[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: AZORES-Genealogy] Jose J. Pereira...Beira, Sao Jorge Translation

2009-06-22 Thread nancy jean baptiste

Dear Arline and Cheri,
 
I did look for other children born before my Jose.thus far I've found 2 of 
them a Marianna in 1831 and a Manoel in 1833...still looking for the first one 
then I'll search the marriage records but, Arline, the name Teixeira is 
correct. Manoel de Avila Teixeira, the other record says Manoel de Avilla de 
Teixeira. 
 
Thank you for help again!

 

Nancy
 






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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] AZORES-Genealogy] Jose J. Pereira...Beira, Sao 
Jorge Translation
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:19:07 -0400
From: sarab...@aol.com

Dear Nancy,
 I think the name following "Manoel de Avilla"  could be Teixeira. 
Arline Silveirq








I need help reading his mothers parents namesshe is Isabel de 
Jesusdaughter of Manoel ? de Avilla ? and Maria de Jesus...
 
Could someone help me with translation?
 
CCA...Velas baptisms.1821then to 1833-45 page # 73.2nd 
record...Jose son of Antonio Jose Pereira , son of Antonio Jose 
Pereiraperhaps that is why my ggrandfather Jose used the name Mancebo after 
Pereira in New Bedford.
 




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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts

2009-06-22 Thread carmen furtado
"E"

I think perhaps they settled in Plymouth first then moved to New Bedford - 
don't know what the Plymouth library did with the street lists - they always 
had them - will check next time i go there

thanks

carmen
 
    





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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts


Carmen,

Best I can tell these are 11 of the children of Luiz b. abt. 1856 and
Jacintha b. abt. 1858.  I looked in the 1907 New Bedford Directory,
which I have, and they are not listed there, maybe they were in
Plymouth or Fall River.  They are in NB in 1910?

Manuel Lourenco Bonito Viera b. ?
Francisco (Frank) b. abt. 1883
Maria da Gloria b. abt. 1886
Anna b. abt. 1891 (twin?)
Angelina (Evangeline ) b. abt. 1891(Twin)
Maria Jose b. abt. 1891
Filomena (Phoebe) b. abt. 1893
Joao Lourenco b. abt. 1894
Luiz Jr. b. abt. 1896
Alexandrina b. abt. 1899
Belmira (Mabel) b. abt. 1901

Don't know who the other 2 children are, probably born before Frank or
between a couple of the kids and/or deceased in infancy.  The ones on
the NY manifest in 1903 say they are going to their uncle Antonio Jno
Pao Puente? Columbia St., Fall River MA

"E"



  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT

2009-06-22 Thread Cheri Mello
(Announcement posted to Azores Genealogy as well as Island Routes)

Family Tree DNA is going to have a sale on the following combination kit
only (DNA testee must be a male):

• Y-DNA37+mtDNA for $119. (The regular project price is $248 – a reduction
of more than 50%!!)
   • The promotion will begin on June 9, 2009 and will end on June 24,
2009, 11:59pm CDT
   • Kits ordered in this sale must be paid for by June 30, 2009 (you
can mail the kit back after that date).

Order here:
http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands

Go down to the 3rd section titled "Combined Y-Chromosome and mtDNA tests"
and chose the Y-37 + mtDNA Plus.

If you were thinking about DNA for your non-Portuguese lines and would like
help on which group to order through, email me off list.

Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Administrator
Azores DNA

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[AZORES-Genealogy] First name Serafina - anyone aware of nicknames?

2009-06-22 Thread Jason Fraga
My Great Great Grandmother was Serafina Thomas, born Feb 1867 in Corvo.  Her 
formal name on all documents that I have shows up as "Serafina", but I noticed 
that in the Portuguese-speaking newspaper article (Diario de Noticias- New 
Bedford) that listed her obituary, they had her name as "Luiza".  

I'm 100% sure that I'm not looking at a different person (ie: a step GG 
Grandmother, etc) and everyone who might know what the story was is long gone.  
Is anyone aware of the interchangeability of those two names?  I'm stumped.

Best regards,

Jay Fraga
Massachusetts

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT

2009-06-22 Thread Lew White
I have not been active in this for some time but am still interested in
tracing my roots,  Currently I can trace to 18th/early 19th century in Sao
Miguel and Pico.  How will this help me ?  I know it's great for way back
migrations but how will it help me find individuals ?   If you could point
me somewhere where I can read this please do so.

 

Thanks.

 

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Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:54 PM
To: Azores Genealogy; islandrou...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT

 

(Announcement posted to Azores Genealogy as well as Island Routes)

Family Tree DNA is going to have a sale on the following combination kit
only (DNA testee must be a male):  

. Y-DNA37+mtDNA for $119. (The regular project price is $248 - a reduction
of more than 50%!!)
   . The promotion will begin on June 9, 2009 and will end on June 24,
2009, 11:59pm CDT
   . Kits ordered in this sale must be paid for by June 30, 2009 (you
can mail the kit back after that date).

Order here:
http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands

Go down to the 3rd section titled "Combined Y-Chromosome and mtDNA tests"
and chose the Y-37 + mtDNA Plus.

If you were thinking about DNA for your non-Portuguese lines and would like
help on which group to order through, email me off list.

Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Administrator
Azores DNA



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts

2009-06-22 Thread Elaine Sharp
Carmen,

 

 

Here is what I found on Manuel and Angeline and family:

 

Left Sao Miguel October 20, 1903, ship Cambroman, leaving Oct. 20, 1903
arriving Boston

 

No. 4 Manuel L. Bonito 23, going to brother in law Marianno G. Furtado,
Plymouth Cordage Co., Plymouth MA

Idalinda Jesus Bonito 20

Maria A. Bonito 4 mos.

Maria Augusta 50

Maria Theresa Costa 18, going to her father Jose Da Costa Hollyhock St. New
Bedford (seems to be traveling with them)

 

Can someone on the list please look up this record and help to read it as I
am not familiar enough with all the names, especially where they came from.

Passaportes - Ponta Delgada 1903-1905 > Livro1 > 0514 No. 900, toward
bottom of page

http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1903-1905/PPDL1903-1
905_item1/P23.html

 

Manuel Lourenco Bonito, 23,  parents Luiz Lourenco & Julia Costa,  R.
Quente

Idalina de Jesus 21, parents Jose Botelho & Maria de Carmo??

Maria, 4 mos, parent Manuel Lourenco Bonito

Maria de Jesus, 56, Jacintho de Teves & Ana de Jesus

Maria Thereze 17 (she seems to be traveling with them) does not list her
parents but see ship manifest

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT

2009-06-22 Thread Besotes
Cheri, could you tell me what the difference is between the Family Tree DNA and 
the Ancestry.com DNA that their offering for $79?  Would they be one in the 
same DNA tests or provide the same results for us lists members?

Thank you,
Robin Borba Besotes

Researching:  Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos
California Towns:  Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres 
Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy ; islandrou...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: 2009-06-22 13:54
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT


  (Announcement posted to Azores Genealogy as well as Island Routes)

  Family Tree DNA is going to have a sale on the following combination kit only 
(DNA testee must be a male):  

  • Y-DNA37+mtDNA for $119. (The regular project price is $248 – a reduction of 
more than 50%!!)
 • The promotion will begin on June 9, 2009 and will end on June 24, 
2009, 11:59pm CDT
 • Kits ordered in this sale must be paid for by June 30, 2009 (you can 
mail the kit back after that date).

  Order here:
  http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands

  Go down to the 3rd section titled "Combined Y-Chromosome and mtDNA tests" and 
chose the Y-37 + mtDNA Plus.

  If you were thinking about DNA for your non-Portuguese lines and would like 
help on which group to order through, email me off list.

  Cheri Mello
  Family Tree DNA Administrator
  Azores DNA


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts

2009-06-22 Thread Cheri Mello
They came from Ribeira Quente.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT

2009-06-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Lew,

How will what help you?  Tracing to the 18th and early 19th century or DNA?
If it's DNA you can read up on it on the Azores Genweb (I did a book report
on "Trace Your Roots with DNA"):
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/dna.html

Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Administrator
Azores DNA

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: First name Serafina - anyone aware of nicknames?

2009-06-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Jay,

I didn't think that Serafina and Luiza were interchangable.  I thought Luiza
was probably Portuguese for Louise.  Don't know what Serafina is though.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT

2009-06-22 Thread Cheri Mello
The difference between FTDNA and Ancestry is mostly nomenclature.

Take the marker that the geneticists call 464.  It's a multicopy maker.
Most men have 4 copies of it.  The geneticists call it 464a, 464b, 464c, and
464d.  Since there's 4 copies of it, it gets counted 4 times.  Some men have
an extra rare copy or two of that maker.  (The geneticists call it 464e and
464f).  If FTDNA finds it, they report it to the testee.  Because it's rare,
they don't label it in their count.  Ancestry counts it and reports it back
as a 0 or null.

>From Max Blankfeld, Vice President, Family Tree DNA:
A "37-marker test could also be called a “41-marker test” as we do test and
report markers 464e, 464f, 464g, and DYS19b.  Though we test them, it is
very rare that individuals have results for these markers. Therefore, by our
conservative counting method, our competitor's “33-marker test” is actually
a “29-marker test.” We mention this to make sure that you understand the
difference
between these tests and are able to compare “apples to apples.”

Different companies will test a couple of different markers than the
competition.

Family Tree DNA is the oldest and largest DNA testing company.  Its sole
focus is DNA only.  They have things set up in projects (I think Ancestry
may have that feature finally) and FTDNA makes it easy for admins to manage
the projects.  FTDNA has live help in Texas too.

The Azores Project, housed at FTDNA, has 178 members with 164 kits
returned.  Portugal has 183 members, but I don't know how many kits
returned.  Madeira has 59 members and Cape Verde has 47.  If you are in the
Azores (or Madeira or Cape Verde) you can also join the Portugal project, if
you like.  You can have your DNA compared against only those members in the
project or against the entire FTDNA database (249,503 members).  You can
have your DNA uploaded to a public database (YSearch.org or MitoSearch.org)
to compare against other companies (Ancestry.com, Oxford Ancestors, etc).

A comparison chart of the various companies for Y-DNA can be found here:
http://www.isogg.org/ydnachart.htm
A comparison chart of the various companies for mitochondrial (mt) DNA can
be found here: http://www.isogg.org/mtdnachart.htm

Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Adminstrator
Azores DNA

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: First name Serafina - anyone aware of nicknames?

2009-06-22 Thread Duane De Mello
My grandmother was Luiza, aka Lousia.  One of her daughters was a Serafina,
aka Sadie, aka Fina.
Cheers, Duane

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Jay,
>
> I didn't think that Serafina and Luiza were interchangable.  I thought
> Luiza was probably Portuguese for Louise.  Don't know what Serafina is
> though.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
> Achada
>
> >
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: First name Serafina - anyone aware of nicknames?

2009-06-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Jay,

I've come across the same problem on a few ads from the DN of New Bedford
regarding my uncle and cousin, which in my case  seem to be due to editing
errors by the newspaper.

Regards,

Margaret



On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Jason Fraga wrote:

>  My Great Great Grandmother was Serafina Thomas, born Feb 1867 in Corvo.
> Her formal name on all documents that I have shows up as "Serafina", but I
> noticed that in the Portuguese-speaking newspaper article (Diario de
> Noticias- New Bedford) that listed her obituary, they had her name as
> "Luiza".
>
> I'm 100% sure that I'm not looking at a different person (ie: a step GG
> Grandmother, etc) and everyone who might know what the story was is long
> gone.  Is anyone aware of the interchangeability of those two names?  I'm
> stumped.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jay Fraga
> Massachusetts
>
>
> >
>

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