[AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Brigantin Ranalho d'Oliveira of Ferrterias Sao Miguel
Is my GGGrandfather - Does anybody already have him in Their Tree b. between 1850-1880? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Res: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Men using maternal surnames....help with translation
Before 1800s, the regular Portuguese surname form (maternal+paternal) was not the standard form. We can find any combination: maternal+paternal, paternal+maternal, only paternal, only maternal, grandparents's surnames. There's usually surnames in honor to grandparents or uncles/aunts. It's very common to repeat the name of grandmothers, for example. For example, I have an ancestor Apolonia Dias Pereira in Sao Roque/Pico, and she had many granddaughters Apolonia Dias Pereira, who had homonym granddaughters, making this name cross many generations intact. After 1800s there's very few examples of children receiving godparents' surnames. Joao S Lopes De: Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.br Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Domingo, 2 de Maio de 2010 21:06:52 Assunto: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Men using maternal surnameshelp with translation Antonio de Quadros born in Flamengos, Faial, son of Domingos de Abreu and Luzia Gularte, married to Joana da Ressurreicao daughter of Joao Pereira de Quadros and Mariana Machado. Joana had a daughter Isabel de Sao Joao, who had son Jose born in Urzelina on 26-mar-1749 (unknown father) and later got married on 25-may-1754 (Velas) to Inacio Teixeira Machado, Antonio de Quadros's brother. JS Lopes De: Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Domingo, 2 de Maio de 2010 17:09:14 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Men using maternal surnameshelp with translation Hi Nancy, I read: Antonio de Quadros son of Domingos Habreo LuZia Gularte naturals of Ribeira dos Flamengos, Nossa Senhora da Luz, Fayal. Joana da Ressurreição daughter of João de Quadros Pereira The P.ra is short form and could be something either than Pereira, perhaps someone else in the group will be able to confirm, Maria Machado of Beira, Santa Anna, S. Jorge. It does not make reference of consanguinity (blood relation). Best, Margaret Vicente. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:32 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I've spent a quiet , rainy weekend researching my mothers maternal and paternal lines simultaneously since the records are intermingled time wise in Velas. I've had some measure of success with some new discoveries. My Antonio Jose de Sousa Pereira married Isabel de Jesus da Silveira...her father was my randfather, Manuel de Avila Teixeira who was the son of Jose Antonio da Silveira and Maria de Jesus, daughter of the other Manuel de Avila Teixeira and Beatriz Maria. So he was named after his maternal grandfather of the same name. Also, Jose was the son of Manuel Machado Fagundes and Joanna Baptista.(this makes me wonder if my parents are some kind of cousins way back there)not sure where his da Silveira came from. It would be impossible to trace these men by surnames! However, I need some help with a name on a record from my mothers maternal side..I've just discovered that my de Lemos line has roots in Norte Grande (Poderosa) and also back to Fayal! These people also used maternal surnames! One of them is Quadros. My ggrandmother, Francisca Rosa de Lemos was descended several generations back from Joao Jose da Silveira and Anna Bernarda Poderosa, Joao Jose was the son of Antonio (Alves?) de Quadros and Joanna Maria de Resurrecion..I need help reading Antonio and Joannas marriage record... Velas marriages...1734 to 1772...page #116, record #676 Antonio is the son of Domingos de (HABREO?) and Luiza? Gularte from Rebeira, Flamengos, Fayal !!! (my first Fayal ancestor to date) Joanna is the daughter of Joam de Quadros (abbreviated name?) and Maria Machado of Velas (Beira) Does anyone connect or know these people and could you please help me with the names that I can't read on this record? Thank you, Nancy Jean Baptista The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send
RE: Res: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Men using maternal surnames....help with translation
Thanks Joao for all of the information.I'm always amazed when you bring forth these tidbits of information like that about Joana's daughter Isabel having a baby out of wedlock then marrying her father's (Antonio was her father?) brother 5 years later. How do you even remember that you have this information? Did the son, Jose, take his new fathers name or use that of his mother? I'd like to research the Abreu family in Flamengos since I had no idea I had Fayal ancestors and now this Quadros line on Sao Jorge! I appreciate your help these last few years since your information about my Baptista family brought forth many, many discoveries with the help of Arline and others! Best regards, Nancy Jean Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 06:37:54 -0700 From: josim...@yahoo.com.br Subject: Res: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Men using maternal surnameshelp with translation To: azores@googlegroups.com Before 1800s, the regular Portuguese surname form (maternal+paternal) was not the standard form. We can find any combination: maternal+paternal, paternal+maternal, only paternal, only maternal, grandparents's surnames. There's usually surnames in honor to grandparents or uncles/aunts. It's very common to repeat the name of grandmothers, for example. For example, I have an ancestor Apolonia Dias Pereira in Sao Roque/Pico, and she had many granddaughters Apolonia Dias Pereira, who had homonym granddaughters, making this name cross many generations intact. After 1800s there's very few examples of children receiving godparents' surnames. Joao S Lopes De: Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.br Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Domingo, 2 de Maio de 2010 21:06:52 Assunto: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Men using maternal surnameshelp with translation Antonio de Quadros born in Flamengos, Faial, son of Domingos de Abreu and Luzia Gularte, married to Joana da Ressurreicao daughter of Joao Pereira de Quadros and Mariana Machado. Joana had a daughter Isabel de Sao Joao, who had son Jose born in Urzelina on 26-mar-1749 (unknown father) and later got married on 25-may-1754 (Velas) to Inacio Teixeira Machado, Antonio de Quadros's brother. JS Lopes De: Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Domingo, 2 de Maio de 2010 17:09:14 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Men using maternal surnameshelp with translation Hi Nancy, I read: Antonio de Quadros son of Domingos Habreo LuZia Gularte naturals of Ribeira dos Flamengos, Nossa Senhora da Luz, Fayal. Joana da Ressurreição daughter of João de Quadros Pereira The P.ra is short form and could be something either than Pereira, perhaps someone else in the group will be able to confirm, Maria Machado of Beira, Santa Anna, S. Jorge. It does not make reference of consanguinity (blood relation). Best, Margaret Vicente. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:32 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I've spent a quiet , rainy weekend researching my mothers maternal and paternal lines simultaneously since the records are intermingled time wise in Velas. I've had some measure of success with some new discoveries. My Antonio Jose de Sousa Pereira married Isabel de Jesus da Silveira...her father was my randfather, Manuel de Avila Teixeira who was the son of Jose Antonio da Silveira and Maria de Jesus, daughter of the other Manuel de Avila Teixeira and Beatriz Maria. So he was named after his maternal grandfather of the same name. Also, Jose was the son of Manuel Machado Fagundes and Joanna Baptista.(this makes me wonder if my parents are some kind of cousins way back there)not sure where his da Silveira came from. It would be impossible to trace these men by surnames! However, I need some help with a name on a record from my mothers maternal side..I've just discovered that my de Lemos line has roots in Norte Grande (Poderosa) and also back to Fayal! These people also used maternal surnames! One of them is Quadros. My ggrandmother, Francisca Rosa de Lemos was descended several generations back from Joao Jose da Silveira and Anna Bernarda Poderosa, Joao Jose was the son of Antonio (Alves?) de Quadros and Joanna Maria de Resurrecion..I need help reading Antonio and Joannas marriage record... Velas marriages...1734 to 1772...page #116, record #676 Antonio is the son of Domingos de (HABREO?) and Luiza? Gularte from Rebeira, Flamengos, Fayal !!! (my first Fayal ancestor to date) Joanna is the daughter of Joam de Quadros (abbreviated name?) and Maria Machado of Velas (Beira) Does anyone connect or know these people and could you please help me with the names that I can't read on this record? Thank you, Nancy Jean Baptista The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Brigantin Ranalho d'Oliveira of Ferrterias Sao Miguel
he was 20 May 1858, Feteiras, São Miguel, Açores died 1937 Nahiku, Maui, Hawaii On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Thomas da/de Costa Vasconcelos Rodrigues Gouveia Oliveira Cabral thomas.deco...@usmc.mil wrote: Is my GGGrandfather - Does anybody already have him in Their Tree b. between 1850-1880? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Brigantin Ranalho d'Oliveira of Ferrterias Sao M...
In a message dated 5/3/2010 12:59:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, thomas.deco...@usmc.mil writes: Is my GGGrandfather - Does anybody already have him in Their Tree b. between 1850-1880? Dear Thom: I am sure you must know that he is the great grandfather of Iris Cabral. That line goes way back to João de Oliveira and Ana Gonsalves of Feteiras, probably married around 1625. Best regards, John -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Casa da Maria de Deus Bed and breakfast
Hi everyone! My good friend Mary D has abed and breakfast in Povoação please check out her brandnew site wih pictures. page http://www.casamariadedeus.com/gallery.html -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Casa da Maria de Deus Bed and breakfast
Wow! George, this was a church that was associated with the Mae de Deus orphanage my aunt spent quite a few years in just down the hill and I am sure she went to this church many times. I am surprised it is a bed and breakfast. I have been there last May. What a beautiful view there is from the grounds! We walked to/from the Hotel Avenida to the church - once we learned we did not have to hike up the big hill to get to it. I wish your friend all the best and if I go back to Sao Miguel again, I will be sure to stay there. Just beautiful! E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Casa da Maria de Deus Bed and breakfast
There's someone in my family tree waay back there that's afiliated with the building of the church. The name slips my mind at the moment (and I don't have my genealogy program open). Anyways, Shirley Allegre and I walked on the opposite side (away from the B B) when we went to Ponta Delgada together. Loved the shot of the band :) Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Casa da Maria de Deus Bed and breakfast
George, I'm glad to hear the church is still intact. But her B B is still in a great location and I still would certainly consider staying there if/when I return to Sao Miguel. It's a lot more personal than staying in a hotel. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Casa da Maria de Deus Bed and breakfast
and much more reasonable On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:43 PM, bellema...@gmail.com wrote: George, I'm glad to hear the church is still intact. But her B B is still in a great location and I still would certainly consider staying there if/when I return to Sao Miguel. It's a lot more personal than staying in a hotel. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] geneall.net/p/
Hi to All, Just curious, does anyone belong to geneall.net/p/? It is an interesting site, very well managed. Much of the site can be browsed free, but they say there is more information available to those who belong. I am always leery of such sites, thought I would ask those who might know. Thanks, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Casa da Maria de Deus Bed and breakfast
I'll be there in August. Staying with Maria for five nights and then moving into Ponta Delgada at the Hotel Talisman for four nights. Hope to get to the archives. I think there is a festa in Agua e Pau while we're there. Joanne Souza - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 3, 2010 9:12:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Casa da Maria de Deus Bed and breakfast There's someone in my family tree waay back there that's afiliated with the building of the church. The name slips my mind at the moment (and I don't have my genealogy program open). Anyways, Shirley Allegre and I walked on the opposite side (away from the B B) when we went to Ponta Delgada together. Loved the shot of the band :) Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
