[Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-06 Thread Marc Lajoie
I love where Unity is going, but there is one part of the interface that
makes no sense to me: the upper-left ubuntu button. I cannot imagine
ever wanting to click it.

Try as I might I cannot find a usage scenario where the dash screen with
the big shortcut buttons would be useful. If I want applications, I
click the applications place; files, the files place; etc. So the
shortcut buttons are shortcuts in name only, since they require an
extra click to use. 

Since it is the most accessible and visible button, the ubuntu button
really should be given a useful function. Right now it brings up a sort
of intro interface, possibly useful new users who haven't yet figured
out where everything is. But new users don't stay a new users very
long--after a few minutes figuring out Unity they will never want to see
that screen again.

Possible ideas:
- Make it bring up the user-assigned place. I, personally, would have
it bring up the applications place. Others might set it up differently.
- Have it bring up a place which is a condensed amalgamation of all
the other places, so that users can have quick access to apps, files,
people, simultaneously.
- Have it be a trigger to recall the dock. This would be useful in the
case of a touch interface, so that the dock's autohide may be used on
touch-enabled devices (esp. ones with limited screen real-estate)


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Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-06 Thread A. Casco
I'm completely agree with your vision.


 Try as I might I cannot find a usage scenario where the dash screen
 with
 the big shortcut buttons would be useful. If I want applications, I
 click the applications place; files, the files place; etc. So the
 shortcut buttons are shortcuts in name only, since they require an
 extra click to use 


Click on Ubuntu's Icon for some shortcuts, lets see.. Apps (we an icon
on Launcher for that); Files and Folders (same situation that Apps);
then, Banshee (Sound Menu or Launcher if we want), Web Browser (include
on Launcher out of the box), Shotwell (same that Browser if we want)..

I mean, from Ubuntu's icon we can access to Web Browser, Apps,
Files/Folders, Banshee, Shotter... But, from Launcher we can access to
the same apps, folder or shortcuts. We have 3 icons for access  the same
Dash with 3 different (unnecessary) filtering options.

So:

- Maybe it could be better eliminate Apps and File/Folder's icons from
Launcher and integrate them on Ubuntu's icon.

- Use Ubuntu's Icon for show System Information or another useful
option/application.


 - Have it be a trigger to recall the dock. This would be useful in the
 case of a touch interface, so that the dock's autohide may be used on
 touch-enabled devices (esp. ones with limited screen real-estate)


This last idea it's great!

Regards!
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Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 06/03/11 22:02, Martín A. Casco wrote:
 Click on Ubuntu's Icon for some shortcuts, lets see.. Apps (we an icon
 on Launcher for that); Files and Folders (same situation that Apps);
 then, Banshee (Sound Menu or Launcher if we want), Web Browser
 (include on Launcher out of the box), Shotwell (same that Browser if
 we want)..

 I mean, from Ubuntu's icon we can access to Web Browser, Apps,
 Files/Folders, Banshee, Shotter... But, from Launcher we can access to
 the same apps, folder or shortcuts. We have 3 icons for access  the
 same Dash with 3 different (unnecessary) filtering options.

Yes, the degree of overlap between the launcher and the shortcuts bears
thinking about. In part, we were concerned that a user might
inadvertently remove one of the key apps from the launcher, and the
shortcuts would thus provide a standardised way to restore them. We
deliberately made the shortcuts shrinkable, and a future update will
use that fact to make the Dash leaner and neater.

We've said we want to use icon styling to differentiate between dash
lenses and applications.

 So:

 - Maybe it could be better eliminate Apps and File/Folder's icons from
 Launcher and integrate them on Ubuntu's icon.

 - Use Ubuntu's Icon for show System Information or another useful
 option/application.

Putting system settings in the shortcuts is one option, yes.

 - Have it be a trigger to recall the dock. This would be useful in the
 case of a touch interface, so that the dock's autohide may be used on
 touch-enabled devices (esp. ones with limited screen real-estate)

 This last idea it's great!

None of the menu bar elements is touch friendly. A touch point needs to
be 8mm square, by our definition. 22px is much less on any normal
display. So this is not a great plan. The dash / launcher can be
revealed with a 4-drag from left to right on touch devices.

Mark



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[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~marcelstimberg/indicator-me/translator-comments into lp:indicator-me

2011-03-06 Thread Marcel Stimberg
Marcel Stimberg has proposed merging 
lp:~marcelstimberg/indicator-me/translator-comments into lp:indicator-me.

Requested reviews:
  Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers)
Related bugs:
  #730234 need translation context for string Unknown
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/730234

For more details, see:
https://code.launchpad.net/~marcelstimberg/indicator-me/translator-comments/+merge/52346

Adds translator comments for the user status strings (most important for 
unknown).
-- 
https://code.launchpad.net/~marcelstimberg/indicator-me/translator-comments/+merge/52346
Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-me.
=== modified file 'src/indicator-me.c'
--- src/indicator-me.c	2011-03-02 19:22:20 +
+++ src/indicator-me.c	2011-03-06 21:24:57 +
@@ -289,16 +289,22 @@
 	}
 
 	if (g_strcmp0(icon, user-away) == 0) {
+		/* Translators: user status Away */
 		status_desc = _(Away);
 	} else if (g_strcmp0(icon, user-invisible) == 0) {
+		/* Translators: user status Invisible */
 		status_desc = _(Invisible);
 	} else if (g_strcmp0(icon, user-busy) == 0) {
+		/* Translators: user status Busy */
 		status_desc = _(Busy);
 	} else if (g_strcmp0(icon, user-available) == 0) {
+		/* Translators: user status Available */
 		status_desc = _(Available);
 	} else if (g_strcmp0(icon, user-indeterminate) == 0) {
+		/* Translators: user status Unknown */
 		status_desc = _(Unknown);
 	} else if (g_strcmp0(icon, user-offline) == 0) {
+		/* Translators: user status Offline */
 		status_desc = _(Offline);
 	}
 

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