Re: Announce: O'Reilly's XML Publishing with AxKit

2004-07-22 Thread Kip Hampton
GARY Hoffman wrote:
Has anyone used AxKit in conjunction with
DreamWeaver or GoLive or a similar program with respect to creating
dynamic content for an otherwise static site?
Yes, there are several ways to generate content dynamically in AxKit 
(XSP, XPathScript, custom Providers, etc) but I'm not quite getting the 
connection between that and WYSIWYG tools like Dreamweaver. Clarify a bit?

Cheers.
-kip
--
XML Publishing with AxKit,
http://www.axkitbook.com/
** Buy Yours Today! **
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Announce: O'Reilly's XML Publishing with AxKit

2004-07-22 Thread Christian Jaeger
At 1:15 Uhr -0700 22.07.2004, Kip Hampton wrote:
GARY Hoffman wrote:
Has anyone used AxKit in conjunction with
DreamWeaver or GoLive or a similar program with respect to creating
dynamic content for an otherwise static site?
what we have done for the publishing system used at 
www.ethlife.ethz.ch is using dreamweaver for editing the *contents*. 
The html is parsed and converted to xml on uploading (or saving) the 
html file. Mainly css styles are used by the editors for the text 
markup. Invalid markup is removed and is generating a warning message 
popped up to the editor. Except for some bugs still in the system, 
that works pretty well. Maybe today's client side xml editors provide 
a good alternative though.

Christian
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: Announce: O'Reilly's XML Publishing with AxKit

2004-07-22 Thread Garrett Goebel
 Michael A Nachbaur wrote:
  Robin Berjon wrote:
  Kip Hampton wrote:
   _XML Publishing with AxKit_ has been published and is now available 
   at bookseller near you! For more information, please see the Table 
   of Contents below and visit:
  
   http://www.axkitbook.com/
 
  I've read that book, and I have to say it's probably one of the finest 
  to come from O'Reilly (and no, I don't get royalties for saying this ;).
  I've known AxKit very well for years, yet that book still managed to 
  add some coherence to that knowledge -- I'm sure reading it will be 
  beneficial to any AxKit user (and likely, to any Cocoon user).
 
 I'd have to agree with this.  Using the section on producing dynamic
 XML is what helped push me over the edge from XSP to building my own
 custom providers.  Kip's been harping on me for some time that
 Providers are a way easier development paridigm, but I just hadn't
 grok'd the concept until I read his book.

Okay... okay... Due to the glowing reviews I've just put my order into
Amazon.

--
Garrett Goebel
IS Development Specialist

ScriptPro   Direct: 913.403.5261
5828 Reeds Road   Main: 913.384.1008
Mission, KS 66202  Fax: 913.384.2180
www.scriptpro.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: Announce: O'Reilly's XML Publishing with AxKit

2004-07-22 Thread Thomas, Mark - BLS CTR
I highly recommend Xopus (www.xopus.com).

It's an XML Editor that runs in the browser and lets users edit an
XSL-styled page in WYSIWYG fashion. It is schema-aware (any arbitrary
schema!) so that it can ensure what is submitted is valid. The XSL is
applied live, i.e. if you are sorting an element in the XSL, and use the
editor to add a new element, it pops into its correct place. There are many
other cool features too, a demo is available on their site. It's IE-only
(for now) but Bitflux (www.bitfluxeditor.org) is the equivalent editor for
the Mozilla engine (though I haven't tried it).

 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Howe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 4:42 AM
 To: Kip Hampton
 Cc: GARY Hoffman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Announce: O'Reilly's XML Publishing with AxKit
 
 
 You might be better off looking at xml programs like Altova's 
 XMLSpy/Stylevision, Stylus Studio or cooktop. These all provide 
 friendly interfaces for developing xml/xslt content and templates.
 
 I know some of the fancy content management systems (like 
 percussion) can 
 generate xlst from html created in dreamweaver and stylus 
 studio can take 
 html content and map it to xml files.
 
 Programs like Dreamweaver and Golive are mostly design 
 oriented, you can 
 take the html they generate and feed it into your xslt 
 stylesheets, but 
 dreamweaver itself doesnt yet support XSLT to my knowledge.
 
 tom
 
 On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Kip Hampton wrote:
 
  GARY Hoffman wrote:
  
   Has anyone used AxKit in conjunction with
   DreamWeaver or GoLive or a similar program with respect 
 to creating 
   dynamic content for an otherwise static site?
  
  Yes, there are several ways to generate content dynamically in AxKit
  (XSP, XPathScript, custom Providers, etc) but I'm not quite 
 getting the 
  connection between that and WYSIWYG tools like Dreamweaver. 
 Clarify a bit?
  
  Cheers.
  -kip
  --
  XML Publishing with AxKit,
  http://www.axkitbook.com/
  ** Buy Yours Today! **
  
  
 -
  To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 
 -
 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Announce: O'Reilly's XML Publishing with AxKit

2004-07-21 Thread Kip Hampton
Howdy Axers,
Yes, the rumors are (finally) true...
_XML Publishing with AxKit_ has been published and is now available at 
bookseller near you! For more information, please see the Table of 
Contents below and visit:

http://www.axkitbook.com/
I did my best to make sure that book has something for everyone, 
regardless of their familiarity with AxKit. New users will find detailed 
but concise coverage of the common topics of XML-based publishing, as 
well as need-to-know level introductions to XSLT, XPathScript, and XSP. 
AxKit veterans will find advanced publishing techniques, exhaustive API 
references for each of AxKit components, and clear strategies for (and 
examples of) how to extend AxKit to meet new or specialized requirements.

It is my sincerest hope that the book will not only help to inform the 
current members of the AxKit community, but will serve as a tool for 
AxKit advocacy and means for developing a larger and stronger community 
in the future.

If you pick up a copy (I know some folks here already have) be sure to 
share your thoughts by posting reviews on your favorite tech site or 
blog of choice-- the more people that know about AxKit, the more likely 
they are to leave their creaky 20th century tools behind.

Thanks for enduring my little pitch; we now return you to your regularly 
scheduled AxKitting, already in progress...

Cheers,
-kip
ps. I'll be giving a session talk on AxKit at O'Reilly's Open Source 
Convention next week in Portland. If you are attending OSCon (you are, 
aren't you???), feel free to drop by and say 'Hi' (and maybe even get 
your book signed :-).

Table of Contents:
Preface
1. XML as a Publishing Technology
 Exploding a Few Myths About XML Publishing
 XML Basics
 Publishing XML Content
 Introducing AxKit, an XML Application Server for Apache
2. Installing AxKit
 Installation Requirements
 Installing the AxKit Core
 Installing AxKit on Win 32 Systems
 Basic Server Configuration
 Testing the Installation
 Installation Troubleshooting
3. Your First XML Web Site
 Preparation
 Creating the Source XML Documents
 Writing the Stylesheet
 Associating the Documents with the Stylesheet
 A Step Further: Syndicating Content
4. Points of Style
 Adding Transformation Language Modules
 Defining Style Processors
 Dynamically Choosing Style Transformations
 Style Processor Configuration Cheatsheet
5. Transforming XML Content with XSLT
 XSLT Basics
 A Brief XSLT Cookbook
6. Transforming XML Content with XPathScript
 XPathScript Basics
 The Template Hash: A Closer Look
 XPathScript Cookbook
7. Serving Dynamic XML Content
 Introduction to eXtensible Server Pages
 Other Dynamic XML Techniques
8. Extending AxKit
 AxKit's Architecture
 Custom Plug-ins
 Custom Providers
 Custom Language Modules
 Custom ConfigReaders
 Getting More Information
9. Integrating AxKit with Other Tools
 The Template Toolkit
 Providing Content via Apache::Filter
Appendix: AxKit Configuration Directive Reference
Index
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Announce: O'Reilly's XML Publishing with AxKit

2004-07-21 Thread Robin Berjon
Kip Hampton wrote:
_XML Publishing with AxKit_ has been published and is now available at 
bookseller near you! For more information, please see the Table of 
Contents below and visit:

http://www.axkitbook.com/
I've read that book, and I have to say it's probably one of the finest 
to come from O'Reilly (and no, I don't get royalties for saying this ;). 
I've known AxKit very well for years, yet that book still managed to add 
some coherence to that knowledge -- I'm sure reading it will be 
beneficial to any AxKit user (and likely, to any Cocoon user).

groupieKip, you rock!/groupie
--
Robin Berjon
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Announce: O'Reilly's XML Publishing with AxKit

2004-07-21 Thread Tom Howe

I bought it :) Haven't read it yet thought, looks good but I mostly bought 
it on principal! Shall let you know my views if I have any :)



On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Kip Hampton wrote:

 Howdy Axers,
 
 Yes, the rumors are (finally) true...
 
 _XML Publishing with AxKit_ has been published and is now available at 
 bookseller near you! For more information, please see the Table of 
 Contents below and visit:
 
 http://www.axkitbook.com/
 
 I did my best to make sure that book has something for everyone, 
 regardless of their familiarity with AxKit. New users will find detailed 
 but concise coverage of the common topics of XML-based publishing, as 
 well as need-to-know level introductions to XSLT, XPathScript, and XSP. 
 AxKit veterans will find advanced publishing techniques, exhaustive API 
 references for each of AxKit components, and clear strategies for (and 
 examples of) how to extend AxKit to meet new or specialized requirements.
 
 It is my sincerest hope that the book will not only help to inform the 
 current members of the AxKit community, but will serve as a tool for 
 AxKit advocacy and means for developing a larger and stronger community 
 in the future.
 
 If you pick up a copy (I know some folks here already have) be sure to 
 share your thoughts by posting reviews on your favorite tech site or 
 blog of choice-- the more people that know about AxKit, the more likely 
 they are to leave their creaky 20th century tools behind.
 
 Thanks for enduring my little pitch; we now return you to your regularly 
 scheduled AxKitting, already in progress...
 
 Cheers,
 -kip
 
 ps. I'll be giving a session talk on AxKit at O'Reilly's Open Source 
 Convention next week in Portland. If you are attending OSCon (you are, 
 aren't you???), feel free to drop by and say 'Hi' (and maybe even get 
 your book signed :-).
 
 
 Table of Contents:
 
 Preface
 
 1. XML as a Publishing Technology
   Exploding a Few Myths About XML Publishing
   XML Basics
   Publishing XML Content
   Introducing AxKit, an XML Application Server for Apache
 
 2. Installing AxKit
   Installation Requirements
   Installing the AxKit Core
   Installing AxKit on Win 32 Systems
   Basic Server Configuration
   Testing the Installation
   Installation Troubleshooting
 
 3. Your First XML Web Site
   Preparation
   Creating the Source XML Documents
   Writing the Stylesheet
   Associating the Documents with the Stylesheet
   A Step Further: Syndicating Content
 
 4. Points of Style
   Adding Transformation Language Modules
   Defining Style Processors
   Dynamically Choosing Style Transformations
   Style Processor Configuration Cheatsheet
 
 5. Transforming XML Content with XSLT
   XSLT Basics
   A Brief XSLT Cookbook
 
 6. Transforming XML Content with XPathScript
   XPathScript Basics
   The Template Hash: A Closer Look
   XPathScript Cookbook
 
 7. Serving Dynamic XML Content
   Introduction to eXtensible Server Pages
   Other Dynamic XML Techniques
 
 8. Extending AxKit
   AxKit's Architecture
   Custom Plug-ins
   Custom Providers
   Custom Language Modules
   Custom ConfigReaders
   Getting More Information
 
 9. Integrating AxKit with Other Tools
   The Template Toolkit
   Providing Content via Apache::Filter
 
 Appendix: AxKit Configuration Directive Reference
 
 Index
 
 -
 To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]