[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Barbara Manadas, Sao Jorge
Dear Maggie, Joao's birth was on October 12, 1817 and his baptism was on the 15th, same month. Godparents were Pedro Jose Rodrigues Theodoro an Maria Josefa (I think). Arline Silveira I so wish I could read these things.?? On this page of the Mandadas birth records 1801 to 1819, http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVMB1801-1819/SJVMB1801-1819_item1/P120.html ? Lists Joao , born to Manuel Azevedo and Maria Joaquina - which I have in my database - I don't have Joao listed, I only had his brother (I believe) Antonio Matos Azevedo Diogo b. July 3, 1831 in Manadas ? Can anyone read the dates on the birth record? ? Maggie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Barbara Manadas, Sao Jorge
Robin, you are reading the date correctely, they are only up to 1819. Maybe someone on the list knows the reason? Hope you will find your Jose Bettencourt. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Besotes To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:30 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Barbara Manadas, Sao Jorge Hello Rosemarie! Am I reading the link correctly and that they latest dates for these records are from 1801 to 1819? I'm seeking the records for birth/baptisms in Manadas for my Great-Grandfather, Joseph Bettencourt. His middle initial was A. My Grandmother said it was for Ames, but we're thinking possibily Avila. We're hoping his baptisim will confirm it. PS: Has anyone heard if the restoration of the Santa Barbara church is completed? Thank you Rosemarie for providing this information. Robin Borba Besotes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Ignacio Machado
Just thought this was odd: In Manadas Baptismal Records, image #5, lower right hand page, 1801--1819: Antonio born to Manuel Ignacio Machado of Nossa Senhora das Neves, Norte Grande and his wife Anna Silveira of Topo! I just thought someone might be looking for either of these two in Norte Grande and Topo and here they are having a child baptised in Manadas!! Rosemarie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fw: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 'Janela' family members
Hello, Gotta be related! My grandfather's grandfather was Manuel Machado Ávila. Janela family has lived in Beira for generations. Australia Hotel owner fascinating clue. I'll check it out, Thanks so much, Mike On Oct 29, 1:20 pm, Ed Betty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine named Isidore Machado nickname is Janela from Beira, Sao Jorge. Settled near Sacramento, CA. Isidore lived in Lemoore. A few years back I went to that village. Owner of the Australia Hotel was from Beira. He knew the people nicknamed Janela were from there. Thanks, picoeddie. - Original Message - From: nancy jean baptiste To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:35 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 'Janela' family members Hi Yolanda, Do you live in Beira? I went to Beira, Sao Jorge this summer and took pictures of the town and church for my Mom because my ggrandfather Jose Pereira was from there as was my other ggrandfather Jose Victorino Bettincourt. I haven't found their baptismal records yet but anxiously wait for the Velas records to come on line. I found Beira to be a beautiful village and the people very gracious. Should I post some pictures? Best regards, Nancy Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:17:27 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 'Janela' family members hello mike i am from beira, velas and i dont know that name. i will ask to my oldest family menbers. 2008/10/27 michael geniella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interested in any information relating to Janelas, especially their ties to Beira/Velas on Sao Jorge. My grandfather's formal name was Joam Pereira Pires. Thanks, Mike Geniella (the immigration service's version) br --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Barbara Manadas, Sao Jorge
Thank you Kathy! It worked! On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Kathy Cardoza wrote: Mary I'm able to access the records using Safari or Firefox on my Mac. You SHOULD be able to, also. Try this: Go to the Safari menu in the upper left corner of your screen and choose Empty Cache from the menu. Sometimes that helps to reset Safari or any web browser. Quit Safari and relaunch it. Try again and hopefully it will work for you. Good luck! Kathy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Linguicia
For some reason, I did not get the recipe even though I followed up with an email. Things happen, good intentions get sidelined. Who knows? But I still need the recipe. So if anyone else has a linguicia recipe, I would sure appreciate it! Out of over 400 list members, I am hoping at least one will be able to help. Charlene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: phrase in marriage certificate
Maria Elena, I agree that it looks like the year is 1790 but if there is any question in your mind, what I would do is look at the records before and after your record and this should clear up any questions. I often so this when I am looking at the old records and usually you can find one nearby that will be clear on the year, or month that might be illegible on your particular record. Susan Vargas Murphy On Nov 1, 9:43 pm, Cheri Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although more unusual to be born 8 years later, but a possibility. Double check for any missing kids and then just chalk it up to the bride having a hard time getting pregnant. Cheri First born child; Born 7 years after her parents' marriage --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado CD
Carlos Machado CD you can call Father Viveiros good time to call after 9:30 Am before 2 PM or after 8Pm before 10PM On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Charlene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone on the list purchased this CD? I have the address and phone number, but have not been able to reach anyone. If you know what the cost is, I can mail away the check and order the CD. Thanks Charlene -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado CD
Thanks George, I will do that. I appreciate the reply. Charlene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Barbara Manadas, Sao Jorge
Mary You're very welcome! Glad I could help. Kathy * Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html * On Nov 2, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Mary Bordi wrote: Thank you Kathy! It worked! On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Kathy Cardoza wrote: Mary I'm able to access the records using Safari or Firefox on my Mac. You SHOULD be able to, also. Try this: Go to the Safari menu in the upper left corner of your screen and choose Empty Cache from the menu. Sometimes that helps to reset Safari or any web browser. Quit Safari and relaunch it. Try again and hopefully it will work for you. Good luck! Kathy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Linguicia
Hello Charlene, As Elaine stated you can google to find several recipes for Linguica. The Portuguese Hawaiian style and a variety from various regions of Portugal. I personally didn't like the Hawaiian version. Here are three I just found, one from northeast Portugal. Costco in San Marcos, CA was selling the Silva's brand until recently and I guess it wasn't a big seller for them. I tried promoting it everytime I was in there (LOL) hoping they wouldn't stop selling it but they did and now I'm almost out. Going to have to try them myself. My aunt just passed away and I am the one going through all her things. My grandfather was a chef as was several other Portuguese relatives so I'm hoping to find some of our Portuguese family recipes. I remember her telling me she had one for linguica. Anyway, for now hopefully the following will help. Michelle *This one is from Montanhas:* INGREDIENTS 2 pounds boneless pork 1/8 teaspoon cinnamon 1 tablespoon vinegar 1 teaspoon salt 4 garlic cloves, mashed 1/4 teaspoon pepper 1/8 teaspoon cumin 1 teaspoon paprika Trim excess fat from meat. Chop meat into 1/4 inch cubes. Set aside. Combine vinegar, garlic, cumin, cinnamon, salt, pepper and paprika in a large bowl. Add 2-1/2 cups water and mix thoroughly. Add meat, cover and refrigerate 2 days, stirring occasionally to blend flavors. Drain liquid from meat and squeeze meat in dry towel to remove as much moisture as possible. Fry meat mixture in ungreased fry pan 8 minutes until lightly browned and crumbly. May be stuffed in clean casing for sausage or used in bulk. *Homemade Linguica Emeril Lagasse, 2001 * 2 1/2 pounds pork butt, cut into 1/2-inch pieces 1 tablespoon minced garlic 1 tablespoon salt 2 tablespoons paprika 1 teaspoon freshly ground white pepper 1 teaspoon dried oregano or marjoram 3/4 teaspoon sugar 1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper 1/2 teaspoon crushed red pepper 1 tablespoon red wine or apple cider vinegar 1 teaspoon vegetable oil Combine the pork, garlic, salt, paprika, white pepper, oregano, sugar, black pepper and red pepper in a large bowl and mix well. Pass through a food grinder fitted with a coarse die. (Alternately, transfer in 2 batches to a food processor and process until finely ground.) Transfer to a large bowl, cover tightly with plastic wrap, and refrigerate overnight. Add the vinegar to the meat and stir well to combine. To test the seasoning, heat the oil in a small skillet, and cook about 2 teaspoons of the mixture. Adjust seasoning, to taste. Form the meat into patties. Preheat a home smoker to 250 degrees F. Smoke the sausage for 1 1/2 hours. Remove from the smoker and use as desired. *Portuguese tapas bar in San Francisco, near Fisherman's* *Wharf, in 1979* It differs considerably from traditional linguica in that it calls for sherry (a Spanish wine) rather than vinegar, and its only spices are salt and paprika. The mix should be very coarsely-ground. We use a 3/4 plate on our grinder. As for the sherry, avoid cheap cooking brands. We favor Harvey's Bristol Cream, which is rich, sweet and full-bodied, but you can experiment with other types, although dry sherries give the sausage an unpleasant, flat taste. Or try a good Port, which will, at least, be Portuguese. Stuff into hog casings. When made with Harvey's Bristol Cream, the taste is unique and absolutely unforgettable. • Ground pork: 1 lb. • Coarse salt: 1/2 teaspoon • Dark sherry: 2 ounces • Paprika 1-1/8 tablespoon On 11/2/08, Charlene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason, I did not get the recipe even though I followed up with an email. Things happen, good intentions get sidelined. Who knows? But I still need the recipe. So if anyone else has a linguicia recipe, I would sure appreciate it! Out of over 400 list members, I am hoping at least one will be able to help. Charlene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: looking for da Ponte family fro m Povoação
Thanks so much! This really helps with the other side of the line I'm researching. Now I'm able to take that part of the tree a few more generations back. Thanks again! ---Matt --- On Sat, 11/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: looking for da Ponte family from Povoação To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 7:30 AM In a message dated 10/31/2008 9:54:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone, I've traced my da Ponte line back to my 6th great-grandfather Domingos da Ponte, born in Povoação (N.S. Mãe de Deus) in November 1726, son of Martinho da Ponte and Suzana de Medeiros. Any of these names sound familiar? Does anyone have the da Ponte lineage going back further than this? Any help would be appreciated. The family moved quite often from one generation to the next, from Povoação to Maia to Rabo de Peixe to Fajã de Baixo to Fajã de Cima, nearly a different freguesia for each generation! Thanks in advance! Maybe this will help. 1 - Henrique Bulhão, (Nota N.º 1). Casou com Leonor Vaz. Tiveram: 2 - Amador Vaz Bulhão, lavrador e morador na Ribeira Grande segundo se vê da escritura citada na Nota N.º 1. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira Grande a 6.12.1581 com Maria de Paiva Tiveram: 3 - Manuel de Paiva Bulhão, ou Manuel de Paiva de Melo Bulhão, morador na Ribeirinha. Casou em S. Pedro da Ribeira Grande a 18.11.1619 com Beatriz Rebelo, filha de Gaspar Rebelo e Isabel Lopes. Tiveram: 4 - Margarida Botelho, moradora com o marido na Ribeirinha. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira Grande a 6.1.1649 com Manuel de Oliveira, filho de Francisco Lopes e Maria de Oliveira. Tiveram: 5 - Ana de Rocha, casou na Maia a 1.4.1690 com Francisco Correia de Simas, filho de Francisco de Simas da Lomba da Maia e de Maria da Costa Tiveram: 6 - José Correia de Simas, que casou na Maia a 5.6.1726 com Antónia Pacheco (Cap.º 367.º § 1.º, N.º 5). Tiveram: 7 - Maria Correia, ou Pacheco, que casou na Maia a 7.7.1749 com Domingos da Ponte Leite, da Povoação, filho de Martim da Ponte e Susana de Medeiros. Tiveram: 8 - Francisca da Ponte, que casou na Maia a 11.10.1779 com João Moniz Pereira 8 - Manuel da Ponte Pacheco, que segue: 8 - João da Ponte, que casou na Maia a 18.2.1789 com Joana do Amaral ( 8 - Maria Francisca da Ponte, que casou na Maia a 15.4.1790 com Pedro Luís Tavares, filho de Maria Tavares e pai incógnito. 8 - Antónia da Ponte, que casou na Maia a 5.2.1794 com Pedro da Costa, da freguesia de S. Pedro da Ribeira Grande filho de Manuel da Costa e Maria da Ressurreição. 8 - Manuel da Ponte Pacheco, casou na Maia a 17.3.1790 com Maria de Sousa, ( Tiveram: 9 - José da Ponte Pacheco da Assunção, que segue: 9 - Manuel Pacheco Estrela, que casou na Maia a 10.6.1818 com Maria Rosa, filha de António Moniz Pacheco e Maria de Sousa. 9 - Barbara Jacinta, que casou na Ponta Garça a 17.3.1833 com António de Matos Pacheco 9 - José da Ponte Pacheco da Assunção, casou em Ponta Garça a 25.10.1819 com Antónia Jacinta, filha de Francisco de Mendonça e Francisca de Macedo. Tiveram: 10 -António João Ponte, que segue: 10 -Fortunato da Ponte, que casou em Ponta Garça a 22.12.1832 com Antónia Jacinta filha de Manuel Francisco de Medeiros e Ana de Jesus. 10 -Mariana Jacinta, que casou em Ponta Garça a 20.10.1833 com Laureano Furtado, das Furnas, filho de António Furtado e Inácia Maria. 10 -António João da Ponte, casou em Ponta Garça a 11.4.1847 com Leonor Maria, filha de Manuel Francisco de Medeiros e Ana de Jesus. 1 - Pedro Esteves da Rocha Machado, ou Machado e Rocha, natural de Viana donde veio para a Madeira e de lá para a esta Ilha de S. Miguel por ter cometido um homicídio. Morou na Praia, junto a Vila Franca (Vid. Frutuosos, Liv.º IV Cap.º XXV, e nobiliário de famílias de Portugal por Felgueiras Gaio, titulo Rochas, Tomo IX pág. 155). Ignora-se com quem casou Foi seu filho: 2 - Afonso Anes da Rocha Machado, que numa justificação sentenciada a 3.8.1792 a favor de Maria Eugenia Rebelo da Silveira, aparece casado com Marta Pavoa, filha de Afonso Rodrigues Pavão . O que na mesma justificação é provado por testemunhas. Tiveram: 3 - Pedro Afonso da Rocha, (Vid. Frutuoso Liv.º IV Cap.º XXV § V). Casou com Margarida Afonso, que parece ser filha de Francisco Anes da Praia (Cap.º 8.º § Único, N.º 2), pelo que diz Frutuosos no Liv.º IV Cap.º XXV § IV, onde ela vem como neta de Afonso Anes da Rocha e Beatriz Pires, mulher de João Gonçalves Caldeira e filha destes Pedro Afonso da Rocha e Margarida Afonso. Tiveram: 4 - Duarte Pires da Rocha, eleito escrivão da Misericórdia da Ribeira Grande de 1594. Era cavaleiro, como se vê de uma escritura de 12.10.1558 nas notas de António Álvares, em que comprou três moios de
[AZORES-Genealogy] Thanks Re: Linguicia and to CHERI
The recipes look really good. I hope that my Church friend picks one and lets me taste it! She is quite a garden planting, food storage, dry herbs, onions, garlic, and all things that can be dehydrated. So she is doing sausages and loves linguicia. A big thanks to Michelle and Elaine, too, as well as Stan, if I did not say before. It is nice that you all care enough to help out with something as little as this, for me. Lots of recipes to choose from. Mary Ann, I sent you email privately but will say again, hope that you are feeling better. Thanks for checking in and following up even though you are not 100% feeling okay. Michelle, I am very sorry about your aunt and please accept my sympathy as you go through her personal effects. That can be a mixed blessing, and an honor all rolled in to one. November is a time of being mindful of blessings and I am very grateful for CHERI and all that she has done for this list and for the many times she has helped me in family history related issues. Charlene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
