[Ayatana-dev] Access to the file.
I would like to access this file. Is it possible? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/725225/comments/2 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-dev Post to : ayatana-dev@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] Unity Dock Icons behavior - Context Menu
Thanks for the explanation. That would be perfect if QuickList entry for new window could be reactivated for apps that support it, right. In this connection, regarding the question for switching between windows, is there a discussion / decision ? When we want to switch from one of the current instance to another, we have to click on the icon in Unity dock, and it shows us with an animation a small view of all these windows. I'd like that the current window is shown at the right side and the other shown closest and near the Unity dock (in top left), it would be easier and make less mouse move to change instance. ... Would it be possible to add a configuration option for current window going to the (top) right when clicking to switch, and other(s) on (top) left or bottom ? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Xavier On 11/03/2011 08:59, Didier Roche wrote: No, it has been done on purpose as asked on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/709707 See the comment 3. The idea is to add quicklist entries in the desktop files when we know applications support multiple instances (which isn't always the case, like devhelp which doesn't open a new one but focus the existing instance), or when it doesn't do thing wrong (like gimp, opening a new full instance with toolbar and such and not only a new document). Some guidance about how to do that is available there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI#Static Quicklist entries We are still discussing on the xdg list about the OnlyShowIn values (Unity or X-Unity) before launching a campaign of community help:) Didier ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] A mockup of Unity Launcher Workspaces docklet
Hi i'm ghogaru. I'd like to present my Unity Launcher Workspaces docklet mockup. You may see the mockup here: http://www.imgup.com/?di=312998368892 As you can see the idea of the mockup is a dual-functional docklet; Workspaces and Expose windows When you right click on the Workspaces docklet on the launcher, a menu pops up to choose whether 'Workspaces' or 'Expose'. When you choose 'Expose', the windows on desktop will be in 'Expose windows' state, and the Workspaces docklet will be replaced by Expose docklet on the launcher. -- This message was sent from Launchpad by Muhammad Nabil (https://launchpad.net/~ghogaru) using the Contact this team link on the Ayatana Discussion team page (https://launchpad.net/~ayatana). For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] Zooming the Icon on the launcher (like Docky does)
Hi all Would it be not a good idea to make the launcher more living by adding a zoom when we are moving the mouse over an icon on the launcher as Docky does ? Unity has made a good step forward and it would good to make it more living by adding this annimation, this should be the reponse of the launcher to the user when moving over him ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] A mockup of Unity Launcher Workspaces docklet
I like this idea, but I don't like the icon of the expose mode ! it makes me think of windows 7 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Muhammad Nabil ottoman.k...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi i'm ghogaru. I'd like to present my Unity Launcher Workspaces docklet mockup. You may see the mockup here: http://www.imgup.com/?di=312998368892 As you can see the idea of the mockup is a dual-functional docklet; Workspaces and Expose windows When you right click on the Workspaces docklet on the launcher, a menu pops up to choose whether 'Workspaces' or 'Expose'. When you choose 'Expose', the windows on desktop will be in 'Expose windows' state, and the Workspaces docklet will be replaced by Expose docklet on the launcher. -- This message was sent from Launchpad by Muhammad Nabil (https://launchpad.net/~ghogaru) using the Contact this team link on the Ayatana Discussion team page (https://launchpad.net/~ayatana). For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
Just got the news from the following link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ My opinion is - 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'. Actually, Session menu has nothing in common with Control Center! The Control Center should be in launcher. So that people can easily get access to the control center. I think it'll be very difficult to find out for the users that to change the preferences of his desktop he has to go to the Session Menu. Also by placing it on the launcher, it actually saves one click... :) What do you think? -- M. Adnan Quaium URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
Another problem is, there is a chance to click the SHUT DOWN button mistakenly while clicking the CONTROL CENTRE. On 11 March 2011 14:21, Kévin PEIGNOT winniemie...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, maybe even with a dedicated unity-place instead of the traditionnal control center. 2011/3/11 M. Adnan Quaium adnan.qua...@ubuntu-bd.org Just got the news from the following link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ My opinion is - 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'. Actually, Session menu has nothing in common with Control Center! The Control Center should be in launcher. So that people can easily get access to the control center. I think it'll be very difficult to find out for the users that to change the preferences of his desktop he has to go to the Session Menu. Also by placing it on the launcher, it actually saves one click... :) What do you think? -- M. Adnan Quaium URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Envoyé depuis gmail, via Firefox 4 sur Ubuntu 10.10 -- M. Adnan Quaium URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
+1 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:39 AM, M. Adnan Quaium adnan.qua...@ubuntu-bd.org wrote: Just got the news from the following link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ My opinion is - 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'. Actually, Session menu has nothing in common with Control Center! The Control Center should be in launcher. So that people can easily get access to the control center. I think it'll be very difficult to find out for the users that to change the preferences of his desktop he has to go to the Session Menu. Also by placing it on the launcher, it actually saves one click... :) What do you think? -- M. Adnan Quaium URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 13:39 +0100, M. Adnan Quaium wrote: Just got the news from the following link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ My opinion is - 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'. Actually, Session menu has nothing in common with Control Center! The Control Center should be in launcher. So that people can easily get access to the control center. I think it'll be very difficult to find out for the users that to change the preferences of his desktop he has to go to the Session Menu. Also by placing it on the launcher, it actually saves one click... :) What do you think? How often do you actually keep changing the System Preferences? Usually one changes a setting maybe a few times during an extended period of usage, but it is not something that warrants a dedicated launcher. A dedicated launcher would just overload the Dash(springboard). -- Cheers, Vish ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
On 11/03/11 12:39, M. Adnan Quaium wrote: Just got the news from the following link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ My opinion is - 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'. Actually, Session menu has nothing in common with Control Center! The Control Center should be in launcher. So that people can easily get access to the control center. I think it'll be very difficult to find out for the users that to change the preferences of his desktop he has to go to the Session Menu. Also by placing it on the launcher, it actually saves one click... :) What do you think? -- M. Adnan Quaium Unless of course you're of the opinion (as I am) that the control centre relates to session management/administration. Although I understand for some this could be seen as a bit of a leap. I would certainly accept that there is a justification for including the control centre in the launcher (perhaps as an option). It could be placed with the recycle bin at the bottom of the screen. On 11/03/11 14:21, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: I agree, maybe even with a dedicated unity-place instead of the traditionnal control center. -- Envoyé depuis gmail, via Firefox 4 sur Ubuntu 10.10 I do like that idea; a means of highlighting administrative applications and separating them from the hoi polloi of the regular applications could be useful. On 11/03/11 13:25, M. Adnan Quaium wrote: Another problem is, there is a chance to click the SHUT DOWN button mistakenly while clicking the CONTROL CENTRE. -- M. Adnan Quaium It was my understanding that such was the reasoning behind the shut-down and restart confirmation dialogues. As an aside, why were similar dialogues for standby and hibernate abandoned. That decision never made much sense to me, and I do hope it's reversed at some point. I can't count the number of times (actually I can, it's 4) that I've accidentally put my computer into standby/hibernation via Docky's session docklet. Regards, Lee Hyde. -- It is characteristic of theistic tolerance that no one really cares what the people believe in, just so they believe or pretend to believe. -- Emma Goldman, The Philosophy of Atheism (1916) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor cluttering up the Launcher From: v...@ubuntu.com To: adnan.qua...@ubuntu-bd.org Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:52:30 +0530 CC: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu' On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 13:39 +0100, M. Adnan Quaium wrote: Just got the news from the following link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ My opinion is - 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'. Actually, Session menu has nothing in common with Control Center! The Control Center should be in launcher. So that people can easily get access to the control center. I think it'll be very difficult to find out for the users that to change the preferences of his desktop he has to go to the Session Menu. Also by placing it on the launcher, it actually saves one click... :) What do you think? How often do you actually keep changing the System Preferences? Usually one changes a setting maybe a few times during an extended period of usage, but it is not something that warrants a dedicated launcher. A dedicated launcher would just overload the Dash(springboard). -- Cheers, Vish ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
I agree with putting it in the Me Menu. We can't put everything only one click away, since with all that you want to do on a daily basis, that would make for a very cluttered environment. Frequently used apps should go in the launcher, along with the places. Most other things should be left out. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 07:41, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com wrote: Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor cluttering up the Launcher From: v...@ubuntu.com To: adnan.qua...@ubuntu-bd.org Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:52:30 +0530 CC: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu' On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 13:39 +0100, M. Adnan Quaium wrote: Just got the news from the following link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ My opinion is - 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'. Actually, Session menu has nothing in common with Control Center! The Control Center should be in launcher. So that people can easily get access to the control center. I think it'll be very difficult to find out for the users that to change the preferences of his desktop he has to go to the Session Menu. Also by placing it on the launcher, it actually saves one click... :) What do you think? How often do you actually keep changing the System Preferences? Usually one changes a setting maybe a few times during an extended period of usage, but it is not something that warrants a dedicated launcher. A dedicated launcher would just overload the Dash(springboard). -- Cheers, Vish ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Ian Santopietro CEO - Prodigy Games Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast Ofer middangeard monnum sended Pa gur yv y porthaur? Public GPG key (RSA): http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x412F52DB1BBF1234 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
+1 Me menu sounds promising. On 11 March 2011 16:22, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with putting it in the Me Menu. We can't put everything only one click away, since with all that you want to do on a daily basis, that would make for a very cluttered environment. Frequently used apps should go in the launcher, along with the places. Most other things should be left out. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 07:41, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com wrote: Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor cluttering up the Launcher From: v...@ubuntu.com To: adnan.qua...@ubuntu-bd.org Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:52:30 +0530 CC: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu' On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 13:39 +0100, M. Adnan Quaium wrote: Just got the news from the following link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ My opinion is - 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'. Actually, Session menu has nothing in common with Control Center! The Control Center should be in launcher. So that people can easily get access to the control center. I think it'll be very difficult to find out for the users that to change the preferences of his desktop he has to go to the Session Menu. Also by placing it on the launcher, it actually saves one click... :) What do you think? How often do you actually keep changing the System Preferences? Usually one changes a setting maybe a few times during an extended period of usage, but it is not something that warrants a dedicated launcher. A dedicated launcher would just overload the Dash(springboard). -- Cheers, Vish ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Ian Santopietro CEO - Prodigy Games Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast Ofer middangeard monnum sended Pa gur yv y porthaur? Public GPG key (RSA): http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x412F52DB1BBF1234 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- M. Adnan Quaium URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
May be it can be renamed as Desktop Preferences or any suitable name (if it is possible) rather than Control Centre... On 11 March 2011 16:43, Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/11 14:41, Mark Curtis wrote: Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor cluttering up the Launcher I can't imagine any justification for placing a Control Centre entry within the Me Menu (other than desperation). It simply doesn't fit the Me Menus brief in that it has nothing to do with identity and online status. One could make a case for including an entry for Users and Groups within the Me Menu, but a Control Centre entry would be even more misplaced than the current (in stock Maverick) Ubuntu One entry (which oddly enough is moving to the Messaging Menu in Natty). Regards, Lee. -- In order to offer someone a financial reward without him working for it, the government must first ensure that somebody else works for a financial reward without getting it. There is no other way. -- Douglas Wilson ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- M. Adnan Quaium URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
On 11 March 2011 15:43, Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/11 14:41, Mark Curtis wrote: Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor cluttering up the Launcher I can't imagine any justification for placing a Control Centre entry within the Me Menu (other than desperation). It simply doesn't fit the Me Menus brief in that it has nothing to do with identity and online status. One could make a case for including an entry for Users and Groups within the Me Menu, but a Control Centre entry would be even more misplaced than the current (in stock Maverick) Ubuntu One entry (which oddly enough is moving to the Messaging Menu in Natty). Regards, Lee. Absolutely, the control center doesn't fit at all in any of the indicators (although certain elements of it do). Luke. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 08:43, Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com wrote: I can't imagine any justification for placing a Control Centre entry within the Me Menu (other than desperation). Bit of stretch maybe, but... Preferences are personal. They're about what you want, as opposed to system defaults, application behavior, or even data. In that sense, there's something inherently me-related to the settings I've selected. -- Jeremy Nickurak -= Email/XMPP: -= jer...@nickurak.ca =- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
Given that Windows puts it's Control Panel link in the same “space” as its session management options¹ this is at the very least consistent and pretty familiar behaviour. ¹ A sample image I pulled off Google: http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sshot20091028222007.png 2011/3/11 M. Adnan Quaium adnan.qua...@linux.org.bd May be it can be renamed as Desktop Preferences or any suitable name (if it is possible) rather than Control Centre... On 11 March 2011 16:43, Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/11 14:41, Mark Curtis wrote: Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor cluttering up the Launcher I can't imagine any justification for placing a Control Centre entry within the Me Menu (other than desperation). It simply doesn't fit the Me Menus brief in that it has nothing to do with identity and online status. One could make a case for including an entry for Users and Groups within the Me Menu, but a Control Centre entry would be even more misplaced than the current (in stock Maverick) Ubuntu One entry (which oddly enough is moving to the Messaging Menu in Natty). Regards, Lee. -- In order to offer someone a financial reward without him working for it, the government must first ensure that somebody else works for a financial reward without getting it. There is no other way. -- Douglas Wilson ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- M. Adnan Quaium URL: http://adnan.quaium.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana] Minimize a window in Unity by clicking it's icon
Hi all, At the moment it is only possible to maximize a window but it's not possible to minimize a window in Unity by clicking it's icon. The minimize button in the top panel is a option but it would be nice if it is possible to minimize the window by clicking on the icon in the Unity launcher. The same way as it is possible in the dock bar in Apple OSX. Would it be possible to add this option? Best regards, Ubby ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
Mark Curtis wrote: Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor cluttering up the Launcher Ian Santopietro wrote: I agree with putting it in the Me Menu. We can't put everything only one click away, since with all that you want to do on a daily basis, that would make for a very cluttered environment. Frequently used apps should go in the launcher, along with the places. Most other things should be left out. M. Adnan Quaium wrote: +1 Me menu sounds promising. I'm seeing arguments against the Session Menu and the Launcher, but no arguments actually in favor of the Me Menu specifically. I think it would be equally or more inadequate than the Session Menu. I agree with the previous proposal of making it a Dash view. The control center is just a categorized set of application shortcuts, exactly what the Dash is optimized to handle. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
On 11/03/11 15:51, M. Adnan Quaium wrote: May be it can be renamed as Desktop Preferences or any suitable name (if it is possible) rather than Control Centre... Changing the name won't change it's unsuitability for the Me Menu. It just doesn't fit there at all. If it must be placed in any indicator menu, whatever the name, the Session Menu is the best fit (though far from perfect). On 11/03/11 15:56, Luke Benstead wrote: Absolutely, the control center doesn't fit at all in any of the indicators (although certain elements of it do). I do actually think one can make a rather good case for a Control Centre within the Session Menu. Although I think it would be far better to include select administrative tools (e.g. Users and Groups) in appropriate indicator menus whilst leaving the remainder exclusively within the Dash. I also rather like Kévin PEIGNOT suggestion of a dedicated Control Centre (or Administrative Tasks) place. On 11/03/11 16:00, Jeremy Nickurak wrote: Bit of stretch maybe, but... Preferences are personal. They're about what you want, as opposed to system defaults, application behavior, or even data. In that sense, there's something inherently me-related to the settings I've selected. That is indeed a bit of a stretch. Though it was as valiant attempt, if ever I've read one, to shoe-horn something into an indicator menu. ;-) By the same token one could merge the Messages Menu into the Me Menu on the grounds that (nominally) are directed towards the end user (the proverbial 'Me'). The Me Menus brief is concerned with online status and identity to wit a Control Centre entry has no relation. The Session Menus brief is a little less clear (to me) but a reasonable interpretation would be that it's concerned with sessions (obviously) and system status (the latter of which could be used to justify the presence of a Control Centre). On 11/03/11 16:50, Conscious User wrote: I agree with the previous proposal of making it a Dash view. The control center is just a categorized set of application shortcuts, exactly what the Dash is optimized to handle. +1 Kind Regards, Lee -- In order to offer someone a financial reward without him working for it, the government must first ensure that somebody else works for a financial reward without getting it. There is no other way. -- Douglas Wilson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
On Fr, 2011-03-11 at 09:41 -0500, Mark Curtis wrote: Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor cluttering up the Launcher It would solve these problems, but IMHO cause others that are worse. First of all, why the Me menu? Barely anything in the control center has anything to do with me. I, personally, would never look there if I searched for computer settings. Even My Computer made more sense for a control center location. That may be also because I don't use the Me menu at all, since all it contains are chat and Twitter stuff, neither of which I use on my private computer. And even though Ubuntu is very proud about the Me menu and social from the start or whatever the tag line is, none of the non-expert Ubuntu users I support use it either, simply because they are not interested in the functionality. Some even removed it from the panel. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 16:56, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 March 2011 15:43, Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/11 14:41, Mark Curtis wrote: Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor cluttering up the Launcher I can't imagine any justification for placing a Control Centre entry within the Me Menu (other than desperation). It simply doesn't fit the Me Menus brief in that it has nothing to do with identity and online status. One could make a case for including an entry for Users and Groups within the Me Menu, but a Control Centre entry would be even more misplaced than the current (in stock Maverick) Ubuntu One entry (which oddly enough is moving to the Messaging Menu in Natty). Regards, Lee. Absolutely, the control center doesn't fit at all in any of the indicators (although certain elements of it do). Luke. exactly. Semantically correct would be Session Preferences or Session Options or Session Settings or something session-related. This is an opportunity to get the wording right for once.. In that case, the session menu would be the right place. and Session Preferences could then reveal a page containing settings like the following: * Notifications [ON | OFF] * Screensaver [ON | OFF] * IDLE Timeout [ ... ] * ... but Control Center is something i can live with, even if it doesn't quite correspond with Session Preferences yet.. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 17:50, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: The control center is just a categorized set of application shortcuts, exactly what the Dash is optimized to handle. and the indicator menu item would be but a shortcut to that dash view, if it gets implemented as you suggest. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'
On 11 March 2011 07:39, M. Adnan Quaium adnan.qua...@ubuntu-bd.org wrote: Just got the news from the following link: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-natty-adds-control-centre-entry-to-session-menu/ My opinion is - 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'. Actually, Session menu has nothing in common with Control Center! The Control Center should be in launcher. So that people can easily get access to the control center. I think it'll be very difficult to find out for the users that to change the preferences of his desktop he has to go to the Session Menu. Also by placing it on the launcher, it actually saves one click... :) What do you think? -- M. Adnan Quaium Gnome Shell has a single me menu merging sessions IM status which also has a link for Control Center. I think having a link in either the me menu or the session menu is a good idea for consistency with Gnome 3. The new Control Center is pretty nice but unfortunately it doesn't look like we'll get it in 11.04 except through the Gnome 3 PPA. My preference is for it to be in the me menu or at least moved above Log Out in the session menu. I think putting Control Center on the left launcher by default gives it way too much prominence as there's limited space there. Jeremy Bicha ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~jbicha/lo-menubar/description-lp-733615 into lp:lo-menubar
Jeremy Bicha has proposed merging lp:~jbicha/lo-menubar/description-lp-733615 into lp:lo-menubar. Requested reviews: LO Menubar Rockstars (lo-menubar-team) Related bugs: Bug #733615 in LibreOffice Menubar Extension: No description for LO Extension Manager https://bugs.launchpad.net/lo-menubar/+bug/733615 For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/lo-menubar/description-lp-733615/+merge/53109 -- https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/lo-menubar/description-lp-733615/+merge/53109 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:lo-menubar. === added file 'description.xml' --- description.xml 1970-01-01 00:00:00 + +++ description.xml 2011-03-12 00:29:53 + @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? +description + +xmlns=http://openoffice.org/extensions/description/2006; +xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; +xmlns:dep=http://openoffice.org/extensions/description/2006; +identifier value=org.launchpad.lo-menubar / + +dependencies +OpenOffice.org-minimal-version value=3.3 dep:name=OpenOffice.org 3.3/ +/dependencies + +version value=0.0.5 / + +publisher +name xlink:href=https://launchpad.net/lo-menubar; lang=enCanonical/name +/publisher + +display-name +name lang=en-USMenubar/name +/display-name + +/description === added directory 'help' === added file 'help/component.txt' --- help/component.txt 1970-01-01 00:00:00 + +++ help/component.txt 2011-03-12 00:29:53 + @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +The LibreOffice Menubar extension adds support for the globalmenu which is used in Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to : ayatana-commits@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~bladernr/indicator-applet/clean-up-apport-hooks into lp:indicator-applet
I should add that I'm not sure if this is the correct place to propose this or not... it's a branch of lp:~ubuntu-desktop/indicator-applet/ubuntu originally... -- https://code.launchpad.net/~bladernr/indicator-applet/clean-up-apport-hooks/+merge/53116 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-applet. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to : ayatana-commits@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp