[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Results
Hi Cheri, I did receive a e-mail Subject: New DNA Test results posted. It let me know that the test came in and in a couple of weeks the Y-DNA25 and Y-DNA37 may be in. Then a few instructions on what to do.. Yes, I am the e-mail on file. When I talked with you on the phone I gave you my e-mail and you helped me set it up. What I was wondering the 12 markers right now does it mean anything? Should I just wait for all 37 to come in? In the e-mail that I got it did not mention anything about a letter I will get and what to do. I will e-mail you my kit number and I will go check my account to make sure my e-mail address is in there as well.. Also I will be wanting to make another order for a DNA test on my Grandpa's side (Vincent) since I have done my Grandma's side (Pregana). I will be getting in touch with you soon when I am ready to make that order. Mahalo, Kathy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Results
It looks like the I.T. Dept at FTDNA strikes again! Something is a little screwy with the email notification. There's at least 2 people now that I didn't get an email about the results coming in. I see a slight redesign on the pages, so I'll call and see what's up. Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel
Celeste, can you give a ballpark idea of how much of a memorial donation might be appropriate. I am unfamiliar with what would be satisfactory. A range would be more than helpful. Ronnie - Original Message - From: celeste perry To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:34 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel I found that even not knowing anyone in the parish, my offer of a donation in memory of the person I searched led some priests to find the time to allow me to look at the records for the years that were not filmed or sent to the archives. Those would be the church records forward from about 1900. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 4:28 PM John, OK, that's why I've never had success. :( Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Results
Thanks Cheri for letting me know. I will be waiting.. Mahalo Kathy On Aug 26, 12:08 am, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like the I.T. Dept at FTDNA strikes again! Something is a little screwy with the email notification. There's at least 2 people now that I didn't get an email about the results coming in. I see a slight redesign on the pages, so I'll call and see what's up. Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel
Hi Ronnie, The normal donation to have a Mass said in the parish where I attend is $10. So I think that any where in the $10-$20 range would be fine. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ronnie French Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:14 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel Celeste, can you give a ballpark idea of how much of a memorial donation might be appropriate. I am unfamiliar with what would be satisfactory. A range would be more than helpful. Ronnie - Original Message - From: celeste perry mailto:ccgran...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:34 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel I found that even not knowing anyone in the parish, my offer of a donation in memory of the person I searched led some priests to find the time to allow me to look at the records for the years that were not filmed or sent to the archives. Those would be the church records forward from about 1900. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 4:28 PM John, OK, that's why I've never had success. :( Cheri BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fall River Obituary Index
Hi Jesse, I was not aware of this index and it just helped me find the date a great aunt died. Thanks Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:33 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fall River Obituary Index Hi. I'm sure a lot of you probably know about this already but I wanted to share this useful link while I was thinking about it just in case there were some who didn't know: http://www.sailsinc.org/fallriver/research.html#obit The Fall River Library has a partial index to obituaries published in the Fall River Herald. It has helped me find many ancestors. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pereria John, Joao
Loretta, my grandmother had a great devotion to the saints and to Jesus; however, she had very little use for the Catholic church. I am sharing this with you because something like it may have happened to your grandmother. My grandmother`s first son died at 3 months from complications of the measles. She did not have the $5.00 at the time to have him buried in his own grave. He was buried in a plot with a woman she did not know who died at the same time. She told me she could never forgive the priest nor the church because they had not given her son a grave of his own. Of course, both the woman and he were buried in the poor ground and no marker was installed. I found that her assessment of what had happened was true when I indexed the cemetery into a database. Some wounds do not heal easily and that is what happened to my grandmother. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 8/25/09, lor drvh...@cs.com wrote: From: lor drvh...@cs.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pereria John, Joao To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 2:19 PM John Pararra I found in 1880 census San Antonio Marin County CA Marin county found article in 1890 John Perara and D.L. Hayden shipping milk from Novato, CA My grandmother born in California 1878 no mother mention Sister Clara mentioned Cannot find arrival or anything after 1880 census I was told they came from Flores. I know my grandmother would not enter Catholic church for weddings or other occasions. Clara's family is at a stand still. I found a card from Mary Cardoza when my grandfather died calling her auntie. I know no Cardoza's I have researched for 10 years no luck Please help Thank You Loretta Aguiar Valdez --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel
Hi Ronnie, My visit to the church where the priest did not have time for me was in 2001. He said he was off to some appt. I my donation was $20.00 American and he suddenly had time. Of course, the Euro/dollar exchange was not what it is today so you will have to take into consideration what the exchange is now. At that time, the $ was something that was valued in the Azores; as you know, now, it is in the toilet as far as people here are concerned. The Euro is more valued so this trip, I have been dealing only in Euros. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Ronnie French rmfre...@charter.net wrote: From: Ronnie French rmfre...@charter.net Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 12:13 AM Celeste, can you give a ballpark idea of how much of a memorial donation might be appropriate. I am unfamiliar with what would be satisfactory. A range would be more than helpful. Ronnie - Original Message - From: celeste perry To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:34 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel I found that even not knowing anyone in the parish, my offer of a donation in memory of the person I searched led some priests to find the time to allow me to look at the records for the years that were not filmed or sent to the archives. Those would be the church records forward from about 1900. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some success - need some guidance Flores/Sao Miguel To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 4:28 PM John, OK, that's why I've never had success. :( Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fall River Obituary Index
Many thanks, Jesse. I was able to find 2 of my relatives. Would anyone know if indexes for early 1950's and prior will also be listed in the future? thanks. Margaret Vicente On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jesse pacheco.jess...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I'm sure a lot of you probably know about this already but I wanted to share this useful link while I was thinking about it just in case there were some who didn't know: http://www.sailsinc.org/fallriver/research.html#obit The Fall River Library has a partial index to obituaries published in the Fall River Herald. It has helped me find many ancestors. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pereria John, Joao
Thank you for the information. Loretta -Original Message- From: celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:41 am Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pereria John, Joao Loretta, my grandmother had a great devotion to the saints and to Jesus; however, she had very little use for the Catholic church.? I am sharing this with you because something like it may have happened to your grandmother.? ? My grandmother`s first son died at 3 months from complications of the measles.? She did not have the $5.00 at the time to have him buried in his own grave.? He was buried in a plot with a woman she did not know who died at the same time.? She told me she could never forgive the priest nor the church because they had not given her son a grave of his own.? Of course, both the woman and he were buried in the poor ground and no marker was installed.? I found that her assessment of what had happened was true when I indexed the cemetery into a database.? ? Some wounds do not heal easily and that is what happened to my grandmother.? Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 8/25/09, lor drvh...@cs.com wrote: From: lor drvh...@cs.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pereria John, Joao To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 2:19 PM John Pararra I found in 1880 census San Antonio Marin County CA Marin county found article in 1890 John Perara and D.L. Hayden shipping milk from Novato, CA My grandmother born in California 1878 no mother mention???Sister Clara mentioned Cannot find arrival or anything after 1880 census I was told they came from Flores. I know my grandmother would not enter Catholic church for weddings or other occasions. Clara's family is at a stand still. I found a card from Mary Cardoza when my grandfather died calling her auntie. I know no Cardoza's I have researched for 10 years no luck? Please help Thank You Loretta Aguiar Valdez --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brick wall ancestors
Thanks, Cheri for the reminder. My brick wall is my grandmother, Maria do Rosario born 11 Sep 1893 to Jacintho Furtado (born 01 Oct 1865) and Maria dos Anjos (b.?) in Pedreira, Nordeste, Sao Miguel. Jacintho's parents were Manoel Furtado (b. Achada) and Jacinta Cabral (b. Pedreira). Maria dos Anjos was born in Pedreira, father unknown, mother Maria de Farias. I have Jacintho Furtado back to 1700, but no information on Maria dos Anjos. I believe they married about 1891 and had a son John. My grandmother married my grandfather Antonio Franco Pacheco 08 Feb 1912 in Pedreira and came to America in 1917. I have the Pacheco line back to before 1500. I would appreciate any information on Maria dos Anjos or her mother Maria de Farias. Judi From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:13:43 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brick wall ancestors To: Azores@googlegroups.com As Celeste Perry has recently posted about a brick wall ancestor, I thought I'd mention this topic. Post about your brick wall ancestor even if you posted about them 6 months ago. Or a year ago. I think a couple of you have it written on your calendar about posting about yours, because I see them every so often. New things come out now with so much digitizing. I think we mention the CCA site at least monthly because of new members and because people who are stuck at a brick wall may not initially realize that some sources are worth searching. Some queries do fall flat on their initial request. It takes some time to figure out how to write a query to a list (any list, not just this one) and get a response. A query of Looking for Manuel de Mello, someone help me will not get much of a response. Listing your ancestors dates (birth, marriage, death or any timeline dates that you have (e.g. he lived in New Bedford during the 1910s), who he was married to, kids, and places you have found him is much more helpful and is more likely to get people to answer you back. Brick wall ancestors (and for many of us, it's the immigrant ancestor) are hard to research. You'll have to try one suggestion at a time. I mentioned in a previous post that it took me 4 years and 25 documents for me to figure out my brick wall/immigrant ancestor. I think that with all the stuff coming on the Internet now, it would be more like 2 weeks to find him. Pretty amazing how much this hobby has progressed since I started in 1992. For more information on researching brick wall/ immigrant ancestors, look at my how to article posted on the Azores Genweb: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Book on Azores History
Speaking of the James Guill book, I finally secured a copy through local library. Azores Islands. A History. I note that it says on cover Volume 5. I'm confused. Are there other volumes? Mike On Jul 21, 8:17 pm, Benjamin George emperorb...@gmail.com wrote: All, Does anyone have a good book on the history of the Azores that they could recommend? I haven't been able to find anything on Amazon that looks like it would be worth purchasing. Also, has anyone read Saudades da Terra, and if so was it good and is there an English translation? Thanks, Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Book on Azores History
I have vol. 5 which I think was the latest one. I also have a vol. 1 that is much smaller. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Wed, 8/26/09, mikeg mgenie...@gmail.com wrote: From: mikeg mgenie...@gmail.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Book on Azores History To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 8:18 AM Speaking of the James Guill book, I finally secured a copy through local library. Azores Islands. A History. I note that it says on cover Volume 5. I'm confused. Are there other volumes? Mike On Jul 21, 8:17 pm, Benjamin George emperorb...@gmail.com wrote: All, Does anyone have a good book on the history of the Azores that they could recommend? I haven't been able to find anything on Amazon that looks like it would be worth purchasing. Also, has anyone read Saudades da Terra, and if so was it good and is there an English translation? Thanks, Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Discounted Copy of Azores: Nine Islands, One History
Hi everyone: I have an extra copy of Azores: Nine Islands, One History. I had ordered mine from California a few months before my trip to the Azores. Since I had not received it by the time I left, I bought a copy while on the islands. Recently, I received my book from CA, so now I have two. The only way I can make this obviously about transferring the book to someone who will appreciate it, versus being about money, is that I will sell it to the first person who contacts me about the book for $10. This will cover the $5 shipping I paid, plus $5. If anyone is interested, please let me know. Thanks. -Trevor Costa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Another DNA match - 34 out of 37 markers
How exciting! Congratulations to Susan and her family!! From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:59 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another DNA match - 34 out of 37 markers Susan Vargas Murphy's brother got a 34 out of 37 marker match! I just sent the results letter to the other gentleman, so we'll have to wait for him to update his page with his info so we can figure out how they match! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Discounted Nine Islands book
All, I just wanted to let everyone know that I have been contacted about the book, from someone on the list, so I no longer have an extra book. Sorry to anyone who may have been faithfully working away, etc. -Trevor Costa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brick wall ancestors
Brickwall Ancestor: What Happened to Maria DeLuz Caton (Caetano)? Maria DeLuz born @ 1882 on Santa Maria Island, Azores Daughter of Manuel CABRAL and Anna ALVES Immigrated 1903 to Provincetown, MA, USA Married 24 July 1905 in New Bedford, MA to William Willie Caton (Gerurlherme Caetano) 1910 US Census shows family living on Pearl Street, Provincetown, MA Mother of 5: Marion Standish Caton -female- born 1906 Provincetown, MA; James Caton -male- born 1907 Provincetown, MA; Charles Caton (Carlos Caetano) -male- born 1909 Provincetown, MA; Manuel Caton - male- born 1911 Fairhaven, MA; Dorothy Caton -female- born after 1911 in Massachusetts Family legend is sketchy for Maria - thus she is a 'brickwall ancestor' - Maria (Mary) in family notes is elusive in her birth as she is in her death. Her maiden name is unclear - family records show her using DeLuz in various forms, such as DaLuiz, and DeLuiz, and DeLuz . . . And was DeLuz her maiden name? Had she been married before she married Caton/Caetano? What was her maiden name - was she given either her mother or her father's surname at birth or someone else's? Family legend says she died in the 1917-1919 Flu Epidemic but Massachusetts death records checks so far have not found a Maria Caton, Mary Caton, or Maria Caetano of what the 'understood' age range she would have been to have died during that time. A look at Rhode Island and Conn. death records have proved any better - yet. Maria DeLuz Caton just drops off the map. Her children paid a terrible price - particularly the 2 youngest as they were unwanted by any relatives - too young to work, they were sent to orphanages when their mother 'died' ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brick wall ancestors
Brickwall Ancestor: What Happened to Maria DeLuz Caton (Caetano)? Maria DeLuz born @ 1882 on Santa Maria Island, Azores Daughter of Manuel CABRAL and Anna ALVES Immigrated 1903 to Provincetown, MA, USA Married 24 July 1905 in New Bedford, MA to William Willie Caton (Gerurlherme Caetano) 1910 US Census shows family living on Pearl Street, Provincetown, MA Mother of 5: Marion Standish Caton -female- born 1906 Provincetown, MA; James Caton -male- born 1907 Provincetown, MA; Charles Caton (Carlos Caetano) -male- born 1909 Provincetown, MA; Manuel Caton - male- born 1911 Fairhaven, MA; Dorothy Caton -female- born after 1911 in Massachusetts Family legend is sketchy for Maria - thus she is a 'brickwall ancestor' - Maria (Mary) in family notes is elusive in her birth as she is in her death. Her maiden name is unclear - family records show her using DeLuz in various forms, such as DaLuiz, and DeLuiz, and DeLuz . . . And was DeLuz her maiden name? Had she been married before she married Caton/Caetano? What was her maiden name - was she given either her mother or her father's surname at birth or someone else's? Family legend says she died in the 1917-1919 Flu Epidemic but Massachusetts death records checks so far have not found a Maria Caton, Mary Caton, or Maria Caetano of what the 'understood' age range she would have been to have died during that time. A look at Rhode Island and Conn. death records have proved any better - yet. Maria DeLuz Caton just drops off the map. Her children paid a terrible price - particularly the 2 youngest as they were unwanted by any relatives - too young to work, they were sent to orphanages when their mother 'died' ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brick wall ancestors
Brickwall Ancestor: What Happened to Maria DeLuz Caton (Caetano)? Maria DeLuz born @ 1882 on Santa Maria Island, Azores Daughter of Manuel CABRAL and Anna ALVES Immigrated 1903 to Provincetown, MA, USA Married 24 July 1905 in New Bedford, MA to William Willie Caton (Gerurlherme Caetano) 1910 US Census shows family living on Pearl Street, Provincetown, MA Mother of 5: Marion Standish Caton -female- born 1906 Provincetown, MA; James Caton -male- born 1907 Provincetown, MA; Charles Caton (Carlos Caetano) -male- born 1909 Provincetown, MA; Manuel Caton - male- born 1911 Fairhaven, MA; Dorothy Caton -female- born after 1911 in Massachusetts Family legend is sketchy for Maria - thus she is a 'brickwall ancestor' - Maria (Mary) in family notes is elusive in her birth as she is in her death. Her maiden name is unclear - family records show her using DeLuz in various forms, such as DaLuiz, and DeLuiz, and DeLuz . . . And was DeLuz her maiden name? Had she been married before she married Caton/Caetano? What was her maiden name - was she given either her mother or her father's surname at birth or someone else's? Family legend says she died in the 1917-1919 Flu Epidemic but Massachusetts death records checks so far have not found a Maria Caton, Mary Caton, or Maria Caetano of what the 'understood' age range she would have been to have died during that time. A look at Rhode Island and Conn. death records have proved any better - yet. Maria DeLuz Caton just drops off the map. Her children paid a terrible price - particularly the 2 youngest as they were unwanted by any relatives - too young to work, they were sent to orphanages when their mother 'died' ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Book on Azores History
When James Guill was alive, I met him. He had a lot about the Azores. He named his summary book volume 5. He planned on doing more books with more detail (I guess calling them volumes 1 - 4). He never did. So volume 5 is it. He previous published it in the 1970s which was a smaller book that I think Celeste is talking about. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brick wall ancestors, Deolinda Goncalves Pedro (Avila)
My brick wall ancestor is my paternal grandmother Deolinda Goncalves Pedro b. aprox. 08 Nov 1873 Lajes das Flores, Azores. Parents are listed as Antone Goncalves and Isabel Pedro . She had 6 sisters 1. Catherine m ? Serpa lived in Oakland CA. 2. Mary Jesus m (1) Tony Thomas (2) Joe Silveira lived in Merced CA. 3. Anna went to Rio de Janiero and married there, family lost track of her. 4. Mamie m ? Serpa and lived in Fairfield CA 5. Florence never married and 6. Margaret m Joe Serpa and lived in Oakland CA. 1 brother Maurice or Morris who died at sea. (Yes I know I keep writing Serpa, but I got my information from a very old aunt before she died. I'm pretty sure she wasn't remembering correctly.) Deolinda m 08 Dec 1901 Oakland CA to Frank B. Avila. I have copies of the marriage certificate and both death certificates. They are buried in Winton Cemetery, Winton CA with my mother and father Frank P. and Helen Silva Avila. Family story is she came to Oakland CA with 2 sisters and lived and worked there in the mills before she married my grandfather in 1901. She was a very short woman only 4'10 but very strong, only wore black clothes. After my granfather died in 1922 she worked and ran the dairy farm with her 2 sons till the day she died in 1953. She hand milked the cows, planted sweet potatoes and hay. Even raised chickens, ducks and pigs for meat and hams. My sister and I never learned to speak Portugues and she never spoke English, but we understood each other very well. Funny when you are children everything comes so easy... Any help anyone can give me with Deolinda will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, Beverly - Original Message - From: Guida Leicester chandler...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:39:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brick wall ancestors, Maria Rosa Jorge My brick wall ancestor is Manuel Silveira Azevedo, my maternal grandfather. I've posted this before in a few places in hopes someone out there will connect with me to help continue my search on my elusive avô. I have connected with some parentes but am interested in finding present day relatives in USA and in the Azores. Thank you, Cheri, for starting this thread! My Azevedo branch of the family resided on São Jorge, specifically Fajã dos Cubres. If any relatives are left there, I'd love to hear from you. My maternal grandfather, 2 brothers, maybe a sister and a nephew all arrived via California from the Azores in 1880s early 1900s. Surname was (Manuel, Jose e João, Maria, Antone and wife Sybella--Isabella Izilde?) Silveira Azevedo There are Teixeiras, Mendonças, by marriage--Nunes in my family line, all situated in Fajã dos Cubres. Again, I would like to contact present day relatives who stayed behind in São Jorge as not all came to USA. Maybe they all moved to other parts of São Jorge, like Calheta? Or perhaps to other islands, the East Coast or Idaho, Oregon? I hope to make a trip to São Jorge one day soon to meet relatives there. Below is what I know--it is a lot, so skim through. I hope posting here--again!-- will reach a broader world audience. One never knows when new-old relatives may see this. Obrigada! INFO: Parents of my grandfather Manuel or Manoel:Vencelão Silveira de Azevedo (variant: Venceslau Jose de Azevedo)-peasant/journeyma n-carpenter and Maria Vitorina, domestic. Residents of Faja dos Cubres, married in Ribeira Seca 11-17-1848. Grandparents: Paternal: incognito (but there is a listing in Venceslau's death certificate of father’s name as Manoel António Azevedo--who is also listed as godfather to several of Venceslau's children), and mother was Rita Maria (de Mendonça). Maternal: incognito and Francisca Vitorina, meaning both my grandfather Manoel's parents were probably illegitimate. No record of a marriage having ever taken place between the senior Manoel Azevedo and Rita Mendonça. Santiago Maior and Casa Gaspar Silva Ribeira Seca Churches—possible baptismal/ marriage places? Manoel’s brothers and sisters: Mariana, 8-14-1849, Rosa 5-29-1852, Maria 3-27-1854, Antonio, 2-10-1857, Anna, 4-22-1860, Manoel, 2-13-1862 (married Martha Gluch in ID and had 13 children) , José, 2/26/1864 (disabled in some manner and ended up living in Boise ID. Never married), João1/1/1866 (married a Basque woman, Mary Balestegui. They had 2 or 3 children, one son named John Jr, a plumber by trade living in San Pablo CA . May still be alive; if so he’s in his 80s), Rita,2/19/1869 [Baptized on 3/16/1869 Ribeira Seca Baptism #24/1869], died 3/20/1944 in Calheta, Sao Jorge). Antonio (Antone), nephew (son of sister Rosa), came to USA , returned to Azores and married Isabel Izilde, returning to Idaho and marrying there again in 1906. They had a daughter, Mary. Antone died sometime before 1917 and Isabel (Sybella) re- married a Joe Romero in
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Discounted Copy of Azores: Nine Islands, One History
Y0u have probably already been contacted about the book, if not let know . Would like to buy. Joan-ca _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ttcost...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:09 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Discounted Copy of Azores: Nine Islands, One History Hi everyone: I have an extra copy of Azores: Nine Islands, One History. I had ordered mine from California a few months before my trip to the Azores. Since I had not received it by the time I left, I bought a copy while on the islands. Recently, I received my book from CA, so now I have two. The only way I can make this obviously about transferring the book to someone who will appreciate it, versus being about money, is that I will sell it to the first person who contacts me about the book for $10. This will cover the $5 shipping I paid, plus $5. If anyone is interested, please let me know. Thanks. -Trevor Costa _ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] James Guill book on eBay
There is currently a copy of the History of the Azores Islands 5th edition on ebay. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] BRICK WALL...BRIO
Brick Wall Family Member: My great great grandfather was Joseph Francis Brio, more likely, Jose Francisco, last name could be spelled Brejo. I have also seen his last name as Braio. He was born on Flores, Azore Islands 1835. Came to America in 1854, was granted citizenship papers in Boston, Mass on April 24, 1854. He married a woman named Amelia, nothing else known about her. I have heard her maiden name could have been Brio, and Joseph's surname could have been Francis. They ended-up in Yreka, Siskiyou County CA. Both are buried at St. Joseph Catholic Cemetery in Yreka, CA. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also...I was reading the census from Yreka, Siskiyou county, CA. And it states someone was born in Ireland...help appreciated!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brick wall ancestors, Deolinda Goncalves Pedro (Avila)
Beverly, Do you have Isabel and the sisters on the 1900 census ? Do you have their ship list? The Flores marriage book shows no record of Antonio Goncalves and Isabel Pedro. The Familais da Ilha das Flores shows no listing for a Pedro family. The majority of Pedro family is found in Santa Cruz. Goncalves is most common associated with Furtado in Flores. Eric Edgar On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM, bmmarc...@comcast.net wrote: My brick wall ancestor is my paternal grandmother *Deolinda Goncalves Pedro *b. aprox. 08 Nov 1873 Lajes das Flores, Azores. Parents are listed as *Antone Goncalves *and *Isabel Pedro*. She had 6 sisters *1. Catherine *m ? Serpa lived in Oakland CA. *2. Mary Jesus *m (1) Tony Thomas (2) Joe Silveira lived in Merced CA. *3. Anna *went to Rio de Janiero and married there, family lost track of her. *4. Mamie *m ? Serpa and lived in Fairfield CA *5. Florence *never married and *6. Margaret *m Joe Serpa and lived in Oakland CA. 1 brother *Maurice or Morris *who died at sea. (Yes I know I keep writing Serpa, but I got my information from a very old aunt before she died. I'm pretty sure she wasn't remembering correctly.) Deolinda m 08 Dec 1901 Oakland CA to Frank B. Avila. I have copies of the marriage certificate and both death certificates. They are buried in Winton Cemetery, Winton CA with my mother and father Frank P. and Helen Silva Avila. Family story is she came to Oakland CA with 2 sisters and lived and worked there in the mills before she married my grandfather in 1901. She was a very short woman only 4'10 but very strong, only wore black clothes. After my granfather died in 1922 she worked and ran the dairy farm with her 2 sons till the day she died in 1953. She hand milked the cows, planted sweet potatoes and hay. Even raised chickens, ducks and pigs for meat and hams. My sister and I never learned to speak Portugues and she never spoke English, but we understood each other very well. Funny when you are children everything comes so easy... Any help anyone can give me with Deolinda will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, Beverly - Original Message - From: Guida Leicester chandler...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:39:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brick wall ancestors, Maria Rosa Jorge My brick wall ancestor is Manuel Silveira Azevedo, my maternal grandfather. I've posted this before in a few places in hopes someone out there will connect with me to help continue my search on my elusive avô. I have connected with some parentes but am interested in finding present day relatives in USA and in the Azores. Thank you, Cheri, for starting this thread! My Azevedo branch of the family resided on São Jorge, specifically Fajã dos Cubres. If any relatives are left there, I'd love to hear from you. My maternal grandfather, 2 brothers, maybe a sister and a nephew all arrived via California from the Azores in 1880s early 1900s. Surname was (Manuel, Jose e João, Maria, Antone and wife Sybella--Isabella Izilde?) Silveira Azevedo There are Teixeiras, Mendonças, by marriage--Nunes in my family line, all situated in Fajã dos Cubres. Again, I would like to contact present day relatives who stayed behind in São Jorge as not all came to USA. Maybe they all moved to other parts of São Jorge, like Calheta? Or perhaps to other islands, the East Coast or Idaho, Oregon? I hope to make a trip to São Jorge one day soon to meet relatives there. Below is what I know--it is a lot, so skim through. I hope posting here--again!-- will reach a broader world audience. One never knows when new-old relatives may see this. Obrigada! INFO: Parents of my grandfather Manuel or Manoel:Vencelão Silveira de Azevedo (variant: Venceslau Jose de Azevedo)-peasant/journeyman-carpenter and Maria Vitorina, domestic. Residents of Faja dos Cubres, married in Ribeira Seca 11-17-1848. Grandparents: Paternal: incognito (but there is a listing in Venceslau's death certificate of father’s name as Manoel António Azevedo--who is also listed as godfather to several of Venceslau's children), and mother was Rita Maria (de Mendonça). Maternal: incognito and Francisca Vitorina, meaning both my grandfather Manoel's parents were probably illegitimate. No record of a marriage having ever taken place between the senior Manoel Azevedo and Rita Mendonça. Santiago Maior and Casa Gaspar Silva Ribeira Seca Churches—possible baptismal/ marriage places? Manoel’s brothers and sisters: Mariana, 8-14-1849, Rosa 5-29-1852, Maria 3-27-1854, Antonio, 2-10-1857, Anna, 4-22-1860, Manoel, 2-13-1862 (married Martha Gluch in ID and had 13 children) , José, 2/26/1864 (disabled in some manner and ended up living in Boise ID. Never married), João1/1/1866 (married a Basque woman, Mary Balestegui. They had 2 or 3 children, one son named John Jr, a plumber by
