Re: Semantics

[keith chapman]

The admin services deployed on WSAS  [1] does
not do what you want at the moment. But you can use the same concept to
write a service that does this. Once you have access to the axis
configuration you basically have all details of services on the server.

Thanks,
Keith.

[1] http://wso2.org/projects/wsas

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Keith,
>
>   one more Q - where are the service semantic descriptions stored on the
> side of the services container?
> I am assuming that is what happens - the query arrives at the server, the
> query service handles/matches the
> request, and sends back the WSDL of the deployed service.
> I know how the OWL-S/UDDI combination works so I am wondering if this is a
> similar concept?
>
> Thanks again
>
> keith chapman wrote:
>
>> You could easily write a service (Sort of a admin service) that can be
>> used to query details on services deployed. We do this in WSO2 WSAS (Web
>> Services Application Server). 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Keith.
>>
>> [1] http://wso2.org/projects/wsas
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Or put in a different way - is the only way to ask for a WSDL from
>>an Axis / Axis2
>>engine to use a URL with the web service name appended to it? Is
>>there anyone
>>work or anything done on using semantic matching in Axis itself or
>>should a separate
>>tool be used?
>>
>>Thanks much
>>
>>Demetris G wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>  is there an automated tool you know of that can semantically
>>query
>>Axis engines for services?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Semantics

[keith chapman]

Hi Martin,

Yes WSO2 WSAS <http://wso2.org/projects/wsas>[1] offers a complete run time
for your web services which needs enterprise capabilities (and is available
under the Apache License). I'm a bit confused on what you observed. If you
look into the bin directory of WSAS <http://wso2.org/projects/wsas> you
wouldn't see a script called axis2server.bat rather you would see
wso2wsas.bat. May be you missed something?

Thanks,
Keith.

[1] http://wso2.org/projects/wsas

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Afternoon Keith and Demetris
>
> I'm excited about having an all inclusive environment for configuring and
> deploying webservices
> to accomplish one is a feather in your cap
> to accomplish all capabilities deserves everyone's gratitude
>
>- Full support for WS-Security, WS-Trust, WS-Policy and WS-Secure
>Conversation and XKMS
>- EJB service provider support - Expose your EJBs as services
>- Axis1 backward compatibility - Deploy Axis1 services on WSAS & Engage
>advanced WS-* protocols in front of legacy services
>- JMX & Web interface based monitoring and management
>- WS-* & REST support
>
>
> I d/l ed ths distro from <http://wso2.org/projects/wsas>
> and ran axis2server.bat and see this error
>
> [ERROR] The rampart-1.3.mar module, which is not valid, caused
> org.apache.rampart.Rampart
> org.apache.axis2.deployment.DeploymentException: org.apache.rampart.Rampart
>
> org.apache.axis2.deployment.DeploymentException: org.apache.rampart.Rampart
> at org.apache.axis2.AxisFault.(AxisFault.java:259)
> at
> org.apache.axis2.deployment.DeploymentException.(DeploymentExcepctio)
>
> //as a double-check I took a look at module.xml contained within
> rampart-1.3.mar
> 
>
> This module provides the WS-Security and
> WS-SecureConversation
> functionalities for Axis2, based on Apache WSS4J, Apache XML-Security
> and Apache Rahas implementations.
> 
>
> 
>  class="org.apache.rampart.handler.RampartReceiver">
> 
> 
>  class="org.apache.rampart.handler.WSDoAllReceiver">
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
>  class="org.apache.rampart.handler.WSDoAllSender">
> 
> 
>  class="org.apache.rampart.handler.RampartSender">
> 
> 
> 
> http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy"/>
> 
> http://ws.apache.org/rampart/policy"; />
> 
> 
>
> seems that none of the classes referenced in module.xml made it into the
> rampart-1.3.mar distro
> ?
>
> Is there a different mar we can use or are the classes contained in a
> separate jar?
>
> thanks!
> Martin
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> > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:15:30 -0400
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Semantics
> > To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Keith,
> >
> > that's awesome. So you are saying that the admin service of WSAS
> > allows you to query services
> > semantically? I guess you have answered my question, I will need to
> > write a service to mediate such
> > a procedure. Makes sense.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > keith chapman wrote:
> > > You could easily write a service (Sort of a admin service) that can be
> > > used to query details on services deployed. We do this in WSO2 WSAS
> > > (Web Services Application Server). <http://wso2.org/projects/wsas>
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Keith.
> > >
> > > [1] http://wso2.org/projects/wsas
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Or put in a different way - is the only way to ask for a WSDL from
> > > an Axis / Axis2
> > > engine to use a URL with the web service name appended to it? Is
> > > there anyone
> > > work or anything done on using semantic matching in Axis itself or
> > > should a separate
> > > tool be used?
> > >
> > > Thanks much
> > 

Re: Semantics

[Demetris G]

Keith,

   one more Q - where are the service semantic descriptions stored on 
the side of the services container?
I am assuming that is what happens - the query arrives at the server, 
the query service handles/matches the

request, and sends back the WSDL of the deployed service.
I know how the OWL-S/UDDI combination works so I am wondering if this is 
a similar concept?


Thanks again

keith chapman wrote:
You could easily write a service (Sort of a admin service) that can be 
used to query details on services deployed. We do this in WSO2 WSAS 
(Web Services Application Server). 


Thanks,
Keith.

[1] http://wso2.org/projects/wsas

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:



Or put in a different way - is the only way to ask for a WSDL from
an Axis / Axis2
engine to use a URL with the web service name appended to it? Is
there anyone
work or anything done on using semantic matching in Axis itself or
should a separate
tool be used?

Thanks much

Demetris G wrote:


Hi all,

  is there an automated tool you know of that can semantically
query
Axis engines for services?

Thanks


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RE: Semantics

[Martin Gainty]

Afternoon Keith and Demetris

I'm excited about having an all inclusive environment for configuring and 
deploying webservices
to accomplish one is a feather in your cap 
to accomplish all capabilities deserves everyone's gratitude 
Full support for WS-Security, WS-Trust, WS-Policy and WS-Secure Conversation and
XKMSEJB service provider support - Expose your EJBs as 
servicesAxis1 backward compatibility - Deploy Axis1 services on WSAS & Engage 
advanced
WS-* protocols in front of legacy
servicesJMX & Web interface based monitoring and managementWS-* 
& REST support
I d/l ed ths distro from <http://wso2.org/projects/wsas>
and ran axis2server.bat and see this error

[ERROR] The rampart-1.3.mar module, which is not valid, caused 
org.apache.rampart.Rampart
org.apache.axis2.deployment.DeploymentException: org.apache.rampart.Rampart

org.apache.axis2.deployment.DeploymentException: org.apache.rampart.Rampart
at org.apache.axis2.AxisFault.(AxisFault.java:259)
at 
org.apache.axis2.deployment.DeploymentException.(DeploymentExcepctio)

//as a double-check I took a look at module.xml contained within rampart-1.3.mar


This module provides the WS-Security and WS-SecureConversation 
functionalities for Axis2, based on Apache WSS4J, Apache XML-Security 
and Apache Rahas implementations.



















http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/07/securitypolicy"/>

http://ws.apache.org/rampart/policy"; />



seems that none of the classes referenced in module.xml made it into the 
rampart-1.3.mar distro
?

Is there a different mar we can use or are the classes contained in a separate 
jar?

thanks!
Martin 
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> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:15:30 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Semantics
> To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
> 
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> that's awesome. So you are saying that the admin service of WSAS 
> allows you to query services
> semantically? I guess you have answered my question, I will need to 
> write a service to mediate such
> a procedure. Makes sense.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> keith chapman wrote:
> > You could easily write a service (Sort of a admin service) that can be 
> > used to query details on services deployed. We do this in WSO2 WSAS 
> > (Web Services Application Server). <http://wso2.org/projects/wsas>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Keith.
> >
> > [1] http://wso2.org/projects/wsas
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Or put in a different way - is the only way to ask for a WSDL from
> > an Axis / Axis2
> > engine to use a URL with the web service name appended to it? Is
> > there anyone
> > work or anything done on using semantic matching in Axis itself or
> > should a separate
> > tool be used?
> >
> > Thanks much
> >
> > Demetris G wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >   is there an automated tool you know of that can semantically
> > query
> > Axis engines for services?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
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> > Senior Software Engineer
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> > Oxygenating the Web Service Platform.
> > http://wso2.org/
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Re: Semantics

[Demetris G]

Hi Keith,

   that's awesome. So you are saying that the admin service of WSAS 
allows you to query services
semantically? I guess you have answered my question, I will need to 
write a service to mediate such

a procedure. Makes sense.

Thanks

keith chapman wrote:
You could easily write a service (Sort of a admin service) that can be 
used to query details on services deployed. We do this in WSO2 WSAS 
(Web Services Application Server). 


Thanks,
Keith.

[1] http://wso2.org/projects/wsas

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:



Or put in a different way - is the only way to ask for a WSDL from
an Axis / Axis2
engine to use a URL with the web service name appended to it? Is
there anyone
work or anything done on using semantic matching in Axis itself or
should a separate
tool be used?

Thanks much

Demetris G wrote:


Hi all,

  is there an automated tool you know of that can semantically
query
Axis engines for services?

Thanks


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Re: Semantics

[keith chapman]

You could easily write a service (Sort of a admin service) that can be used
to query details on services deployed. We do this in WSO2 WSAS (Web Services
Application Server). 

Thanks,
Keith.

[1] http://wso2.org/projects/wsas

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Or put in a different way - is the only way to ask for a WSDL from an Axis
> / Axis2
> engine to use a URL with the web service name appended to it? Is there
> anyone
> work or anything done on using semantic matching in Axis itself or should a
> separate
> tool be used?
>
> Thanks much
>
> Demetris G wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>   is there an automated tool you know of that can semantically query
>> Axis engines for services?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: Semantics

[Demetris G]

Or put in a different way - is the only way to ask for a WSDL from an 
Axis / Axis2
engine to use a URL with the web service name appended to it? Is there 
anyone
work or anything done on using semantic matching in Axis itself or 
should a separate

tool be used?

Thanks much

Demetris G wrote:


Hi all,

   is there an automated tool you know of that can semantically query
Axis engines for services?

Thanks


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