[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rodas
In a message dated 4/2/2009 11:36:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, researchp...@gmail.com writes: n the book, Azores, Nine Islands, it talks about Rodas or Casas da Roda, where a baby could be left anonymously, much as we now have safe houses in the United States, when someone gives up a baby. It states that most municipalities in the second half of the 19th century had these places. The baby was then raised by a nannie to age 7 years, paid by the government. Having a registry of nannies was begun during the 16th century. Does anyone know of this custom? Did the registries record the babies somehow, or were they just keeping track of the nannies? If the babies were anonymous, that meant they weren't baptised or given names? The book says that the total surpassed 1,000 babies (probably a total of all the municipalities, though it does not say) that were cared for in this way in 1858. In 1879 this strategy was abandoned and the mothers were paid to keep and care for the children. After this, there were many fewer babies abandoned. That must have been such a terrible situation for families, no wonder they left the Islands. That is a lot of children to not be accounted for, so I wonder if there was some record or if anyone knows. Char Each baby was registered, baptized, and given a name. In some of the larger churches is there is actually a separate book for Expostos. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fwd: Felgueiras_Gaio_published
Sam, They are ms word (.doc) files within zip files. You need to use PKunzip, winzip or winRAR to open them. Most of the programs are free for at least a trial period. Once you open them in MS Word, you can do a search for names. Cheryl From: Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sam Koester Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:54 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fwd: Felgueiras_Gaio_published Help please, I’ve downloaded these to files to “my files” in mediafire but; I can’t seem to figure out how to get them to open?? Sam in CA From: Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of SARMENTO Natalia Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:00 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re : [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fwd: Felgueiras_Gaio_published Hello, You can download the 2 volumes of FG using the following links: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ttlyycmqmxm/FG1.zip http://www.mediafir e.com/file/ ttlyycmqmxm/ FG1..zip http://www.mediafire.com/file/hdyawqwzdl1/FG2.zip http://www.mediafir e.com/file/ hdyawqwzdl1/ FG2..zip Good luck. Natalia Sarmento. --- En date de : Jeu 2.4.09, Maria Sousa lelaso...@verizon.net a écrit : De: Maria Sousa lelaso...@verizon.net Objet: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fwd: Felgueiras_Gaio_published À: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Jeudi 2 Avril 2009, 16h31 Kathy, This is interesting. I followed the link and it states it is the first volume of a series. I am assuming this volume covers the Abreu families. Are other volumes coming and do they relate to other surnames or families? Maria Sousa --- On Fri, 3/27/09, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com wrote: From: Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Felgueiras_Gaio_published To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:31 AM Hello everyone I received this info the other day and thought I'd pass it along: I am glad to inform you that the first volume of the English collection of Felgueiras Gaio´s work has been published by the Genealogical Publishing Company in the USA. More details about it can be found at the following address: http://www.genealogical.com/products/Noble%20Families%20of%20Portugal%20%5BV olume%20One%5D%20Abreu/9933.html http://www.genealogical..com/products/Noble%20Families%20of%20Portugal%20%5 BVolume%20One%5D%20Abreu/9933.html I would greatly appreciate if you could inform your fellow genealogists about this book, especially those interested in Portuguese and Spanish families. Thank you and regards, Luís Pontes. ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html Climb my Family Tree: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Kathy/index.htm ~~~ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Vale a pena ouvir;está o máximo
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
Hi Christine, Ignes Pereira Macedo and Francisco Costa Goulart are also my 5th great- grandparents on my grandmother's side. My line is from their daughter Rita Inacia Macedo who is Catharina sister. Like you, I also can't find anything about Francisco or Apolonia. Francisco Costa Goulart is also on my grandfathers line, when he was married to Catherina Dias Machado. Their daughter Maria Gularte married Manuel Costa Medeiros in Candelaria in 1721. I'm also interested in the Brazil information. I'm just starting my Step-Dad's family. His mother Ana Jesus was born in Brazil and moved with her parents Antonio Silveira Machado and Ana Jesus to Ribeirinha,Terceira. Ana married Antone Machado Coelho in Ribeirinha before they immigrated to California.I have very little information because my dad's mother died when he was a young boy. Regards, Pam Coelho fuji...@sbcglobal.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Shirley's 6890 X 6891
John: I am interested in other info that you have. If you will email me privately, I will be glad to share what I have. (There are just too many chit chat emails on the list.) Shirley - Original Message - From: marra...@cs.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Shirley's 6890 X 6891 In a message dated 9/10/2008 12:19:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: There's something weird with this John. Shirley and I talked about this the other day. Shirley did find a record on 7 Oct 1586 for a Bart. Rodrigues whoever and an Anna in Nordeste. I believe she looked on that date because of what was in Rodrigo Rodrigues (not that any book will be 100% accurate). However, when Shirley pulled the film, most of that record has that wash put over it, so when it was filmed, it became all blacked out. She sent an email to Eliseu to see if he had any time on his next visit to the Biblioteca to view the actual book to see what it really says. It sounds like there are two Barts married to two Annas. I'm not sure, but this info might also be in Familias Antigas de Povoacao. I think it's good to go to the actual source, so it will be good to see what Shirley finds off of the original record from the date you gave. Cheri That Wash, is just a chemical reaction of the ink and the paper acid. It shows up black on the film, but the originals in the archives are perfectly legible. Let me know what Shirley finds. I also left out some info. There were notes about wills, deeds and bequests that confirmed the relationships of these people. If shirley is interested I can give her this info. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Advice - Information on Immigration From Azores to...
John Judi I hope that you don't mind if I use some of this information on Manuel de Medeiros Chaves, c. Francisca Candida Feb.18, 1875 and possibly more for although distantly I am connected to her. Hermano From: jude2...@msn.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Advice - Information on Immigration From Azores to... Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:20:38 -0400 John, I apologize for the confusion. I meant I could not find a record of his arrival. You blew my mind when I read your email. I didn't think anyone else had any information on this family. I thank you for all the time and trouble you went to in order to help. Judi From: marra...@cs.com Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:46:25 -0400 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Advice - Information on Immigration From Azores to... To: Azores@googlegroups.com In a message dated 3/31/2009 12:24:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jude2...@msn.com writes: Hi E, His name was Manuel Medeiros Chaves, born 1882 in Capelas, Sao Miguel. He would have arrived around 1900 either on a passenger ship or a whaler. I can't find him anywhere. Thanks for asking. Judi I thought this might help. This has to be your grandfather's family although where he fits in will require more work. Rehards! John Modified Register for Manuel Cabral First Generation 1. Manuel Cabral was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Manuel married Vitoria Francisca . Vitoria was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. They had the following children: + 2 M i. Manuel Medeiros Chaves . Second Generation 2. Manuel Medeiros Chaves (Manuel) was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Manuel married (1) Maria Antonia daughter of Sebastiao Travassos and Ana Maria on 13 Feb 1809 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Maria was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. They had the following children: + 3 M i. Antonio Medeiros Chaves . + 4 M ii. Jose Medeiros Chaves . Manuel married (2) Antonia Faustina daughter of Jose de Sousa Machado and Catarina dos Santos Oliveira on 6 Dec 1788 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Antonia was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Third Generation 3. Antonio Medeiros Chaves (Manuel Medeiros Chaves, Manuel) was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Antonio married Vitoria de Jesus daughter of Manuel Sousa Soares and Maria de Jesus on 19 Feb 1840 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Vitoria was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. They had the following children: + 5 M i. Jose Medeiros Chaves . 6 M ii. Jose was born in 1840 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. He died on 9 May 1842 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. + 7 F iii. Maria da Encarnacao . 8 M iv. Joao was born in May 1842 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. 9 M v. Manuel was born on 15 Apr 1843 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. + 10 M vi. Joao de Medeiros Chaves was born on 29 Sep 1845. 4. Jose Medeiros Chaves (Manuel Medeiros Chaves, Manuel) was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Jose married Maria Candida da Conceição daughter of Manuel Sousa Soares and Maria de Jesus on 3 May 1843 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Maria was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. They had the following children: + 11 F i. Maria de Jesus was born in 1853. + 12 M ii. Manuel de Medeiros Chaves . + 13 M iii. Jose de Medeiros Chaves was born on 3 Aug 1848. 14 M iv. Antonio was born on 5 Nov 1850 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. 15 M v. Joaquim was born on 5 Mar 1866 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Fourth Generation 5. Jose Medeiros Chaves (Antonio Medeiros Chaves, Manuel Medeiros Chaves, Manuel) was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Jose married Maria de Jesus daughter of Jose Medeiros Chaves and Maria Candida da Conceição on 1 Jul 1875 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Maria was born in 1853 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. They had the following children: 16 M i. Manuel was born on 11 Feb 1876 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. 17 M ii. Antonio was born on 5 Dec 1878 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. He was christened on 15 Dec 1878 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. He died on 24 Dec 1878 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. 18 M iii. Joao was born on 23 Jul 1880 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. He was christened in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. He died on 6 Jun 1881 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. 7. Maria da Encarnacao (Antonio Medeiros Chaves, Manuel Medeiros Chaves, Manuel) was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Maria married Jose de Arruda son of Jacinto de Arruda and Francisca de Jesus. Jose was born in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. They had the following children: 19 F i. Helena was born on 19 Jul 1877 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. She was christened on 27 Jul 1877 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. 10. Joao de Medeiros Chaves (Antonio Medeiros Chaves, Manuel Medeiros Chaves, Manuel) was born on 29 Sep 1845 in Capelas, São Miguel, Açores. Joao married Maria Isabel daughter of Manuel Tavares Pacheco and Maria Isabel in
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Advice - Information on Immigration From Azores to...
In a message dated 4/3/2009 5:54:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lagoe...@hotmail.com writes: John Judi I hope that you don't mind if I use some of this information on Manuel de Medeiros Chaves, c. Francisca Candida Feb.18, 1875 and possibly more for although distantly I am connected to her. Hermano Dear Hermano, One of the purposes of the list is the free exchange of information. Please feel to use any of my information and incorporate it into your data base. However, please share whatever additional information you have with us. Um abraço! John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fw: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DeMello book
Sometimes I begin to think that some of our relatives were under the witness protection program. There is absolute nothing of their backgrounds. --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Vivian Christy vchris1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vivian Christy vchris1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DeMello book To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 7:38 PM Dolores, My Great Grandparents are also from Sao Jorge and I have not been able to find out anything on them either. Not coming into this country or the children being born. Have not found anything yet on the Sao Jorge records yet either. They just appeared in San Luis Obispo, San Jose, Oakland, Santa Clara and Hanford. It is a big mystery. I'll keep searching maybe something will show up sometime. I am sure we all have some of the same stories about our Azorean Relatives. I thought your story about what your grand mother said was cute. Sincerely, Vivian (Silva) Christy --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Dolores Coyle dolores.co...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dolores Coyle dolores.co...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DeMello book To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 6:43 AM I understand your search. My Great Grandparents from Sao Jorges, seem to have spontaneously generated in 1880 onto Commercial Street in Boston with three children. No records before that of any of them anywhere-including the three children that I'm about 99.9% sure were born in the US. I joke with my family that we just materialized from the Gods and Royalty, like my Grandmother always implied. Good Luck. I work for Temple University's Library, so I have access to a number of resources. Let me know if you need any help-it may be a long shot, but we may have it, or at least access to it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
