[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The_island_of_São_Jorge.News

[Kawika322]

Hi Yolanda,

I have a lot of ancestors from Sao Jorge and came across this posting
and was curious about the Will Book and link that you sent to nancy
jean baptiste. What kind of information is listed? Would you be able
to send me the link as well to my email?

Thanks,

David

On Nov 20, 2:46 am, yolanda  wrote:
> Hello there
>
> You are welcome!
>
> For Topo i don't even know that they have any historical records in their
> power. That is a good question!
>
> Were they at any point City Hall? If yes then they shoul have municipal
> records of payments, land owners, fines, jail records, etc etc.
>
> Next time i go there i will ask around.
>
> Since that the Portuguese law for official records was to send everything to
> central power, that's way the records of baptism of Saint George were send
> to Angra do Heroismo. The records of Pico send to Faial.
>
> And even nowadys there is Tons of azores records that just seat in Torre do
> Tombo and rot away..
>
> I do believe tthat these records should retorne to Azores.
>
> nowadays the aim  is for the decentralization's, and believe that records
> shoud stay with their institutes.
>
> I have to say, that in my professional opinion as an archiviste, that this
> web site and the records managmente is not the best. They sould have
> invested in a profissional archiviste at full time. Just puting stuff on
> line like they did With no research of the services.but it´s just
> me...and my humble opinion.
>
> I have to say that i was amazed with the number of people that gave away
> their children to the city hall powers, and they kept a tidy records of
> everyone, name, origin, married or not, etc etc i have found a lot a woman
> that were married but did not have the hability to take care of their child.
>
> MY best regards
>
> 2009/11/19 nancy jean baptiste 
>
> >  Hi Yolanda,
>
> > Thank you for sending that link...I looked through a few of the early
> > records for 1558the writing was so different from the other Sao Jorge
> > records I've been researchingregardless, this will be a treasure trove
> > of information to peruse in quiet moments Do you know if this is being
> > put on line for Topo?
>
> > Thanks again,
> > Nancy Jean
> > --
> > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:04:55 +
> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The_island_of_São_Jorge.News
> > From: yolandabettenco...@gmail.com
> > To: azores@googlegroups.com
>
> > One of the lots stuff...
>
> > the site does not permit me to send these links..it just lets me do the
> > download or consult on line.
>
> > I just send an copy of one Will Book records, but can not send to azores
> > google groups, because its too heavy.
>
> > In the last camp of research if you put the word
>
> > Testamentos
>
> > You will be given a list of all the books from the Municipal records you
> > can research.
>
> > Wills are just a part.
>
> > If you have any doubts just write me.
>
> > My best
>
> > 2009/11/19 
>
> >  Ola Yolanda,
>
> > The link you gave has no actual links to the project.
> > Do you have a link to a particular example of what we can find there
> > related to genealogy?
>
> > Obrigado,
>
> > Doug da Rocha Holmes
> > Buckeye, Arizona
> > Pico Genealogist
> > 623-398-0452
>
> >   Original Message 
> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]_The_island_of_São_Jorge.News
> > From: yolanda 
> > Date: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:53 am
> > To: azores@googlegroups.com
>
> > Hello Group
>
> > Olá!
>
> > The island de São Jorge is  just starting a project of Genealogy research
> > by Misericórdia de Velas.
>
> > Also the Municipal Archive of Velas has been digitalized and can be found
> > at
>
> >http://www.inforgeide.pt/cmvelas/
>
> > Remember it´s the records of the City Hall Of Velas.
>
> >  But we can find a lot of interesting facts and and lots of lists with
> > names.
>
> > If help is needed for tranlation, i am able to help.
>
> > --
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> > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ebay--Pics of Azoreans

[Jesse Pacheco]

Ah okay, sorry. I thought you meant you were the seller.

Rosemarie Capodicci wrote:
> Jesse
>
> They don't have anything to do with me, I just wanted others on the Azores 
> list to know about them. You need to write to the person who is selling the 
> pics and ask those questions.
>
> Rosemarie
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jesse Pacheco" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ebay--Pics of Azoreans
>
>
> Hi, I found the photos on ebay. They are probably no relation of mine
> though they look similar to some, haha. I have ancestors who also had
> photographs taken at A M Estrella studio. Could you please give more
> information such as where you found these and if there is anything
> written on the backs. Also, please try to make copies or scans of them.
> Old family photographs are so rare and once they are gone, they are gone
> forever. I think you can have scans and copies made at places like CVS
> if you don't own a scanner.
>
> rcap...@redshift.com wrote:
>   
>> I just sent an email from Ebay with 4 beautiful family pics that they are
>> selling. If it doesn't come thru please go to ebay.com and type in Azores
>> and they will come up in the search. Hopefully some one will be able to
>> identify the pics which are supposedly of Azorean families from Sao
>> Miguel.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>>
>> 
>
>   

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ebay--Pics of Azoreans

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Jesse

They don't have anything to do with me, I just wanted others on the Azores 
list to know about them. You need to write to the person who is selling the 
pics and ask those questions.

Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: "Jesse Pacheco" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ebay--Pics of Azoreans


Hi, I found the photos on ebay. They are probably no relation of mine
though they look similar to some, haha. I have ancestors who also had
photographs taken at A M Estrella studio. Could you please give more
information such as where you found these and if there is anything
written on the backs. Also, please try to make copies or scans of them.
Old family photographs are so rare and once they are gone, they are gone
forever. I think you can have scans and copies made at places like CVS
if you don't own a scanner.

rcap...@redshift.com wrote:
> I just sent an email from Ebay with 4 beautiful family pics that they are
> selling. If it doesn't come thru please go to ebay.com and type in Azores
> and they will come up in the search. Hopefully some one will be able to
> identify the pics which are supposedly of Azorean families from Sao
> Miguel.
>
> Rosemarie
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] French in Azores ca 1900

[yolanda]

Ahoy There!



Go Again in the page.


http://censos.ine.pt/xportal/xmain?xpid=INE&xpgid=censos_historia_pt


maybe... you should try To Click in one of the Census.



let´s say 1864 and then it will appear


http://censos.ine.pt/xportal/xmain?xpid=INE&xpgid=censos_historia_pt_1864



In this page...on the Left sideYou will see Several Documents


 ( that look like pictures but are not, because the Portuguese government
has no sense of beauty or fun, trust me. I would Know!)



Click again in one of the pictures



You will see on the left the words



 Publicação

(picture of a book cover)



Questionario

(pictures of questions)



Legislação

(Law stuff)



Then click again on the picture of Book cover that is actually a PDF. All
are PDF


and download and save for your PC




OK?




Try it and feed back.


MY best














2009/11/20 Genealogy 

> I have been to the website and I can not find the actual census. I found
> alot of statistical information and how the census was taken. Where is
> the actual census data?
>
> Joaquin Mendonça
>

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ebay--Pics of Azoreans

[rfrancispimentel]

Interesting photos but I do not recognize any one.

 

I have a couple of photos done by A. M. Estrella also. I have wondered
what ever happened to all the old glass plate negatives. I would guess
they were washed for their silver content during the war. 

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 

 

-Original Message-
From: marra...@cs.com [mailto:marra...@cs.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:06 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ebay--Pics of Azoreans

 

In a message dated 11/20/2009 3:42:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pacheco.jess...@gmail.com writes: 



Hi, I found the photos on ebay. They are probably no relation of mine 
though they look similar to some, haha. I have ancestors who also had 
photographs taken at A M Estrella studio. Could you please give more 
information such as where you found these and if there is anything 
written on the backs. Also, please try to make copies or scans of them. 
Old family photographs are so rare and once they are gone, they are gone

forever. I think you can have scans and copies made at places like CVS 
if you don't own a scanner.


A.M. Estrella was the photographer of the Portuguese immigrants in the
Fall River area circa 1900-1930. He had a studio on Bay Street and was
orininally from Vila Franca (I think). He took a wedding photo of my
grandparents in 1910.

John Miranda Raposo

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] French in Azores ca 1900

[Genealogy]

I have been to the website and I can not find the actual census. I found 
alot of statistical information and how the census was taken. Where is 
the actual census data?

Joaquin Mendonça

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ebay--Pics of Azoreans

[Marralha]

In a message dated 11/20/2009 3:42:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
pacheco.jess...@gmail.com writes: 
> Hi, I found the photos on ebay. They are probably no relation of mine 
> though they look similar to some, haha. I have ancestors who also had 
> photographs taken at A M Estrella studio. Could you please give more 
> information such as where you found these and if there is anything 
> written on the backs. Also, please try to make copies or scans of them. 
> Old family photographs are so rare and once they are gone, they are gone 
> forever. I think you can have scans and copies made at places like CVS 
> if you don't own a scanner.
> 
A.M. Estrella was the photographer of the Portuguese immigrants in the Fall 
River area circa 1900-1930. He had a studio on Bay Street and was 
orininally from Vila Franca (I think). He took a wedding photo of my 
grandparents in 
1910.

John Miranda Raposo

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ebay--Pics of Azoreans

[Jesse Pacheco]

Hi, I found the photos on ebay. They are probably no relation of mine 
though they look similar to some, haha. I have ancestors who also had 
photographs taken at A M Estrella studio. Could you please give more 
information such as where you found these and if there is anything 
written on the backs. Also, please try to make copies or scans of them. 
Old family photographs are so rare and once they are gone, they are gone 
forever. I think you can have scans and copies made at places like CVS 
if you don't own a scanner.

rcap...@redshift.com wrote:
> I just sent an email from Ebay with 4 beautiful family pics that they are
> selling. If it doesn't come thru please go to ebay.com and type in Azores
> and they will come up in the search. Hopefully some one will be able to
> identify the pics which are supposedly of Azorean families from Sao
> Miguel.
>
> Rosemarie
>
>   

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ebay--Pics of Azoreans

[rcapodc]

I just sent an email from Ebay with 4 beautiful family pics that they are
selling. If it doesn't come thru please go to ebay.com and type in Azores
and they will come up in the search. Hopefully some one will be able to
identify the pics which are supposedly of Azorean families from Sao
Miguel.

Rosemarie

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Jews in the Azores

[steinhardt]

I see many inquires in this forum about Jews in the Azores.
I will be pleased to exchange information about this.
Please contact me.
My email address is ina...@steinhardts.com

Thank you

Inácio

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] French in Azores ca 1900

["E" Sharp]

Yolanda and others,

Thank you all for this information about the French in the Azores.

Yolanda, I am going through the information you sent; very interesting.
Thank you so much.

This proves the story I have been told is probably true.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The_island_of_São_Jorge. News

[yolanda]

Hello there

You are welcome!


For Topo i don't even know that they have any historical records in their
power. That is a good question!

Were they at any point City Hall? If yes then they shoul have municipal
records of payments, land owners, fines, jail records, etc etc.

Next time i go there i will ask around.

Since that the Portuguese law for official records was to send everything to
central power, that's way the records of baptism of Saint George were send
to Angra do Heroismo. The records of Pico send to Faial.


And even nowadys there is Tons of azores records that just seat in Torre do
Tombo and rot away..

I do believe tthat these records should retorne to Azores.

nowadays the aim  is for the decentralization's, and believe that records
shoud stay with their institutes.


I have to say, that in my professional opinion as an archiviste, that this
web site and the records managmente is not the best. They sould have
invested in a profissional archiviste at full time. Just puting stuff on
line like they did With no research of the services.but it´s just
me...and my humble opinion.

I have to say that i was amazed with the number of people that gave away
their children to the city hall powers, and they kept a tidy records of
everyone, name, origin, married or not, etc etc i have found a lot a woman
that were married but did not have the hability to take care of their child.


MY best regards











2009/11/19 nancy jean baptiste 

>  Hi Yolanda,
>
> Thank you for sending that link...I looked through a few of the early
> records for 1558the writing was so different from the other Sao Jorge
> records I've been researchingregardless, this will be a treasure trove
> of information to peruse in quiet moments Do you know if this is being
> put on line for Topo?
>
> Thanks again,
> Nancy Jean
> --
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:04:55 +
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The_island_of_São_Jorge.News
> From: yolandabettenco...@gmail.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>
>
> One of the lots stuff...
>
>
>
> the site does not permit me to send these links..it just lets me do the
> download or consult on line.
>
> I just send an copy of one Will Book records, but can not send to azores
> google groups, because its too heavy.
>
>
> In the last camp of research if you put the word
>
> Testamentos
>
>
> You will be given a list of all the books from the Municipal records you
> can research.
>
> Wills are just a part.
>
>
>
> If you have any doubts just write me.
>
>
> My best
>
>
>
> 2009/11/19 
>
>  Ola Yolanda,
>
> The link you gave has no actual links to the project.
> Do you have a link to a particular example of what we can find there
> related to genealogy?
>
> Obrigado,
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Buckeye, Arizona
> Pico Genealogist
> 623-398-0452
>
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]_The_island_of_São_Jorge.News
> From: yolanda 
> Date: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:53 am
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>
> Hello Group
>
> Olá!
>
> The island de São Jorge is  just starting a project of Genealogy research
> by Misericórdia de Velas.
>
> Also the Municipal Archive of Velas has been digitalized and can be found
> at
>
> http://www.inforgeide.pt/cmvelas/
>
>
> Remember it´s the records of the City Hall Of Velas.
>
>  But we can find a lot of interesting facts and and lots of lists with
> names.
>
> If help is needed for tranlation, i am able to help.
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] French in Azores ca 1900

[yolanda]

Same of  historical Portuguese census are available on line in this web site
since the making of the first european census.


The web site is of the National Institute de Estatistica (statistics) that
belongs to the Portuguese Government.


These census are also published.

The information about each and everyone is also available in the web site.




http://censos.ine.pt/xportal/xmain?xpid=INE&xpgid=censos_historia_pt



2009/11/19 Jesse Pacheco 

> I wasn't aware there were census records available. Could you please
> give more information about this Portuguese census?
>
> yolanda wrote:
> > Well, I don't Know if you can read Portuguese, but i am sending you
> > the 1900 Census made in Portugal. ( its too heavy to send to google
> > groups)
> >
> > There you can see that there were all the foreigners that existed in
> > each island of Açores. Or you can download it for yourself.
> >
> > There you  can see even how many french reside on each island.
> >
> > Yes. They existed, and lived on Azores.
> >
> >  And there where usually a lot of english and french on the islands
> >
> > The reasons why are as usual as the present days. Businesse affairs,
> > trading, commerce,  conection by marriage.
> >
> > But that replay would need a very long and serious research involving
> > a lot of records search.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > De nada.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://censos.ine.pt/xportal/xmain?xpid=INE&xpgid=censos_historia_pt_1900
> > <
> http://censos.ine.pt/xportal/xmain?xpid=INE&xpgid=censos_historia_pt_1900>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/11/19 mailto:bellema...@gmail.com>>
> >
> > Yolanda and all,
> >
> > Were there any French men and why would they be in the Azores
> > about 1895-1905?
> >
> > "E"
> >
> >
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