xml.



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Re: [Axis2] Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP

2006-04-08 Thread SOA Work


You're welcome ;-)
I think you are all doing a great job. I'm sure there will be enough 
documentation and tutorials in the future (axis is kind of a "standard" for 
java web services).

It was just a rough comparison between the frameworks from my point of view and 
at the very moment. 

dominik

p.s.: maybe a xml schema for the configuration file or a little more 
comprehensive guide about the configuration would save some time because there 
wouldn't be such much questions on the list. 


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> Gesendet: 08.04.06 05:11:00
> An: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [Axis2] Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP


> Thanks for the comparison. Its good that these sort of feedback coming
> from users, rather than we going and publishing these.
> 
> Let me thank for all the people who gave/and giving us feedback and
> help(ed) us in various ways, on behalf of all axis devs.
> 
> But we are not done yet. Please extend your helpful hands more and more
> by giving us your feedback.
> 
> Thank you,
> Chinthaka
> 
> P.S. : We wanna improve our docs. But these days we are concentrated
> more on features and stability than docs. Volunteers are more than
> welcome to improve our docs.
> 
> SOA Work wrote:
> > In very short (my opinion):
> > 
> > JAX-RPC (offered in JWSDP):
> > - difficult to use (not only the publish process, but you need special 
> > interfaces extended from java.rmi.Remote)!
> > + some IDEs offer support (the only way I would use it)
> > --> the worst solution in my opinion
> > 
> > axis:
> > + easy
> > + many tutorials, documentation, user guide
> > + the only one supporting rpc/encoded (it is deprecated)
> > - old and slow (there is no benchmark but many opinions)
> > - no support for the new cool functions ;-) (no document-centric, no 
> > pugable databinding...)
> > --> solid good way. but not the future
> > 
> > JAX-WS (offered in JWSDP):
> > + better than JAX-RPC
> > + it could be THE STANDARD in future
> > - difficult to use (better than jax-rpc but not comparable to axis)
> > --> good way but not as easy as axis
> > 
> > axis2:
> > + simple
> > + powerful
> > - i don't like the documentation (a reference for the service.xml would be 
> > s nice!!!)
> > --> my suggestion
> > 
> > 
> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >> Von: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> >> Gesendet: 06.04.06 23:19:25
> >> An: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> >> Betreff: Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP
> > 
> > 
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> as a newbie only a short question: Can anybody please explain the 
> >> difference (pros / contras) between these two projects?
> >>
> >> Thanx
> >> Michael
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Axis2] Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP

2006-04-07 Thread Eran Chinthaka
Thanks for the comparison. Its good that these sort of feedback coming
from users, rather than we going and publishing these.

Let me thank for all the people who gave/and giving us feedback and
help(ed) us in various ways, on behalf of all axis devs.

But we are not done yet. Please extend your helpful hands more and more
by giving us your feedback.

Thank you,
Chinthaka

P.S. : We wanna improve our docs. But these days we are concentrated
more on features and stability than docs. Volunteers are more than
welcome to improve our docs.

SOA Work wrote:
> In very short (my opinion):
> 
> JAX-RPC (offered in JWSDP):
> - difficult to use (not only the publish process, but you need special 
> interfaces extended from java.rmi.Remote)!
> + some IDEs offer support (the only way I would use it)
> --> the worst solution in my opinion
> 
> axis:
> + easy
> + many tutorials, documentation, user guide
> + the only one supporting rpc/encoded (it is deprecated)
> - old and slow (there is no benchmark but many opinions)
> - no support for the new cool functions ;-) (no document-centric, no pugable 
> databinding...)
> --> solid good way. but not the future
> 
> JAX-WS (offered in JWSDP):
> + better than JAX-RPC
> + it could be THE STANDARD in future
> - difficult to use (better than jax-rpc but not comparable to axis)
> --> good way but not as easy as axis
> 
> axis2:
> + simple
> + powerful
> - i don't like the documentation (a reference for the service.xml would be 
> s nice!!!)
> --> my suggestion
> 
> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: axis-user@ws.apache.org
>> Gesendet: 06.04.06 23:19:25
>> An: axis-user@ws.apache.org
>> Betreff: Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> as a newbie only a short question: Can anybody please explain the 
>> difference (pros / contras) between these two projects?
>>
>> Thanx
>> Michael
> 
> 
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Re: Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP

2006-04-07 Thread SOA Work

In very short (my opinion):

JAX-RPC (offered in JWSDP):
- difficult to use (not only the publish process, but you need special 
interfaces extended from java.rmi.Remote)!
+ some IDEs offer support (the only way I would use it)
--> the worst solution in my opinion

axis:
+ easy
+ many tutorials, documentation, user guide
+ the only one supporting rpc/encoded (it is deprecated)
- old and slow (there is no benchmark but many opinions)
- no support for the new cool functions ;-) (no document-centric, no pugable 
databinding...)
--> solid good way. but not the future

JAX-WS (offered in JWSDP):
+ better than JAX-RPC
+ it could be THE STANDARD in future
- difficult to use (better than jax-rpc but not comparable to axis)
--> good way but not as easy as axis

axis2:
+ simple
+ powerful
- i don't like the documentation (a reference for the service.xml would be 
s nice!!!)
--> my suggestion


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> Gesendet: 06.04.06 23:19:25
> An: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> Betreff: Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP


> Hi,
> 
> as a newbie only a short question: Can anybody please explain the 
> difference (pros / contras) between these two projects?
> 
> Thanx
> Michael


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Comparison Axis vs. JWSDP

2006-04-06 Thread Michael Bauroth

Hi,

as a newbie only a short question: Can anybody please explain the 
difference (pros / contras) between these two projects?


Thanx
Michael