[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: AZORES-Genealogy] Jose J. Pereira...Beira, Sao Jorge Translation
Dear Arline and Cheri, I did look for other children born before my Jose.thus far I've found 2 of them a Marianna in 1831 and a Manoel in 1833...still looking for the first one then I'll search the marriage records but, Arline, the name Teixeira is correct. Manoel de Avila Teixeira, the other record says Manoel de Avilla de Teixeira. Thank you for help again! Nancy To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] AZORES-Genealogy] Jose J. Pereira...Beira, Sao Jorge Translation Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:19:07 -0400 From: sarab...@aol.com Dear Nancy, I think the name following "Manoel de Avilla" could be Teixeira. Arline Silveirq I need help reading his mothers parents namesshe is Isabel de Jesusdaughter of Manoel ? de Avilla ? and Maria de Jesus... Could someone help me with translation? CCA...Velas baptisms.1821then to 1833-45 page # 73.2nd record...Jose son of Antonio Jose Pereira , son of Antonio Jose Pereiraperhaps that is why my ggrandfather Jose used the name Mancebo after Pereira in New Bedford. A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts
"E" I think perhaps they settled in Plymouth first then moved to New Bedford - don't know what the Plymouth library did with the street lists - they always had them - will check next time i go there thanks carmen From: ""E" Sharp" To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:17:58 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts Carmen, Best I can tell these are 11 of the children of Luiz b. abt. 1856 and Jacintha b. abt. 1858. I looked in the 1907 New Bedford Directory, which I have, and they are not listed there, maybe they were in Plymouth or Fall River. They are in NB in 1910? Manuel Lourenco Bonito Viera b. ? Francisco (Frank) b. abt. 1883 Maria da Gloria b. abt. 1886 Anna b. abt. 1891 (twin?) Angelina (Evangeline ) b. abt. 1891(Twin) Maria Jose b. abt. 1891 Filomena (Phoebe) b. abt. 1893 Joao Lourenco b. abt. 1894 Luiz Jr. b. abt. 1896 Alexandrina b. abt. 1899 Belmira (Mabel) b. abt. 1901 Don't know who the other 2 children are, probably born before Frank or between a couple of the kids and/or deceased in infancy. The ones on the NY manifest in 1903 say they are going to their uncle Antonio Jno Pao Puente? Columbia St., Fall River MA "E" --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT
(Announcement posted to Azores Genealogy as well as Island Routes) Family Tree DNA is going to have a sale on the following combination kit only (DNA testee must be a male): • Y-DNA37+mtDNA for $119. (The regular project price is $248 – a reduction of more than 50%!!) • The promotion will begin on June 9, 2009 and will end on June 24, 2009, 11:59pm CDT • Kits ordered in this sale must be paid for by June 30, 2009 (you can mail the kit back after that date). Order here: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands Go down to the 3rd section titled "Combined Y-Chromosome and mtDNA tests" and chose the Y-37 + mtDNA Plus. If you were thinking about DNA for your non-Portuguese lines and would like help on which group to order through, email me off list. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator Azores DNA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] First name Serafina - anyone aware of nicknames?
My Great Great Grandmother was Serafina Thomas, born Feb 1867 in Corvo. Her formal name on all documents that I have shows up as "Serafina", but I noticed that in the Portuguese-speaking newspaper article (Diario de Noticias- New Bedford) that listed her obituary, they had her name as "Luiza". I'm 100% sure that I'm not looking at a different person (ie: a step GG Grandmother, etc) and everyone who might know what the story was is long gone. Is anyone aware of the interchangeability of those two names? I'm stumped. Best regards, Jay Fraga Massachusetts --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT
I have not been active in this for some time but am still interested in tracing my roots, Currently I can trace to 18th/early 19th century in Sao Miguel and Pico. How will this help me ? I know it's great for way back migrations but how will it help me find individuals ? If you could point me somewhere where I can read this please do so. Thanks. _ From: Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:54 PM To: Azores Genealogy; islandrou...@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT (Announcement posted to Azores Genealogy as well as Island Routes) Family Tree DNA is going to have a sale on the following combination kit only (DNA testee must be a male): . Y-DNA37+mtDNA for $119. (The regular project price is $248 - a reduction of more than 50%!!) . The promotion will begin on June 9, 2009 and will end on June 24, 2009, 11:59pm CDT . Kits ordered in this sale must be paid for by June 30, 2009 (you can mail the kit back after that date). Order here: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands Go down to the 3rd section titled "Combined Y-Chromosome and mtDNA tests" and chose the Y-37 + mtDNA Plus. If you were thinking about DNA for your non-Portuguese lines and would like help on which group to order through, email me off list. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator Azores DNA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts
Carmen, Here is what I found on Manuel and Angeline and family: Left Sao Miguel October 20, 1903, ship Cambroman, leaving Oct. 20, 1903 arriving Boston No. 4 Manuel L. Bonito 23, going to brother in law Marianno G. Furtado, Plymouth Cordage Co., Plymouth MA Idalinda Jesus Bonito 20 Maria A. Bonito 4 mos. Maria Augusta 50 Maria Theresa Costa 18, going to her father Jose Da Costa Hollyhock St. New Bedford (seems to be traveling with them) Can someone on the list please look up this record and help to read it as I am not familiar enough with all the names, especially where they came from. Passaportes - Ponta Delgada 1903-1905 > Livro1 > 0514 No. 900, toward bottom of page http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1903-1905/PPDL1903-1 905_item1/P23.html Manuel Lourenco Bonito, 23, parents Luiz Lourenco & Julia Costa, R. Quente Idalina de Jesus 21, parents Jose Botelho & Maria de Carmo?? Maria, 4 mos, parent Manuel Lourenco Bonito Maria de Jesus, 56, Jacintho de Teves & Ana de Jesus Maria Thereze 17 (she seems to be traveling with them) does not list her parents but see ship manifest "E" --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT
Cheri, could you tell me what the difference is between the Family Tree DNA and the Ancestry.com DNA that their offering for $79? Would they be one in the same DNA tests or provide the same results for us lists members? Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores Genealogy ; islandrou...@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-06-22 13:54 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT (Announcement posted to Azores Genealogy as well as Island Routes) Family Tree DNA is going to have a sale on the following combination kit only (DNA testee must be a male): • Y-DNA37+mtDNA for $119. (The regular project price is $248 – a reduction of more than 50%!!) • The promotion will begin on June 9, 2009 and will end on June 24, 2009, 11:59pm CDT • Kits ordered in this sale must be paid for by June 30, 2009 (you can mail the kit back after that date). Order here: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands Go down to the 3rd section titled "Combined Y-Chromosome and mtDNA tests" and chose the Y-37 + mtDNA Plus. If you were thinking about DNA for your non-Portuguese lines and would like help on which group to order through, email me off list. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator Azores DNA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: VIERA FAMILY in New Bedford, Massachusetts
They came from Ribeira Quente. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT
Hi Lew, How will what help you? Tracing to the 18th and early 19th century or DNA? If it's DNA you can read up on it on the Azores Genweb (I did a book report on "Trace Your Roots with DNA"): http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/dna.html Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator Azores DNA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: First name Serafina - anyone aware of nicknames?
Jay, I didn't think that Serafina and Luiza were interchangable. I thought Luiza was probably Portuguese for Louise. Don't know what Serafina is though. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT
The difference between FTDNA and Ancestry is mostly nomenclature. Take the marker that the geneticists call 464. It's a multicopy maker. Most men have 4 copies of it. The geneticists call it 464a, 464b, 464c, and 464d. Since there's 4 copies of it, it gets counted 4 times. Some men have an extra rare copy or two of that maker. (The geneticists call it 464e and 464f). If FTDNA finds it, they report it to the testee. Because it's rare, they don't label it in their count. Ancestry counts it and reports it back as a 0 or null. >From Max Blankfeld, Vice President, Family Tree DNA: A "37-marker test could also be called a “41-marker test” as we do test and report markers 464e, 464f, 464g, and DYS19b. Though we test them, it is very rare that individuals have results for these markers. Therefore, by our conservative counting method, our competitor's “33-marker test” is actually a “29-marker test.” We mention this to make sure that you understand the difference between these tests and are able to compare “apples to apples.” Different companies will test a couple of different markers than the competition. Family Tree DNA is the oldest and largest DNA testing company. Its sole focus is DNA only. They have things set up in projects (I think Ancestry may have that feature finally) and FTDNA makes it easy for admins to manage the projects. FTDNA has live help in Texas too. The Azores Project, housed at FTDNA, has 178 members with 164 kits returned. Portugal has 183 members, but I don't know how many kits returned. Madeira has 59 members and Cape Verde has 47. If you are in the Azores (or Madeira or Cape Verde) you can also join the Portugal project, if you like. You can have your DNA compared against only those members in the project or against the entire FTDNA database (249,503 members). You can have your DNA uploaded to a public database (YSearch.org or MitoSearch.org) to compare against other companies (Ancestry.com, Oxford Ancestors, etc). A comparison chart of the various companies for Y-DNA can be found here: http://www.isogg.org/ydnachart.htm A comparison chart of the various companies for mitochondrial (mt) DNA can be found here: http://www.isogg.org/mtdnachart.htm Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Adminstrator Azores DNA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: First name Serafina - anyone aware of nicknames?
My grandmother was Luiza, aka Lousia. One of her daughters was a Serafina, aka Sadie, aka Fina. Cheers, Duane On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Jay, > > I didn't think that Serafina and Luiza were interchangable. I thought > Luiza was probably Portuguese for Louise. Don't know what Serafina is > though. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: First name Serafina - anyone aware of nicknames?
Hi Jay, I've come across the same problem on a few ads from the DN of New Bedford regarding my uncle and cousin, which in my case seem to be due to editing errors by the newspaper. Regards, Margaret On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Jason Fraga wrote: > My Great Great Grandmother was Serafina Thomas, born Feb 1867 in Corvo. > Her formal name on all documents that I have shows up as "Serafina", but I > noticed that in the Portuguese-speaking newspaper article (Diario de > Noticias- New Bedford) that listed her obituary, they had her name as > "Luiza". > > I'm 100% sure that I'm not looking at a different person (ie: a step GG > Grandmother, etc) and everyone who might know what the story was is long > gone. Is anyone aware of the interchangeability of those two names? I'm > stumped. > > Best regards, > > Jay Fraga > Massachusetts > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---